Topic: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Jermell Charlo - September 30th in Las Vegas - page 6. (Read 914 times)

Jermell is the better and fairer opponent here. Jermall should be given ample time for his comeback. And when he finally does, he shouldn't be facing a Canelo Alvarez right away. He should be facing a tune-up fight first.

Even the active Jermell is expected to be having a hard time fighting against Canelo. His weight adjustment alone is enough challenge for him already. I hope he turns out athletic enough to keep Canelo at bay with efficient jabs.

I think Canelo at -230 and Jermell at +170 are fair enough odds.

14 lbs is too huge of a difference.  A tough 168 lbs fighting a  154 lbs even if this 154 lbs is a heavy hitter does not need any special ability to see who is at the advantage.  Even if we consider Charlo's punching power is devastating at 154 lbs, he is fighting a tough opponent that can absorb heavy punches from light heavyweight opponent.  And they are fighting at the most comfortable division of Canelo.  So almost all odds are against Charlo.  Even speed is against Charlo on this because adding more weight will hamper is agility.

Well, we cannot deny that Canelo is one of the strongest fighters, I also like how this boxer does his things, as his way of training shows us, it should also be noted that he is a boxer who is quite a searcher of things on social networks because he always We have seen him that he likes to attract attention and do things that others do not, so it is something different, with respect to Jermell I cannot say less, he is a boxer who has great technique, a good punch, I like how he uses the left, I don't like his way of blocking or defending blows, he is a boxer that I sometimes see that he is and it is easy to make a counterattack and he does not have much capacity except by embracing, it is the only thing, here the one who could have an advantage is Canelo because he does not manage his defense and attack a little better, besides that he is a more versatile boxer and he sticks to what is in the ring, he is more bearable and has a lot of intelligence when fighting.

and Canelo's coach saves nothing:

Canelo’s trainer: “First, Jermell, then go after Jermall Charlo”





Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/08/canelos-trainer-first-jermell-then-go-after-jermall-charlo/

Well, many things can be speculated, but I prefer that this fight take place first, let's see how Canelo fares with the result, there are always many possibilities, but here in boxing anything can happen, it's not that Canelo is sure about it. 1005 and things go the best way, he can also lose, and in the event that Canelo loses, how will they do later? what fights could be for Canelo, because when a boxer loses he is not so valued to fight, at least that is what it seems to me, I don't see any other way, from what I have seen in boxing fights and worldwide things are handled like this.

Personally, I really like Canelo's fighting style, his strategy is good, in addition to the fact that he is a very tough fighter, it is quite difficult to take him down, in the case of Jermell I should prepare myself with a very high level of demand, in Canelo's case too, because an unpleasant surprise for him would not go down well with him or his career, this may be something that we can always see as an option whether they win or not, but for Canelo it is fatal that he could lose.

Canelo Alvarez has proven a lot of things in the boxing industry he is champion that very strong, and even some toughest boxer in all time he defeated without a doubt Canelo is very strong and tough boxer in his division. But sd of now jermell charlo will face canelo alvarez which if we base on the background of charlo we can say that ge is one of the strong boxers. And ye this fight will be the biggest fight in all-time.

The only advantage I can see that Charlo has is that Canelo is not that the same anymore but still, that doesn't change the fact that his odds to win the fight are much smaller compared to the latter who has already proven throughout the times that he is indeed the best boxer at 168 and once the P4P King. Besides, it doesn't have to be that complicated to figure out who have the upper hand in this fight and we sure know who's who that is why a lot of people are doubting Charlo's move towards Canelo because that is indeed a big jump just to fight Canelo and have a big paycheck.

I'm not really sure what you mean though, Tyson has been praising a lot of boxers, from Inoue, to Francis Ngannou to Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis. Not sure if you are also aware that Mike Tyson has a podcast that he guest fighters so to he is very known to give credits to this fighters.

So not surprise that he will support Canelo here is that is the case. For sure he has his reasons and for us it's obvious too. Jumping 2 weight classes and then fighting the best super Middleweight, we can commend Charlo for having the balls but that's it. After this fight, he should go back to 154 lbs and fight Crawford.

I guess we don't need to be a Mike Tyson so see who is going to win this fight. I mean, Charlo is good at 154 lbs, but this is a totally different league for him at 168 lbs and this is the best weight class for Canelo Alvarez.

He is just lucky that he was given this chance and opportunity to fight Alvarez and most likely because of his good relationship with Al Haymon. If not, then there could be other fighters can could line up for Canelo. But I guess Canelo is too smart not to sign with Match Room and instead go to PBC as they don't have a stable of good 168 lbs fighters.

This shows the good chemistry with the Charlo and Mike Tyson.Because Tyson never praise any one for the game without the boxer had good game.He is the god of Boxing as like the Lara,Sachin tendulkar to the cricket.The experience person will say the person who win the game by the view.So this had some sense is my opinion,the Jermall going to win the game by the K.O of Canelo.It doesn't mean Canelo doesn't had a game,the game of Charlo was ambitious game and he had more will power to win the game.

Mike Tyson himself had something to say about this fight. He seems to believe that Jermall Charlo is going to lose this fight and that Canelo Alvarez will easily beat him, without much of a struggle. Charlo said "Mike Tyson is Mike Tyson — he could say whatever he wants". But I think that the winner is going to be obvious here and Mike, with his years of expert experience, saw it coming. Sure Charlo had a good rise from his weight division but he is still not ready for Alvarez. Ambition combined with pure and unadulterated willpower alone cannot win fights for very long.

Is Dmitry Bivol included in the 3-fight deal that Canelo signed with Al Haymon? Because I'm not that sure if Canelo is still making a move for that one as it seems that the discussion between them has gotten cold now and already fell into pieces as Bivol's camp are in the silent zone as well. So anyway, a fight with David Benavidez is what I wanted to see in the future and hopefully there will be no excuses like the kid is not yet on that level to become rightful to fight Canelo because that just doesn't make any sense. And if Canelo will try to delay that fight, I hope he knows that the advantage is gradually transitioning towards Benavidez as there's no high hopes anymore for Canelo if he's already a year or two older than his age now.

For now it looks that way, but there are speculations that the 3 fight deal that he signs with Al Haymon included a fight with David Benavidez, so it's early to call that he docks him. According to Canelo, Benavidez doesn't have any in his resume that interest Canelo to fight for him. But maybe later, or as what the news says, Benavidez is rumoured to be fighting Andrade next.

So maybe if Benavidez win and then Canelo beat Jermell Charlo, they could set up a fight in Mexican Cinco de Mayo next year. So we will see, Canelo is really looking for this big payday fight in his 3 fight deal.

Nobody can deny or confirm that claim but judging the current picture, it sure looks to me as well that Canelo and his team is ducking for a possible fight with Benavidez. They are just hiding behind the reason that Benavidez doesn't have anything to offer that is why a a fight with him will have no benefit for Canelo, I mean obviously that is the case because Canelo currently holds all four belts. To add that, these sanctioning bodies aren't doing something to give Canelo a mandatory fight against Benavidez.

And to add again, it is the same situation for the Bivol vs Canelo rematch because Bivol's camp already said that Canelo's camp are just acting that they want a rematch but in reality, there are not moving at all and we know what might be the reasons for that.

Isn't Canelo team docking Benavidez?  The main reason is that Canelo team has no confidence that their boxer will win against Benavidez.  They wanted to maintain Canelo being the cash cow and don't want to spoil their means of getting money.  If Canelo fight Benavidez and got KO'ed or got a controversial win, then I believe the popularity of Canelo will suffer and it is obvious that it will affect their cash cow's capability to bring more money .  This is also the reason why they are prioritizing smaller boxer to fight so that they can have a bigger chance of winning and continue to make Canelo their source of huge funds.

Yeah, his performance against John Ryder is a sign that Canelo is declining. But we have the argument that he is coming from a hand injury so let's give him a benefit of a doubt. But if he had another bad performance here, to the point that he lost the fight and was gifted by a decision by the judges then Canelo and his camp will have to take a closer look as to who will they fight next.


I also wanted to see this fight, a young and tall and has power in both hands and he is very fast as well. The only issue I see with David Benavidez is his weight. I read that he had balloon to somewhere to 200 lbs off season. Meaning he doesn't have the discipline to maintain his weight and so he cuts and lose a lot of pounds to meet 168 lbs and for sure Canelo will have a rehydration clause on him.

Canelo die-hard fans will surely argue with you about that because they have a reason that Canelo just had his wrist done with a surgery, which is the reason why he was a bit declining in his fight against John Ryder even if that was a win on their side. Overall, they cannot deny it that Canelo is indeed showing some negative signs plus that Bivol loss is a tough one to digest and even Canelo himself is having a hard time going through that.

If you'll ask me, I'd say that there is a good chance that David Benavidez will deliver Canelo's 3rd loss in his career because the kid definitely have a talent that can somehow match with the current Canelo specially after the fact that he is not the same Canelo anymore. Afterwards, maybe it will just be a money fight but if he cares for his legacy and name, he will not scathe it even more as he will just be a stepping stone in the industry if he continues to fight.

Yeah, he could be up there with Julio Cesar Chavez Jr as one of the greatest Mexican fighter or at least in the modern era if he wins his 3 fight deal with PBC. However, I don't know if you will agree with me, but it seems that Canelo is on a decline, starting with a lost to Bivol and then his last fight against John Ryder in Mexico, he was not impressive, causing some fans to question if he still has it or not.

So this fight is very important for him, maybe if he is on the decline, he could still win in a narrow score in the judges score card. But if he chooses a taller and natural 168 lbs in Benavidez, it might be his another L, in my opinion.

It could be a big jump, but we really don't know what's the real body weight of this twins, the other one fight at 160 lbs. But if you look at one advantage of Charlo against Canelo, is that they are taller. So perhaps that added height might help him to put more weight in his body and it can still take that even if he is jumping 2 weight classes here.

I'm not seeing a boring fight though, Canelo might is getting slower as he is 33 years old. Still prime years for boxer, but the wear and tear early on his career might be taking a toll right now, he started at a very young age and maybe this is the reason why Charlo thinks he has a good chance against him at this point and willing to jump higher in weight class.

His twin, who is supposedly the original boxer scheduled to fought Alvarez campaigns at 160 lbs. So most likely Jermell body can accommodate as high as 168 lbs too. Manny Pacquiao is very different though, he started the whole era of jumping in weight class. But I doubt that someone can replicate what he had done because he is a legend.

I would disagree about the boring fight, Canelo wanted to make a statement that he is the cash cow and so with that, for sure he will try to go for a knockout to shut the mouth of this Charlo twins.

It's not common for fighters to go up two weight divisions at once, not unless you're Manny Pacquiao and you know damn well how to carry yourself and train for the said bump in classes. With that said, I don't think Charlo will have an easy time in this division. Hopefully he'd be humbled by Canelo in their fight and realize that he's not ready to take on the super middleweight class just yet. This is a Canelo-sided victory, that's for damn sure.

Manny Pacquiao's case is a bit different though because he made that long haul climb way back when he was still young where he skipped super-fly and bantam, compared to Jermell Charlo now who is already 33 years old and for the record, Charlo will only skip one weight class, just the middleweight because he will meet Canelo at super-middle.

More news about Jermell Charlo, I just learned today that he will be stripped of his WBO title and will not be an undisputed champion anymore. At the same time, Tim Tszyu will now be a full WBO champion because Charlo's stripping is described as imminent.