Topic: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Jermell Charlo - September 30th in Las Vegas (Read 1208 times)

It's hard to speculate, Crawford on all his fights he was never hurt never knocked down, or even in trouble he always dominated all his fights, he has proven that he is the best welterweight champion, Canelo also comes in the welterweight and he did carry his power in that division if Canelo can why not Crawford.

Crawford is a special guy he has already proven himself so I don't want to judge Crawford to be a weaker fighter if he faced Canelo if they ever face in the ring, but right now he will have to take care of Spence or challenge Charlo, a lot of exciting fights coming on these two fighters, Canelo and Crawford.

I appreciate your comment! Favouring Benavidez might not be the most common opinion among posters. If that fight were to happen, I believe Canelo would still be a heavy favourite. It's understandable that bookies set odds like that because he is very popular now. As a result, the betting odds are often overvalued, making it favourable for bettors like you who believe in his opponent's potential to win.

I wonder if there was really a strategy to win. It seems like Charlo trained hard in order to survive the fight and he was indeed very successful. Previous Canelo opponents if not getting stopped have lots of bruises, even Bivol's arm was severely bruised. Charlo was quick to stay away and then hug Canelo to avoid the combinations. It was a shameful performance. Even in the late rounds where it is obvious that he needs to score a knockout or multiple knockdowns to get a win, he didn't really try.

Jermell's performance affects the market of his next fight. No wonder Crawford said he is no longer pursuing a fight with him.

Crawford criticized the performance of Jermell Charlo in that fight. He's trying to throw himself to the situation so that people will start talking about his challenge to Canelo. I wonder, what would happen to Crawford if he were to face Canelo in a heavier weight class where he isn't as comfortable? Would he face the same fate as Charlo?

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1584822/ashamed-terence-crawford-jermell-charlo-canelo-alvarez/

As crawford said

Agreed, it can be argued that Charlo only wanted the money and run away, however, we should not be inconsiderate on Canelo's performance. Canelo was always going near Charlo and he was also cornering him. This might have made Charlo very uncomfortable and caused him not to perform very good vs. the Mexican.

Also, I speculate that he does not like Benavidez as his next opponent. It might be still Bivol but he cannot mention this in the ring. A tactic for Canelo's team might be to challenge Beterbiev first and win the WBC, IBF and WBO championships to force Bivol to come to him.

It was a huge weight climb of 12 pounds.  Even Charlo stated that he felt the impact of huge weight difference.

I watched the highlights not the entire fight, yeah Charlo did earn my respect because despite of huge weight adjustment, he is able to face Canelo face to face and able to exchange punches in several occassions.

After watching the match I wonder what Jermell Charlo was thinking taking up a fight with Canelo Alvarez. It was a fight that from the beginning you could see Charlo felt Canelo was obviously above him and let's not forget that he had to climb up in weight for this one.

From start to finish Canelo owned the contest he was More on the offense and Charlo was on the defense backing up and it cost him real big. But I would not say my respect goes out to him for taking the fight because money was involved but I would say he actually had the potentials to cause an upset but he didn't obviously believe in himself .

In terms of skill Benavidez isn't a whole lot better than Charlo but he has other advantages. He is a natural super middleweight, he is younger, he is 6'2" (1.88 m), and is a bigger puncher than Canelo. Benavidez could easily be fighting at light heavyweight. He is not somebody that Canelo can just manhandle and impose his will through brute force. Canelo will have to outbox Benavidez but he's not nearly as fast and gets hit a lot more than when he was at his peak. It's a fight that can go either way but I favor Benavidez slightly.

Looks like it. Charlo would have been giving all he got to hurt Canelo in the last round but the fact it lasted til it last, gives the impression that they are there just as they signed.
Even so, the fight is fun to watch. There was a quick KO in the 7th round I guess that made people stand up in excitement and then slowly died.

I couldn't say an easy fight for Canelo but sure Charlo is a big man for his weight. Heard one of the heavyweights say your body helps you absorb punches when you gain weight.

In this fight, Jermell Charlo was always defending himself, he was always taking a step back in order to organize his defense, and any movement that Canelo made he took a huge step back. His strategy, I don't know if this could be considered a good strategy, consisted of standing back, making some movements with his arms, then retreating, when the canelo attacked him, then he would fight back, but always taking steps backwards. He tried a few times to make quick movements with his feet and some punches, but within a few minutes that Canelo counterattacked, he immediately retreated again, for most of the fight, or even I dare say that the entire fight, he was defending himself, taking steps back to ago, who seemed to be feeling some fear, or was being very cautious

or perhaps his constant retreat could be some strategy to make the caneloo get tired early while he saved his strength so that when the canelo got tired he would start attacking, the problem was that with that he suffered blows and as a consequence he soon threw himself towards the body of the canelo, constantly held the canelo. it looked more like him and that he was tired instead of Canelo being the first to get tired since Canelo was the guy attacking, it looked like Jermell was scared or sparing himself. In any case, this fight was very dominated by Canelo, congratulations to Canelo for the easy victory he had

If this Benavidez fight did not happen one of them is alluding to it, Benavidez really wants to have a piece of Canelo he is the missing fight to establish himself and Canelo needs to fight Benavidez so there will be no more names in the lower division that can keep up with him.

I also don't recommend a Bivol rematch, the guy is too good for Canelo being a natural light heavyweight, as long as Bivol and Beterbiev are the champions Canelo will never capture the light heavyweight, his conquest stops in the super middleweight.

Very easy fight for Canelo. Charlo has lost already in first round, and all other rounds all he was thinking about was money cheque and how soon it would be over. The whole fight looked like both of them did not want to fight, but were only fulfiling contract obligatories. I bet nobody of them gonna remember that fight in future.

Charlo though said that he is around 173 lbs and perhaps Canelo as well around the light weight limit during the fight. It ended in a decision on the side of Canelo and as what we have been speculating, maybe the added weight on Charlo was a bad idea + ring rust.

Charlo in the post fight he said that he wanted to fight Crawford next at 154 lbs. But based on his performance or at least as per Crawford,


https://twitter.com/terencecrawford/status/1708353103702159586

For Canelo saying that he should fight Benavidez next, here is what he says,


https://twitter.com/dantheboxingman/status/1708345755231306029

But not sure if Crawford will have to continue with that goal, jumping 3 weight class and fight Canelo. Perhaps it is was a different Canelo here, but Alvarez is still sharp and that body shot that he throws in an angle, it really hurt I guess that's why Charlo is very tentative in this fight and can't even throw a decent combination to even hurt Canelo. And so with that, Canelo just go and steam roll Charlo not worried about the power because he knows that he can take it. And as what we could have seen, maybe after round 1, he just wanted to survived and be on the pay check only.

Moving two divisions upward is a trend and Terrence Crawford has been vocal in the last few months that he is open or interested in fighting Canelo and the latter has also shown interest to Crawford's proposal so i will not be surprised if one day, Canelo vs Crawford will be announce because a fight with Bivol or Benavidez is something that i don't see to happen next year.

Maybe we will see a good fight that time. However, I think that fight is not going to happen this year. We are already in the last quarter of the year, and Canelo has already had 2 fights. I think he will rest in the remaining months and enjoy the money he earned this year. Benavidez also has a great record, but I believe he is not on Canelo's level. He's probably just on the same level as Charlo, the boxer that Canelo beat today. Canelo's biggest challenge is Bivol; therefore, the rematch should happen.

Your prediction was almost correct mate, Charlo went down in round 7, but wasn't knockout. But yes, as I expected, Canelo rehydrated very well and looks the heavier of the two.

Charlo doesn't look to fight though, he has wanted to have his biggest paycheck. Coming from a long lay-off and hand injuries, and then he think he can beat Canelo at his comfortable weight class and himself coming from 154 lbs to 168 lbs? Credits to Canelo, after a lackluster performance against John Ryder, he comes back and demolished the supposedly Charlo that will knock him out.

Yeah, the fight against John Ryder was better, way better because Ryder was fighting in Canelo's hometown Mexico and yet he showed some resistance against Canelo and even scored back in the final rounds.
But in this fight against Charlo, he ain't even punching back in high amounts like he ain't the challenger, it is a disappointing waste of time and money for those who paid PPV.
https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/canelo-alvarez-vs-jermell-charlo-fight-results-highlights-mexican-star-retains-undisputed-title-by-decision/live/
It's obvious when a boxer badly wants the title from the champion, but in this fight, I didn't see that.
But here is what Charlo said.
He says he never makes excuses and yet he talked about going up 12 pounds. Well, in my dictionary that's an excuse.
I agree with you guys, Bivol might be the best match the organization could offer to the fans and make this more entertaining.
I think I expected too much for Charlo and his words got into me, I didn't know he would be that bad and yes, it almost looks like he is just aiming for the money. Well, he will receive it but I what about the reputation? This theories and gossips will come out and he will definitely see it.

It's worth mentioning these three, actually. Without a doubt, Canelo beat Charlo easily. Whoever comes first among the three names mentioned, it's always okay. But I'm sure promoters will try to prioritize which fighter to pair with Canelo to generate more money. With that said, I think Crawford is the top priority. That way, if Crawford really struggles in carrying his power, Canelo's camp would ensure they'll have an easy win but with a bigger reward.

Next in line is probably Benavidez. Currently, he is the boxer that I think would really match Canelo. I'm not sure if Canelo will win, but if he does, then the finale would be to avenge his loss to Bivol.

Benavidez is the only fighter worth mentioning. A rematch with Bivol would be a one sided snoozefest. Crawford is too small and would lose similarly to Charlo. Benavidez never lost his belt in the ring and is the current mandatory. Canelo said he didn’t care who was next so there is no excuse for Haymon not to make the fight everybody wants to see.