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Topic: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant - page 5. (Read 3388 times)

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November 05, 2021, 08:36:37 PM
^^ Indeed it was very intense, the adrenaline rush for this fighter are insane, they really wanted to get each other's heads-off.

But as the saying goes, once the bell ring, it will only be this 2 fighters, no fans, no trainers to help them out. Maybe Caleb can be good in the first couple of rounds and the fight be as competitive. But Canelo is a cerebral fighter and he will use his boxing IQ. And it will be really hard for Caleb, I don't think he has the power to knock down Alvarez if he touches him. Canelo's chin is one of the best in the middleweight, never been broken by anyone, not even GGG.
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November 05, 2021, 08:28:06 PM
The weigh-in and the face-off are very intense, they are not allowed a close face-off and both fighters are ignoring the request of one of the promoters to turn around and face the crowd they just continue to thrash talk each other, even the crowd are also intense shouting USA and Mexico this will be very exciting.


CANELO ALVAREZ VS CALEB PLANT - FULL WEIGH IN & FACE OFF (INTENSE!!)

Yep, both parties are alive in this face-off, Caleb has his own fan base and so is Canelo. But it's obvious, that Canelo has a lot of fans in that stadium.

Caleb looks intense but at the same time very confident as well that he will make history tomorrow night. But I've heard there are still tickets but very selective tickets are only available, (maybe the price is very high and only VIP can afford it). I haven't put my bet yet to be honest, I'm thinking that maybe, just maybe Caleb will have that small chance to create an upset.
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November 05, 2021, 06:55:56 PM
The weigh-in and the face-off are very intense, they are not allowed a close face-off and both fighters are ignoring the request of one of the promoters to turn around and face the crowd they just continue to thrash talk each other, even the crowd are also intense shouting USA and Mexico this will be very exciting.


CANELO ALVAREZ VS CALEB PLANT - FULL WEIGH IN & FACE OFF (INTENSE!!)
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November 05, 2021, 06:42:02 PM
When posed with that question, the camp of Caleb might have a hard time thinking of a specific boxing ability or quality of their fighter which makes him better than Canelo. They would neither reveal their strategy in taking up against Canelo. That's probably why they just give a somewhat vague answer in saying they are fully prepared and ready. I agree though. They cannot be less than 100% ready in facing Canelo. Canelo has everything to defeat Caleb.

Hard time thinking what will be the answer? I think that's not it. The question is non-sense. Why should a camp reveal in public the advantage of their boxer? Let the talking do on the boxing ring. That question is not appropriate that's why it looks like Caleb Plant's camp didn't react right away to the question.

If Canelo's camp will be questioned like that, I think they will have the same response.
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November 05, 2021, 06:29:51 PM


This fight might not finish to a decision, I reckon. Canelo Alvarez round range to win on rounds 7-9 is 4.20 and win during rounds 10-12 is 4.80 in sportsbet.io appears to be very good odds. Canelo for a knockout win is only 1.56. This is telling us that the chance is bigger for a knockout than a decision.

I don't think it will end in a decision unless Plant chooses to run and refuse to engage, Saunders did a good job avoiding Canelo's big punch in the early rounds but eventually got caught in the latter rounds, Canelo is so good at sizing up his opponents and working on the distance, Plant should do better in the counterpunch, and being the taller man he should use his reach and height advantage because he will have big issues when Canelo start connecting.
Because of the bloodbath between the two, it'll definitely end in a knockout of course I'll go for Canelo, he's a complete fighter.
 
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November 05, 2021, 06:18:28 PM
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That was Mayweather being himself, we know that Mayweather always tried to find some way to get an advantage over his opponents, so he realized that if he did not fought Canelo at that time and waited until Canelo was on his prime then he will be too old and he could lose the fight, but by fighting Canelo when he was still yet to reach his prime he got the win, kept his undefeated record intact and he could brag about it forever even if we know the truth of what happened.
I know there are many who wanted to see Floyd Mayweather loose, but he was too good a boxer that no one was able to defeat him. When Canelo Álvarez faced Floyd Mayweather, Canelo already fought 43 times professionally and you think that was not an experience even after fighting 43 times before facing Mayweather and Mayweather was 36 years of age, in fight terms well passed his prime and still was able to defeat a young up and coming talent which says a lot of the skills set.

That said Canelo Álvarez is the best boxer right now and there is no one who could pose a challenge other than Gennady Golovkin and these two fighters are well above everyone else in terms of skill level.
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November 05, 2021, 05:57:26 PM
Let see if these two fighters will bring us the entertainment that we deserve to have Wink
AFAIK, all the fights of Alvarez are entertaining, including his fight against Mayweather where he was totally schooled.

Schooled? That's not an appropriate thought because Canelo is just in his early years of boxing when he fought Mayweather. Lack of experience and don't have yet some of the special moves. If they will fight on prime, Canelo has the chance to beat Mayweather.

On the topic, it seems that some boxing analysts consider Caleb Plant can take a chance to win the fight. Maybe they are referring to both boxer's current training regimes.
That was Mayweather being himself, we know that Mayweather always tried to find some way to get an advantage over his opponents, so he realized that if he did not fought Canelo at that time and waited until Canelo was on his prime then he will be too old and he could lose the fight, but by fighting Canelo when he was still yet to reach his prime he got the win, kept his undefeated record intact and he could brag about it forever even if we know the truth of what happened.
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November 05, 2021, 01:01:30 AM
You want to bet now, you can check the full market at sportsbet.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/plant-caleb-vs-alvarez-saul-canelo-6146b358ad191bf22779e740

Winner & round range is more exciting to bet as no one would put a bet on Canelo for 1.09 odds only.
Good luck for tomorrow, this should be a fun sunday.
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November 04, 2021, 11:17:22 PM
That dream fight already happened, in fact, they had already faced each other twice and in the 2nd fight, it was Canelo who won the fight. We know a trilogy would be an exciting one, but we should respect if Canelo does not want it anymore, besides, he is still dominating in his division and has nothing to prove anymore.

A trilogy with GGG may not be too exciting anymore for me as GGG has declined a lot due to age obviously while Canelo is in his prime at the moment. We might see another Pacman vs Ugas where the older fighter could hardly move  Grin.

This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.



This fight might not finish to a decision, I reckon. Canelo Alvarez round range to win on rounds 7-9 is 4.20 and win during rounds 10-12 is 4.80 in sportsbet.io appears to be very good odds. Canelo for a knockout win is only 1.56. This is telling us that the chance is bigger for a knockout than a decision.
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November 04, 2021, 11:03:14 PM

When posed with that question, the camp of Caleb might have a hard time thinking of a specific boxing ability or quality of their fighter which makes him better than Canelo. They would neither reveal their strategy in taking up against Canelo. That's probably why they just give a somewhat vague answer in saying they are fully prepared and ready. I agree though. They cannot be less than 100% ready in facing Canelo. Canelo has everything to defeat Caleb.

This is very important for both fighters and Caleb opted not to give any hint on what he is going to do, it's better that way that you left your opponent guessing what you are going to do, he might have a change of strategy or style and he wants to keep it until the start of the round, whatever change of strategy I still have Canelo winning but I never rule out an upset or a surprise coming from Plant.
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November 04, 2021, 09:58:42 PM
Here is the final presser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri-vTx68dYU

No fanfare, just simply presser with both fighters answering questions from boxing reporters.

Like the question on Caleb Plant's side, "What advantages does Plant have against Canelo?"

They answered not a strategy nor Caleb traits but instead, they said they are fully prepared and ready. In the first place, there are no specific advantages to telling the whole as it's better to let the talking and actions do on the actual date of the fight.

I like the positivity although still can't see how Caleb will deal or snatch an upset win against Canelo.

When posed with that question, the camp of Caleb might have a hard time thinking of a specific boxing ability or quality of their fighter which makes him better than Canelo. They would neither reveal their strategy in taking up against Canelo. That's probably why they just give a somewhat vague answer in saying they are fully prepared and ready. I agree though. They cannot be less than 100% ready in facing Canelo. Canelo has everything to defeat Caleb.
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November 04, 2021, 07:24:25 PM
Here is the final presser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri-vTx68dYU

No fanfare, just simply presser with both fighters answering questions from boxing reporters.

Like the question on Caleb Plant's side, "What advantages does Plant have against Canelo?"

They answered not a strategy nor Caleb traits but instead, they said they are fully prepared and ready. In the first place, there are no specific advantages to telling the whole as it's better to let the talking and actions do on the actual date of the fight.

I like the positivity although still can't see how Caleb will deal or snatch an upset win against Canelo.
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November 04, 2021, 06:43:26 PM
A trilogy with GGG may not be too exciting anymore for me as GGG has declined a lot due to age obviously while Canelo is in his prime at the moment. We might see another Pacman vs Ugas where the older fighter could hardly move  Grin.

I thought Canelo is the one declining and GGG is always open for a trilogy regardless of the age. There are talks in the past about the trilogy but Canelo is not interested as he claims he already win on that series.

This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.

Canelo got enraged to the point that he had already done some actions at the press conference. I believed too that Canelo is now more determined to win because of that trashtalks. I hope that his momentum won't be broken for that revenge.
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November 04, 2021, 06:36:15 PM
Upset will be very interesting and if that happened, lots of fans will call for that rematch.
But same with many opinions here, Alvarez still on his prime beating him is really a tough job for Plant to accomplish. The best thing is to try to find
every possible way to bother Alvarez and take a lucky punch to win, maybe next to impossible, but if luck permits that to happen,
Plant would be the very hot fighter to make a big noise all over the sports paces.
There is no way Canelo Alvarez will be out boxed by Caleb Plant and he is not a powerful one punch fighter and hence you cannot expect a lucky punch to get through against a fighter like Canelo Alvarez.

The only way Caleb Plant to win is Canelo Alvarez getting injured mid fight, other than that Canelo Alvarez is going to win by knockout in the later rounds.
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November 04, 2021, 06:31:41 PM
That dream fight already happened, in fact, they had already faced each other twice and in the 2nd fight, it was Canelo who won the fight. We know a trilogy would be an exciting one, but we should respect if Canelo does not want it anymore, besides, he is still dominating in his division and has nothing to prove anymore.

A trilogy with GGG may not be too exciting anymore for me as GGG has declined a lot due to age obviously while Canelo is in his prime at the moment. We might see another Pacman vs Ugas where the older fighter could hardly move  Grin.

This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.



This is a great odds because the odds for KO is lower so good decision mate. Just like the fight of Canelo against Callum Smith, it's possible that it will end up in the judges' scorecards where Canelo will be declared as a winner via unanimous decision. What happened in the press conference might add some spice and people would think Canelo would end this fight early but we know how smart he is, he does not fight by his emotion, he always uses his techniques to win, slowly but surely.
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November 04, 2021, 06:11:08 PM
Here is the final presser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri-vTx68dYU

No fanfare, just simply presser with both fighters answering questions from boxing reporters.

And as Canelo said, tune in, history in the making for this fight.
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November 04, 2021, 05:43:30 PM
This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.
Just trying to sell the fight, I don't there's anything more than that in the exchanges between them. Hell, even Plant knows that the odds are stacked against him, and this type of match up isn't going to encourage many casuals to watch, since as you say there's little chance of an upset on the night. Though, stranger things have happened.

Cancelo at the moment, is pretty much unchallenged. I don't think he has to worry about facing many people in the division, unfortunately for us this means he isn't likely to be fighting in back, and forth entertaining fights, and they'll just be one sided fights.

We don't know if Caleb is only trash talking for the sake of selling their fight. Some boxers really do this kind of trick so they can sell more tickets. Anyway, the odds are out long time ago and Caleb already see what bookies are giving him for the odds. Will he be motivated to aim for upset on this match? We know the caliber of Canelo here, so the likelihood of upset is very low. But when inside the ring, as you said stranger things can happen.
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November 04, 2021, 02:00:14 PM
This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.
Just trying to sell the fight, I don't there's anything more than that in the exchanges between them. Hell, even Plant knows that the odds are stacked against him, and this type of match up isn't going to encourage many casuals to watch, since as you say there's little chance of an upset on the night. Though, stranger things have happened.

Cancelo at the moment, is pretty much unchallenged. I don't think he has to worry about facing many people in the division, unfortunately for us this means he isn't likely to be fighting in back, and forth entertaining fights, and they'll just be one sided fights.
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November 04, 2021, 01:55:50 PM


A trilogy with GGG may not be too exciting anymore for me as GGG has declined a lot due to age obviously while Canelo is in his prime at the moment. We might see another Pacman vs Ugas where the older fighter could hardly move  Grin.

This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.



There's still such a thing as a lucky punch I never rule out an upset especially with Plant who has a good knock out percentage I know that Canelo is very good and at his prime but even patsy can come out an upset although I don't want to bet that Caleb Plant can beat Canelo, we really never know unless the fight is over.

We can't really conclude Wink most of us here are just pointing our opinions, but the fight will only be decided after the announcer declared the winner. Upset is not new to this venue, we just witness that with Pacquiao, most viewers continue to believe that Manny still has that.
edge after beating a much younger Thurman.

We can say that stats wise Alvarez is more dominated, but once luck punch to land in his critical area would give Plant the chance to win.

Though, I'm still with Alvarez here Grin I really admire his fighting style, not too aggressive, but once he made his move, he really dominates his opponent. Wink
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November 04, 2021, 10:24:38 AM


A trilogy with GGG may not be too exciting anymore for me as GGG has declined a lot due to age obviously while Canelo is in his prime at the moment. We might see another Pacman vs Ugas where the older fighter could hardly move  Grin.

This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.



There's still such a thing as a lucky punch I never rule out an upset especially with Plant who has a good knock out percentage I know that Canelo is very good and at his prime but even patsy can come out an upset although I don't want to bet that Caleb Plant can beat Canelo, we really never know unless the fight is over.
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