[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu - page 5.

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Quote from: SmokerFace on December 06, 2021, 08:01:34 PM

Quote from: goaldigger on November 18, 2021, 10:14:14 PM

As expected with Canelo after winning on his last match, he can easily have the next match so they can continue with the hype.
With the records of Makabu, I can say that he is a great boxer and should be taken seriously by Canelo this could be a big match for him and if he him, for sure next match will settle right away. Any news about the target date of this Match?

Yes, it's quite possible.

But there's always another end to the story if the past winner is not in form or didn't had good rest or medical issues.
The first match of Canelo was easy to predict and Canelo was in form and with more exp compared to their opponent.

I wouldn't call Canelo hype though, I mean he has proven himself time and time again and could be the fighter of the decade by all means. And then him going up from 154 lbs to 190 lbs that's amazing, just like another legendary boxer who just retired, Manny Pacquiao.

So with this another accomplished, either who he face, he will the favourite although this will be a new territory for him.

Nevertheless, we know how great he is, as he can adjust and fight all adversities, for sure he can win this fight and include his name again as one of the greats in recent generation.

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Quote from: chaser15 on December 06, 2021, 07:43:58 PM

It's hard for a boxer to decide whether they will stay or not in their respective decision that's why they are already prepared for what they will face as a new challenge.

Well, if they want to grow as a boxer they should be open for more challenging fight. The more big fights they will get means a bigger opportunities for their career and of course the earnings.

Quote from: chaser15 on December 06, 2021, 07:43:58 PM

As Canelo now finished everything in his former division, it's reasonable to step up now, and defeating Ilunga Makabu will test his new journey.

Its not certain yet if Canelo will face Makabu. Because the latter needs first to fight his mandatory (Mchunu) on January next year. Then the winner on that fight will go against Canelo on May.

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Quote from: goaldigger on November 18, 2021, 10:14:14 PM

As expected with Canelo after winning on his last match, he can easily have the next match so they can continue with the hype.
With the records of Makabu, I can say that he is a great boxer and should be taken seriously by Canelo this could be a big match for him and if he him, for sure next match will settle right away. Any news about the target date of this Match?

Yes, it's quite possible.

But there's always another end to the story if the past winner is not in form or didn't had good rest or medical issues.
The first match of Canelo was easy to predict and Canelo was in form and with more exp compared to their opponent.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 03, 2021, 09:40:54 AM

These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29

These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

Beforehand, Canelo Alvarez knows already and is aware that he will soon take a fight at these boxers. He won't step up on another ladder if he's not sure he can't handle these boxers at the top of his chosen next division.

It's hard for a boxer to decide whether they will stay or not in their respective decision that's why they are already prepared for what they will face as a new challenge. As Canelo now finished everything in his former division, it's reasonable to step up now, and defeating Ilunga Makabu will test his new journey.

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These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29

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These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate.

Before Alvarez camp decide to move up they scout every possibilities that they've got.

The team have that game plan for Alvarez to stand still against those bigger and tougher opponents, having strategy or sets of strategy

to increase the chance of winning is within the training team.

Likewise, they have something that we don't know adjustment that we will witness during the fight.

We already have an idea of what Canelo would do in the fight but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu will use as his strategy to beat Canelo, he is a huge guy with power, so Canelo has to be very careful as if he gets hit, he might get hurt with a power that he never felt before in his current division.

The bookies are still convinced though that Canelo would win, so we cannot change the betting odds but that does not guarantee the outcome is the same of majority's expectation.

that is if makabu will win over mchunu. so makabu should better win this fight in order for him to face canelo. the move to higher weight division is really a challenge for canelo. but the good thing here is that we've seen canelo move up to divisions from 153-175 lbs. so he knows the drill here. it is not the case that he will move from 153 to 200lbs. would be hard if that is the case here. though the risk is still there.
as he needs to wait who will win the makabu v mchunu match, he has ample time to think of possible options how to win on this weight div.

As you have said, he already move to 175 lbs without a problem. And as he stated, he will be going in this fight around the 180 lbs-190 lbs, so there is no weight cutting or such for him, so his body will remain maybe just add few muscles in 6 months.

For the Makabu vs Mchunu fight, I reckon Makabu will be the favourite in this fight although this is a rematch, he already shows in the first first that he is the better fighter. And he will definitely try and go for a win here because a Canelo fight will be his biggest paycheck.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 06, 2021, 04:47:39 PM

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 03, 2021, 09:40:54 AM

These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29

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These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate.

Before Alvarez camp decide to move up they scout every possibilities that they've got.

The team have that game plan for Alvarez to stand still against those bigger and tougher opponents, having strategy or sets of strategy

to increase the chance of winning is within the training team.

Likewise, they have something that we don't know adjustment that we will witness during the fight.

We already have an idea of what Canelo would do in the fight but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu will use as his strategy to beat Canelo, he is a huge guy with power, so Canelo has to be very careful as if he gets hit, he might get hurt with a power that he never felt before in his current division.

The bookies are still convinced though that Canelo would win, so we cannot change the betting odds but that does not guarantee the outcome is the same of majority's expectation.

that is if makabu will win over mchunu. so makabu should better win this fight in order for him to face canelo. the move to higher weight division is really a challenge for canelo. but the good thing here is that we've seen canelo move up to divisions from 153-175 lbs. so he knows the drill here. it is not the case that he will move from 153 to 200lbs. would be hard if that is the case here. though the risk is still there.
as he needs to wait who will win the makabu v mchunu match, he has ample time to think of possible options how to win on this weight div.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on December 06, 2021, 02:58:49 PM

Quote from: aioc on December 06, 2021, 11:30:59 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 03, 2021, 09:40:54 AM

These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29

These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate.

Before Alvarez camp decide to move up they scout every possibilities that they've got.

The team have that game plan for Alvarez to stand still against those bigger and tougher opponents, having strategy or sets of strategy

to increase the chance of winning is within the training team.

Likewise, they have something that we don't know adjustment that we will witness during the fight.

We already have an idea of what Canelo would do in the fight but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu will use as his strategy to beat Canelo, he is a huge guy with power, so Canelo has to be very careful as if he gets hit, he might get hurt with a power that he never felt before in his current division.

The bookies are still convinced though that Canelo would win, so we cannot change the betting odds but that does not guarantee the outcome is the same of majority's expectation.

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Quote from: aioc on December 06, 2021, 11:30:59 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 03, 2021, 09:40:54 AM

These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29

These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate.

Before Alvarez camp decide to move up they scout every possibilities that they've got.

The team have that game plan for Alvarez to stand still against those bigger and tougher opponents, having strategy or sets of strategy

to increase the chance of winning is within the training team.

Likewise, they have something that we don't know adjustment that we will witness during the fight.

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 06, 2021, 02:49:42 PM

Quote from: aioc on December 06, 2021, 11:30:59 AM

That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate.

Slowly but surely, Canelo can adjust to the phase of competition in the Light HeavyWeight. Being an undisputed champion in the Welterweight is already considered as a boxer that can take challenges on a much upper weight class next to Welterweight.

Defeating Makabu is the first step on that. Canelo will surely give his very best in that fight.

Canelo has a chance to prove himself to be a very flexible boxer. If the coaches think that he can handle the Light HeavyWeight division, why not do it .. I'm sure that in addition to more opportunities, more money will also go for it.

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Quote from: aioc on December 06, 2021, 11:30:59 AM

That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate.

Slowly but surely, Canelo can adjust to the phase of competition in the Light HeavyWeight. Being an undisputed champion in the Welterweight is already considered as a boxer that can take challenges on a much upper weight class next to Welterweight.

Defeating Makabu is the first step on that. Canelo will surely give his very best in that fight.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 03, 2021, 09:40:54 AM

These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29

These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate.

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It will be a very rough and hard training for Canelo because aside from boxing training about Makabu's offensive and defensive strategy, he will then go to weight lifting to gain some weights because he's not suit on the CW now. We really can't know for sure who has the upper hand on this fight because Makabu is om a 9th time win streak from 2017 up until now and Canelo has been known also for his mindest tactics and power punches. We'll see about this next year, soon.

Definitely, the training would be different as it's not his division, he is trying to face a bigger challenge to test his capability. Canelo will become a hall of Famer already, and he is not afraid of losing that's why I admire what he did. I had some little doubt on him when he did not give GGG a rematch, but this action going up is tougher than a rematch with GGG.

I do understand Canelo's decision that he didn't gave GGG a chance to have a rematch, because if that's me, why would I have to? GGG vs Canelo's fight was a draw, that's why there's a rematch made a year after and Canelo did win that particular match. It's like, he's done with GGG, there's nothing to prove anymore because Canelo's vision is to defeat boxers that have been reigning for a long time now, just like this coming fight, Saul Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu. I'm pretty excited to see this two fellas fight.

It did not result in a draw, the last fight was won by Canelo Alvarez via Majority decision, so there's nothing to prove anymore, it's only up to him if he will give a rematch or not. You can watch the highlights of the fight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaMOJ577ABA).

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It will be a very rough and hard training for Canelo because aside from boxing training about Makabu's offensive and defensive strategy, he will then go to weight lifting to gain some weights because he's not suit on the CW now. We really can't know for sure who has the upper hand on this fight because Makabu is om a 9th time win streak from 2017 up until now and Canelo has been known also for his mindest tactics and power punches. We'll see about this next year, soon.

Definitely, the training would be different as it's not his division, he is trying to face a bigger challenge to test his capability. Canelo will become a hall of Famer already, and he is not afraid of losing that's why I admire what he did. I had some little doubt on him when he did not give GGG a rematch, but this action going up is tougher than a rematch with GGG.

I do understand Canelo's decision that he didn't gave GGG a chance to have a rematch, because if that's me, why would I have to? GGG vs Canelo's fight was a draw, that's why there's a rematch made a year after and Canelo did win that particular match. It's like, he's done with GGG, there's nothing to prove anymore because Canelo's vision is to defeat boxers that have been reigning for a long time now, just like this coming fight, Saul Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu. I'm pretty excited to see this two fellas fight.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on December 05, 2021, 10:25:12 PM

Quote from: Viscore on December 05, 2021, 05:35:19 PM

I would not say that Canelo will dominate, too early for that, he is only trying to fight his first attempt in this heavier division, so let's see first how he will perform as heavy fighters are not easy to knockdown, and usually, the one that is going up will struggle that's why only a few boxers succeeded in doing that.

Yep, even Makabu isn't really known boxer but consider he has a belt and heavy fighter, we shouldn't underestimating him. It's true Alvarez is the best boxer, but it's only on middle weight. Heavy boxer has a though chin and hard to knocked, but they're lack of speed which Alvarez very good in this. Alvarez should play more defensive and do counter punch rather than aggressive.

He has the belt for nothing, the trainings that he has is also need to consider, it's a different weight division and the fighter here is more solid and ready to go blow by blow, speed wise Canelo may have it but due to adding weight might possible that adjustment is not that fast for him.

Going to wait for the fight and see if there's a good advantage for him or the decision to move up is not yet ripe for him to grab. Roll Eyes

Good luck to everyone who will take side to Canelo to win this fight. Wink

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Quote from: Rufsilf on December 06, 2021, 02:52:02 AM

It will be a very rough and hard training for Canelo because aside from boxing training about Makabu's offensive and defensive strategy, he will then go to weight lifting to gain some weights because he's not suit on the CW now. We really can't know for sure who has the upper hand on this fight because Makabu is om a 9th time win streak from 2017 up until now and Canelo has been known also for his mindest tactics and power punches. We'll see about this next year, soon.

Definitely, the training would be different as it's not his division, he is trying to face a bigger challenge to test his capability. Canelo will become a hall of Famer already, and he is not afraid of losing that's why I admire what he did. I had some little doubt on him when he did not give GGG a rematch, but this action going up is tougher than a rematch with GGG.

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WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.

True, Sulaiman loves Canelo and being Mexican and holding a WBC belt, Canelo has his perks and can choose whoever he fights under this organisation.

And since Canelo is the cash cow now, every boxer is after him, like Makabu and Mchunu who will fight first, sort of eliminator but the funny thing is that they belt is on the line. Anyway, I hope Makabu wins so he will get his biggest paycheck and give Canelo a good fight at cruiserweight.

this is a very good opportunity for Canelo to prepare more for this upcoming fight. he should use the waiting time for his rigid preparation because one should not take for granted about the capability of either makabu or mchunu. whoever wins on their match. they have certain advantage as they are fighting on their comfort zone.
so if in case canelo will win on this weight division, he will be more bankable as a boxer here.

It will be a very rough and hard training for Canelo because aside from boxing training about Makabu's offensive and defensive strategy, he will then go to weight lifting to gain some weights because he's not suit on the CW now. We really can't know for sure who has the upper hand on this fight because Makabu is om a 9th time win streak from 2017 up until now and Canelo has been known also for his mindest tactics and power punches. We'll see about this next year, soon.

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Quote from: Viscore on December 05, 2021, 05:35:19 PM

I would not say that Canelo will dominate, too early for that, he is only trying to fight his first attempt in this heavier division, so let's see first how he will perform as heavy fighters are not easy to knockdown, and usually, the one that is going up will struggle that's why only a few boxers succeeded in doing that.

Yep, even Makabu isn't really known boxer but consider he has a belt and heavy fighter, we shouldn't underestimating him. It's true Alvarez is the best boxer, but it's only on middle weight. Heavy boxer has a though chin and hard to knocked, but they're lack of speed which Alvarez very good in this. Alvarez should play more defensive and do counter punch rather than aggressive.

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Quote from: Silberman on December 05, 2021, 03:11:37 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 03, 2021, 09:40:54 AM

These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29

These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

It is going to be very interesting what happens in the cruiserweight category now that Canelo is in it, most of those champions are going to want to have the chance to fight him so they can earn a lot of money but they could be giving away their belts in the process, if Canelo dominates this division as well all what will be left for him will be try to fight in the heavyweight division, even if not long ago Canelo insisted that was not part of his plans.

Yes, that is the Canelo sweepstakes, just like Pacquiao before, even if he still past his prime, fighters want to face him because of the huge payment they are going to check.

To be honest, it was only Breidis who is more familiar to me in the Crusierweight division, I also have to check the other champions when Canelo decided to move up in this division and yes, those are big and powerful dude that Canelo has to face to chase greatness. If he decided to stay here, it will be a different story.

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Quote from: Silberman on December 05, 2021, 03:11:37 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 03, 2021, 09:40:54 AM

These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29

These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

It is going to be very interesting what happens in the cruiserweight category now that Canelo is in it, most of those champions are going to want to have the chance to fight him so they can earn a lot of money but they could be giving away their belts in the process, if Canelo dominates this division as well all what will be left for him will be try to fight in the heavyweight division, even if not long ago Canelo insisted that was not part of his plans.

I would not say that Canelo will dominate, too early for that, he is only trying to fight his first attempt in this heavier division, so let's see first how he will perform as heavy fighters are not easy to knockdown, and usually, the one that is going up will struggle that's why only a few boxers succeeded in doing that.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 03, 2021, 09:40:54 AM

These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29

These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

It is going to be very interesting what happens in the cruiserweight category now that Canelo is in it, most of those champions are going to want to have the chance to fight him so they can earn a lot of money but they could be giving away their belts in the process, if Canelo dominates this division as well all what will be left for him will be try to fight in the heavyweight division, even if not long ago Canelo insisted that was not part of his plans.

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