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December 03, 2021, 08:40:54 AM
These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29



These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.
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December 03, 2021, 08:27:43 AM
WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.

I agree with you, it is to be expected, after all Sulaiman and Canelo are both Mexicans and they are proud of what Canelo has accomplished so they give them all they want like a baby here, So win win for Canelo and this fight for the belt in cruiserweight will be big in Cinco de Mayo, another sell out crowd for Canelo as he will be going for another Mexican record in their holiday.

He better wins this fight so the fans will not be disappointed, he is moving up in weight like he is just walking in the park, so I'm confident that he will win but I also see the possibility of a big upset, of course, no boxer that is unbeatable, they sometimes make a costly mistake that could result to an L, worst if they get KO.


Right, but I would say that Canelo is more intelligent than that, to get an upset although I would agree that the chance is there. Specially he is the one moving up, so he is not sure of the power of the cruiserweight division and for sure it it very different from middleweight as this guy is almost on the heavyweight side.

So let's see if Canelo wins this fight and what will be his next move, maybe go down again to light heavyweight or stay in the cruiserweight and face the other champions and maybe unify it again.
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December 03, 2021, 01:43:15 AM
WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.

I agree with you, it is to be expected, after all Sulaiman and Canelo are both Mexicans and they are proud of what Canelo has accomplished so they give them all they want like a baby here, So win win for Canelo and this fight for the belt in cruiserweight will be big in Cinco de Mayo, another sell out crowd for Canelo as he will be going for another Mexican record in their holiday.

He better wins this fight so the fans will not be disappointed, he is moving up in weight like he is just walking in the park, so I'm confident that he will win but I also see the possibility of a big upset, of course, no boxer that is unbeatable, they sometimes make a costly mistake that could result to an L, worst if they get KO.

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December 02, 2021, 09:04:32 PM
WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.

I agree with you, it is to be expected, after all Sulaiman and Canelo are both Mexicans and they are proud of what Canelo has accomplished so they give them all they want like a baby here, So win win for Canelo and this fight for the belt in cruiserweight will be big in Cinco de Mayo, another sell out crowd for Canelo as he will be going for another Mexican record in their holiday.
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December 02, 2021, 07:44:52 PM


this is a very good opportunity for Canelo to prepare more for this upcoming fight. he should use the waiting time for his rigid preparation because one should not take for granted about the capability of either makabu or mchunu. whoever wins on their match. they have certain advantage as they are fighting on their comfort zone.
so if in case canelo will win on this weight division, he will be more bankable as a boxer here.
If you are on top of your game you are always prepared and you are the target and you are on the list of almost every fighter within your category, and Canelo knows all this he knows who to fight and who he can beat in the weight category that he chooses, so I think he has good chances on the two fighters, whoever wins between the two, Canelo will be ready, I never question his power he just has to be Canelo in the ring and things will be good.

Yeah, and Canelo knows this for sure that's why he always prepare 110% in every fight and you can see it in every youtube videos about his training regimen and preparation and that's what keeps him on top of his game as he reaches his prime. So he has time in his side to estimate either Makabu or Mchunu and whoever wins that fight, Canelo will be ready. The weight will not be a problem for him, he just need to eat more to gain more pounds for this weight class.
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December 02, 2021, 06:52:09 PM


this is a very good opportunity for Canelo to prepare more for this upcoming fight. he should use the waiting time for his rigid preparation because one should not take for granted about the capability of either makabu or mchunu. whoever wins on their match. they have certain advantage as they are fighting on their comfort zone.
so if in case canelo will win on this weight division, he will be more bankable as a boxer here.
If you are on top of your game you are always prepared and you are the target and you are on the list of almost every fighter within your category, and Canelo knows all this he knows who to fight and who he can beat in the weight category that he chooses, so I think he has good chances on the two fighters, whoever wins between the two, Canelo will be ready, I never question his power he just has to be Canelo in the ring and things will be good.
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December 02, 2021, 06:51:02 PM
they have certain advantage as they are fighting on their comfort zone.
so if in case canelo will win on this weight division, he will be more bankable as a boxer here.

Canelo is almost fighting on that weight when he is entering the ring. They are just maintaining the weight requirements before the weigh-in. After that, they will eat lots again. Stepping on another weight class is surely not a problem for Canelo.

The one who waiting above will have the problem. He should do double to triple preparation as the beast is coming his way.
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December 02, 2021, 05:53:47 PM
WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.

True, Sulaiman loves Canelo and being Mexican and holding a WBC belt, Canelo has his perks and can choose whoever he fights under this organisation.

And since Canelo is the cash cow now, every boxer is after him, like Makabu and Mchunu who will fight first, sort of eliminator but the funny thing is that they belt is on the line. Anyway, I hope Makabu wins so he will get his biggest paycheck and give Canelo a good fight at cruiserweight.

this is a very good opportunity for Canelo to prepare more for this upcoming fight. he should use the waiting time for his rigid preparation because one should not take for granted about the capability of either makabu or mchunu. whoever wins on their match. they have certain advantage as they are fighting on their comfort zone.
so if in case canelo will win on this weight division, he will be more bankable as a boxer here.
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December 02, 2021, 05:32:57 PM
WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.

True, Sulaiman loves Canelo and being Mexican and holding a WBC belt, Canelo has his perks and can choose whoever he fights under this organisation.

And since Canelo is the cash cow now, every boxer is after him, like Makabu and Mchunu who will fight first, sort of eliminator but the funny thing is that they belt is on the line. Anyway, I hope Makabu wins so he will get his biggest paycheck and give Canelo a good fight at cruiserweight.
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December 02, 2021, 02:47:22 PM
The transition to a heavier division is always difficult, after all he is considered to be a very heavy puncher in his current division but at the heavier divisions this may not be true, so supposing this is the case then he will need to adjust his style and increase the rate at which he throws punches, which will leave him more open for attacks and we will see if his chin can take the increased strength of his opponents, all in all this seems like a good challenge for Canelo and it is going to be very interesting to see if Canelo can overcome it.

This will be a challenging fight for Canelo for sure even if he is considered as a heavy puncher in his current division moving to a heavier division is not that easy. Ilunga Makabu accept the offer smoothly and he is preparing for this fight with Canelo for he was also acknowledging that Canelo was one of the best fighter today. This would going to be an exciting fight to watch for, I am rooting for Canelo but I don't think so if a knock out win in favor of Canelo will going to happen, quite difficult to predict.
We will have to wait and see if Canelo actually fights Makabu, it seems he needs to have a mandatory fight and his opponent is not taking the step aside money because he thinks he can win, and in that case he is the one that will face Canelo and get a lot more money from that fight than whatever he could get from the step aside money, however assuming that Makabu wins it is still going to be a difficult fight for Canelo as he will have no time to adjust to the division and will fight one of the champions right away.

As far a I know, this is verbally been approved by WBC already during their convention so most likely this fight will push thru without any problems or hitch and the mandatory will have to wait for the results. I guess this is the perks of being the best fighter right now, Canelo can just requested the governing body that he wants to fight and challenge their Cruiserweight champion. And Makabu can't do anything about it because he will get a lot of money fighting Canalo.
Makabu wants to fight Canelo right away, after all he knows this is going to be a big fight for him whether he wins or losses as Canelo will bring a lot of viewers with him due to his popularity, it is the mandatory challenger that wants to fight Makabu first so in the case he wins then he is the one to face Canelo right away, now it may not seem to make a difference but it does, especially when it comes to the money, after all if the mandatory beats Makabu he will receive more money simply because he is the current champion and Canelo is the challenger, but if the mandatory has to wait until we see the result of the fight between Makabu and Canelo then he will receive less money if he faced Canelo as now the roles will be reversed and he will be the challenger.
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December 02, 2021, 12:37:06 PM
Makabu is compared to Canelo Alvarez, as the biblical Goliath is compared to the Jewish shepherd David.  

Canelo Alvarez is only 173 centimeters tall.  Makabu's height is 183 centimeters.  Alvarez's arms span is only 179 centimeters.  Makabu's arms span is 188 centimeters.  

Makabu is a titan, a monster ...

He will drive Canelo Alvarez into the ground, like a builder drives a pile into the ground with a sledgehammer.  At the same time, Makabu is very fast.  Has excellent characteristics.  He is tireless in battle.  

In my opinion, Canelo will lose.
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December 02, 2021, 10:29:27 AM

Canelo needs to move in weight if he wants to be at least near Manny Pacquiao's achievement as the only 8th division world champion. This is another step for him and if he will win and be a champion in a higher division then that would be so exciting, however, with his height, I doubt he will dominate.


As long as he can give a good fight or their match will be not boring to watch he can still be popular. Pacquio is too good to compare to any boxer but aure they can still be able to achieve Pacquio’s achievement if they can perform well even in any division. As I watch boxing I prefer for more a entertaining match with fight that are not more on run or hugs. So if he can give a excitement and remarkable match he have a chance to atleast be close into what Pacquio’s reach.
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December 02, 2021, 10:12:15 AM


Canelo needs to move in weight if he wants to be at least near Manny Pacquiao's achievement as the only 8th division world champion. This is another step for him and if he will win and be a champion in a higher division then that would be so exciting, however, with his height, I doubt he will dominate.



He doesn't have to he doesn't have a chance to equal the eight-division titles but he can do better by fighting the best and beating them and becoming a great attraction in boxing and of course be a classic champion that will be respected for many generations, Ali is a three-time champion but there are champions that surpass that records, but he is well respected and so is Julio Cezar Chavez, there are a lot of ways to become great champions.
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December 02, 2021, 10:04:03 AM
WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

Well then it's a great time indeed for Canelo to prepare for his fight against Makabu if this will be push through in near future. I know Canelo is such a great boxer and he's undoubtedly has undefeated record but yeah this kind of opportunity of seeing his soon to be opponent fighting in the ring will be his basis on what kind of strategy does he need to prepare or does he has anything to improve to himself. Though I have a gut that Canelo will be a winner in case, I don't also set aside the potential and skill of Makabu this man is also a great fighter.
Maybe we need to wait and see as well the fight between Makabu vs. Mchunu and assess whichever will win have a good chance against Canelo. Maybe even before the announcement, Canelo is really eyeing Makabu to be his next opponent in his quest for a new weight class to fight, meaning Makabu is already in the radar and he already is familiar with his style. And he just make a formal announcement during the WBC convention that indeed he will skip light heavy and go directly to cruiserweight.
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December 02, 2021, 09:25:36 AM



That's is his advantage, is punching power because he is the bigger guy, but Canelo has been in many battles and he has a tough chin and strong body, so he will surely survive and win this fight. I'm so sure but I'm still open of a possibility of upset as Canelo is so hype now that fans think he is almost unbeatable.

Their team may be biting what they can chew, but this is boxing great boxers never know their limitation until they tested themself, that is why we have Manny Pacquiao an eight-division world champion, and Canelo has a lot to offer and he wants to extend himself, forget the cherry-picking thing he wants to fight champions to add more titles and prestige to his name, he knows he is not young forever and wants to accomplish a lot.

Canelo needs to move in weight if he wants to be at least near Manny Pacquiao's achievement as the only 8th division world champion. This is another step for him and if he will win and be a champion in a higher division then that would be so exciting, however, with his height, I doubt he will dominate.

for those who are not aware of the division in boxing, here are the list.

https://www.britannica.com/sports/boxing/Weight-divisions

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minimumweight, 105 pounds (48 kg)
light flyweight, 108 pounds (49 kg)
flyweight, 112 pounds (51 kg)
super flyweight, 115 pounds (52 kg)
bantamweight, 118 pounds (53.5 kg)
super bantamweight, 122 pounds (55 kg)
featherweight, 126 pounds (57 kg)
super featherweight, 130 pounds (59 kg)
lightweight, 135 pounds (61 kg)
super lightweight, 140 pounds (63.5 kg)
welterweight, 147 pounds (67 kg)
super welterweight, 154 pounds (70 kg)
middleweight, 160 pounds (72.5 kg)
super middleweight, 168 pounds (76 kg)
light heavyweight, 175 pounds (79 kg)
cruiserweight, 200 pounds (91 kg)
heavyweight, unlimited

Canelo is fight on cruiserweight now.
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December 02, 2021, 09:10:48 AM



That's is his advantage, is punching power because he is the bigger guy, but Canelo has been in many battles and he has a tough chin and strong body, so he will surely survive and win this fight. I'm so sure but I'm still open of a possibility of upset as Canelo is so hype now that fans think he is almost unbeatable.

Their team may be biting what they can chew, but this is boxing great boxers never know their limitation until they tested themself, that is why we have Manny Pacquiao an eight-division world champion, and Canelo has a lot to offer and he wants to extend himself, forget the cherry-picking thing he wants to fight champions to add more titles and prestige to his name, he knows he is not young forever and wants to accomplish a lot.
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December 02, 2021, 08:26:37 AM
WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.

That's is his advantage, is punching power because he is the bigger guy, but Canelo has been in many battles and he has a tough chin and strong body, so he will surely survive and win this fight. I'm so sure but I'm still open of a possibility of upset as Canelo is so hype now that fans think he is almost unbeatable.
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December 02, 2021, 06:56:37 AM
WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.
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December 02, 2021, 05:52:34 AM
WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

Well then it's a great time indeed for Canelo to prepare for his fight against Makabu if this will be push through in near future. I know Canelo is such a great boxer and he's undoubtedly has undefeated record but yeah this kind of opportunity of seeing his soon to be opponent fighting in the ring will be his basis on what kind of strategy does he need to prepare or does he has anything to improve to himself. Though I have a gut that Canelo will be a winner in case, I don't also set aside the potential and skill of Makabu this man is also a great fighter.
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WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

This is just a speculation, we have an old saying style that makes a fight, there will be no changes in the style and power of both fighters when they faced Canelo and Canelo will have no advantages whoever wins between the two, all these three boxers have already established their power and style, it cannot be defined by one fight alone it goes on who implemented their skills and power the most when they meet, and between the two Canelo has the more polished skills.
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