[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant - page 6.

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Quote from: Kasabus on November 03, 2021, 01:33:47 AM

That dream fight already happened, in fact, they had already faced each other twice and in the 2nd fight, it was Canelo who won the fight. We know a trilogy would be an exciting one, but we should respect if Canelo does not want it anymore, besides, he is still dominating in his division and has nothing to prove anymore.

A trilogy with GGG may not be too exciting anymore for me as GGG has declined a lot due to age obviously while Canelo is in his prime at the moment. We might see another Pacman vs Ugas where the older fighter could hardly move Grin

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This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.

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Age is not a problem because Plant is 29 years old and Canelo is 31, there's not much of an age gap and I'm pretty sure Canelo is still young and he is in his prime now. We will certainly see a great fight but on the side of the gamblers, it will be harder to find a good odds since Canelo is a heavy favorite.

That is the age of boxers where a boxer is at its prime, there is no age factor to consider, we can only consider skills punches and of course motivation, they both have a big motivation to win and they are both hungry to win if the fights turn out to be excited like a draw or Canelo get upset there's a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy, fans are still yearning for GGG - Canelo, but this also has the making of a trilogy depending on the outcome of the fight, we all love rematch and trilogy because it's the continuation of the excitement brought by two boxers.

Sadly, Canelo doesn't want to fight with GGG again. It's 2-0 for him. He should give the fans another chance to see their fight for the last time as GGG is the only one who is capable of beating Canelo toe to toe.

And by surprise, the output instead will be GGG vs Caleb Plant because of that. Grin

As you state it, Canelo doesn't want anything with GGG, and this is kind of sad, but this Canelo fight with Caleb can warm up the engines, maybe some questions after the fight (Assuming Canelo wins) can put in direct context For a possible meeting with GGG, which for me, this is a dream fight, without detracting from all that Caleb can do, if in that case Caleb wins, the scenario may be that with GGG the possibility is much less.

Although nothing is written, everything can happen, and everything depends on the managers of each boxer and what each of them can offer, the important thing is a show that has more emotion.

That dream fight already happened, in fact, they had already faced each other twice and in the 2nd fight, it was Canelo who won the fight. We know a trilogy would be an exciting one, but we should respect if Canelo does not want it anymore, besides, he is still dominating in his division and has nothing to prove anymore.

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Age is not a problem because Plant is 29 years old and Canelo is 31, there's not much of an age gap and I'm pretty sure Canelo is still young and he is in his prime now. We will certainly see a great fight but on the side of the gamblers, it will be harder to find a good odds since Canelo is a heavy favorite.

That is the age of boxers where a boxer is at its prime, there is no age factor to consider, we can only consider skills punches and of course motivation, they both have a big motivation to win and they are both hungry to win if the fights turn out to be excited like a draw or Canelo get upset there's a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy, fans are still yearning for GGG - Canelo, but this also has the making of a trilogy depending on the outcome of the fight, we all love rematch and trilogy because it's the continuation of the excitement brought by two boxers.

Sadly, Canelo doesn't want to fight with GGG again. It's 2-0 for him. He should give the fans another chance to see their fight for the last time as GGG is the only one who is capable of beating Canelo toe to toe.

And by surprise, the output instead will be GGG vs Caleb Plant because of that. Grin

As you state it, Canelo doesn't want anything with GGG, and this is kind of sad, but this Canelo fight with Caleb can warm up the engines, maybe some questions after the fight (Assuming Canelo wins) can put in direct context For a possible meeting with GGG, which for me, this is a dream fight, without detracting from all that Caleb can do, if in that case Caleb wins, the scenario may be that with GGG the possibility is much less.

Although nothing is written, everything can happen, and everything depends on the managers of each boxer and what each of them can offer, the important thing is a show that has more emotion.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 01, 2021, 01:04:54 AM

Age is not a problem because Plant is 29 years old and Canelo is 31, there's not much of an age gap and I'm pretty sure Canelo is still young and he is in his prime now. We will certainly see a great fight but on the side of the gamblers, it will be harder to find a good odds since Canelo is a heavy favorite.

That is the age of boxers where a boxer is at its prime, there is no age factor to consider, we can only consider skills punches and of course motivation, they both have a big motivation to win and they are both hungry to win if the fights turn out to be excited like a draw or Canelo get upset there's a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy, fans are still yearning for GGG - Canelo, but this also has the making of a trilogy depending on the outcome of the fight, we all love rematch and trilogy because it's the continuation of the excitement brought by two boxers.

Sadly, Canelo doesn't want to fight with GGG again. It's 2-0 for him. He should give the fans another chance to see their fight for the last time as GGG is the only one who is capable of beating Canelo toe to toe.

And by surprise, the output instead will be GGG vs Caleb Plant because of that. Grin

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That's right. Age is somehow just a big deal if we are talking about a boxer on 40+. But for 29 and 31, it's still on their prime, or should I say, post-prime and 4-5 years later on, can now be called a veteran boxer.

For the names like Canelo Alvarez, Caleb Plant, Golovkin, etc. age should be removed as part of the analysis. Better refer to their previous fight as your references.

Canelo Alvarez is just 31 and i would like to say he is in his prime shape but he already had 59 fights which is a really huge number considering he is only 31 and it is hard to predict how much damage he took in those fights because i have not watched all of his fights but he is a veteran of the sport and the level of experience is really high on the other hand Caleb Plant is two years younger but he only have 21 fights.

Experience matters over age in boxing.

You are right there that being a 31 is not an advantage for Caleb Plants.

Who started this age issue? 31 against 29 isn't really a gap. I'm more that age is a problem when Manny Pacquiao is against those below 30 years old and fighting against a prime but still can match their power.

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Quote from: harizen on November 01, 2021, 06:30:48 PM

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That's right. Age is somehow just a big deal if we are talking about a boxer on 40+. But for 29 and 31, it's still on their prime, or should I say, post-prime and 4-5 years later on, can now be called a veteran boxer.

For the names like Canelo Alvarez, Caleb Plant, Golovkin, etc. age should be removed as part of the analysis. Better refer to their previous fight as your references.

Canelo Alvarez is just 31 and i would like to say he is in his prime shape but he already had 59 fights which is a really huge number considering he is only 31 and it is hard to predict how much damage he took in those fights because i have not watched all of his fights but he is a veteran of the sport and the level of experience is really high on the other hand Caleb Plant is two years younger but he only have 21 fights.

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Quote from: robelneo on November 01, 2021, 04:28:00 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 01, 2021, 01:04:54 AM

Age is not a problem because Plant is 29 years old and Canelo is 31, there's not much of an age gap and I'm pretty sure Canelo is still young and he is in his prime now. We will certainly see a great fight but on the side of the gamblers, it will be harder to find a good odds since Canelo is a heavy favorite.

That is the age of boxers where a boxer is at its prime, there is no age factor to consider, we can only consider skills punches and of course motivation, they both have a big motivation to win and they are both hungry to win if the fights turn out to be excited like a draw or Canelo get upset there's a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy, fans are still yearning for GGG - Canelo, but this also has the making of a trilogy depending on the outcome of the fight, we all love rematch and trilogy because it's the continuation of the excitement brought by two boxers.

That's right. Age is somehow just a big deal if we are talking about a boxer on 40+. But for 29 and 31, it's still on their prime, or should I say, post-prime and 4-5 years later on, can now be called a veteran boxer.

For the names like Canelo Alvarez, Caleb Plant, Golovkin, etc. age should be removed as part of the analysis. Better refer to their previous fight as your references.

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Quote from: robelneo on November 01, 2021, 04:28:00 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 01, 2021, 01:04:54 AM

Age is not a problem because Plant is 29 years old and Canelo is 31, there's not much of an age gap and I'm pretty sure Canelo is still young and he is in his prime now. We will certainly see a great fight but on the side of the gamblers, it will be harder to find a good odds since Canelo is a heavy favorite.

That is the age of boxers where a boxer is at its prime, there is no age factor to consider, we can only consider skills punches and of course motivation, they both have a big motivation to win and they are both hungry to win if the fights turn out to be excited like a draw or Canelo get upset there's a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy, fans are still yearning for GGG - Canelo, but this also has the making of a trilogy depending on the outcome of the fight, we all love rematch and trilogy because it's the continuation of the excitement brought by two boxers.

Upset will be very interesting and if that happened, lots of fans will call for that rematch.

But same with many opinions here, Alvarez still on his prime beating him is really a tough job for Plant to accomplish. The best thing is to try to find

every possible way to bother Alvarez and take a lucky punch to win, maybe next to impossible, but if luck permits that to happen,

Plant would be the very hot fighter to make a big noise all over the sports paces.

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it will be very good to wait because they both have ambitions and this can also be said to be a historic unification duel to determine who is the true champion of Super Middleweight.
and this becomes even more interesting when Mike Tyson feels Caleb Plant will run out in the hands of Canelo Alvarez, who incidentally is currently serving as the king of world boxing.
And it's great whether Plant can maintain his undefeated boxing record or is it Canelo's.

I have no doubt that Canelo will win, the only undefeated fighter here is Caleb Plant, Canelo is not as he has one loss and that is against Floyd Mayweather Jr. who retired undefeated. It's a big challenge for Caleb to beat Canelo who is currently the pound for pound king, but if he will succeed, he will get the crown.

a lot of people predict it, especially with his deadly and hard punches coupled with the maturity of his age and experience, I think he can beat Plant in this match.
while plant is a boxer who is indeed quite agile and maybe to plant agility it will be very difficult to match canelo because plant is still fitter and younger than canelo.
but i'm pretty sure canelo can make a moment where maybe this match will be plant's first KO

Age is not a problem because Plant is 29 years old and Canelo is 31, there's not much of an age gap and I'm pretty sure Canelo is still young and he is in his prime now. We will certainly see a great fight but on the side of the gamblers, it will be harder to find a good odds since Canelo is a heavy favorite.

Canelo's experience is at least much more experienced even if it's only a little, besides that he is the holder of three super middle division world titles, namely WBC, WBA Super and WBO.
other than that his ability in the ring can not be doubted so it is certain that he is very superior.
Even though Plant is not something to be taken lightly, Canelo is far superior in every way.
a great match will definitely take place but for the champion i still cant hope

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 01, 2021, 01:04:54 AM

Age is not a problem because Plant is 29 years old and Canelo is 31, there's not much of an age gap and I'm pretty sure Canelo is still young and he is in his prime now. We will certainly see a great fight but on the side of the gamblers, it will be harder to find a good odds since Canelo is a heavy favorite.

That is the age of boxers where a boxer is at its prime, there is no age factor to consider, we can only consider skills punches and of course motivation, they both have a big motivation to win and they are both hungry to win if the fights turn out to be excited like a draw or Canelo get upset there's a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy, fans are still yearning for GGG - Canelo, but this also has the making of a trilogy depending on the outcome of the fight, we all love rematch and trilogy because it's the continuation of the excitement brought by two boxers.

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AFAIK, all the fights of Alvarez are entertaining, including his fight against Mayweather where he was totally schooled.
If Caleb Plant will live on his statement that he will beat Canelo, then we can expect another great fight, and we can even expect a KO in this fight.

This is the last fight of Canelo this year (most probably), so he has to finish this year with a good match as when he continues to dominate and entertain the fans, money will come easy for him.

it will be very good to wait because they both have ambitions and this can also be said to be a historic unification duel to determine who is the true champion of Super Middleweight.
and this becomes even more interesting when Mike Tyson feels Caleb Plant will run out in the hands of Canelo Alvarez, who incidentally is currently serving as the king of world boxing.
And it's great whether Plant can maintain his undefeated boxing record or is it Canelo's.

I have no doubt that Canelo will win, the only undefeated fighter here is Caleb Plant, Canelo is not as he has one loss and that is against Floyd Mayweather Jr. who retired undefeated. It's a big challenge for Caleb to beat Canelo who is currently the pound for pound king, but if he will succeed, he will get the crown.

a lot of people predict it, especially with his deadly and hard punches coupled with the maturity of his age and experience, I think he can beat Plant in this match.
while plant is a boxer who is indeed quite agile and maybe to plant agility it will be very difficult to match canelo because plant is still fitter and younger than canelo.
but i'm pretty sure canelo can make a moment where maybe this match will be plant's first KO

Age is not a problem because Plant is 29 years old and Canelo is 31, there's not much of an age gap and I'm pretty sure Canelo is still young and he is in his prime now. We will certainly see a great fight but on the side of the gamblers, it will be harder to find a good odds since Canelo is a heavy favorite.

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Quote from: aioc on October 31, 2021, 11:23:00 AM

This will be next week Plant is the underdog in this fight while Canelo is the heavy favorite, what are the chances that the fight will be similar to the Caraballo - Sultan fight, where Sultan is the underdog but has gone to knock down Caraballo 4 times en route to a unanimous decision, I will not rule out an upset here because Plant is very much capable, this will be the most anticipating match of the year, I hope they can eclipse the Fury - Wilder match.
Good luck to the winner of this fight.

It will only be a very small chance. Also, Caraballo is not comparable to Canelo. Who is this Caraballo? Canelo has fought the greatest boxers in the world and has lost only versus Floyd Mayweather. This will be Canelo the winner on 9th round or before 9th round.

It will also not eclipse Fury versus Wilder hehehe. I reckon only Spence versus Crawford will do this.

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Quote from: agustina2 on October 29, 2021, 04:32:21 PM

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Schooled? That's not an appropriate thought because Canelo is just in his early years of boxing when he fought Mayweather. Lack of experience and don't have yet some of the special moves. If they will fight on prime, Canelo has the chance to beat Mayweather.

When Canelo Álvarez faced Floyd Mayweather he already had 43 professional fights and you cannot call that inexperience. Canelo Álvarez was much younger but in the fight game he had enough experience when he faced him and he is a legend of the sport and no one can debate that.

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On the topic, it seems that some boxing analysts consider Caleb Plant can take a chance to win the fight. Maybe they are referring to both boxer's current training regimes.

It is not surprising because all the American analyst will give Caleb Plant a chance against Canelo Álvarez and as a fight fan anything is possible in a fight but i am rooting for Canelo Álvarez to win the fight.

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Quote from: aioc on October 31, 2021, 11:23:00 AM

This will be next week Plant is the underdog in this fight while Canelo is the heavy favorite, what are the chances that the fight will be similar to the Caraballo - Sultan fight, where Sultan is the underdog but has gone to knock down Caraballo 4 times en route to a unanimous decision, I will not rule out an upset here because Plant is very much capable, this will be the most anticipating match of the year, I hope they can eclipse the Fury - Wilder match.
Good luck to the winner of this fight.

Very far if we will consider the experienced and who's fighter we are talking with.

Alvarez if we will discuss all those experiences that he has from this sport, it's incomparable , Caraballo is a rising star while Alvarez has a huge number of winnings against popular and well-experienced stars. Though no one really knows if how this fight will end, bookies and most of those experienced gamblers see how far the differences among these two champs.

Alvarez is still superior and he will prove that he's very disappointed with how Plant treats this fight and sends those trash talks

Very interesting to see if Plant will come up and surprise everyone if upset takes place. Grin

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AFAIK, all the fights of Alvarez are entertaining, including his fight against Mayweather where he was totally schooled.
If Caleb Plant will live on his statement that he will beat Canelo, then we can expect another great fight, and we can even expect a KO in this fight.

This is the last fight of Canelo this year (most probably), so he has to finish this year with a good match as when he continues to dominate and entertain the fans, money will come easy for him.

it will be very good to wait because they both have ambitions and this can also be said to be a historic unification duel to determine who is the true champion of Super Middleweight.
and this becomes even more interesting when Mike Tyson feels Caleb Plant will run out in the hands of Canelo Alvarez, who incidentally is currently serving as the king of world boxing.
And it's great whether Plant can maintain his undefeated boxing record or is it Canelo's.

I have no doubt that Canelo will win, the only undefeated fighter here is Caleb Plant, Canelo is not as he has one loss and that is against Floyd Mayweather Jr. who retired undefeated. It's a big challenge for Caleb to beat Canelo who is currently the pound for pound king, but if he will succeed, he will get the crown.

a lot of people predict it, especially with his deadly and hard punches coupled with the maturity of his age and experience, I think he can beat Plant in this match.
while plant is a boxer who is indeed quite agile and maybe to plant agility it will be very difficult to match canelo because plant is still fitter and younger than canelo.
but i'm pretty sure canelo can make a moment where maybe this match will be plant's first KO

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This will be next week Plant is the underdog in this fight while Canelo is the heavy favorite, what are the chances that the fight will be similar to the Caraballo - Sultan fight, where Sultan is the underdog but has gone to knock down Caraballo 4 times en route to a unanimous decision, I will not rule out an upset here because Plant is very much capable, this will be the most anticipating match of the year, I hope they can eclipse the Fury - Wilder match.
Good luck to the winner of this fight.

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What is the time for the fight itself of Canelo versus Plant? Would it be the same time slot again similar to one of Canelo’s fights and Nate Diaz versus Jorge Masvidal where the organizers let Canelo wait for the UFC to finish before starting his own fight?

Here's the information regarding the fight.

https://champinon.info/schedule/alvarez-vs-plant/#close

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On which TV channel can I watch the live broadcast of the fight Saul Alvarez versus Caleb Plant?

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https://www.fite.tv/watch/canelo-vs-plant/2pabi/?cjevent=efad30403a5011ec80c448a80a180513

and SHOWTIME

https://champinon.info/schedule/alvarez-vs-plant/#iw-modal

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Date and Time
The fight night will begin on Saturday, November 6 at 9 p.m. ET / 6 p.m. PT.

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The fight will be held at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA.

Hope that helps.

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What is the time for the fight itself of Canelo versus Plant? Would it be the same time slot again similar to one of Canelo’s fights and Nate Diaz versus Jorge Masvidal where the organizers let Canelo wait for the UFC to finish before starting his own fight?

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Quote from: Jating on October 30, 2021, 02:17:10 PM

It's seems that Mike Tyson is on the Canelo bandwagon as well. In his podcast, "Hotboxin with Mike Tyson", Mike said said

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"This guy [Canelo Alvarez] is going to f**cking kill Caleb Plant. He's your friend, you're going to his funeral.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCLWK7SFKIQ

Maybe Mike trying to be real here and majority of us here thinks that Caleb won't last the full 12 rounds with this version of Canelo. Or maybe Mike is just trying to be funny here, Lol.

Seems that Iron Mike is finding his way to connect with fans. A kind of comment like this will attract more fans to follow him. There's an upcoming exhibition between him and Logan Paul, right? This participation with the crowd will make him visible, for sure his not just talking but he also understands the big advantages of Alvarez against Plant.

A good feed from the former KO maniac, from what he's saying it's not just a simple KO but a funeral Grin

Too much hypes but who knows, anything is possible. Hopefully, no accident like that to happen though!

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Quote from: Botnake on October 29, 2021, 10:02:23 AM

I don't like to expect a rematch as the status of Canelo now is always untouchable, he is dominating in his division and no fighter so far that even have a close fight against him, all the fight he won was won in a dominant passion, and as the betting odds suggest, we might see the same in this fight.

as you said, canelo is currently so strong with the title of king of world boxing it is very suitable to be pinned to him at this time.
Plant is a pretty good fighter but Canelo I think is on a different level, and almost untouchable.
it is very likely that Canelo will be able to beat Plant with his hard punches and knock him out like Canelo did in the other matches before this, but indeed high confidence is also not good because Plant is currently still benefiting from his agility in movement, although this will be difficult to overcome. beat canelo

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