[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant - page 8.

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Will Pacquiao's son be able to follow his footstep in boxing? I think he is serious because he is now training with Canelo who is the top pound for pound king, Manny's son does not have to break the achievement of his father but winning a championship would already bring honor to his country.

I'm not underestimating the kid, but I guess he's not going to get closer to his father's achievements.
Manny has dedicated his blood and sweat for his passion who started at a very young age. Trained his body with all sorts of hard work. I guess there's a huge difference between dedication and passion over hobbies or a temporary interest.
I've seen him fight once, and he's not actually a bad fighter but what he needs to find is the purpose why he box.

On the other hand, Canelo could teach him a lot of lessons that Manny didn't taught him.

No offense or whatsoever, but I agree that the kid's future in this sport might not be the same as how his father established and achieved his career. All this dedication that puts Pacquiao to be the one of those few boxing legendary who bring pride not only to his country but a hero in every boxing enthusiast.

Though he might gain lots of skills from Canelo that he can use, just wondering does his mommy Jinky will allow to risk his life? Roll Eyes

they already have everything in terms of financial aspects, so why risk his health?

While financial motivation is many times one if not the only motivation many people do something we must understand that even if has everything he could ask in his life some people look for a way to make their own path, so while we only look at this as a risk being taken by someone that does not need it, he probably sees this as a challenge he wants to overcome, and when someone has that kind of motivation then there is no way to stop them.

If they don't allow him to risk his life in boxing, then they should not let him train. What's the purpose of doing it, he has to fly to the US to train with Canelo Alvarez and then they are just doing it for nothing? That doesn't make sense to me, actually, it's not just all about money, it's the passion an the low in sports as there are boxers that had a great financial life already but still took the risk of proving themselves to achieve their passion.

One example is Muhammad Ali's daughter Laila Amaria Ali, her father is a legend, the greatest boxer in the world and yet she still enter boxing to make a name for herself.

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Will Pacquiao's son be able to follow his footstep in boxing? I think he is serious because he is now training with Canelo who is the top pound for pound king, Manny's son does not have to break the achievement of his father but winning a championship would already bring honor to his country.

I'm not underestimating the kid, but I guess he's not going to get closer to his father's achievements.
Manny has dedicated his blood and sweat for his passion who started at a very young age. Trained his body with all sorts of hard work. I guess there's a huge difference between dedication and passion over hobbies or a temporary interest.
I've seen him fight once, and he's not actually a bad fighter but what he needs to find is the purpose why he box.

On the other hand, Canelo could teach him a lot of lessons that Manny didn't taught him.

No offense or whatsoever, but I agree that the kid's future in this sport might not be the same as how his father established and achieved his career. All this dedication that puts Pacquiao to be the one of those few boxing legendary who bring pride not only to his country but a hero in every boxing enthusiast.

Though he might gain lots of skills from Canelo that he can use, just wondering does his mommy Jinky will allow to risk his life? Roll Eyes

they already have everything in terms of financial aspects, so why risk his health?

While financial motivation is many times one if not the only motivation many people do something we must understand that even if has everything he could ask in his life some people look for a way to make their own path, so while we only look at this as a risk being taken by someone that does not need it, he probably sees this as a challenge he wants to overcome, and when someone has that kind of motivation then there is no way to stop them.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on October 21, 2021, 12:55:55 AM

It appears this Mexican Irishman has a plan hehehe. Caleb Plant might create some good rounds for himself, I reckon in the beginning. However, many boxing experts and commentators predict that Canelo will find his range, begin applying his tactics, shoulder rolls and cominations with power punches. Under 9.5 rounds according to Canelo’s own prediction.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SuJuZWobkuI

Is that under 9.5 rounds already have a betting odds?

I guess I'm willing to risk on that as long as the odds are good, knowing Canelo, although he is a slow starter, but once he sees an opportunity to KO an opponent, he would always take the opportunity and if Plant is only all talk, then for sure we can't expect this fight to end in 12 rounds.

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It appears this Mexican Irishman has a plan hehehe. Caleb Plant might create some good rounds for himself, I reckon in the beginning. However, many boxing experts and commentators predict that Canelo will find his range, begin applying his tactics, shoulder rolls and cominations with power punches. Under 9.5 rounds according to Canelo’s own prediction.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SuJuZWobkuI

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I just love this conversation between Mike Tyson and Claressa Shields on the coming Canelo - Plant fight, Claressa is very honest and straightforward on why Plant can't beat Canelo, Plant doesn't have the power and the snap on his punches, ok he can move like Mayweather but Canelo will have the answer to all the kind of attacks and style that he can bring to Canelo.

It doesn't really take an experts to really saw how the fight will turn out to be. And I agree, Plant maybe one of the weakest punchers that Canelo will face. So maybe he will just eat up Caleb's power and then dish out his own. I doubt that he can move like Mayweather, Caleb is flat footed and will go square off against his opponent and that's what makes him a good target for Canelo to launch his deadly left hook or body punch or upper-cut.

That's correct, if only Plant moves like Mayweather then he has a chance to beat Canelo. In terms of power, we can easily tell that Canelo had a huge advantage and he also had good boxing skills than Plant although Plant is undefeated as of now. Better if he learn how to play good defense as Canelo would not stop throwing hard punches on him.

Good defense with a good counter offense: if Plant will manage to deliver this strategy, the chance will increase for him to win. We all witness how good Canelo in terms of throwing converted punches, solid one that can knock his opponent down,

Plant need to work on it and make sure that he will find a way to avoid those punches to land in his face or any targets that will risk his chance.

If he can play well and do things the way Mayweather does, he might win from defending himself and try to convert his own punches.

Alvarez, though, may also surprise him with new sets of strategy that will take him down.

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I just love this conversation between Mike Tyson and Claressa Shields on the coming Canelo - Plant fight, Claressa is very honest and straightforward on why Plant can't beat Canelo, Plant doesn't have the power and the snap on his punches, ok he can move like Mayweather but Canelo will have the answer to all the kind of attacks and style that he can bring to Canelo.

It doesn't really take an experts to really saw how the fight will turn out to be. And I agree, Plant maybe one of the weakest punchers that Canelo will face. So maybe he will just eat up Caleb's power and then dish out his own. I doubt that he can move like Mayweather, Caleb is flat footed and will go square off against his opponent and that's what makes him a good target for Canelo to launch his deadly left hook or body punch or upper-cut.

That's correct, if only Plant moves like Mayweather then he has a chance to beat Canelo. In terms of power, we can easily tell that Canelo had a huge advantage and he also had good boxing skills than Plant although Plant is undefeated as of now. Better if he learn how to play good defense as Canelo would not stop throwing hard punches on him.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on October 20, 2021, 05:53:08 AM

I just love this conversation between Mike Tyson and Claressa Shields on the coming Canelo - Plant fight, Claressa is very honest and straightforward on why Plant can't beat Canelo, Plant doesn't have the power and the snap on his punches, ok he can move like Mayweather but Canelo will have the answer to all the kind of attacks and style that he can bring to Canelo.

It doesn't really take an experts to really saw how the fight will turn out to be. And I agree, Plant maybe one of the weakest punchers that Canelo will face. So maybe he will just eat up Caleb's power and then dish out his own. I doubt that he can move like Mayweather, Caleb is flat footed and will go square off against his opponent and that's what makes him a good target for Canelo to launch his deadly left hook or body punch or upper-cut.

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I just love this conversation between Mike Tyson and Claressa Shields on the coming Canelo - Plant fight, Claressa is very honest and straightforward on why Plant can't beat Canelo, Plant doesn't have the power and the snap on his punches, ok he can move like Mayweather but Canelo will have the answer to all the kind of attacks and style that he can bring to Canelo.

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@TravelMug. It is 2.00 for under 9.5 rounds. The odds are available and offered on Nitrogensports. I reckon they remain the best website for basic odds and offers.

In any case, Canelo is also training for under 9.5 rounds hehehe. This might become under 7.5 rounds when the fight nears. Caleb Plant will regret talking about his mother hehe.

https://youtu.be/R4lGsixTjoE

I'm gonna take that odds, this fight will not gonna go to the distance, Canelo is motivated to knockout Plant because of the disrespectful manners of Plant during the press conference. Actually, I have never seen Canelo this angry during the press conference in his previous fights, and guess what, he still dominate his opponent so most likely this is an exemption, he would dominate and KO his opponent early, 1-3 rounds is my prediction.

I´m a little more daring, I think that Canelo will knock out in the first 2 rounds, I think he will not reach the 3rd, the reason is the same why you think, that his lack of manners makes Canelo angry, and there is something that you cannot mix when you have a skill such as boxing, anger, if you fight with anger many times you do not measure the consequence of the damage that the blows will do, it is for that reason that many times some boxers die inside the ring due to a blow or contusion to the head.

I'm wondering what's the odds for that, we will not be able to get good odds if we bet on Canelo to win the entire fight but if we place a bet on per round, I'm sure it will be attractive enough for bettors to put some experiment on betting although it's hard to predict on what round Caleb will go down.

I hope somebody will not be triggered if we talk about Caleb going down as it's just a prediction and we place our bet based on our prediction, doesn't mean we are correct, it still depends on the outcome of the fight.

You are right, what happens is that sometimes we base ourselves on the total prediction of the winner without taking into account the bets per round, it is much more attractive and the adrenaline moves much more if it were done by Round, the domain can be clear and overwhelming from what most think, according to the probabilities they are just that, probability and statistics, they are numbers that do not indicate the reality of things, there are many activities to take into account, one of the things that very few take into account at the time to bet is the emotion that each boxer carries, what they think, how they react in front of all the spectators, the pressure they carry, many times a high morale makes them win the fight even if the statistics are against it, it is a very good point to consider.

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Gennady Golovkin is so far the closest and competitive opponent of Canelo in his career. I also like to see the trilogy between them and hopefully, it can be arranged. They need a part 3. But before that Canelo needs to settle first with Caleb Plant to become an undisputed boxer this year.

Won't be an easy fight for Canelo but I'm sure he can handle Caleb Plant. The latter has attractive odds to win but too risky to gamble with it.

With an unbiased jury, Golovkin would have won the matches of 2017 and 2018. There should have been a rematch in 2019, but Alvarez chickened out and refused to face GGG. Now there is no point in getting a trilogy fight in 2022. The fact remains clear - Canelo was afraid of a defeat in 2019 and therefore refused to face Golovkin for the third time. No matter how much glory he achieves at the boxing ring (there is no doubt that Canelo is an all time great), this one thing will remain as a black mark and haunt him forever.

I agree with this although Canelo could claim that there is no more point for a rematch because he has already won. But to someone who is neutral, the fight could have also be given to Golovkin. That's the reason why the judges only came up with a majority decision. The fight was not a convincing win for Canelo. If he was man enough to settle the score especially because their first match was also a split draw, he should have arranged for a rematch. The GGG-Canelo battle was never really settled. And it's because of Canelo avoiding it.

It will be a trilogy match like Wilder and Fury and it would be so entertaining and only GGG could match Canelo's skills and if GGG will retire soon, at least he has given the request of the fans to see him fight again Canelo, and I'm sure in terms of the purse in this fight, it will not be a problem as the promoter would love to promote a fight that is guaranteed to sell to the fans.

I doubt a trilogy would happen if one of the parties always avoids the potential fight. It will be very entertaining of course. GGG and Canelo are two of the best fighters who could give each other the best of fights. It's just unfortunate that Canelo seems not interested with a rematch when their business is not yet actually over. He may have won according to two judges' score cards in their first rematch but the boxing fans are clamoring for a second rematch because it was never a clear win for him. A lot of boxing fans are ever thinking it was GGG's game.

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Gennady Golovkin is so far the closest and competitive opponent of Canelo in his career. I also like to see the trilogy between them and hopefully, it can be arranged. They need a part 3. But before that Canelo needs to settle first with Caleb Plant to become an undisputed boxer this year.

Won't be an easy fight for Canelo but I'm sure he can handle Caleb Plant. The latter has attractive odds to win but too risky to gamble with it.

With an unbiased jury, Golovkin would have won the matches of 2017 and 2018. There should have been a rematch in 2019, but Alvarez chickened out and refused to face GGG. Now there is no point in getting a trilogy fight in 2022. The fact remains clear - Canelo was afraid of a defeat in 2019 and therefore refused to face Golovkin for the third time. No matter how much glory he achieves at the boxing ring (there is no doubt that Canelo is an all time great), this one thing will remain as a black mark and haunt him forever.

Just Like Mayweather refuse to take rematch against Manny Pacquiao , it is best to remain Undefeated recorded than facing an opponent that you are in doubt of winning continuously .

there are different types of Boxers .

there are others that want to test their capacity in fighting the toughest .

and there are also those type of Boxers that only looking for Fame .

The problem with Mayweather is that he avoided fighting Pacquiao during in his prime. Though as a businessman, I do understand the move of Mayweather in avoiding him since there is that risk of staining my undefeated record. But as a fighter, it is considered as a 'weak move'. That is also the reason on why many fans from all over the world see Pacquiao as one of the greatest fighters of all time.

Canelo, on the other hand, is a pure warrior and fighter. He challenges all the greatest on his weight division no matter who the fighter may be. But what really molded him to be the best fighter in his weight division was his fight between Mayweather where he lost. He learned so much from that fight that made him a complete force of nature.

Not only that, Mayweather is one of the boring fighters in the world who cares so much of his undefeated record and value it over the entertainment the fans supposed to get. Every time Mayweather fights, we hear boos but it never happened in Canelo's fight because he doesn't run but makes his opponent run.

I believe a lot of boxing fans don't really like Mayweather's style.
Aside from being boring and dull, he always seemed to pick his fights according to his advantage and like to be on the safe side.
This is why, he's a good technical fighter. But people want a real fight inside the ring just like what Pacquiao and Canelo's style.
So we may see Canelo thrive for years to come, up until his retirement. At least, make boxing alive and not boring.

Mayweather always tries to keep himself on the advantageous side through his tricks which looks boring. As said he wants to keep his name remembered. Another thing I find is the age. Mayweather is 40+ that makes him go for such techniques whereas Canelo is around 31 so his way of boxing differs as the young pumping can be seen high in him.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 18, 2021, 12:47:55 PM

In case of Alvarez, he still has some known names to fight and still collect a good paycheck. Just need to complete and win this one from Plant, then wait for another hot challenger. Cool

As long as Canelo continuously winning, a good paycheck will always come after. Even there are lots of challengers, the boxer should at least have a good recognition before Canelo's camp will take the bait. One of the known boxers that Canelo can take if he wins against Plant, is against the WBA light heavyweight champion Dmitry Bivol. He's the first option supposedly after Caleb Plant. I think he's the next one that Canelo will face.

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With an unbiased jury, Golovkin would have won the matches of 2017 and 2018. There should have been a rematch in 2019, but Alvarez chickened out and refused to face GGG. Now there is no point in getting a trilogy fight in 2022. The fact remains clear - Canelo was afraid of a defeat in 2019 and therefore refused to face Golovkin for the third time. No matter how much glory he achieves at the boxing ring (there is no doubt that Canelo is an all time great), this one thing will remain as a black mark and haunt him forever.

Both the fights were really close and i thought GGG won the first fight and the second one was another close one and may be if it was outside the US judges we might have seen a different result. All the boxing fans wanted to see the trilogy but Canelo Alvarez knows how hard it is face someone of the same caliber and he opted to fight other opponents.

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It's better for him to stay in the weight class where he is compatible and doesn't need to give much effort to defeat his opponents. Boxing is not just to conquer most of the weight division where you are not sure when you increase your weight and still have those power punches to shake your opponent cause most of the boxer only bring heavy body when they increase their weight and easily defeated by their opponents especially when their opponents are has been long compatible in those weight division.

I agree you should fight in your best weight category take the case of Mikey Garcia he loses two fights in the welterweight division because he cannot take the power and the speed from the category where he used to be the champion, Garcia is great but against fighters who are natural welterweight he is having a hard time, Canelo is doing great in his weight category let those who want to take a piece of him to get him in that weight category.

If you want to stay dominant, let those who wanted to have a piece of you to challenge you Wink

why would you need to go up and try to fight those who are dominating from the upper weight? you'll going to earn good money after all even you stay with your own division and keep winning your fight right? Roll Eyes

In case of Alvarez, he still has some known names to fight and still collect a good paycheck. Just need to complete and win this one from Plant, then wait for another hot challenger. Cool

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Gennady Golovkin is so far the closest and competitive opponent of Canelo in his career. I also like to see the trilogy between them and hopefully, it can be arranged. They need a part 3. But before that Canelo needs to settle first with Caleb Plant to become an undisputed boxer this year.

Won't be an easy fight for Canelo but I'm sure he can handle Caleb Plant. The latter has attractive odds to win but too risky to gamble with it.

With an unbiased jury, Golovkin would have won the matches of 2017 and 2018. There should have been a rematch in 2019, but Alvarez chickened out and refused to face GGG. Now there is no point in getting a trilogy fight in 2022. The fact remains clear - Canelo was afraid of a defeat in 2019 and therefore refused to face Golovkin for the third time. No matter how much glory he achieves at the boxing ring (there is no doubt that Canelo is an all time great), this one thing will remain as a black mark and haunt him forever.

Just Like Mayweather refuse to take rematch against Manny Pacquiao , it is best to remain Undefeated recorded than facing an opponent that you are in doubt of winning continuously .

there are different types of Boxers .

there are others that want to test their capacity in fighting the toughest .

and there are also those type of Boxers that only looking for Fame .

The problem with Mayweather is that he avoided fighting Pacquiao during in his prime. Though as a businessman, I do understand the move of Mayweather in avoiding him since there is that risk of staining my undefeated record. But as a fighter, it is considered as a 'weak move'. That is also the reason on why many fans from all over the world see Pacquiao as one of the greatest fighters of all time.

Canelo, on the other hand, is a pure warrior and fighter. He challenges all the greatest on his weight division no matter who the fighter may be. But what really molded him to be the best fighter in his weight division was his fight between Mayweather where he lost. He learned so much from that fight that made him a complete force of nature.

Not only that, Mayweather is one of the boring fighters in the world who cares so much of his undefeated record and value it over the entertainment the fans supposed to get. Every time Mayweather fights, we hear boos but it never happened in Canelo's fight because he doesn't run but makes his opponent run.

I believe a lot of boxing fans don't really like Mayweather's style.
Aside from being boring and dull, he always seemed to pick his fights according to his advantage and like to be on the safe side.
This is why, he's a good technical fighter. But people want a real fight inside the ring just like what Pacquiao and Canelo's style.
So we may see Canelo thrive for years to come, up until his retirement. At least, make boxing alive and not boring.

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Gennady Golovkin is so far the closest and competitive opponent of Canelo in his career. I also like to see the trilogy between them and hopefully, it can be arranged. They need a part 3. But before that Canelo needs to settle first with Caleb Plant to become an undisputed boxer this year.

Won't be an easy fight for Canelo but I'm sure he can handle Caleb Plant. The latter has attractive odds to win but too risky to gamble with it.

With an unbiased jury, Golovkin would have won the matches of 2017 and 2018. There should have been a rematch in 2019, but Alvarez chickened out and refused to face GGG. Now there is no point in getting a trilogy fight in 2022. The fact remains clear - Canelo was afraid of a defeat in 2019 and therefore refused to face Golovkin for the third time. No matter how much glory he achieves at the boxing ring (there is no doubt that Canelo is an all time great), this one thing will remain as a black mark and haunt him forever.

Just Like Mayweather refuse to take rematch against Manny Pacquiao , it is best to remain Undefeated recorded than facing an opponent that you are in doubt of winning continuously .

there are different types of Boxers .

there are others that want to test their capacity in fighting the toughest .

and there are also those type of Boxers that only looking for Fame .

The problem with Mayweather is that he avoided fighting Pacquiao during in his prime. Though as a businessman, I do understand the move of Mayweather in avoiding him since there is that risk of staining my undefeated record. But as a fighter, it is considered as a 'weak move'. That is also the reason on why many fans from all over the world see Pacquiao as one of the greatest fighters of all time.

Canelo, on the other hand, is a pure warrior and fighter. He challenges all the greatest on his weight division no matter who the fighter may be. But what really molded him to be the best fighter in his weight division was his fight between Mayweather where he lost. He learned so much from that fight that made him a complete force of nature.

Not only that, Mayweather is one of the boring fighters in the world who cares so much of his undefeated record and value it over the entertainment the fans supposed to get. Every time Mayweather fights, we hear boos but it never happened in Canelo's fight because he doesn't run but makes his opponent run.

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Gennady Golovkin is so far the closest and competitive opponent of Canelo in his career. I also like to see the trilogy between them and hopefully, it can be arranged. They need a part 3. But before that Canelo needs to settle first with Caleb Plant to become an undisputed boxer this year.

Won't be an easy fight for Canelo but I'm sure he can handle Caleb Plant. The latter has attractive odds to win but too risky to gamble with it.

With an unbiased jury, Golovkin would have won the matches of 2017 and 2018. There should have been a rematch in 2019, but Alvarez chickened out and refused to face GGG. Now there is no point in getting a trilogy fight in 2022. The fact remains clear - Canelo was afraid of a defeat in 2019 and therefore refused to face Golovkin for the third time. No matter how much glory he achieves at the boxing ring (there is no doubt that Canelo is an all time great), this one thing will remain as a black mark and haunt him forever.

Just Like Mayweather refuse to take rematch against Manny Pacquiao , it is best to remain Undefeated recorded than facing an opponent that you are in doubt of winning continuously .

there are different types of Boxers .

there are others that want to test their capacity in fighting the toughest .

and there are also those type of Boxers that only looking for Fame .

The problem with Mayweather is that he avoided fighting Pacquiao during in his prime. Though as a businessman, I do understand the move of Mayweather in avoiding him since there is that risk of staining my undefeated record. But as a fighter, it is considered as a 'weak move'. That is also the reason on why many fans from all over the world see Pacquiao as one of the greatest fighters of all time.

Canelo, on the other hand, is a pure warrior and fighter. He challenges all the greatest on his weight division no matter who the fighter may be. But what really molded him to be the best fighter in his weight division was his fight between Mayweather where he lost. He learned so much from that fight that made him a complete force of nature.

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It's better for him to stay in the weight class where he is compatible and doesn't need to give much effort to defeat his opponents. Boxing is not just to conquer most of the weight division where you are not sure when you increase your weight and still have those power punches to shake your opponent cause most of the boxer only bring heavy body when they increase their weight and easily defeated by their opponents especially when their opponents are has been long compatible in those weight division.

I agree you should fight in your best weight category take the case of Mikey Garcia he loses two fights in the welterweight division because he cannot take the power and the speed from the category where he used to be the champion, Garcia is great but against fighters who are natural welterweight he is having a hard time, Canelo is doing great in his weight category let those who want to take a piece of him to get him in that weight category.

Boxers will try to go up in weight if he feels he is not getting good challenge anymore, but the moment they'll feel their power does not belong to a height weight, then they can just go back to where they are dominant as they would just try to win afterall.

just like Donaire, he tried to go up but failed, now he is back to bantamweight and he is doing great.

IMO, only Pacman is successful enough to go up in weight and still dominate his opponent, that's during the time when he was still younger.

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Quote from: yazher on October 17, 2021, 11:51:27 PM

It's better for him to stay in the weight class where he is compatible and doesn't need to give much effort to defeat his opponents. Boxing is not just to conquer most of the weight division where you are not sure when you increase your weight and still have those power punches to shake your opponent cause most of the boxer only bring heavy body when they increase their weight and easily defeated by their opponents especially when their opponents are has been long compatible in those weight division.

I agree you should fight in your best weight category take the case of Mikey Garcia he loses two fights in the welterweight division because he cannot take the power and the speed from the category where he used to be the champion, Garcia is great but against fighters who are natural welterweight he is having a hard time, Canelo is doing great in his weight category let those who want to take a piece of him to get him in that weight category.

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Quote from: chaser15 on October 17, 2021, 07:59:41 PM

Gennady Golovkin is so far the closest and competitive opponent of Canelo in his career. I also like to see the trilogy between them and hopefully, it can be arranged. They need a part 3. But before that Canelo needs to settle first with Caleb Plant to become an undisputed boxer this year.

Won't be an easy fight for Canelo but I'm sure he can handle Caleb Plant. The latter has attractive odds to win but too risky to gamble with it.

With an unbiased jury, Golovkin would have won the matches of 2017 and 2018. There should have been a rematch in 2019, but Alvarez chickened out and refused to face GGG. Now there is no point in getting a trilogy fight in 2022. The fact remains clear - Canelo was afraid of a defeat in 2019 and therefore refused to face Golovkin for the third time. No matter how much glory he achieves at the boxing ring (there is no doubt that Canelo is an all time great), this one thing will remain as a black mark and haunt him forever.

I agree with this although Canelo could claim that there is no more point for a rematch because he has already won. But to someone who is neutral, the fight could have also be given to Golovkin. That's the reason why the judges only came up with a majority decision. The fight was not a convincing win for Canelo. If he was man enough to settle the score especially because their first match was also a split draw, he should have arranged for a rematch. The GGG-Canelo battle was never really settled. And it's because of Canelo avoiding it.

It will be a trilogy match like Wilder and Fury and it would be so entertaining and only GGG could match Canelo's skills and if GGG will retire soon, at least he has given the request of the fans to see him fight again Canelo, and I'm sure in terms of the purse in this fight, it will not be a problem as the promoter would love to promote a fight that is guaranteed to sell to the fans.

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