[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu - page 12.

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Quote from: Cling18 on November 19, 2021, 09:17:59 AM

Canelo is already creating a good record on the boxing field and I'm surprised that he's going to have another rematch with just a short interval of time.

This isn't a rematch, he never fought Ilunga Makabu yet, actually, he is moving in weight a challenge Ilunga Makabu which is bigger and heavier than him, also he has a high KO ratio based on his record.

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Quote from: Cling18 on November 19, 2021, 09:17:59 AM

I believe that he has a huge potential to be like Manny Pacquiao though he still has a lot to go through. Makabu should be well prepared to face Canelo for him to beat him and it will surely be a tough match for him.

I doubt the will surpassed Manny Pacquiao, experts believe that it takes a decade to see a fighter to surpass his record, so probably not coming from the active boxers now.

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Canelo is already creating a good record on the boxing field and I'm surprised that he's going to have another rematch with just a short interval of time. I believe that he has a huge potential to be like Manny Pacquiao though he still has a lot to go through. Makabu should be well prepared to face Canelo for him to beat him and it will surely be a tough match for him.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 19, 2021, 07:25:51 AM

Makabu poses a legit threat to Canelo's career as the former is much bigger than him and as we all know Canelo seems to have a problem with heavier guys.

This fight will happen in May as the highlight of Cinco de Mayo festivities.

Is Canelo asking too much that he jumps from Super Middleweight to Cruiserweight, almost a heavyweight, I remember DeLa Hoya jumping from welterweight to Middleweight against Hopkins, Dela Hoya's additional weight put too much pressure as he cannot move fast but this is something interesting, Canelo wants to be the greatest Mexican boxer of all time and he cannot achieve it by being a champion in 4 weight category he must conquer territories, he has a great trainer in Reynoso, but the pressure in this weight category is too much.

He can't be the greatest boxer of all time because at his age now, he cannot surpass the achievement of Manny Pacquiao which is the only 8th division world champion. however, he can always try to move up in weight and be a champion in such weight, we just have to believe in him just like him believing himself he could.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 19, 2021, 07:25:51 AM

Makabu poses a legit threat to Canelo's career as the former is much bigger than him and as we all know Canelo seems to have a problem with heavier guys.

This fight will happen in May as the highlight of Cinco de Mayo festivities.

Is Canelo asking too much that he jumps from Super Middleweight to Cruiserweight, almost a heavyweight, I remember DeLa Hoya jumping from welterweight to Middleweight against Hopkins, Dela Hoya's additional weight put too much pressure as he cannot move fast but this is something interesting, Canelo wants to be the greatest Mexican boxer of all time and he cannot achieve it by being a champion in 4 weight category he must conquer territories, he has a great trainer in Reynoso, but the pressure in this weight category is too much.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 19, 2021, 07:25:51 AM

Quote from: mirakal on November 18, 2021, 11:03:53 PM

Great decision by Canelo Alvarez, moving up gives him a better opportunity to prove that he can become a champion in a high division. There's nothing for him to prove since he is already an undisputed champion in his current division.

There is nothing for him in his current division as GGG will likely lose in his fight with Murata this December Grin

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That's not gonna happen because we will see once again a fight between GGG and Canelo.

Quote from: bisdak40 on November 19, 2021, 07:25:51 AM

Makabu poses a legit threat to Canelo's career as the former is much bigger than him and as we all know Canelo seems to have a problem with heavier guys.

This fight will happen in May as the highlight of Cinco de Mayo festivities.

Well, you have a point as I have not seen Canelo fought against a heavier fighter, and if he loses here then most likely the trilogy of Canelo and GGG that we are waiting for might finally happen.

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Quote from: robelneo on November 19, 2021, 07:22:28 AM

Makabu lost to Tony Bellew via knock out but Bellew is a huge fighter with a big punch and that was five years ago, Makabu is a big puncher but lack ring generalship he can easily get hit he loves to go toe to toe if Canelo can take Makabu's punch he has a good chance, but we have to understand adding more than 35 pounds will have a huge effect on your movement and this is something Canelo has to deal fighting in the cruiserweight.

Additional weight, if not being workout correctly, will affect all his movements, especially his speed.
But knowing Canelo and his camp, they are good at preparing and always up to the challenge, for me, it's a wise decision as a fighter.

If he thinks that there's nothing left for him from his current division, moving up and challenge a much bigger one is a nice move for his career.

We don't know what adjustments he needs to do, but the chance of winning is always up for Alvarez. I still see him doing the same strategy, observing and checking if what kind of opponent Makabu is, before engaging and throwing his best attacks.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on November 19, 2021, 02:36:17 AM

What? Seriously we get to see FAT CANELO? He won't get taller, so get fat is the only option Cheesy

Well, to be fair, Canelo only 3cm shorter than Mike Tyson, so in theory he can still compete even in heavyweight if he puts a lot of weight.
I don't think this is a good decision tho, since I don't want to see FAT CANELO.

I smell so much hate here, being fat is not a big deal as long as you are qualified for the weight standard and if you have a strong power to knock out your opponent I guess that's more of the advantage, and many fighters have the same story. We've seen Canelo dominating his previous match, so technically this is a follow up match to continue making his name in boxing, let's wait for their final announcement if this will push through.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 18, 2021, 11:03:53 PM

Great decision by Canelo Alvarez, moving up gives him a better opportunity to prove that he can become a champion in a high division. There's nothing for him to prove since he is already an undisputed champion in his current division.

There is nothing for him in his current division as GGG will likely lose in his fight with Murata this December Grin

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Makabu poses a legit threat to Canelo's career as the former is much bigger than him and as we all know Canelo seems to have a problem with heavier guys.

This fight will happen in May as the highlight of Cinco de Mayo festivities.

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Makabu lost to Tony Bellew via knock out but Bellew is a huge fighter with a big punch and that was five years ago, Makabu is a big puncher but lack ring generalship he can easily get hit he loves to go toe to toe if Canelo can take Makabu's punch he has a good chance, but we have to understand adding more than 35 pounds will have a huge effect on your movement and this is something Canelo has to deal fighting in the cruiserweight.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on November 19, 2021, 03:59:52 AM

Quote from: Botnake on November 19, 2021, 03:35:57 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, if he ever gets heavier, it doesn't mean he has to catch up with the weight required right? He just has to make sure not to go over the weight required.

True, there's no minimum weight, only maximum. In theory, Canelo can even fight Fury in his current weight class (super middleweight) without adding more ~~fat~~ muscle, but it will be a suicide. As force is mass x acceleration, it's easier to put a lot of weight to get much force needed for KO opponents. Yes, Canelo with his speed advantage, can dance and outbox his opponent, but it's like dancing on a sharp blade as one hit can slow him down, and punish him. So Canelo's most rational strategy would be gaining a lot of "pure" muscle (if there's enough time), if he can't do that, we will see FAT CANELO Grin

Only way for Canelo to gain pure muscle to at least reach CW is to used enhancing drugs (PEDS). So I doubt that we will take that route. Maybe he will take the weight room and lift weights to gain mass and muscle.

But yes it could affect his speed, so we are not sure why Canelo decided to move to CW and totally skip LHW (175 lbs), which is far more achievable. And he has one fight as LHW and won.

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We might see a version of Canelo like this: Grin

However, this is a very complicated situation for Canelo, he will be going up again and our body can only take that much of muscles and fats. Maybe he won't be that fast anymore because of all the weight that he is going to carry. The power though might still be there, but this is not his weight class.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 19, 2021, 03:35:57 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, if he ever gets heavier, it doesn't mean he has to catch up with the weight required right? He just has to make sure not to go over the weight required.

True, there's no minimum weight, only maximum. In theory, Canelo can even fight Fury in his current weight class (super middleweight) without adding more ~~fat~~ muscle, but it will be a suicide. As force is mass x acceleration, it's easier to put a lot of weight to get much force needed for KO opponents. Yes, Canelo with his speed advantage, can dance and outbox his opponent, but it's like dancing on a sharp blade as one hit can slow him down, and punish him. So Canelo's most rational strategy would be gaining a lot of "pure" muscle (if there's enough time), if he can't do that, we will see FAT CANELO Grin

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Quote from: Kasabus on November 19, 2021, 02:34:29 AM

Canelo my man, whoever he will face I'll always back him to win.

Last time I won my bet because I trust him, so although he move up in weight, I still think he could win against a bigger fighter as he has the power and is an accurate puncher. Slowly he will destroy his opponent so I'm not worried about him facing a knockout artist.

He will definitely win this one, I mean the move to a higher weight class is going to be influential to his already devastating punching power, in my opinion it's like an evolution for him. Haven't heard of this opponent before since I don't follow boxing avidly but if he is matched with Canelo, there's something to back him up.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 18, 2021, 09:47:05 PM

After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division.

In my own opinion, this is a very very dangerous fight for Canelo I could definitely see Canelo getting stunned and possibly even getting knocked down for the first time in his career by this man. If I'm not mistaking Makabu should probably be the favorite to win given the fact canelo's only 5ft 7.5" and a natural middle weight.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on November 19, 2021, 02:36:17 AM

What? Seriously we get to see FAT CANELO? He won't get taller, so get fat is the only option Cheesy

Well, to be fair, Canelo only 3cm shorter than Mike Tyson, so in theory he can still compete even in heavyweight if he puts a lot of weight.
I don't think this is a good decision tho, since I don't want to see FAT CANELO.

Whatever he looks what's important is he will win. It's a new challenge for him and he is really to take it, besides there's no reason for him to stay because he already become an undisputed fighter. Correct me if I'm wrong, if he ever gets heavier, it doesn't mean he has to catch up with the weight required right? He just has to make sure not to go over the weight required.

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The Mexican-born man, indeed in terms of the career he has obtained in boxing so far, it can be said that Canelo has become a successful boxer at this time, until he gets the call (King of World Boxing), indeed he should have achieved that, considering that Canelo's brother can also be said to be a professional boxer like: Rigoberto.

I remember Canelo at that time at the age of 15 years, already a professional boxer in dealing with his opponents in the ring, Canelo is known as a tough boxer, so naturally he gets praise from his fans, family and relatives.

About boxing between Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu I can't say much, maybe it's not time for me to say they both won and lost in the next ring.

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What? Seriously we get to see FAT CANELO? He won't get taller, so get fat is the only option Cheesy

Well, to be fair, Canelo only 3cm shorter than Mike Tyson, so in theory he can still compete even in heavyweight if he puts a lot of weight.
I don't think this is a good decision tho, since I don't want to see FAT CANELO.

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Canelo my man, whoever he will face I'll always back him to win.

Last time I won my bet because I trust him, so although he move up in weight, I still think he could win against a bigger fighter as he has the power and is an accurate puncher. Slowly he will destroy his opponent so I'm not worried about him facing a knockout artist.

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Quote from: Japinat on November 19, 2021, 12:11:46 AM

I'm surprised that after Canelo becomes an undisputed champion he is planning to have another fight.

This guy does not want to rest, he wants to always continue to be in business and that is by beating fighters, this time still a bigger fighter but not a known name IMO. So maybe he should make it happen, in bigger weights, there's bigger money, so if he could still reign there, that's another big success of Canelo and more praises he'll receive as a fighter.

This guy is really huge, look at is highlights here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF07uecaQvs

This man Canelo Alvarez has an active career as it seems since I think it's only 2 weeks since his last successful fight with Caleb Plant, it seems that the opportunity for him is easily coming. Though it is not impossible because this man is a great fighter from his recent division and of course he is deserving to take a one step ahead, I mean this man manage to skip a light heavyweight division and now he is going to finally face fighters line up in a cruiserweight division like Ilunga Makabu. This is a big breakthrough for his career.

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So Canelo Alvarez moving up from 168 lbs to 190 lbs? That's freaking 22 lbs that he needs to put on his body unless this will be a catch weight?

Just to give others perspective, one of the greatest cruiserweight is Evander Holyfield, before he jumps to heavyweight and fights Mike Tyson.

So imagine how huge Evander during his prime at cruiserweight.

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