Topic: [Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7 (Read 3129 times)

I'm locking this thread for good.

We have seen the Canelo might have  "biting off more than you can chew" attitude.

So Bivol defeated him, opening doors for maybe a unification fight at LHW.

While there is a rematch clause, we will have to wait if Canelo will exercise it, but according to him he is willing to have a second fight. And this could jeopardize the anticipated trilogy with GGG.

I agree that Canelo should stick to his weigh category. Canelo beat Kovalev and though that it is now easy to beat guys in this category.

Lets look on Kovalev - he had a hard fight against Yarde. He has got about 2 months to prepare to a fight against top boxer. Is 2 months enough to prepare for Canelo? Boxers have 1-2 fights per year. But Kovalev got little time.

Next, have you seen Bivol showing bruises on his right arm biceps? Canelo was emphasizing every punch, he was loaded for a KO. That works only for your weight class. But when you face a boxer that is heavier than you and he moved - such tactics fails.

Where is old Canelo? He used to land combinations. What I saw was slow single heavy punches, a combo of few punches rarely. Wtf Canelo was doing? Pretending to be single punch knockout boxer?

And this is where the money is, so Bivol can take this right away, earn good money while battering Canelo again for full 12 rounds.

If I'm Canelo though, I will just stick my nose to the weight class that I'm more familiar and dominant instead of chasing Bivol in a division wherein it was obvious not his. Canelo's camp should be why not to let him lose a fight against Bivol. Or better yet, as promised to us boxing fans, go for GGG trilogy, win that fight and move on.

The following boxing match showed that weight categories in boxing are created not just to be. Respect to Canelo for fighting top fighter in light heavy. When Canelo gained - he has lost his main advantage - speed, when Bivol was on his field with speed and power. Conclusion - when two top fighters meet, skill is not enough to win.

He is the champion, he beat Canelo once and he can still make good money if he fights Canelo, so for sure he would go with the rematch. We saw how he dominate the fight and yet Canelo's camp cannot accept a defeat and they want a rematch, so wish granted for them and they should not expect a different result in fight number 2.

Bivol reminds me of the undefeated multi-divisional champion Joe Calzaghe. Big ups to Canelo for stepping up to the challenge. Bivol was calculated and unafraid, he kept his composure throughout the fight and never really let Canelo gain the confidence he needed to let his hands go. It was a great fight, always is when you have two men in there with so much respect for the sport and as talented as they are. As for a rematch, I’d be interested to see what kind of game plan Canelo would come back with, but if i were his camp, I’d probably just take this one on the chin and move on.

Clearly the answer is yes hehehe. Everyone was trusting much of the media hype on Canelo. In his weight division, yes he is the king, however, he is not Pacman. Also, I know I am not always correct in my predictions, however, it would help everyone as a bettor[/b] to be skeptical of any article or news that any mainstream sports media publishes. Many news writers are paid for by someone to spread hype, this very much similar to cryptonews media during ICOs hehehehe.

Yeah, same as what I see in the match, and before it was announced, I was thinking that this could have been a robbery because the score was very closed.


He bit more than he can chew here, he messes with one of the best champion in the Light Heavyweight division, Bivol was obvious different from Kovalev. And I think Canelo will have to go down, he looks tired in the 12th round, first time I have seen him without gas, maybe the added weight was too much for his 5'8 frame.

There are reports that he might exercised his rematch clause that fuck up his trilogy with Canelo.

Bivol though has the option to wait for the winner of Beterviev vs Smith instead of fighting Canelo immediately.

Dmitry Bivol did a good job there frustrating and defeating Canelo Alvarez. He deserves the win. He is a real champion. He was composed all throughout the fight. He was simply 100% focused on the job. I was amazed at how disciplined Bivol was not just during the fight itself but before the fight as well as after the fight.

I was thinking the man was planning to counter Canelo's power and skills with just a 1-2 combo. It was all wrong. Bivol could throw 5, 6, 7 powerful straights.

A big congratulations to those who trusted and bet for Bivol.

That is a real discrimination. Why is US and Israel not condemned for attacking Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, Syeria.
This is tough and hard for Bivol - can put his moral down. But let's see if he can win the match. Looking fwd for an interesting fight.

The underdog is not always behind because they can come up with a smooth strategy such as this one and dominate the fight throughout the rounds. I think the same vibes as to how Pacquiao lost to Ugas last year and this time Bivol use the perfect strategy to exhaust Canelo and patiently threw some punches to secure his win yesterday. The commentator was right, they did underestimate Bivol just before the start of the fight and they were amazed at how he executed his strategy to upsets everyone who thinks that it was just another one-sided fight against him.

I like what the commentator said during the few seconds before the bell rang and already knows what will be the result of the match was:

"DID WE UNDERESTIMATE DMITRY BIVOL?"

Those commentators already have a sneak peek of what will be the result as Canelo is struggling throughout the match. They even pointed out that it was the first time they saw Canelo in fatigue which is not in his vocabulary.

Bivol is patient, doing jabs carefully while having a good defense. He is not aggressive but just patiently waiting for the right timing to land a punch. That made Canelo disappointed and become upset and as a result, he began to lose focus and Bivol takes advantage of it.

This match proves that never depends on how big the name is to determine the winner like what others do here.

It looks like there is a problem with Canelo's conditioning either his camp thinks that it is a walk-in-the-park fight or Canelo belittles Bivol and did not take his conditioning seriously.


Yeah, Bivol gives Canelo a hard time by throwing jabs and effective countering.  I think Canelo relies on his hard punch too much and did not give a variety of punches to make Bivol busy with the defense.  It is one grave mistake since throwing only hard punches and relaxing in between give an opponent an opportunity to implement his own strategy effectively.

this was something unexpected but indeed he deserved the title given the fight he had a while ago.
A pretty absolute number from the three judges and with this a lot of people might lose money in the bet including me because indeed I was standing by Canelo's side but indeed Bivol was very outstanding and it's no wonder he was able to win by a landslide in this fight

I already suspected that this might happen as Bivol is really far from Kovalev in terms of power and advantages, Canelo had an easy time dominating the latter but I didn't really expected that he would be defeated today as I'm only thinking that his would be a close and tough fight but Canelo will still be the winner.

When I watched their fight, Canelo is the one who have been dominated by the underdog and eventually he cannot hide his frustrations after he almost wrestled Bivol in the 11th round. Bivol can really withstand the gravity of punches thrown by Canelo, I admire him for that and he truly deserves the victory.

that's the spirit of a true boxer, he will accept new challenge even if it is out of his comfort zone. now, that he experienced this weight division, he learned his lessons well. but yes, we are still awaiting the trilogy with GGG. some analysts are looking at this event to possibly happen this september. now that canelo has been exposed, he should work out on his weaknesses as this may be GGG's advantage next time.

He might step back down again because of this. Its not his weight class and Bivol obviously has the quicker hands in every exchange. Many lost money I guess because the  bookmarkers favored Canelo. He always is the top dog so this upset is a wakeup call for him. He may be defeated the next fight as he is exposed now.

GGG will have a 3rd rematch. Or is there a chance for Beterbiev vs Alvarez? If it Beterbiev has the speed of Bivol, Canelo will be knocked out.

There will be a rematch because Canelo want one.

https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2022/05/08/62775467ca4741d72e8b4576.html

He has to figure out how to destroy the defense of Bivol as that is his only chance of hurting the champ.
In that fight, Canelo look like the same person who lose on Mayweather on a unanimous decision, and actually Mayweather beat on Bivol to win the fight, he showed his bet slip.


Floyd Mayweather wins $52,000 from bet on Dmitry Bivol to beat Canelo Alvarez

I didn't watch the whole card, I only tuned in for the main event. I don't always watch Canelo, as I don't really particularly like his personality, and I find him to have a bit of a ego, without actually being that entertaining in person. Obviously, a good boxer, and likes to test the waters. However, I honestly thought he was outclassed last night, and the score cards were embarrassing, as it definitely wasn't that close. They had it 115 - 113, right? Impossible, I had Bivol with at the very least eight rounds.

I think the step up for Canelo was a bit too much, and he probably goes back down after this. I do admire his ambition to unify multiple divisions though. I'll always respect when a fighter doesn't just fight anyone that pays the wages, and instead challenges themselves. However, I thought he was thoroughly outclassed on the night, and was left frustrated, and without too many ideas. 

I've watched the whole fight and I've seen 3 factors that cause Canelo to lose on this fight.

1. Impenetrable defense of Bivol - You will see that his punches aren't landing so much and if so, its only a small damage and most of Canelo's punches are landing mostly on his arms which is we know doesn't affect the fighter at all. The arms of Bivol is so huge and long that he can defend most of his body and his face.
2. Discipline and his reach as well as his footwork - Kudos to Bivol for having a good discipline all throughout the fight. From the start, you will see that he is mostly doing and he is using his longer reach efficiently that Canelo can't land punches on him. His footwork is very good as well because you will see that Bivol will make combination and then will fall back then attack again and Canelo can't cope up with it.
3. The Division itself - I think we can conclude that Canelo can't fight in the light heavyweight because of how he fought on this match. Some will say that he won against Kovalev yes but he isn't as strong as he was at that time. Bivol is just too much for Canelo I think so maybe it would be a better decision to go lower but if still wants to fight in light heavyweight then he must do better trainings.

Overall, I think Bivol deserved the win. Its just that how can the 3 judges scored 115-113 in favor of Bivol. I thought that the differences of their scores will be higher seeing how Bivol dominated the whole fight but.. a win is a win still. Congrats to Bivol. Well deserved and he is in the history books already .