Topic: [Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7 - page 9. (Read 3087 times)

I don't think we have seen Canelo as the underdog in fight maybe except for the Floyd Mayweather because he is still relatively unknown that time.

But his records now speak for himself, from 154 lbs to 175 lbs, he has conquered a lot of divisions and beat champions along the way. He is still 4:1 favorite as per bookies right now. Bivol is good but he doesn't have the skills to beat Canelo, but he can give Canelo problems early and then Canelo adjusting.

that's obvious because in this match Bivol is still labeled as an Underdog now even though his abilities are extraordinary but indeed it's still not enough to equalize with Canelo now.
Canelo has now gone through 60 international fights including 57 wins, 2 draws and one loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Bivol is arguably a newcomer when compared to Canelo then it's quite clear that he is very favored by the bookies

Despite such a difference in rates and the fact that Canello is the favorite in this match, nevertheless, the outcome can be unpredictable. At least one serious cut is enough and the favorite can take the position of the loser like a technical KO. Perhaps this is the "beauty" of sports and betting on them, that the outcome always remains unknown until the end of the battle, match, game. Otherwise, with a known result, what would be the point of watching it. It is the unpredictability that is attractive.

Indeed, one mistake and a solid punch landed in your critical area will cause you your entire career. With Canelo's statement, it's more on the confidence that he's building inside him. There are people who will find it arrogant, but in the eyes of his fans and followers, he really does have that strength as he's on his prime now.

It will be tested in each fight that he will be taken. We will see his greatness and how he will win every single fight that being line up for him.

But in fact, judging by the quotes of the bookmakers, it is. Canelo is such a clear favorite that boxing fans are already ready to discuss possible next fights than this "determined" fight. Of course, Bivol is not an easy opponent and not a bag whose probability of winning is zero, but if you look objectively, his chances are more like a lucky punch than winning the fight as a whole.

Yeah, I think it's not arrogance, maybe his haters will said that, but we've seen Canelo just destroying champion at the division mentioned and improved. And he is still at his prime right now and has achieved a lot and could really claim this belt against Bivol at Light Heavy Weight. As far as his preparation goes, he take it by heart, that's why he reached this far. And also the people behind it, like his coach is good and has guided his career to where he is right now.

Yes, bookmakers allow you to bet on Canello with odds of 1.3, while on Bivol as much as 4.7. This suggests that Canelo is a clear favorite and some advantage in physical data does not mean anything. As you rightly noted, the challenger has three times fewer fights, and the champion has already beaten everyone he can, and for him it will be a fight with another average fighter.

Some people may get mad about his statements and think that he is being arrogant but I think it is the truth, the guy is at this prime, he still has all his skills as a boxer but now all of that is paired with a high level of experience, so without a doubt he is at his best, now that does not mean that he is unbeatable, because this is boxing and a single punch is all what is needed not only to change a fight but a whole career, so he still needs to prepare for each and every fight.

This is the important point now for Bivol because he should have realized that indeed responding to ridicule due to his country in conflict is a waste of time because there is Canelo he has to think about because he is definitely in trouble.
Canelo is a very strong fighter and there is nothing wrong with him being the underdog. I also still feel that Bivol will only be a sweetener before the big show with GGG later.

What I can say is that Bivol is not an easy opponent that Canelo can deal with and aside from the fact the he is the champion in this division and more familiar, he can give an entertaining fight that Canelo wanted. the latter chose him for a reason because he is the most challenging boxer in the league now that within his weight reach. Nevertheless, Canelo can always find that weakness on Bivol somewhere in the middle rounds after he is done watching and observing him and that's where Bivol should watch out.

I really agree on this. Trilogy should've happened right after their two controversial fights. Now I hate seeing this old version of GGG moving up in weight for the first time in his career against a prime Canelo. This time I will bet on Canelo stopping GGG. That's why I am hoping for a Bivol upset against Canelo.   

Since Canelo left Oscar dela Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions, he is a free agent and until now wanted it this way. This will allow Canelo to fight on any tv networks and promoters. And since he is a superstar and the biggest draw in boxing, this becomes possible. There were only two best offers for Canelo. Both around a hundred million 2 fight deals.

1. DAZN (Matchroom): Move up to light-heavyweight against WBA champion Bivol. And assuming Canelo wins, he will move back down again to super-middleweight for a GGG trilogy.

2. PBC (Showtime and Fox): First fight will be against the undefeated WBC middleweight champion Jermall Charlo. And if Canelo wins, his next fight will be against another undefeated and ex champion David Benavidez.

If I were to rank these four fighters. I can say Bivol is the most difficult and then the young Benavidez, followed by Charlo. GGG is like the bonus easy money here. Maybe Top Rank (ESPN) who handles light-heavyweight lineal, IBF and WBC champion Artur Beterbiev cannot compete with DAZN and PBC offers. But I still believe that Canelo will really want to unify with Beterbiev next year unless Top Rank and ESPN cannot afford his purse demand. The undefeated Beterbiev will be turning 38 next year though so I think Bivol is really the deadliest at light-heayweight.


 

I cannot even disagree on every word he said because that was all true and actually his confidence speaks for himself not because he is boasting but because his record is outstanding. The only thing that keeps me following Canelo is his humbleness and keeping himself knowledgeable on every fights he got even if he is in the ring, he is still learning without changing his facial reaction. No doubt that he is the 6th boxer to be the undisputed champion, he deserved it!

I also wish to see that, but I think this fight will never going to happen. It must have happened after their second fight, as it was a very controversial fight. That time their skill level of boxing was equal. Now I see that Canelo has advantages over GGG and it wont be fair to have a third fight right now.


Or, Beterbiev is more dangerous opponent (17 wins, all by KO). That is why Canelo has chosen either easy option/money, or uses Bivol as a preparation for Beterbiev. Or he has several fight left in his contract, he will face Bivol, then someone who will be easy to win, end career and transform into promotor

can't blame us, hahaha. Sorry about that mate, it's just that we really like to see a trilogy of GGG vs Canelo and that will not happen if Canelo will lose in this fight, so we just expect and assume that he will win so the anticipated Trilogy will be scheduled soon.

Canelo belive Bivol is a good match up, and he is a champion, so I understand him.

Can we please switch from discussing how cool Canelo is and why there must be a third fight against GGG, to who Dmitry Bivol is ? Everyone here talk like Canelo has already won. Bivol is not a boy for beating. Bivol has successfully defended his WBA lightheavy title 3 times. That is something to take into consideration.

One thing I still dont understand, why Canelo choose Bivol instead of Beterbiev? Beterbiev is one step easier than Smith, who Canelo already beat. Bivol is two steps lower than Smith. Because Bivol is easier opponent ?

We've talk about how great Canelo is, and we are saying that he is still peaking and reaching his prime. And you guys are correct because he himself said that:


https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-nobody-beat-me-right-now-im-my-prime--165766

And with this kind of confidence, yeah, I don't think that anybody can beat Canelo from 160-175 lbs at this point. He is too good for other boxers even for GGG, although we can give credit to GGG for giving Canelo his toughest fight in his career.

Being booed is already usual for an experienced athlete. Bivol can handle that easily and can't even treat it as a distraction. But to the extent that there's an action from the fans that are too much to handle, that's disrespectful. But like I said, people are not dumb to shift or voiced their disagreement with the ongoing conflict to some athletes as they know not all Russians like the idea of the war.

The bottom line, we should not involve the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine in this fight.

We will witnessed this fight as it should be and nothing else will spoiled it.

There should be a trilogy between them so that people will stop the discussion based from the controversial fight they had before as they can prove now as who really is the champion. Though Canelo has already proved his skills and expertise in his boxing career, but it will always be different if people can witness again how he will fight GGG as everything will be fair and no controversies again. I'm rooting when will it be possibly happen.

Should it be understood from your words that  Canelo's chances of winning will be higher? Although Canelo has more fights and victories (there is also 1 defeat), but Bivol's statistics look better (but there are 3 times fewer fights). Also, Bivol has an advantage in height, and hence the length of his arms. To be honest, I can't even imagine a possible winner and I see the only way to find out is to wait for the scheduled fight, which will determine the strongest.

Bivol's problem is that he has a relatively weak knockout punch, so it can be assumed that if Canelo doesn't knock him out, the fight will last the full 12 rounds. It will be quite difficult for Bivol to win on points even if the scoring is absolutely fair, but we know that the challenger must be clearly stronger than the champion in order to be awarded the victory.