[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant - page 12.

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Quote from: judeafante on October 12, 2021, 09:50:44 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on October 12, 2021, 05:36:04 AM

Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

Mayweather's career is over he is semi-retired he will fight for exhibition, Canelo's career is at its peak he will have a lot of great fights and a lot of money coming in, in three or four years he can surpass Mayweather's career earning, and could become one of the boxers with highest earnings, Canelo is one of the most exciting boxers to watch in this era.

If the growing demands triggered Canelos career but considering what the world is suffering right now, every fights that being settled are questionable to convert a huge amount of profits, some may gain and some might have breakeven, others though got canceled due to other concerns including the potential more loss because of lacking interest from the fans,.

Mayweather's timing was superb, his peak also accompanied by growing technologies, social media hypes gives him best privilege to earn more money from both sponsors and the organization who settled the fights.

Though we are not sure to what future will bring to Canelo's career, if he can also use the same channel as Mayweather he might surpass what Mayweather has now in terms of profits.

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 12, 2021, 05:36:04 AM

Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

Mayweather's career is over he is semi-retired he will fight for exhibition, Canelo's career is at its peak he will have a lot of great fights and a lot of money coming in, in three or four years he can surpass Mayweather's career earning, and could become one of the boxers with highest earnings, Canelo is one of the most exciting boxers to watch in this era.

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Quote from: Viscore on October 11, 2021, 07:33:08 AM

It depends on the skills of the fighter as we have some champions who are good at trash-talking, good example is Floyd Mayweather Jr., he is a very smart fighter, it doesn't matter to him if people call him boring as long as he makes tons of money in boxing and was able to retain his undefeated record.

Floyd was really unique. Floyd Mayweather to boxing is what Tiger Woods is to golf, or Cristiano Ronaldo to football. I really doubt whether any other fighter would be able to achieve as much success as Mayweather did. He earned hundreds of millions of USD from his boxing career and others like Canelo are far behind him. Even Mike Tyson at his prime couldn't earn as much as Mayweather. Will Canelo ever be able to match him? I really doubt that. Canelo doesn't have the same fan following as Mayweather.

Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

According to this article, https://wealthygorilla.com/richest-boxers-world/

Floyd is the richest boxer in the world with a $560 Million net worth and I guess it's not included what he earned after professional boxing as he has been making money still on exhibition fights.

I think the article is not accurate, how come Canelo is not included when this article says that his net worth is $140 million already.

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/sal-lvarez-net-worth/

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Saul Alvarez Net Worth:
$140 Million
Saul Alvarez Net Worth and Career Earnings: Saul Alvarez, AKA "Canelo", is a professional Mexican boxer in the Light Middleweight division who has a net worth of $140 million. Alvarez is a four-division world champion who has been described as the best pound-for-pound boxer in the sport, as of 2020. Saul Alvarez has proven a formidable opponent for virtually every fighter he's ever faced.

And take note, he is still active and he can still grow this net worth as he continues to have more fights.

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 12, 2021, 05:36:04 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 11, 2021, 11:16:32 PM

Quote from: Viscore on October 11, 2021, 07:33:08 AM

It depends on the skills of the fighter as we have some champions who are good at trash-talking, good example is Floyd Mayweather Jr., he is a very smart fighter, it doesn't matter to him if people call him boring as long as he makes tons of money in boxing and was able to retain his undefeated record.

Floyd was really unique. Floyd Mayweather to boxing is what Tiger Woods is to golf, or Cristiano Ronaldo to football. I really doubt whether any other fighter would be able to achieve as much success as Mayweather did. He earned hundreds of millions of USD from his boxing career and others like Canelo are far behind him. Even Mike Tyson at his prime couldn't earn as much as Mayweather. Will Canelo ever be able to match him? I really doubt that. Canelo doesn't have the same fan following as Mayweather.

Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

According to this article, https://wealthygorilla.com/richest-boxers-world/

Floyd is the richest boxer in the world with a $560 Million net worth and I guess it's not included what he earned after professional boxing as he has been making money still on exhibition fights.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 11, 2021, 11:16:32 PM

Quote from: Viscore on October 11, 2021, 07:33:08 AM

It depends on the skills of the fighter as we have some champions who are good at trash-talking, good example is Floyd Mayweather Jr., he is a very smart fighter, it doesn't matter to him if people call him boring as long as he makes tons of money in boxing and was able to retain his undefeated record.

Floyd was really unique. Floyd Mayweather to boxing is what Tiger Woods is to golf, or Cristiano Ronaldo to football. I really doubt whether any other fighter would be able to achieve as much success as Mayweather did. He earned hundreds of millions of USD from his boxing career and others like Canelo are far behind him. Even Mike Tyson at his prime couldn't earn as much as Mayweather. Will Canelo ever be able to match him? I really doubt that. Canelo doesn't have the same fan following as Mayweather.

Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 11, 2021, 11:16:32 PM

Quote from: Viscore on October 11, 2021, 07:33:08 AM

It depends on the skills of the fighter as we have some champions who are good at trash-talking, good example is Floyd Mayweather Jr., he is a very smart fighter, it doesn't matter to him if people call him boring as long as he makes tons of money in boxing and was able to retain his undefeated record.

Floyd was really unique. Floyd Mayweather to boxing is what Tiger Woods is to golf, or Cristiano Ronaldo to football. I really doubt whether any other fighter would be able to achieve as much success as Mayweather did. He earned hundreds of millions of USD from his boxing career and others like Canelo are far behind him. Even Mike Tyson at his prime couldn't earn as much as Mayweather. Will Canelo ever be able to match him? I really doubt that. Canelo doesn't have the same fan following as Mayweather.

Who knows, with many promoters and advertisers, Canelo, being a pound per pound champ, still has that chance. Mayweather though established his name and retire with a complete undefeated stat, this guy was so smart his trash talks accompanied by his skills, he called the fans attentions even those who are against him are forced to buy tickets just to see him lose the fight.

That kind of appearance is now hard to find, converting your haters to a ticket sales, Roll Eyes

look at him in each exhibition matches, he still magnetized money from fans and haters, people still buying the fight to extend that he's fighting a clown inside the boxing ring. Tongue

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Quote from: Viscore on October 11, 2021, 07:33:08 AM

It depends on the skills of the fighter as we have some champions who are good at trash-talking, good example is Floyd Mayweather Jr., he is a very smart fighter, it doesn't matter to him if people call him boring as long as he makes tons of money in boxing and was able to retain his undefeated record.

Floyd was really unique. Floyd Mayweather to boxing is what Tiger Woods is to golf, or Cristiano Ronaldo to football. I really doubt whether any other fighter would be able to achieve as much success as Mayweather did. He earned hundreds of millions of USD from his boxing career and others like Canelo are far behind him. Even Mike Tyson at his prime couldn't earn as much as Mayweather. Will Canelo ever be able to match him? I really doubt that. Canelo doesn't have the same fan following as Mayweather.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on October 11, 2021, 03:54:33 AM

Quote from: TimeTeller on October 10, 2021, 06:37:52 PM

But don't underestimate Caleb, as he very well know that he is the underdog here.
And he is trash talking, so he should show what he's got under his sleeves.
Otherwise, if he will not put a good fight, people will not believe on him anymore.
Upsets can happen, but this one seems not to be included in this category. Let us see...

But usually a trash talker is lose due to his full confidence Grin

Plant's career wouldn't end if he lose with Alvarez in this fight, most people know Plant's will lose but he still got respected by all his supporters. He's not only created to fight with Alvarez isn't? He can fight with another good boxer and gain more reputation.

The odds is only 1.09 for Alvarez it's not attractive for me to bet, as it's not worth to take the risk.

There are some very famous trash talkers that were the best, one example of this is Ali, everyone knew that he was the best but he wasted no opportunity to remind everyone this was the case, however it also depends on how this is done, people of this day even love the trash talking of Ali, but if the trash taking is all about insulting their opponent and the fans like more the opponent than the trash talker then the fan base will turn against him, which is what it is happening to Caleb.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on October 11, 2021, 03:54:33 AM

Quote from: TimeTeller on October 10, 2021, 06:37:52 PM

But don't underestimate Caleb, as he very well know that he is the underdog here.
And he is trash talking, so he should show what he's got under his sleeves.
Otherwise, if he will not put a good fight, people will not believe on him anymore.
Upsets can happen, but this one seems not to be included in this category. Let us see...

But usually a trash talker is lose due to his full confidence Grin

Plant's career wouldn't end if he lose with Alvarez in this fight, most people know Plant's will lose but he still got respected by all his supporters. He's not only created to fight with Alvarez isn't? He can fight with another good boxer and gain more reputation.

The odds is only 1.09 for Alvarez it's not attractive for me to bet, as it's not worth to take the risk.

It depends on the skills of the fighter as we have some champions who are good at trash-talking, good example is Floyd Mayweather Jr., he is a very smart fighter, it doesn't matter to him if people call him boring as long as he makes tons of money in boxing and was able to retain his undefeated record.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on October 10, 2021, 06:37:52 PM

But don't underestimate Caleb, as he very well know that he is the underdog here.
And he is trash talking, so he should show what he's got under his sleeves.
Otherwise, if he will not put a good fight, people will not believe on him anymore.
Upsets can happen, but this one seems not to be included in this category. Let us see...

But usually a trash talker is lose due to his full confidence Grin

Plant's career wouldn't end if he lose with Alvarez in this fight, most people know Plant's will lose but he still got respected by all his supporters. He's not only created to fight with Alvarez isn't? He can fight with another good boxer and gain more reputation.

The odds is only 1.09 for Alvarez it's not attractive for me to bet, as it's not worth to take the risk.

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 10, 2021, 09:37:46 PM

Going back to the scuffle though, I read that Caleb calls Canelo, mother***er. But Canelo took the word

Quote from: Maslate on October 10, 2021, 07:24:42 AM

Canelo Alvarez is not an American, you can't blame him if he doesn't fully understand the meaning of the words, and they have different cultures, so there's really a conflict calling him a mother ^^^^ker. Anyway, it happened already, maybe they should just focus on their upcoming fight, and stop those banter of trash talks.

Not blaming him, maybe he over reacted or really didn't understand the context when an American is telling it to his face. As I have said, Canelo has learn and improved his English so I doubt that he doesn't understand the meaning of the MF word, just saying. But since Caleb has ignited Canelo, yeah all we can do and wait for them to fight.

Regardless of his reason on why he reacted that way it happened already and they're both agressive to face each other and see who is ahead of this fight. But its true that because of the face off incident we might gain idea already on how that fight gonna be and now both of them are motivated to win.

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Quote from: Jating on October 10, 2021, 09:53:51 PM

Yeah, we wouldn't want a good upset? Specially against Canelo who seems to be unbeatable and just smashing his opponents. And Caleb is also a champion in his own right, so we can't discounted that maybe there is a slim chance that an upset can happen. And we haven't seen Canelo really put in his back and trying to come back in the fight, maybe in the GGG as it was very close. But after the GGG fight, he just knock out or stop previous champions and champions. And now only Caleb stands in his way to unify all the belts at 168 lbs in short amount of time.

Well.. Caleb is the champion.. and he has been unbeaten so far. But has he faced anyone who can even remotely be compared to Canelo in the past? Caleb Truax is the only name that I could recognize (that one ended in UD, and Plant couldn't knockout his opponent). I am always a big supporter of the underdogs. And in boxing, I have made some money betting in favor of such athletes. But this time, I don't see any logic in making a bet for Caleb. I am not saying that he has 0% chance of a win, but the probability is very near to zero.

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I'm not really sure though if trash talking will stop since Caleb has started and then Canelo responded putting a gash in his face. Yeah, could be the different culture, not defending Caleb, but I agree that Canelo's English thus improved and he should know by now what a mother ^^^^ker means for Americans. And since Fury vs Wilder III is done, this is the next most anticipated fight of the year for us boxing fans.

When you learn a language the first you will learn is the cuss words and you do not need to learn the language thoroughly to understand the cuss words and Canelo Alvarez is fighting in US soil for a long time even though he lives in Mexico and it is not hard to understand the meaning of these words Grin

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Since Caleb Plant has taken this fight on a person note i am curious to see how Canelo Alvarez is going to fight and whether he will punish him badly before knocking him out cold.

That is the expectation now, he makes Canelo mad, only two things could happen, it's either Canelo will get distracted and will not be able to focus on the game plan, or Caleb won't be able to take Canelo's attack and it will result to a KO that he has never experienced before.

You don't mess with Canelo, he is currently the pound for pound king and he dominated in the division where he is at now.

But don't underestimate Caleb, as he very well know that he is the underdog here.
And he is trash talking, so he should show what he's got under his sleeves.
Otherwise, if he will not put a good fight, people will not believe on him anymore.
Upsets can happen, but this one seems not to be included in this category. Let us see...

Yeah, we wouldn't want a good upset? Specially against Canelo who seems to be unbeatable and just smashing his opponents. And Caleb is also a champion in his own right, so we can't discounted that maybe there is a slim chance that an upset can happen. And we haven't seen Canelo really put in his back and trying to come back in the fight, maybe in the GGG as it was very close. But after the GGG fight, he just knock out or stop previous champions and champions. And now only Caleb stands in his way to unify all the belts at 168 lbs in short amount of time.

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Quote from: Maslate on October 10, 2021, 07:24:42 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on October 09, 2021, 08:24:11 PM

Going back to the scuffle though, I read that Caleb calls Canelo, mother***er. But Canelo took the word literally, per Caleb and he thinks that he is attacking his mother that's why Canelo reacted in such fashion. I know Canelo has been improving his English in the last couple of years and for sure he knows what mother***er mean. Maybe it was just lost in translation, but Caleb said that Canelo calls Demetrius Andrade the same, after the BJS fight.

Caleb should have known in the first place how Canelo would reach, though he did not take it literally but it's still a big disrespect to him.

Right, but Caleb's point is that Canelo is also saying that words to Andrade. So he can dish it out, but can't take it.

Quote from: Maslate on October 10, 2021, 07:24:42 AM

Canelo Alvarez is not an American, you can't blame him if he doesn't fully understand the meaning of the words, and they have different cultures, so there's really a conflict calling him a mother ^^^^ker. Anyway, it happened already, maybe they should just focus on their upcoming fight, and stop those banter of trash talks.

Not blaming him, maybe he over reacted or really didn't understand the context when an American is telling it to his face. As I have said, Canelo has learn and improved his English so I doubt that he doesn't understand the meaning of the MF word, just saying. But since Caleb has ignited Canelo, yeah all we can do and wait for them to fight.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 10, 2021, 05:05:12 PM

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I'm not really sure though if trash talking will stop since Caleb has started and then Canelo responded putting a gash in his face. Yeah, could be the different culture, not defending Caleb, but I agree that Canelo's English thus improved and he should know by now what a mother ^^^^ker means for Americans. And since Fury vs Wilder III is done, this is the next most anticipated fight of the year for us boxing fans.

When you learn a language the first you will learn is the cuss words and you do not need to learn the language thoroughly to understand the cuss words and Canelo Alvarez is fighting in US soil for a long time even though he lives in Mexico and it is not hard to understand the meaning of these words Grin

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Since Caleb Plant has taken this fight on a person note i am curious to see how Canelo Alvarez is going to fight and whether he will punish him badly before knocking him out cold.

That is the expectation now, he makes Canelo mad, only two things could happen, it's either Canelo will get distracted and will not be able to focus on the game plan, or Caleb won't be able to take Canelo's attack and it will result to a KO that he has never experienced before.

You don't mess with Canelo, he is currently the pound for pound king and he dominated in the division where he is at now.

But don't underestimate Caleb, as he very well know that he is the underdog here.
And he is trash talking, so he should show what he's got under his sleeves.
Otherwise, if he will not put a good fight, people will not believe on him anymore.
Upsets can happen, but this one seems not to be included in this category. Let us see...

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Quote from: ene1980 on October 10, 2021, 04:38:10 PM

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 10, 2021, 03:41:39 PM

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I'm not really sure though if trash talking will stop since Caleb has started and then Canelo responded putting a gash in his face. Yeah, could be the different culture, not defending Caleb, but I agree that Canelo's English thus improved and he should know by now what a mother ^^^^ker means for Americans. And since Fury vs Wilder III is done, this is the next most anticipated fight of the year for us boxing fans.

When you learn a language the first you will learn is the cuss words and you do not need to learn the language thoroughly to understand the cuss words and Canelo Alvarez is fighting in US soil for a long time even though he lives in Mexico and it is not hard to understand the meaning of these words Grin

.

Since Caleb Plant has taken this fight on a person note i am curious to see how Canelo Alvarez is going to fight and whether he will punish him badly before knocking him out cold.

That is the expectation now, he makes Canelo mad, only two things could happen, it's either Canelo will get distracted and will not be able to focus on the game plan, or Caleb won't be able to take Canelo's attack and it will result to a KO that he has never experienced before.

You don't mess with Canelo, he is currently the pound for pound king and he dominated in the division where he is at now.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 10, 2021, 03:41:39 PM

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I'm not really sure though if trash talking will stop since Caleb has started and then Canelo responded putting a gash in his face. Yeah, could be the different culture, not defending Caleb, but I agree that Canelo's English thus improved and he should know by now what a mother ^^^^ker means for Americans. And since Fury vs Wilder III is done, this is the next most anticipated fight of the year for us boxing fans.

When you learn a language the first you will learn is the cuss words and you do not need to learn the language thoroughly to understand the cuss words and Canelo Alvarez is fighting in US soil for a long time even though he lives in Mexico and it is not hard to understand the meaning of these words Grin

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Since Caleb Plant has taken this fight on a person note i am curious to see how Canelo Alvarez is going to fight and whether he will punish him badly before knocking him out cold.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 10, 2021, 03:41:39 PM

Quote from: Maslate on October 10, 2021, 07:24:42 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on October 09, 2021, 08:24:11 PM

Going back to the scuffle though, I read that Caleb calls Canelo, mother***er. But Canelo took the word literally, per Caleb and he thinks that he is attacking his mother that's why Canelo reacted in such fashion. I know Canelo has been improving his English in the last couple of years and for sure he knows what mother***er mean. Maybe it was just lost in translation, but Caleb said that Canelo calls Demetrius Andrade the same, after the BJS fight.

Caleb should have known in the first place how Canelo would reach, though he did not take it literally but it's still a big disrespect to him.

Canelo Alvarez is not an American, you can't blame him if he doesn't fully understand the meaning of the words, and they have different cultures, so there's really a conflict calling him a mother ^^^^ker. Anyway, it happened already, maybe they should just focus on their upcoming fight, and stop those banter of trash talks.

I'm not really sure though if trash talking will stop since Caleb has started and then Canelo responded putting a gash in his face. Yeah, could be the different culture, not defending Caleb, but I agree that Canelo's English thus improved and he should know by now what a mother ^^^^ker means for Americans. And since Fury vs Wilder III is done, this is the next most anticipated fight of the year for us boxing fans.

No doubt that this is one of the most anticipated fights, the trash-talking really help to hype up the fight, even more, we know that Canelo could sell a fight but this is different, they probably have sold better numbers due to the controversy they made during the press conference. No more excitement in the Heavyweight division now as Fury won't probably fight this year, he will enjoy his success on the Trilogy fight.

Going back, I like to see how the bookies will show the odds of this fight which until now I still could not find it available.

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Quote from: Maslate on October 10, 2021, 07:24:42 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on October 09, 2021, 08:24:11 PM

Going back to the scuffle though, I read that Caleb calls Canelo, mother***er. But Canelo took the word literally, per Caleb and he thinks that he is attacking his mother that's why Canelo reacted in such fashion. I know Canelo has been improving his English in the last couple of years and for sure he knows what mother***er mean. Maybe it was just lost in translation, but Caleb said that Canelo calls Demetrius Andrade the same, after the BJS fight.

Caleb should have known in the first place how Canelo would reach, though he did not take it literally but it's still a big disrespect to him.

Canelo Alvarez is not an American, you can't blame him if he doesn't fully understand the meaning of the words, and they have different cultures, so there's really a conflict calling him a mother ^^^^ker. Anyway, it happened already, maybe they should just focus on their upcoming fight, and stop those banter of trash talks.

I'm not really sure though if trash talking will stop since Caleb has started and then Canelo responded putting a gash in his face. Yeah, could be the different culture, not defending Caleb, but I agree that Canelo's English thus improved and he should know by now what a mother ^^^^ker means for Americans. And since Fury vs Wilder III is done, this is the next most anticipated fight of the year for us boxing fans.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on October 09, 2021, 05:05:29 PM

Rich people who gamblers are smart as well, they will not put a bet when they think it's not worth to risk, and 1.08 may be attractive for some but for other rich gamblers, it may be too low for the return of their money. As a gambler, rich or not, all we want is to win and be satisfied, without achieving that, we will not enjoy gambling, so it's wise if we will just sit this one than forcing ourselves to bet when they are not confident enough

Gambling is all about taking chances, if you find value in an underdog there is nothing wrong in placing a bet on that. Majority will not wage money line for Canelo Alvarez but there are other odds available as well where you can place a bet on the rounds then there is Asian Total,winning method and there are plenty of other combinations you can select to wage a bet.

Yes, you can also parlay this fight with other kinds of sports. There are many alternatives if you don't like the odd for ML,
it's gamblers decision as there are always fans that will accept this low odd but will put a decent amount of bets.

They are comfortable that Alvarez will take this one and small odd is more than enough if they place a good amount of bets, right?

If you think it's not valuable, then find other fight or just enjoy watching the fight without risking your money. Grin

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