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October 16, 2021, 06:56:35 PM
Practice is different from the actual fight, although Canelo is exceptionally good we can never guarantee a win since Caleb would surely work to increase his chance of winning this fight. Canelo is getting better and better every time, but he is not perfect, he could also make a mistake that might cause him a defeat.

I agree with you that Canelo is not perfect but even Caleb is doing great from practice and working hard to increase his chance to win the fight, Canelo is also having the same. A great example that Caleb doesn't have that good reflexxes is when Canelo is able to throw a punch on his face at their press conference. That was actually easy to avoid but Caleb is not paying attention. Now that it happened, Caleb should watch for that.

He did not see the punch coming. What if they already inside the ring, and that punch got a good combo? He might suffer a KO by that time?

It's interesting and both camps are hardly prepared for this fight. Bookies are in favor of Alvarez, good for those gamblers who will side to Plant if upset takes place.  Wink Roll Eyes

He was slow and never anticipate that Canelo will throw a punch on him.

Caleb doesn't have good movement, maybe because in his previous fights, he was the aggressor early and his opponents keeps backing up. But this time he will be in the defense, he can't just push Canelo because he will be meet by those body shots and left hooks or uppercut.

Of course bookies are going to favor Alvarez, he is the A-side and the better fighter. Not underestimating Plant, but it is obvious that Canelo might get that 0 from him.
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October 16, 2021, 05:58:04 PM
Practice is different from the actual fight, although Canelo is exceptionally good we can never guarantee a win since Caleb would surely work to increase his chance of winning this fight. Canelo is getting better and better every time, but he is not perfect, he could also make a mistake that might cause him a defeat.

I agree with you that Canelo is not perfect but even Caleb is doing great from practice and working hard to increase his chance to win the fight, Canelo is also having the same. A great example that Caleb doesn't have that good reflexxes is when Canelo is able to throw a punch on his face at their press conference. That was actually easy to avoid but Caleb is not paying attention. Now that it happened, Caleb should watch for that.
I do not think we should make any conclusions about the fighting abilities of Caleb based on that incident, after all maybe he was not expecting that reaction from Canelo and he was simply unable to avoid the hit as he was surprised by the turn of events, however it is clear by the odds being given by the casinos that Canelo is the favorite by far and unless Caleb can connect some good punches at the beginning of the fight I do not see him having a chance against Canelo.
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October 16, 2021, 12:32:52 PM
Practice is different from the actual fight, although Canelo is exceptionally good we can never guarantee a win since Caleb would surely work to increase his chance of winning this fight. Canelo is getting better and better every time, but he is not perfect, he could also make a mistake that might cause him a defeat.

I agree with you that Canelo is not perfect but even Caleb is doing great from practice and working hard to increase his chance to win the fight, Canelo is also having the same. A great example that Caleb doesn't have that good reflexxes is when Canelo is able to throw a punch on his face at their press conference. That was actually easy to avoid but Caleb is not paying attention. Now that it happened, Caleb should watch for that.

Alvarez is taking this fight seriously, the chance that he also increasing his practices and more on watching Plant's previous fights to see the type of caliber Plant have, he is not perfect but he has better experienced fighting bigger and tougher opponents than Plant, we all see that press-con action and you said it right, Alvarez quick hand take Plant into surprise.

He did not see the punch coming. What if they already inside the ring, and that punch got a good combo? He might suffer a KO by that time?

It's interesting and both camps are hardly prepared for this fight. Bookies are in favor of Alvarez, good for those gamblers who will side to Plant if upset takes place.  Wink Roll Eyes
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October 16, 2021, 10:31:07 AM
Practice is different from the actual fight, although Canelo is exceptionally good we can never guarantee a win since Caleb would surely work to increase his chance of winning this fight. Canelo is getting better and better every time, but he is not perfect, he could also make a mistake that might cause him a defeat.

I agree with you that Canelo is not perfect but even Caleb is doing great from practice and working hard to increase his chance to win the fight, Canelo is also having the same. A great example that Caleb doesn't have that good reflexxes is when Canelo is able to throw a punch on his face at their press conference. That was actually easy to avoid but Caleb is not paying attention. Now that it happened, Caleb should watch for that.
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October 16, 2021, 08:18:11 AM
Did Caleb Plant also watch that knockout practice video hehehe?

In all honesty I do not know much about Caleb Plant. There was a trainer who was a guest in Mike Tyson’s podcast that predicted Caleb Plant can win because he has better boxing than Canelo. @Boafeng, you are the boxing expert, do you agree Caleb Plant is underestimated and has a better chance?

I hope Baofeng will agree with me that it's Billy Saunders that have the biggest chance of dethroning Canelo but he failed miserably so I don't think Caleb stood a chance against him even if he would box and run but I think Canelo's vicious body shots would slow down and hurt Plant in the latter rounds.

Seen the practice video, oh man, if some of those hit Caleb then it's over for him.

Practice is different from the actual fight, although Canelo is exceptionally good we can never guarantee a win since Caleb would surely work to increase his chance of winning this fight. Canelo is getting better and better every time, but he is not perfect, he could also make a mistake that might cause him a defeat.
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October 16, 2021, 07:49:47 AM
Did Caleb Plant also watch that knockout practice video hehehe?

In all honesty I do not know much about Caleb Plant. There was a trainer who was a guest in Mike Tyson’s podcast that predicted Caleb Plant can win because he has better boxing than Canelo. @Boafeng, you are the boxing expert, do you agree Caleb Plant is underestimated and has a better chance?

I hope Baofeng will agree with me that it's Billy Saunders that have the biggest chance of dethroning Canelo but he failed miserably so I don't think Caleb stood a chance against him even if he would box and run but I think Canelo's vicious body shots would slow down and hurt Plant in the latter rounds.

Seen the practice video, oh man, if some of those hit Caleb then it's over for him.
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October 16, 2021, 05:13:44 AM
@TravelMug. It is 2.00 for under 9.5 rounds. The odds are available and offered on Nitrogensports. I reckon they remain the best website for basic odds and offers.

In any case, Canelo is also training for under 9.5 rounds hehehe. This might become under 7.5 rounds when the fight nears. Caleb Plant will regret talking about his mother hehe.

https://youtu.be/R4lGsixTjoE

I'm gonna take that odds, this fight will not gonna go to the distance, Canelo is motivated to knockout Plant because of the disrespectful manners of Plant during the press conference. Actually, I have never seen Canelo this angry during the press conference in his previous fights, and guess what, he still dominate his opponent so most likely this is an exemption, he would dominate and KO his opponent early, 1-3 rounds is my prediction.

if you are rooting for canelo, yes much better if you will bet the over/under as the odds are better than betting full-time. as canelo is motivated to finish this fight early because of the surrounding drama, placing bet under may be a good choice. this event is fast approaching so hoping that no other reasons that they will cancel this fight.

and btw, based from this article, caleb was not actually talking about his mom, but he was referring to canelo himself. just a misunderstanding.

Did Caleb Plant also watch that knockout practice video hehehe?

In all honesty I do not know much about Caleb Plant. There was a trainer who was a guest in Mike Tyson’s podcast that predicted Caleb Plant can win because he has better boxing than Canelo. @Boafeng, you are the boxing expert, do you agree Caleb Plant is underestimated and has a better chance?

Canelo has the experience while Caleb is still gaining some, so my opinion is Caleb here is the underdog. I'm not underestimating him but if Caleb is going to lose, that's for sure because of lack of experience. My bet would be on Canelo because mexican boxers are the rival of great filipino boxers, and their determination to fight is no joke, they'll fight 'till their drop on the ring.
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October 16, 2021, 02:59:11 AM
@TravelMug. It is 2.00 for under 9.5 rounds. The odds are available and offered on Nitrogensports. I reckon they remain the best website for basic odds and offers.

In any case, Canelo is also training for under 9.5 rounds hehehe. This might become under 7.5 rounds when the fight nears. Caleb Plant will regret talking about his mother hehe.

https://youtu.be/R4lGsixTjoE

I'm gonna take that odds, this fight will not gonna go to the distance, Canelo is motivated to knockout Plant because of the disrespectful manners of Plant during the press conference. Actually, I have never seen Canelo this angry during the press conference in his previous fights, and guess what, he still dominate his opponent so most likely this is an exemption, he would dominate and KO his opponent early, 1-3 rounds is my prediction.

if you are rooting for canelo, yes much better if you will bet the over/under as the odds are better than betting full-time. as canelo is motivated to finish this fight early because of the surrounding drama, placing bet under may be a good choice. this event is fast approaching so hoping that no other reasons that they will cancel this fight.

and btw, based from this article, caleb was not actually talking about his mom, but he was referring to canelo himself. just a misunderstanding.

Did Caleb Plant also watch that knockout practice video hehehe?

In all honesty I do not know much about Caleb Plant. There was a trainer who was a guest in Mike Tyson’s podcast that predicted Caleb Plant can win because he has better boxing than Canelo. @Boafeng, you are the boxing expert, do you agree Caleb Plant is underestimated and has a better chance?
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October 16, 2021, 01:30:09 AM
I´m a little more daring, I think that Canelo will knock out in the first 2 rounds, I think he will not reach the 3rd, the reason is the same why you think, that his lack of manners makes Canelo angry, and there is something that you cannot mix when you have a skill such as boxing, anger, if you fight with anger many times you do not measure the consequence of the damage that the blows will do, it is for that reason that many times some boxers die inside the ring due to a blow or contusion to the head.

Under two rounds is just too much, I think under 9.5 is a good bet if you think this fight will end in a knockout. The first few rounds will be some sort of sizing their opponents and adjusting to the range and the real fighting would be on the 2nd quarter of the fight.

I haven't seen Canelo knock out his opponents in under 2 rounds. And it's not good for the fans who paid hundred if not thousands of dollars to see him fight live, not worth the money. He used at least make it a good fight for us.

Canelo has been through this many times already, his opponents usually trash-talk him hoping to provoke him, and lost his focus come fight time but definitely that is not going to happen as Canelo is a disciplined fighter and he sticks to the fight plan as always.

Sure, he might have been offended by Caleb's trash talking. But he is a champion and only one thing in his mind come fight night, to beat Caleb and take his belt and be the best super middleweight.
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October 16, 2021, 12:18:15 AM
I´m a little more daring, I think that Canelo will knock out in the first 2 rounds, I think he will not reach the 3rd, the reason is the same why you think, that his lack of manners makes Canelo angry, and there is something that you cannot mix when you have a skill such as boxing, anger, if you fight with anger many times you do not measure the consequence of the damage that the blows will do, it is for that reason that many times some boxers die inside the ring due to a blow or contusion to the head.

Under two rounds is just too much, I think under 9.5 is a good bet if you think this fight will end in a knockout. The first few rounds will be some sort of sizing their opponents and adjusting to the range and the real fighting would be on the 2nd quarter of the fight.

Canelo has been through this many times already, his opponents usually trash-talk him hoping to provoke him, and lost his focus come fight time but definitely that is not going to happen as Canelo is a disciplined fighter and he sticks to the fight plan as always.

Not seeing him winning in just under two rounds, this fight is champion vs champion, unless Canelo see one opening and Caleb was caught off guard and not playing defense. But as I have said, these are champions and knows what to do in the early goings and not get caught.

Under 9.5 is a better bet with Canelo's fight, cause he can get his opponents around 6 and up. When he has settled down and see what his opponent can offer and how he will react with his feint and traps.


Canelo will find a shot as he always does. It's a champ vs champ but the experience in facing big opponents will show how hard they could win over fighters. If Caleb can block his jaws, it's the liver punch that will make Calen open. It's how they find an opening to boxers who curl themselves.

Comparing their skills, it's going to surprise us that the fight could end in the first round if they will just fight to stand their ground.
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October 16, 2021, 12:15:37 AM
Well he already said it, Caleb disrespected his mother so Canelo should be extra motivated to knock him out early.

However, it will not be an easy task, and if Canelo's mindset is like that, it might backfire on him as he is looking for a knockout. And Canelo is known to be a slow starter, that's why the under 10.5 might be a good bet for us. He usually gets hot after 4-5 rounds and starts to dismantle his opponents. But probably 1-3 rounds is like "a get to feel your opponent and see how he react" for Canelo.

Just because Canelo want to knockout Caleb, it will not happen. Caleb is no cakewalk for Canelo. I would expect the fight to last for at least a minimum of 9 rounds and there is a 50% probability IMO that it may last for the full 12 rounds. An upset victory for Caleb is very very unlikely, but Canelo might have to work really hard for his win and Caleb will rank as one of his toughest opponents to date. All that said, Canelo is not someone who easily gets provoked. So I don't think that he'll be triggered by Caleb's words.
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October 15, 2021, 10:03:41 PM
I´m a little more daring, I think that Canelo will knock out in the first 2 rounds, I think he will not reach the 3rd, the reason is the same why you think, that his lack of manners makes Canelo angry, and there is something that you cannot mix when you have a skill such as boxing, anger, if you fight with anger many times you do not measure the consequence of the damage that the blows will do, it is for that reason that many times some boxers die inside the ring due to a blow or contusion to the head.

Under two rounds is just too much, I think under 9.5 is a good bet if you think this fight will end in a knockout. The first few rounds will be some sort of sizing their opponents and adjusting to the range and the real fighting would be on the 2nd quarter of the fight.

Canelo has been through this many times already, his opponents usually trash-talk him hoping to provoke him, and lost his focus come fight time but definitely that is not going to happen as Canelo is a disciplined fighter and he sticks to the fight plan as always.

Not seeing him winning in just under two rounds, this fight is champion vs champion, unless Canelo see one opening and Caleb was caught off guard and not playing defense. But as I have said, these are champions and knows what to do in the early goings and not get caught.

Under 9.5 is a better bet with Canelo's fight, cause he can get his opponents around 6 and up. When he has settled down and see what his opponent can offer and how he will react with his feint and traps.
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October 15, 2021, 06:26:14 PM
I´m a little more daring, I think that Canelo will knock out in the first 2 rounds, I think he will not reach the 3rd, the reason is the same why you think, that his lack of manners makes Canelo angry, and there is something that you cannot mix when you have a skill such as boxing, anger, if you fight with anger many times you do not measure the consequence of the damage that the blows will do, it is for that reason that many times some boxers die inside the ring due to a blow or contusion to the head.

Under two rounds is just too much, I think under 9.5 is a good bet if you think this fight will end in a knockout. The first few rounds will be some sort of sizing their opponents and adjusting to the range and the real fighting would be on the 2nd quarter of the fight.

Canelo has been through this many times already, his opponents usually trash-talk him hoping to provoke him, and lost his focus come fight time but definitely that is not going to happen as Canelo is a disciplined fighter and he sticks to the fight plan as always.
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October 15, 2021, 05:34:43 PM
@TravelMug. It is 2.00 for under 9.5 rounds. The odds are available and offered on Nitrogensports. I reckon they remain the best website for basic odds and offers.

In any case, Canelo is also training for under 9.5 rounds hehehe. This might become under 7.5 rounds when the fight nears. Caleb Plant will regret talking about his mother hehe.

https://youtu.be/R4lGsixTjoE

I'm gonna take that odds, this fight will not gonna go to the distance, Canelo is motivated to knockout Plant because of the disrespectful manners of Plant during the press conference. Actually, I have never seen Canelo this angry during the press conference in his previous fights, and guess what, he still dominate his opponent so most likely this is an exemption, he would dominate and KO his opponent early, 1-3 rounds is my prediction.

I´m a little more daring, I think that Canelo will knock out in the first 2 rounds, I think he will not reach the 3rd, the reason is the same why you think, that his lack of manners makes Canelo angry, and there is something that you cannot mix when you have a skill such as boxing, anger, if you fight with anger many times you do not measure the consequence of the damage that the blows will do, it is for that reason that many times some boxers die inside the ring due to a blow or contusion to the head.


I'm wondering what's the odds for that, we will not be able to get good odds if we bet on Canelo to win the entire fight but if we place a bet on per round, I'm sure it will be attractive enough for bettors to put some experiment on betting although it's hard to predict on what round Caleb will go down.

I hope somebody will not be triggered if we talk about Caleb going down as it's just a prediction and we place our bet based on our prediction, doesn't mean we are correct, it still depends on the outcome of the fight.
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October 15, 2021, 02:38:03 PM
@TravelMug. It is 2.00 for under 9.5 rounds. The odds are available and offered on Nitrogensports. I reckon they remain the best website for basic odds and offers.

In any case, Canelo is also training for under 9.5 rounds hehehe. This might become under 7.5 rounds when the fight nears. Caleb Plant will regret talking about his mother hehe.

https://youtu.be/R4lGsixTjoE

I'm gonna take that odds, this fight will not gonna go to the distance, Canelo is motivated to knockout Plant because of the disrespectful manners of Plant during the press conference. Actually, I have never seen Canelo this angry during the press conference in his previous fights, and guess what, he still dominate his opponent so most likely this is an exemption, he would dominate and KO his opponent early, 1-3 rounds is my prediction.

I´m a little more daring, I think that Canelo will knock out in the first 2 rounds, I think he will not reach the 3rd, the reason is the same why you think, that his lack of manners makes Canelo angry, and there is something that you cannot mix when you have a skill such as boxing, anger, if you fight with anger many times you do not measure the consequence of the damage that the blows will do, it is for that reason that many times some boxers die inside the ring due to a blow or contusion to the head.
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October 15, 2021, 12:59:42 PM
if you are rooting for canelo, yes much better if you will bet the over/under as the odds are better than betting full-time. as canelo is motivated to finish this fight early because of the surrounding drama, placing bet under may be a good choice. this event is fast approaching so hoping that no other reasons that they will cancel this fight.

and btw, based from this article, caleb was not actually talking about his mom, but he was referring to canelo himself. just a misunderstanding.

It's a total misunderstanding on the part of Canelo that resulted a fiery face off between Plant. The fight is fast approaching and odds on these upcoming fight are on favor on Canelo while Plant stands as underdog but who knows what will going to be the result after their fight this coming November 6. Despite of what have been happened on their face off I would go place a bet on Canelo which I prefer to based on the past fight records of a fighter.
Everyone would bet on Canelo to win as he is a heavy favorite to win against Plant, and what happened in the press conference only put more hate on the Plant from Canelo's fans and they want to see Plant suffer in the hands of Canelo. I understand that we should not underestimate Plant, but his attitude towards the champion is unacceptable as he disrespected a woman that Canelo loves so much.

It might be good if Canelo will put a deliberating and painful beat down of Caleb instead of going for a early knockout. I remember Usyk doing that to one of his opponents, (I forgot the name), he just played and toyed with that fighter before the referee stops the fight.

That could be one of a fight for Canelo and punishing Caleb from round 1 to 12. Totally destroying him physically and emotionally.

That is a bad move in my opinion, if the knock out presents itself then Canelo will go for it.

But saying that he will intentionally make Caleb suffer by extending the fight itself? I doubt that coach Reynoso will have that kind of tactic. Canelo should be wise enough by now that he could be hit by a punch that can change the complexion of the fight. For sure they have they game plan already, but I doubt that this strategy will be one of them.
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October 15, 2021, 11:32:35 AM

If Canelo will change his style and become eager to knock out Caleb early, then we might see a different outcome than our expectation in this fight. Caleb's camp understands that their chance to win is low, so they have to do some dirty strategy here to destroy the focus of Canelo so they can take advantage on that, however, we cannot say it will happen as Canelo has been in many battle and he dominate most of them.

Alvarez was tested by time, from all those tough fights that he been thru

 this strategy of Plant may won't work but instead serves as inspiration to him to take this one as more serious than those previous fights that he had.

If Plant's camp seen this as opportunities, they should have an additional counter for Alvarez. The guy is really a complete package fighter,

skills and experienced both can be dominated by Alvarez.
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October 15, 2021, 09:41:40 AM
if you are rooting for canelo, yes much better if you will bet the over/under as the odds are better than betting full-time. as canelo is motivated to finish this fight early because of the surrounding drama, placing bet under may be a good choice. this event is fast approaching so hoping that no other reasons that they will cancel this fight.

and btw, based from this article, caleb was not actually talking about his mom, but he was referring to canelo himself. just a misunderstanding.

It's a total misunderstanding on the part of Canelo that resulted a fiery face off between Plant. The fight is fast approaching and odds on these upcoming fight are on favor on Canelo while Plant stands as underdog but who knows what will going to be the result after their fight this coming November 6. Despite of what have been happened on their face off I would go place a bet on Canelo which I prefer to based on the past fight records of a fighter.
Everyone would bet on Canelo to win as he is a heavy favorite to win against Plant, and what happened in the press conference only put more hate on the Plant from Canelo's fans and they want to see Plant suffer in the hands of Canelo. I understand that we should not underestimate Plant, but his attitude towards the champion is unacceptable as he disrespected a woman that Canelo loves so much.

It might be good if Canelo will put a deliberating and painful beat down of Caleb instead of going for a early knockout. I remember Usyk doing that to one of his opponents, (I forgot the name), he just played and toyed with that fighter before the referee stops the fight.

That could be one of a fight for Canelo and punishing Caleb from round 1 to 12. Totally destroying him physically and emotionally.

That depends on him, but if he is really angry with Caleb, there's no need to give Caleb a chance but to beat him early as that's a more impressive win for him compared to his past fights. As a fan, we are also got carried away with what they show to us, and we don't know if it's real or just stage, but regardless, we just have to cheer on our fighter and hope we will win our bet as well.
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October 15, 2021, 09:04:10 AM
if you are rooting for canelo, yes much better if you will bet the over/under as the odds are better than betting full-time. as canelo is motivated to finish this fight early because of the surrounding drama, placing bet under may be a good choice. this event is fast approaching so hoping that no other reasons that they will cancel this fight.

and btw, based from this article, caleb was not actually talking about his mom, but he was referring to canelo himself. just a misunderstanding.

It's a total misunderstanding on the part of Canelo that resulted a fiery face off between Plant. The fight is fast approaching and odds on these upcoming fight are on favor on Canelo while Plant stands as underdog but who knows what will going to be the result after their fight this coming November 6. Despite of what have been happened on their face off I would go place a bet on Canelo which I prefer to based on the past fight records of a fighter.
Everyone would bet on Canelo to win as he is a heavy favorite to win against Plant, and what happened in the press conference only put more hate on the Plant from Canelo's fans and they want to see Plant suffer in the hands of Canelo. I understand that we should not underestimate Plant, but his attitude towards the champion is unacceptable as he disrespected a woman that Canelo loves so much.

It might be good if Canelo will put a deliberating and painful beat down of Caleb instead of going for a early knockout. I remember Usyk doing that to one of his opponents, (I forgot the name), he just played and toyed with that fighter before the referee stops the fight.

That could be one of a fight for Canelo and punishing Caleb from round 1 to 12. Totally destroying him physically and emotionally.
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October 15, 2021, 08:28:29 AM
I'm gonna take that odds, this fight will not gonna go to the distance, Canelo is motivated to knockout Plant because of the disrespectful manners of Plant during the press conference. Actually, I have never seen Canelo this angry during the press conference in his previous fights, and guess what, he still dominate his opponent so most likely this is an exemption, he would dominate and KO his opponent early, 1-3 rounds is my prediction.

Dude, no one is saying here that Caleb is going to win. But you are taking this too far. If Caleb was someone who gets knocked out in the first 3 rounds, then he wouldn't be fighting Canelo in the first place. What do you really think about this match? When was the last time we had a unification match where someone got knocked out within the first 3 rounds? Show some respect to Caleb, as he earned his fight against Canelo. At least he has remained undefeated so far at the ring (although it is not going to matter much against Canelo).

Haha, show some respect @Finestream, what is your basis that Caleb will be knockout within the first 3 rounds? I think that's unlikely since Caleb has never KO before and he also knows how to protect himself as a champion, however, no one can predict what would happen so let's see.

Well he already said it, Caleb disrespected his mother so Canelo should be extra motivated to knock him out early.

However, it will not be an easy task, and if Canelo's mindset is like that, it might backfire on him as he is looking for a knockout. And Canelo is known to be a slow starter, that's why the under 10.5 might be a good bet for us. He usually gets hot after 4-5 rounds and starts to dismantle his opponents. But probably 1-3 rounds is like "a get to feel your opponent and see how he react" for Canelo.

If Canelo will change his style and become eager to knock out Caleb early, then we might see a different outcome than our expectation in this fight. Caleb's camp understands that their chance to win is low, so they have to do some dirty strategy here to destroy the focus of Canelo so they can take advantage on that, however, we cannot say it will happen as Canelo has been in many battle and he dominate most of them.
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