[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu - page 8.

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Quote from: Alanaz on November 26, 2021, 04:29:17 AM

he is a pretty good boxer and can adjust quickly especially when he is in the ring I feel canelo is a different person.
but indeed as you said maybe the macabu is not fast enough but the shot is very crazy and even I remember when he managed to beat Kudryashov some time ago at that time the macabu shot was so terrible especially the hook he did.
it's not impossible that if canelo is not careful he will be made like Kudryashov by ending up battered at the hands of Makabu

That could possibly happen if the boxer is not careful, there's no exemption even Canelo. However, knowing Canelo, he is not a type of boxer who is careless, he is slow starter and he always make sure he will win in the end, so he will likely win here but I doubt he can win by KO.

I admit he is very smart in every way when he is in the ring but Makabu doesn't seem too willing to compromise with his punches.
Canelo needs to keep an eye on the macabu maneuver especially for his hard hook.
I think he will be able to do that because he is now so confident in his abilities and record.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 27, 2021, 04:41:26 AM

And I think Canelo said that he can fight 2-3 every year, so 4-6 months between fights is ample for him as he is getting used to it. Although he will moving up in weight class, there will be no adjusted for him. He might be walking right now above 170 lbs and then goes on training and gain 10 lbs more because that's what his target in this fight, at least 180 lbs, to absorb the punches of a legitimate cruiserweight.

As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on November 26, 2021, 05:47:32 PM

When i first read this news or heard about the rumor i thought at first that this next fight comes pretty quick because canelo just have fought a few weeks ago and you should never have too many fights in a short period of time. Now i have read that the fight is planned to happen around May or June 2022 and then it is more than enough time between canelos last fight and the fight against Makabu. Going up 2 weight classes is always dangerous though and i really hope that canelo is still fast enough to show a good performance and a spectacular fight. If he manages to win this one then he really has achieved something great.

As usual for every boxer, it should be at least 4-6 months after their next fight.

Since Canelo is moving up weight class, 6 months of training is efficient.

Canelo wants to achieve another milestone in his career. Defeating Makabu is one step toward another undisputed goal on his chosen weight class.

And I think Canelo said that he can fight 2-3 every year, so 4-6 months between fights is ample for him as he is getting used to it. Although he will moving up in weight class, there will be no adjusted for him. He might be walking right now above 170 lbs and then goes on training and gain 10 lbs more because that's what his target in this fight, at least 180 lbs, to absorb the punches of a legitimate cruiserweight.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on November 26, 2021, 05:47:32 PM

When i first read this news or heard about the rumor i thought at first that this next fight comes pretty quick because canelo just have fought a few weeks ago and you should never have too many fights in a short period of time. Now i have read that the fight is planned to happen around May or June 2022 and then it is more than enough time between canelos last fight and the fight against Makabu. Going up 2 weight classes is always dangerous though and i really hope that canelo is still fast enough to show a good performance and a spectacular fight. If he manages to win this one then he really has achieved something great.

As usual for every boxer, it should be at least 4-6 months after their next fight.

Since Canelo is moving up weight class, 6 months of training is efficient.

Canelo wants to achieve another milestone in his career. Defeating Makabu is one step toward another undisputed goal on his chosen weight class.

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After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division.

When i first read this news or heard about the rumor i thought at first that this next fight comes pretty quick because canelo just have fought a few weeks ago and you should never have too many fights in a short period of time. Now i have read that the fight is planned to happen around May or June 2022 and then it is more than enough time between canelos last fight and the fight against Makabu. Going up 2 weight classes is always dangerous though and i really hope that canelo is still fast enough to show a good performance and a spectacular fight. If he manages to win this one then he really has achieved something great.

A good achievement and another start for his name to rally in this new division, Canelo got a good and established name from his last weight after beating Plant, now that he's moving up, good preparation will give him the chance of beating Makabu, though you are right 2 more additional weight is not something that you can easily adopt.

But more than 6 months is fair enough to work with everything. He can start gaining weight now and have extra workout to make sure that
he's ready to compete when the date arrives.

Skills and talent wise, he has both just need to be experience this new weight division and fit himself to proceed to this new journey.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 18, 2021, 09:47:05 PM

After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division.

When i first read this news or heard about the rumor i thought at first that this next fight comes pretty quick because canelo just have fought a few weeks ago and you should never have too many fights in a short period of time. Now i have read that the fight is planned to happen around May or June 2022 and then it is more than enough time between canelos last fight and the fight against Makabu. Going up 2 weight classes is always dangerous though and i really hope that canelo is still fast enough to show a good performance and a spectacular fight. If he manages to win this one then he really has achieved something great.

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Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out.

Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight

You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this really happened, then, who knows!?

Who knows but maybe that words of Makabu might be true because he's capable of eleminating opponents from his lethal punches and his record can really back him up.
That's why even if it's just 6months preparation for Canelo, he should train twice as possible because he's entering another division that aren't his mastery field.

The transition to a heavier division is always difficult, after all he is considered to be a very heavy puncher in his current division but at the heavier divisions this may not be true, so supposing this is the case then he will need to adjust his style and increase the rate at which he throws punches, which will leave him more open for attacks and we will see if his chin can take the increased strength of his opponents, all in all this seems like a good challenge for Canelo and it is going to be very interesting to see if Canelo can overcome it.

He has to have a speed advantage in order to win against a natural heavier boxer. AFAIK, Canelo does not have that speed, he is more reliant on his power and his boxing skills, so there's really a chance that he will not succeed, however, based on the betting odds, we can clearly determine that people are expecting him to win against Makabu who is an unknown fighter for most of us.

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Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out.

Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight

You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this really happened, then, who knows!?

Who knows but maybe that words of Makabu might be true because he's capable of eleminating opponents from his lethal punches and his record can really back him up.
That's why even if it's just 6months preparation for Canelo, he should train twice as possible because he's entering another division that aren't his mastery field.

The transition to a heavier division is always difficult, after all he is considered to be a very heavy puncher in his current division but at the heavier divisions this may not be true, so supposing this is the case then he will need to adjust his style and increase the rate at which he throws punches, which will leave him more open for attacks and we will see if his chin can take the increased strength of his opponents, all in all this seems like a good challenge for Canelo and it is going to be very interesting to see if Canelo can overcome it.

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Quote from: Alanaz on November 26, 2021, 04:29:17 AM

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even so now is a big challenge for canelo because indeed he has just stepped on a heavier class than before even though he is indeed very strong but this is a new class and he may have to adjust his strategy again in this match.
On the other hand, Makabu is also very big and actually Canelo's speed is quite superior because if I saw the previous Makabu match he was a boxer who was not fast enough and Canelo had to take advantage of this well

Might not be fast but punches were strong which he should really be that not too confident when it comes to his defenses or in overall he shouldnt really be that too careless.

Stepping on heavier division does really need adjustment because speed is one of the most common factor that would be mainly affect yet you had become heavier
but well for something like Canelo then it wouldnt really be that much of an issue.

he is a pretty good boxer and can adjust quickly especially when he is in the ring I feel canelo is a different person.
but indeed as you said maybe the macabu is not fast enough but the shot is very crazy and even I remember when he managed to beat Kudryashov some time ago at that time the macabu shot was so terrible especially the hook he did.
it's not impossible that if canelo is not careful he will be made like Kudryashov by ending up battered at the hands of Makabu

That could possibly happen if the boxer is not careful, there's no exemption even Canelo. However, knowing Canelo, he is not a type of boxer who is careless, he is slow starter and he always make sure he will win in the end, so he will likely win here but I doubt he can win by KO.

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Quote from: Mahanton on November 24, 2021, 07:53:43 PM

Quote from: Alanaz on November 24, 2021, 02:26:12 PM

even so now is a big challenge for canelo because indeed he has just stepped on a heavier class than before even though he is indeed very strong but this is a new class and he may have to adjust his strategy again in this match.
On the other hand, Makabu is also very big and actually Canelo's speed is quite superior because if I saw the previous Makabu match he was a boxer who was not fast enough and Canelo had to take advantage of this well

Might not be fast but punches were strong which he should really be that not too confident when it comes to his defenses or in overall he shouldnt really be that too careless.

Stepping on heavier division does really need adjustment because speed is one of the most common factor that would be mainly affect yet you had become heavier
but well for something like Canelo then it wouldnt really be that much of an issue.

he is a pretty good boxer and can adjust quickly especially when he is in the ring I feel canelo is a different person.
but indeed as you said maybe the macabu is not fast enough but the shot is very crazy and even I remember when he managed to beat Kudryashov some time ago at that time the macabu shot was so terrible especially the hook he did.
it's not impossible that if canelo is not careful he will be made like Kudryashov by ending up battered at the hands of Makabu

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Quote from: Finestream on November 25, 2021, 03:34:43 AM

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Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out.

Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight

You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this really happened, then, who knows!?

Who knows but maybe that words of Makabu might be true because he's capable of eleminating opponents from his lethal punches and his record can really back him up.
That's why even if it's just 6months preparation for Canelo, he should train twice as possible because he's entering another division that aren't his mastery field.

6 months preparation is very Little if you are changing division Makabu is having a great record

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Boxing record
Total fights   30
Wins   28
Wins by KO   25
Losses   2

But of course not enough for Alvarez record

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Boxing record
Total fights   60
Wins   57
Wins by KO   39
Losses   1
Draws   2

But both fighter has a powerful punches and a Knockout Punchers so this is a ver exciting fight that we must not Missed watching and betting .

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Quote from: mu_enrico on November 24, 2021, 11:56:45 AM

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Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out.

Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight

You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this really happened, then, who knows!?

Who knows but maybe that words of Makabu might be true because he's capable of eleminating opponents from his lethal punches and his record can really back him up.
That's why even if it's just 6months preparation for Canelo, he should train twice as possible because he's entering another division that aren't his mastery field.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 18, 2021, 09:47:05 PM

After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division.

The last boxer that beats Manny Pacquiao is also Not know as how Manny was but yet defeated the world champion.

So it does not matter how popular Canelo is the important part is How he will beat Makabu , though yeah according to their stats Alvarez is really in favor for this bout .

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Quote from: romero121 on November 24, 2021, 07:59:26 PM

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Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out.

Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight

You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this really happened, then, who knows!?

“I believe in my power and my skills" says Makabu and this is going be a big challenge. He himself have prepared for it. He has understood that the match is 50-50 challenge which shows he has well studied about Canelo. He mentioned this fight is going to be a history. He consider it the most difficult challenge of his carrier. His confidence keeps boosting.

Well that's what everyone says before they fight Canelo, that they are going to be an upset and that the fight is 50-50. But then again, Canelo put up a show and either TKO/KO his opponents very easily.

I know that Canelo will be stepping up the plate here with a huge jump in weight class, but I know that his team knows what they are up to against Makabu and the chances of Canelo to win is very big. Maybe a couple of rounds and then Canelo will adjust.

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Quote from: romero121 on November 24, 2021, 07:59:26 PM

“I believe in my power and my skills" says Makabu and this is going be a big challenge. He himself have prepared for it. He has understood that the match is 50-50 challenge which shows he has well studied about Canelo. He mentioned this fight is going to be a history. He consider it the most difficult challenge of his carrier. His confidence keeps boosting.

The good thing about Makabu is that he knows that Canelo is not just a small fighter that he must take easily to fight on, he acknowledge his skills and ability and he also acknowledge the capabilities of Canelo and accept that their upcoming fight will be one of his difficult fight, he do also not bragging it and not talking shit to his opponent. I will definitely going to watch their fight but in case the odds will be available I think I will going to bet with Makabu instead.

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Quote from: romero121 on November 20, 2021, 05:39:22 PM

Quote from: harizen on November 20, 2021, 08:59:24 AM

Honestly, to any boxer, moving up on weight class is more efficient compare to going down. It's hard to reach much lower weight requirements and that results in a dehydrated body. Canelo has a good decision to step up since no room for any achievements now on his current stage as he already claimed the title "undisputed" champion.

But don't be deceived by Ilunga Makabu from being a not-known or unpopular boxer to others here. I'm sure he will give a Canelo a difficult match.

This match is going to be a tuff one for Canelo, because he's moving from a low weight category to the next level. Makabu is already on the same weight category. This gives Makabu an added advantage on the match. Being an undisputed one will try to keep the winning momentum continue. Let's wait for the day.

On point. Canelo needs to boost weight and he might not comfortable with it at first while Makabu will just maintain his usual weight. In other words, no need for the latter to work hard for the catch-up weight class before the weigh-in.

However, we have to take note that Canelo, when he's really decided, can always keep up the phase. An effort to increase his weight while maintaining his speed and reflexes should not be a problem to the likes of him.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on November 24, 2021, 11:56:45 AM

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Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out.

Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight

You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this really happened, then, who knows!?

“I believe in my power and my skills" says Makabu and this is going be a big challenge. He himself have prepared for it. He has understood that the match is 50-50 challenge which shows he has well studied about Canelo. He mentioned this fight is going to be a history. He consider it the most difficult challenge of his carrier. His confidence keeps boosting.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 23, 2021, 10:37:58 PM

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But maybe they have their own reasons like Ilunga Makabu is a weaker champion that's why they chooses him to be his next opponent.

I guess Ilunga Makabu is the easier target here. And there is also the reward of being a champion in 5 different weight classes. Of course it is a challenge to Canelo facing an opponent of a different weight class which has a weight limit of up to 200 pounds. That's a lot of weight. But we have seen Canelo fought from 154 pounds all the way to 175 pounds. I think if he was able to handle Kovalev and even knocked him out at 175 there is really no doubt he could take Ilunga Makabu and even knock him out as well. Canelo has got the power.

even so now is a big challenge for canelo because indeed he has just stepped on a heavier class than before even though he is indeed very strong but this is a new class and he may have to adjust his strategy again in this match.
On the other hand, Makabu is also very big and actually Canelo's speed is quite superior because if I saw the previous Makabu match he was a boxer who was not fast enough and Canelo had to take advantage of this well

Might not be fast but punches were strong which he should really be that not too confident when it comes to his defenses or in overall he shouldnt really be that too careless.

Stepping on heavier division does really need adjustment because speed is one of the most common factor that would be mainly affect yet you had become heavier
but well for something like Canelo then it wouldnt really be that much of an issue.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 23, 2021, 10:37:58 PM

Quote from: Dave1 on November 23, 2021, 09:02:37 PM

But maybe they have their own reasons like Ilunga Makabu is a weaker champion that's why they chooses him to be his next opponent.

I guess Ilunga Makabu is the easier target here. And there is also the reward of being a champion in 5 different weight classes. Of course it is a challenge to Canelo facing an opponent of a different weight class which has a weight limit of up to 200 pounds. That's a lot of weight. But we have seen Canelo fought from 154 pounds all the way to 175 pounds. I think if he was able to handle Kovalev and even knocked him out at 175 there is really no doubt he could take Ilunga Makabu and even knock him out as well. Canelo has got the power.

even so now is a big challenge for canelo because indeed he has just stepped on a heavier class than before even though he is indeed very strong but this is a new class and he may have to adjust his strategy again in this match.
On the other hand, Makabu is also very big and actually Canelo's speed is quite superior because if I saw the previous Makabu match he was a boxer who was not fast enough and Canelo had to take advantage of this well

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Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out.

Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight

You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this really happened, then, who knows!?

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