[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu - page 9.

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Quote from: Questat on November 24, 2021, 04:49:56 AM

Of course, that's why Canelo is a heavy favorite because his opponent is not a popular fighter, however, if you look at his boxing record, you gotta respect the guy because he really has the power, and since this is a new division, we should not be too confident that Canelo would still dominate.

Makabu is a popular fighter but since everyone is not a boxing enthusiast here and only those obvious popular boxers are being discussed here, only a few know his name. But you are right, Canelo is the one entering a new stage and his opponent is already used to fighting on that weight level so we should never underestimate Makabu on that part. Now to Makabu, he should not take that as an advantage as even Canelo is new to the weight class, he has already the talent and skill to fight any fighter at that weight class.

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And Canelo will be making another history for Mexican boxing here if he beat Makabu and take his cruserweight title.

Then he already signed his name in boxing hall of fame when he beat Kovalev and won light heavy WBO title (which, if not mistaken, he instantly resigned and made vacant lol).

I hope that Canelo will stay in cruiserweight, or drop to light heavy. Because there is nothing left for him to do in middleweight. He should made all this titles in middleweight vacant, get belts in more heavy division, and then get back to middleweight and beat everyone again.

LightHW might be a good weight class for Canelo to settle, and there is a good champion in Bivol, and I think Canelo can beat him as well.

So maybe after the CW campaign and he won the belt, maybe he will go down and chase and clean up the LightHW for good, similar to what he did in MW and super MW and then retire with only the Floyd lost on his career.

I think that Canelo should move to lightheavy and stay there. He is able to beat if not everyone, then most of boxers in this division.
Being a champ in cruiserweight might be a bit difficult for him. Previously undisputed champion in cruiserweight was Olexander Usyk. Now one of most dangerous fighters there is Mairis Briedis (TBRB, IBF, Rings champion). He is a copy of Usyk. He might be a hard nut to crack; he might even lose. So lightheavy is the best for future Canelo.

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After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division.

Makabu is not well known in boxing world but his record shows that he is not an easy opponent. But does he have a previous opponent that he won through KO which is familiar to anyone? If not, then this fight is his big break to become popular.

On the other side, no doubt Canelo would be the favorite here especially after his recent fight to Plant. Once again he proved himself as a legend.

Nope, Makabu's previous opponents doesn't ring a bell to my ears either. I'm also surprised that I don't know this Makabu in particular given that his records and KO rate are impressive. His last match was on December 2020 against Durodola whos records are 34-8.
Such a very short notice for Canelo to prepare against this powerful and undefeated opponent but I know Canelo will be able to stand this fight knowing his skills and brilliant mind.

I guess everyone would agree that Makabu name doesn't ring a bell to the majority of us. I mean the weight class the most everyone followed is the 147 lbs and above that, we don't know that much except maybe GGG in 160 and Canelo in 168 and then the HW champions.

I think Canelo though has enough time to prepare for this fight and he doesn't need to weight drain himself to make the CW limit. And he can only go 180 lbs and still consider a CW. He can make 168 lbs easy because that's what his body is used to, but he can still go and build considerable muscle to reach the CW.

Of course, that's why Canelo is a heavy favorite because his opponent is not a popular fighter, however, if you look at his boxing record, you gotta respect the guy because he really has the power, and since this is a new division, we should not be too confident that Canelo would still dominate.

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Quote from: Rufsilf on November 24, 2021, 01:23:16 AM

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 18, 2021, 08:47:05 PM

After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division.

Makabu is not well known in boxing world but his record shows that he is not an easy opponent. But does he have a previous opponent that he won through KO which is familiar to anyone? If not, then this fight is his big break to become popular.

On the other side, no doubt Canelo would be the favorite here especially after his recent fight to Plant. Once again he proved himself as a legend.

Nope, Makabu's previous opponents doesn't ring a bell to my ears either. I'm also surprised that I don't know this Makabu in particular given that his records and KO rate are impressive. His last match was on December 2020 against Durodola whos records are 34-8.
Such a very short notice for Canelo to prepare against this powerful and undefeated opponent but I know Canelo will be able to stand this fight knowing his skills and brilliant mind.

I guess everyone would agree that Makabu name doesn't ring a bell to the majority of us. I mean the weight class the most everyone followed is the 147 lbs and above that, we don't know that much except maybe GGG in 160 and Canelo in 168 and then the HW champions.

I think Canelo though has enough time to prepare for this fight and he doesn't need to weight drain himself to make the CW limit. And he can only go 180 lbs and still consider a CW. He can make 168 lbs easy because that's what his body is used to, but he can still go and build considerable muscle to reach the CW.

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Quote from: lienfaye on November 23, 2021, 10:43:25 PM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 18, 2021, 08:47:05 PM

After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division.

Makabu is not well known in boxing world but his record shows that he is not an easy opponent. But does he have a previous opponent that he won through KO which is familiar to anyone? If not, then this fight is his big break to become popular.

On the other side, no doubt Canelo would be the favorite here especially after his recent fight to Plant. Once again he proved himself as a legend.

Nope, Makabu's previous opponents doesn't ring a bell to my ears either. I'm also surprised that I don't know this Makabu in particular given that his records and KO rate are impressive. His last match was on December 2020 against Durodola whos records are 34-8.
Such a very short notice for Canelo to prepare against this powerful and undefeated opponent but I know Canelo will be able to stand this fight knowing his skills and brilliant mind.

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Undisputed super middleweight champion Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez is not worried about the size he needs to make up ahead of his cruiserweight fight in 2022.
The 168lb Mexican star is set to fight WBC champion Ilunga Makabu in May 2022, where there is a top weight limit of 200lbs.

Source: https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/amp/boxing/saul-canelo-alvarez-plans-to-fight-ilunga-makabu-at-180lb-not-worried-by-difference/yehtj8suzeox19nzggb76z94v

After Canelo have won against Caleb, he's now in for a much bigger match against the undefeated Congolese fighter who holds the title in cruiserweight. This leaves Canelo for about 6 months to prepare, and note that Makabu is known to have a lethal punch with a knockout percentage of 95%.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 18, 2021, 08:47:05 PM

After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division.

Makabu is not well known in boxing world but his record shows that he is not an easy opponent. But does he have a previous opponent that he won through KO which is familiar to anyone? If not, then this fight is his big break to become popular.

On the other side, no doubt Canelo would be the favorite here especially after his recent fight to Plant. Once again he proved himself as a legend.

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Quote from: Dave1 on November 23, 2021, 08:02:37 PM

But maybe they have their own reasons like Ilunga Makabu is a weaker champion that's why they chooses him to be his next opponent.

I guess Ilunga Makabu is the easier target here. And there is also the reward of being a champion in 5 different weight classes. Of course it is a challenge to Canelo facing an opponent of a different weight class which has a weight limit of up to 200 pounds. That's a lot of weight. But we have seen Canelo fought from 154 pounds all the way to 175 pounds. I think if he was able to handle Kovalev and even knocked him out at 175 there is really no doubt he could take Ilunga Makabu and even knock him out as well. Canelo has got the power.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on November 23, 2021, 07:02:42 PM

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I believe in Canelo, there's nothing I would doubt on him but he is not in his division, he will be facing a heavy fighter with a great KO power. Of course, the majority of the fans would go for Canelo as he is the popular boxer, but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu can do against Canelo which is smaller than him.

He might have a knock out power but Canelo is never a punching bag Problem of all those he fought and beaten is how they can connect to a fighter who knows how to roll and make you miss and counter punch or attack at the same time, Mukabu just announced that he will knock out Canelo, that's what Canelo's opponent has said, Mukabu belt will just become additional to Canelo's legacy.

Although it is not Canelo's category, I think that Canelo must go to the next level and the way to do it is by beating Ilunga, I do not question Ilunga's ability to win fights, give knockouts, but Canelo is really a fighting machine. give punches, and his knockouts are not something negligible, I think that if Canelo is going to take this step he must show what he is made of, it is time to show his full potential, that now if those who did not believe in him start doing it and give him the position he always wants to have.
Canelo's last fight was a display of great technique and great skill that the boxer has, not only did it show how much control he has in his fight but when he decided to end the fight, this is something that he cannot forget any boxer even if he is not in his category.

Yes, he really need to go up in weight classes as there are no more challenges for him in the middleweight division as he beat all the champions in that division. It's that that he skip the light heavyweight and go directly to a more heavier weight class.

But maybe they have their own reasons like Ilunga Makabu is a weaker champion that's why they chooses him to be his next opponent.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on November 21, 2021, 08:43:31 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on November 21, 2021, 07:24:28 AM

I believe in Canelo, there's nothing I would doubt on him but he is not in his division, he will be facing a heavy fighter with a great KO power. Of course, the majority of the fans would go for Canelo as he is the popular boxer, but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu can do against Canelo which is smaller than him.

He might have a knock out power but Canelo is never a punching bag Problem of all those he fought and beaten is how they can connect to a fighter who knows how to roll and make you miss and counter punch or attack at the same time, Mukabu just announced that he will knock out Canelo, that's what Canelo's opponent has said, Mukabu belt will just become additional to Canelo's legacy.

Although it is not Canelo's category, I think that Canelo must go to the next level and the way to do it is by beating Ilunga, I do not question Ilunga's ability to win fights, give knockouts, but Canelo is really a fighting machine. give punches, and his knockouts are not something negligible, I think that if Canelo is going to take this step he must show what he is made of, it is time to show his full potential, that now if those who did not believe in him start doing it and give him the position he always wants to have.
Canelo's last fight was a display of great technique and great skill that the boxer has, not only did it show how much control he has in his fight but when he decided to end the fight, this is something that he cannot forget any boxer even if he is not in his category.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 23, 2021, 06:29:30 AM

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And Canelo will be making another history for Mexican boxing here if he beat Makabu and take his cruserweight title.

Then he already signed his name in boxing hall of fame when he beat Kovalev and won light heavy WBO title (which, if not mistaken, he instantly resigned and made vacant lol).

I hope that Canelo will stay in cruiserweight, or drop to light heavy. Because there is nothing left for him to do in middleweight. He should made all this titles in middleweight vacant, get belts in more heavy division, and then get back to middleweight and beat everyone again.

LightHW might be a good weight class for Canelo to settle, and there is a good champion in Bivol, and I think Canelo can beat him as well.

So maybe after the CW campaign and he won the belt, maybe he will go down and chase and clean up the LightHW for good, similar to what he did in MW and super MW and then retire with only the Floyd lost on his career.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 20, 2021, 03:49:27 PM

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I thought that he will eventually move up a division but I thought that at first he could defend his titles once or twice before moving up, this proves the guy is ambitious and it is not afraid to make bold moves, it is going to be interesting to see if he can adjust to the division, after all the heavier the boxer the heavier the punches, so while in his division he was known as someone with a lot of punching power this is not going to necessarily remain true the higher he moves up.

He already made history being an undisputed champion in his current division, so there's no reason to stay and still continue defending his title. He is trying to challenge himself as most of his wins are easy wins, against a heavier and bigger opponent he might struggle, but we can't make a conclusion unless we see him fight.

You are right but that is precisely why I thought he could remain in the division for longer as defending his titles against some of the boxers he has beaten or a new challenger would be easy money for him, however this tells me the guy really wants to prove himself to be one of the best boxers alive at the moment and he is not afraid to take such a risk at this point of his career, I think it will work out for him but I want to see if he can maintain his current speed and increase his punching power after gaining all that weight.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 23, 2021, 06:29:30 AM

Quote from: Jating on November 21, 2021, 05:04:19 AM

And Canelo will be making another history for Mexican boxing here if he beat Makabu and take his cruserweight title.

Then he already signed his name in boxing hall of fame when he beat Kovalev and won light heavy WBO title (which, if not mistaken, he instantly resigned and made vacant lol).

I hope that Canelo will stay in cruiserweight, or drop to light heavy. Because there is nothing left for him to do in middleweight. He should made all this titles in middleweight vacant, get belts in more heavy division, and then get back to middleweight and beat everyone again.

Now that Canelo has already decided, I'm sure it's a good decision and he is a real champion because he didn't stay in one division only after he became an undisputed fighter. Everyone is excited to see him again, the name Canelo will never be forgotten in boxing and fans loved him so much because of his being a humble boxer.

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Quote from: Jating on November 21, 2021, 05:04:19 AM

And Canelo will be making another history for Mexican boxing here if he beat Makabu and take his cruserweight title.

Then he already signed his name in boxing hall of fame when he beat Kovalev and won light heavy WBO title (which, if not mistaken, he instantly resigned and made vacant lol).

I hope that Canelo will stay in cruiserweight, or drop to light heavy. Because there is nothing left for him to do in middleweight. He should made all this titles in middleweight vacant, get belts in more heavy division, and then get back to middleweight and beat everyone again.

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We might see a version of Canelo like this: Grin

However, this is a very complicated situation for Canelo, he will be going up again and our body can only take that much of muscles and fats. Maybe he won't be that fast anymore because of all the weight that he is going to carry. The power though might still be there, but this is not his weight class.

it will be very interesting to see the build-up so we'll have the general idea on what the fight will look like, the additional 30 pounds is quite huge, Canelo must have a good nutritionist and conditioning coach so he can carry his speed and power on that weight division, of course, the ring generalship is still there, but the additional weight will make an impact, it's up to Canelo's body to react if he can maintain the speed and power.

This is my main worry, such a huge increase on body mass is difficult to handle even for regular people, but here we are talking about an athlete that needs to give the best possible performance possible so it is even harder, after all no fighter knows how are they going to react with so much additional weight, however there is the possibility he has made some tests and increased that much weight during the pandemic and he found his performance to be acceptable, so this is why Canelo and his trainer seem to be so convinced this is the right move for them.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 21, 2021, 08:28:14 AM

And by the way, I just checked and see the odds are already available, and it favors on Canelo.

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Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu Odds
Boxer   Odds
Saul “Canelo” Alvarez   -700
Ilunga Makabu   +500

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/

Damn, those odds are definitely attractive. I might actually pull the plug and gamble against Canelo in this case. While I do understand that Canelo is undisputed the greatest boxer in his weight division, increasing it more and fighting boxers in CW may pose some danger given the fact that this would be the first time that he will be doing this.

Though the Canelo's fight against Caleb Plant showed on how dominant he can be in the ring, fighting a boxer in CW is one of those fights that one punch could seal the deal to either boxers. Due to this factor and the odds, I would vote against Canelo and for Makabu.

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Quote from: Distinctin on November 22, 2021, 01:22:14 AM

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 21, 2021, 08:28:14 AM

He wouldn't move up in weight if he feels, he cannot do it, we've seen him fight and we saw how great he is. He is a hard working fighter, he will do everything to win and since he achieve the highest success in his division, moving up in weight is always a great idea.

And by the way, I just checked and see the odds are already available, and it favors on Canelo.

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Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu Odds
Boxer   Odds
Saul “Canelo” Alvarez   -700
Ilunga Makabu   +500

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/

Well, that's what excellent fighters does. Move up when you think you have the momentum and nobody else in your current weight division is capable of beating you.
You're right, Canelo won't climb up the ladder if he thinks he's not ready for it.

I think the odds has a huge difference, I mean Makabu ain't a mediocre boxer. He has power, hand speed, head movements, and the ability to go toe-to-toe against Canelo.
However, I still favor Canelo in this match up, and I feel like Makabu can really match Canelo in this fight.

I guess the +500 for Makabu is very attractive, we haven't seen Canelo fight against a heavier and bigger figher, so we don't know if he can bring his power and speed here that's why it's nice to gamble on the underdog, just don't put a lot of money because +500 would already give a satisfying return if you win.

If not, check for the odds at over/under money line.
If Canelo decided to climb up, it means, he is confident that he can perform on this weight division.
Let's wait for the odds given by crypto bookies as they don't have it yet.
This fight will be worth watching as Canelo is a very good fighter.
Not familiar with Makabu but his record is quite good also, so Canelo should be preparing hard for this one.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 21, 2021, 08:28:14 AM

He wouldn't move up in weight if he feels, he cannot do it, we've seen him fight and we saw how great he is. He is a hard working fighter, he will do everything to win and since he achieve the highest success in his division, moving up in weight is always a great idea.

And by the way, I just checked and see the odds are already available, and it favors on Canelo.

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Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu Odds
Boxer   Odds
Saul “Canelo” Alvarez   -700
Ilunga Makabu   +500

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/

Well, that's what excellent fighters does. Move up when you think you have the momentum and nobody else in your current weight division is capable of beating you.
You're right, Canelo won't climb up the ladder if he thinks he's not ready for it.

I think the odds has a huge difference, I mean Makabu ain't a mediocre boxer. He has power, hand speed, head movements, and the ability to go toe-to-toe against Canelo.
However, I still favor Canelo in this match up, and I feel like Makabu can really match Canelo in this fight.

I guess the +500 for Makabu is very attractive, we haven't seen Canelo fight against a heavier and bigger figher, so we don't know if he can bring his power and speed here that's why it's nice to gamble on the underdog, just don't put a lot of money because +500 would already give a satisfying return if you win.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 21, 2021, 08:28:14 AM

He wouldn't move up in weight if he feels, he cannot do it, we've seen him fight and we saw how great he is. He is a hard working fighter, he will do everything to win and since he achieve the highest success in his division, moving up in weight is always a great idea.

And by the way, I just checked and see the odds are already available, and it favors on Canelo.

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Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu Odds
Boxer   Odds
Saul “Canelo” Alvarez   -700
Ilunga Makabu   +500

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/

Well, that's what excellent fighters does. Move up when you think you have the momentum and nobody else in your current weight division is capable of beating you.
You're right, Canelo won't climb up the ladder if he thinks he's not ready for it.

I think the odds has a huge difference, I mean Makabu ain't a mediocre boxer. He has power, hand speed, head movements, and the ability to go toe-to-toe against Canelo.
However, I still favor Canelo in this match up, and I feel like Makabu can really match Canelo in this fight.

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I can see nothing special with Ilunga Makabu. The man may be bigger and heavier but I guess Canelo is very much in his peak right now. I think Canelo can dismantle this boxer easily. Compared to Caleb, I think Makabu is the easier opponent. This man might only end up being a punching against Canelo. Since he has a bigger body, he will just become a bigger and easier target. Canelo's power is a destroyer. Makabu will likely end up knocked out.

You have to consider that Canelo is the one stranger in Makabu's division.

It's different from what happened in Caleb Plant where Canelo is already used to fighting on that division. Makabu will welcome Canelo at his convenient zone. I will never treat this fight against Makabu as easier compare to Caleb Plant.

I understand that Canelo is entering uncharted waters here but let's leave that to his team of nutritionists and conditioning experts. It adds to making the job easier that Canelo is willingly choosing this path. I guess it makes him more challenged knowing that he is already the king in super middleweight.

I don't think Canelo will find it hard to adjust to a heavier body. After all he is not the kind of fighter who dances around and is dependent on speed which are what's going to be affected by an increase in body size and weight.

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