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Quote from: chaser15 on August 11, 2022, 05:58:58 PM

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While Canelo is very eager to fight GGG and possibly end his career, its the other way around with Golovkin, he just treated it as another fight and Canelo as another fighter, and their fight as another one of his fights, he has no plan after the fight and admit he is already 40 and nearing retirement and if he losses it could be the end of his career, I don't know if this is just another strategy so Canelo can think that GGG is beatable now, though on is last fight there's no sign of slowing down.

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I'm not sure that GGG has no plan of fighting again after this fight but referring to his possible schedule, he already has a lineup regardless if GGG won or lose in this match. His next fight will probably 3-4 months after the trilogy and it was mandated to him by the WBA to fight Erislandy Lara.

Although we can only get an official update about it once we see the result of the trilogy.

And actually, Canelo is not really eager to fight GGG. He is even avoiding GGG for years. But since the community is pressuring him and it's a big money to organize this event, Canelo consider taking the request now to end his chapter with GGG for the last time.

It is indeed big money that he will be bagging again, knowing how fans really wanted both of them

inside the ring again, with what happened to his last fight, he needed something to bring that attention and create noise
with his career, and the good thing, there's GGG who just got from a win who is also eager to fight with him and beat him
the timing is perfect for both fighters.

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Quote from: harizen on August 11, 2022, 06:37:20 PM

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We already proved that he cannot really defeat the guys in that weight class because he is already struggling in the light-heavy.

"For now", yes. He is not capable yet of dealing with challenges in Cruiserweight.

He needs to be used first on fighting at the Light Heavyweight to slowly adopt the environment there until such time that he's now fully prepared to step on upper weight class. A target to defeat Dmitry Bivol should be on Canelo's future plan as if he can't pass that guy who previously defeated, then he won't test his strength if there's an improvement later on.

If Canelo loses this trilogy fight against GGG, then it will just be one more reason why he won't last in the Cruiserweight. How can he deal with active and prime boxers there if he can't beat a veteran boxer that is now close to retirement and far from being prime now?

I don't understand this. Why he need to move up the weight classes? He was looking very comfortable in the Super middleweight division and then he wanted to fight Dmitry Bivol in Light heavyweight. And that didn't ended well for him. Had he stayed in Super middleweight, he could have maintained his reputation. The loss against Bivol did a lot of damage to him. Anyway, for the fight against Gennady Golovkin, he is moving down one weight division. I hope that now he will remain stable between Middleweight and Super middleweight.

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Quote from: stadus on August 11, 2022, 02:55:43 PM

We already proved that he cannot really defeat the guys in that weight class because he is already struggling in the light-heavy.

"For now", yes. He is not capable yet of dealing with challenges in Cruiserweight.

He needs to be used first on fighting at the Light Heavyweight to slowly adopt the environment there until such time that he's now fully prepared to step on upper weight class. A target to defeat Dmitry Bivol should be on Canelo's future plan as if he can't pass that guy who previously defeated, then he won't test his strength if there's an improvement later on.

If Canelo loses this trilogy fight against GGG, then it will just be one more reason why he won't last in the Cruiserweight. How can he deal with active and prime boxers there if he can't beat a veteran boxer that is now close to retirement and far from being prime now?

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 11, 2022, 11:09:59 AM

While Canelo is very eager to fight GGG and possibly end his career, its the other way around with Golovkin, he just treated it as another fight and Canelo as another fighter, and their fight as another one of his fights, he has no plan after the fight and admit he is already 40 and nearing retirement and if he losses it could be the end of his career, I don't know if this is just another strategy so Canelo can think that GGG is beatable now, though on is last fight there's no sign of slowing down.

https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-lets-face-it-im-40-years-old-nearing-my-retirement--168258

I'm not sure that GGG has no plan of fighting again after this fight but referring to his possible schedule, he already has a lineup regardless if GGG won or lose in this match. His next fight will probably 3-4 months after the trilogy and it was mandated to him by the WBA to fight Erislandy Lara.

Although we can only get an official update about it once we see the result of the trilogy.

And actually, Canelo is not really eager to fight GGG. He is even avoiding GGG for years. But since the community is pressuring him and it's a big money to organize this event, Canelo consider taking the request now to end his chapter with GGG for the last time.

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And I think it's all about the power, those guy are natural heavy, so heavy handed as well. It will be something in the catch weight but still it's not a sure thing for Canelo to win at Cruiserweight and yeah, probably the same result, going to be L for him with the big Makabu.

So now, let's just enjoy him and GGG next month, if he get passed GGG and win, let's see if he wanted to go to Light heavyweight again and go after Bivol for a rematch or stay in 168 lbs but there will be no challenges for him.

Well, there is no other way but to enjoy the upcoming fight of Canelo and GGG.

But, It would really a challenge for Canelo if he moves up to cruiserweight because of the weight and possible power disadvantage. Those at the heavier weight can receive much stronger punches so the ability of Canelo to knockdown his opponent will be tested if he moves up in weight division. Not because he is a Knock out artist in the lower weight means he will be the same when he climbs the weight. We have seen several boxers to have difficulty in knocking their opponent even though they are devastating in their previous weight division.

Either way, Canelo will look for some boxers to defeat in the upper-weight divisions as he might be bored already in his current division. Not sure though he can really defeat some boxers in the cruiserweight because we saw how he struggled in the light-heavy against Bivol, so what more in cruiser if he will indeed face Makabu or face Beterbiev in light-heavy.

If canelo add his weight and fight in the cruiserweight which is 50% of winning because as we can saw in his right in lightweight his speed and power Matters its a big difference between he fight his suitable weight because he can perform well his power and speed can control the game. But if he can add more and fight in cruiserweight it will be a big challenge for him but only thing need to do is that keep focus and develop his extra ordinary moves to have a chance to win in higher weight.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on August 10, 2022, 11:26:16 PM

I think it was early this year when the WBC approved Canelo to jump in the cruiserweight and fights WBC champ Ilunga Makabu. It didn't materialized though, maybe there is no money in a Makabu fight or the Canelo team thought it was too big for them.

Yes, Canelo tried to train and fight against Ilunga Makabu in the cruiserweight but eventually, it didn't materialize. Don't know what's the true reason but one thing is certain though, Canelo and his team made a point that he cannot really take on Makabu and expect their boxer to defeat Makabu in his division as adding extra weight will make a difference into Canelo's speed and power. We already proved that he cannot really defeat the guys in that weight class because he is already struggling in the light-heavy.

Money is not a problem because Canelo will be followed by that anywhere and in any weight class he chose, it's just that Canelo's chance in winning in cruiserweight is really low.

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Quote from: BitDane on August 11, 2022, 03:55:46 AM

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And I think it's all about the power, those guy are natural heavy, so heavy handed as well. It will be something in the catch weight but still it's not a sure thing for Canelo to win at Cruiserweight and yeah, probably the same result, going to be L for him with the big Makabu.

So now, let's just enjoy him and GGG next month, if he get passed GGG and win, let's see if he wanted to go to Light heavyweight again and go after Bivol for a rematch or stay in 168 lbs but there will be no challenges for him.

Well, there is no other way but to enjoy the upcoming fight of Canelo and GGG.

But, It would really a challenge for Canelo if he moves up to cruiserweight because of the weight and possible power disadvantage. Those at the heavier weight can receive much stronger punches so the ability of Canelo to knockdown his opponent will be tested if he moves up in weight division. Not because he is a Knock out artist in the lower weight means he will be the same when he climbs the weight. We have seen several boxers to have difficulty in knocking their opponent even though they are devastating in their previous weight division.

Either way, Canelo will look for some boxers to defeat in the upper-weight divisions as he might be bored already in his current division. Not sure though he can really defeat some boxers in the cruiserweight because we saw how he struggled in the light-heavy against Bivol, so what more in cruiser if he will indeed face Makabu or face Beterbiev in light-heavy.

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While Canelo is very eager to fight GGG and possibly end his career, its the other way around with Golovkin, he just treated it as another fight and Canelo as another fighter, and their fight as another one of his fights, he has no plan after the fight and admit he is already 40 and nearing retirement and if he losses it could be the end of his career, I don't know if this is just another strategy so Canelo can think that GGG is beatable now, though on is last fight there's no sign of slowing down.

https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-lets-face-it-im-40-years-old-nearing-my-retirement--168258

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 11, 2022, 07:13:35 AM

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I do think people are starting to realise that Cancelo isn't this unstoppable force now. Everyone talks about how his power is the best in the business, but I've never really seen it honestly. I've seen some decent amount of tactical thinking from him, but that's been when he has been losing the fight, which is great. However, his power is only slightly above average I'd say in his division. If like you say, he moves up he doesn't keep that power to weight ratio, he seems to lose a bit of it.

That's the thing, he was an undisputed champion in his division before and we didn't notice his power because he is not a strong starter, he is only a good finisher but sometimes his opponent can survive even if they lose the fight. With this fight against GGG, he has not hurt GGG yet but he won the last fight, so let's see if they can really hurt GGG and maybe KO him which IMO unlikely to happen.

He has not knock down GGG IIRC, but he was more active in the ring so the judges favored him to win, however, there are fans who think that he didn't win, there was a bias judging that's why GGG loses the fight, now is the time to end that speculation, he has to win impressively, KO or not.

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Quote from: Welsh on August 11, 2022, 05:34:43 AM

I do think people are starting to realise that Cancelo isn't this unstoppable force now. Everyone talks about how his power is the best in the business, but I've never really seen it honestly. I've seen some decent amount of tactical thinking from him, but that's been when he has been losing the fight, which is great. However, his power is only slightly above average I'd say in his division. If like you say, he moves up he doesn't keep that power to weight ratio, he seems to lose a bit of it.

That's the thing, he was an undisputed champion in his division before and we didn't notice his power because he is not a strong starter, he is only a good finisher but sometimes his opponent can survive even if they lose the fight. With this fight against GGG, he has not hurt GGG yet but he won the last fight, so let's see if they can really hurt GGG and maybe KO him which IMO unlikely to happen.

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 11, 2022, 05:30:19 AM

We don't need to see it, his lost to Bivol at LHW is already a indication that he swallow more than he could chew. So probably going up to CW will also be a disaster waiting to happen for him.

Definitely, his power can only bring that much as 160-168 lbs, he is very dominant and most likely that is his perfect weight. But above that 175 lbs and higher will be a different Canelo, he doesn't have the advantage that he has when he is in the middle to super middleweight.

I would be inclinded to agree with your later statement. Although, respect has to be given to Canelo for looking outside of his perfect weight class, which he would probably be dominant in, earn a tonne of money, without too many problems. It takes a decent amount of courage, to go somewhere you know there will be challenges, so while I'm not a Cancelo fan, he definitely gained respect for going to fight Bivol despite the loss. Also, Bivol is a class act from top to bottom. Probably one of the most difficult fighters to face, when you're moving up a division.

I do think people are starting to realise that Cancelo isn't this unstoppable force now. Everyone talks about how his power is the best in the business, but I've never really seen it honestly. I've seen some decent amount of tactical thinking from him, but that's been when he has been losing the fight, which is great. However, his power is only slightly above average I'd say in his division. If like you say, he moves up he doesn't keep that power to weight ratio, he seems to lose a bit of it.

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And I think it's all about the power, those guy are natural heavy, so heavy handed as well. It will be something in the catch weight but still it's not a sure thing for Canelo to win at Cruiserweight and yeah, probably the same result, going to be L for him with the big Makabu.

So now, let's just enjoy him and GGG next month, if he get passed GGG and win, let's see if he wanted to go to Light heavyweight again and go after Bivol for a rematch or stay in 168 lbs but there will be no challenges for him.

Well, there is no other way but to enjoy the upcoming fight of Canelo and GGG.

But, It would really a challenge for Canelo if he moves up to cruiserweight because of the weight and possible power disadvantage. Those at the heavier weight can receive much stronger punches so the ability of Canelo to knockdown his opponent will be tested if he moves up in weight division. Not because he is a Knock out artist in the lower weight means he will be the same when he climbs the weight. We have seen several boxers to have difficulty in knocking their opponent even though they are devastating in their previous weight division.

We don't need to see it, his lost to Bivol at LHW is already a indication that he swallow more than he could chew. So probably going up to CW will also be a disaster waiting to happen for him.

Definitely, his power can only bring that much as 160-168 lbs, he is very dominant and most likely that is his perfect weight. But above that 175 lbs and higher will be a different Canelo, he doesn't have the advantage that he has when he is in the middle to super middleweight.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 11, 2022, 03:45:28 AM

And I think it's all about the power, those guy are natural heavy, so heavy handed as well. It will be something in the catch weight but still it's not a sure thing for Canelo to win at Cruiserweight and yeah, probably the same result, going to be L for him with the big Makabu.

So now, let's just enjoy him and GGG next month, if he get passed GGG and win, let's see if he wanted to go to Light heavyweight again and go after Bivol for a rematch or stay in 168 lbs but there will be no challenges for him.

Well, there is no other way but to enjoy the upcoming fight of Canelo and GGG.

But, It would really a challenge for Canelo if he moves up to cruiserweight because of the weight and possible power disadvantage. Those at the heavier weight can receive much stronger punches so the ability of Canelo to knockdown his opponent will be tested if he moves up in weight division. Not because he is a Knock out artist in the lower weight means he will be the same when he climbs the weight. We have seen several boxers to have difficulty in knocking their opponent even though they are devastating in their previous weight division.

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Right, and just imagine him wanted to go as high as Cruiserweight and fight the champion at a catchweight and then Sulaiman readily agreed on it (because it's Canelo Alvarez). But then he settled on Light Heavyweight on Bivol. He could have taken Beterviev, but maybe he thinks that Bivol is the easier of the two, it really backfired on him. So he goes back to 168 lbs now and accepted the long overdue trilogy with GGG to bring his hype back.

Is this a joke? Canelo moving up to Cruiserweight? He already moved from 168 lbs to 175 lbs, to take on Bivol. But Cruiserweight is fucking 200 lbs (please correct me if I am wrong). That is going to be huge. Can anyone move from 175 lbs to 200 lbs in such short time? Even if he manages to do that, I am sure that boxers such as Arsen Goulamirian or Ilunga Makabu will smash him to pulp and thereby end his career. I don't know who is giving him all these crazy ideas. 168-175 lbs is fine for him. He should stay there.

This is probably the result of their thinking that since Canelo is already the king in 160-168 lbs, he needs to go higher and look for another kingdom to conquer. Well that's a normal way of thinking but they should have known better. This is proven by his match against Bivol. I think time's up for him to try going up against a strong opponent in 168-175. He could play in that division but only against smaller, weaker, and aging opponents. Cruiserweight shouldn't even be an option.

He wanted to chase more belts, becoming the first Mexican to have a belt in 5 different weight classes. And his first move to have that kind of feat is to as high Cruiserweight. And maybe they think that Ilunga Makabu is slow and easy meat for Canelo. But then they change their mind shot for a Bivol Light heavyweight fight for Bivol's belt but failed. But I do agree that perhaps above 168 lbs, Canelo might have a problem, although he shown it already when he fought Kovalev, he won, but it Kovalev was way past his prime already.

Had Canelo fought Makabu, they would have faced the same result. Bivol was as high as Makabu but not as heavy. Bivol was also slow but Makabu has longer reach. If Canelo failed against Bivol, he would have failed more against Makabu. But this is already water under the bridge now.

In the meantime, Canelo will have to face GGG and succeed before attempting to rise again and look for more challenging battles. I just hope that GGG will be in his hundred percent condition in the fight to give Canelo a run for his money.

And I think it's all about the power, those guy are natural heavy, so heavy handed as well. It will be something in the catch weight but still it's not a sure thing for Canelo to win at Cruiserweight and yeah, probably the same result, going to be L for him with the big Makabu.

So now, let's just enjoy him and GGG next month, if he get passed GGG and win, let's see if he wanted to go to Light heavyweight again and go after Bivol for a rematch or stay in 168 lbs but there will be no challenges for him.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on August 09, 2022, 11:53:50 PM

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Is this a joke? Canelo moving up to Cruiserweight? He already moved from 168 lbs to 175 lbs, to take on Bivol. But Cruiserweight is fucking 200 lbs (please correct me if I am wrong). That is going to be huge. Can anyone move from 175 lbs to 200 lbs in such short time? Even if he manages to do that, I am sure that boxers such as Arsen Goulamirian or Ilunga Makabu will smash him to pulp and thereby end his career. I don't know who is giving him all these crazy ideas. 168-175 lbs is fine for him. He should stay there.

This is probably the result of their thinking that since Canelo is already the king in 160-168 lbs, he needs to go higher and look for another kingdom to conquer. Well that's a normal way of thinking but they should have known better. This is proven by his match against Bivol. I think time's up for him to try going up against a strong opponent in 168-175. He could play in that division but only against smaller, weaker, and aging opponents. Cruiserweight shouldn't even be an option.

In this case what you're saying is true, but as @Sithara007 said Cruiserweight is still too high and there's no way he's going to be able to move that fast.
The fact is that there are still some strong boxers in his current class that he hasn't tried and maybe he hasn't even been able to beat, so why should he be so angry with wanting to move to a higher level.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 09, 2022, 10:54:33 PM

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Right, and just imagine him wanted to go as high as Cruiserweight and fight the champion at a catchweight and then Sulaiman readily agreed on it (because it's Canelo Alvarez). But then he settled on Light Heavyweight on Bivol. He could have taken Beterviev, but maybe he thinks that Bivol is the easier of the two, it really backfired on him. So he goes back to 168 lbs now and accepted the long overdue trilogy with GGG to bring his hype back.

Is this a joke? Canelo moving up to Cruiserweight? He already moved from 168 lbs to 175 lbs, to take on Bivol. But Cruiserweight is fucking 200 lbs (please correct me if I am wrong). That is going to be huge. Can anyone move from 175 lbs to 200 lbs in such short time? Even if he manages to do that, I am sure that boxers such as Arsen Goulamirian or Ilunga Makabu will smash him to pulp and thereby end his career. I don't know who is giving him all these crazy ideas. 168-175 lbs is fine for him. He should stay there.

This news made its way back in 2021. As far as I know Canelo even commented on this news.

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CANELO ALVAREZ admitted he was blindsided by the news he would move up to cruiserweight - and only found out on social media.

source: CRUISE CONTROL ‘I didn’t even know about that’ – Canelo Alvarez was blindsided by move to cruiserweight and found out on social media

But then, offers pile up for cruiserweight fight after that news. and later on Jan. 2022, another news comes up that weight problem cited as the reason for Canelo to move up to cruiserweight. If you think that moving up to cruiserweight is a joke then what do you think of the news[1] about heavyweight as one of the options for Canelo's title run?

[1] https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2022/07/23/canelo-heavyweight-six-weight-no-limits/

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Gennadiy Golovkin Needs A Knockout To Beat Canelo Alvarez Says Shawn Porter

Shawn Porter is concerned about GGG's age saying he's not the same as before. That make sense though but that analysis is an obvious one and for me, age can't really considered as a hindrance and really a disadvantage for GGG.

Not stated in the article but I think his conclusion is, there's no way GGG can beat Canelo if the fight will end up in Decision just like the previous results of their fights where it ended up Draw and 1 win for Canelo. The judges might side with Canelo especially if their fight won't be the same as how Canelo-Bivol fight goes where the viewers see that Canelo is really struggling against Bivol.

Either way, I hope that we can see an explosive performance by GGG on this trilogy and don't allow Canelo to have an easy win.

It's easy said that done, he pointed out the version of GGG 2010-2012 could possibly beat this version of Canelo. And Porter stress out that age factor, that he can't move as he used to be and that he needs to be smart and not throw everything with power.

He mentioned about Bivol's strategy, 1-2-3, if Canelo can dodge the first two shots, then perhaps the 3rd or even 4th shot will hit the target. So its a question on whether GGG can do that, becoming a combination fighter of 1-4 shots in bunch and hope that at least one will land solidly and who knows, it can knock down Canelo or knock him out for good.

It's a risk with proper coordination with the supply power that he will throw, we know how strong Canelo and how he can accept punches and simply stand still even a hardiest one landed to his face, though we really can't tell if GGG may able to land solid combo and knock down Canelo or vice versa.

When you aggressively try knocking your opponents off, you also leave and open to yourself. It's possible that a counter combinations
will land in your weak spot and knock you down.

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We do not know his weight between fights. Maybe he is 190 in everyday life, due to training and camp he burns extra lbs without special cutting to fit in middleweight. As we are in topic Canelo vs GGG, I would say that Canelo does not look small. He is not as tall as GGG, but I cant say he is little; in the fight against Bivol he looked huge. But I agree that going to cruiserweight is a suicide. There, guys only on a weight-ins day are 200lbs, during the fight they are heavier. Speed wont help Canelo in cruiserweight, there, guys are fast also.

The argument that Canelo weighs less during the weight in, and more during the fight is applicable for the Cruiserweight boxers as well. On average, there will be a 25 to 30 lbs difference between Canelo (at this point) and someone like Ilunga Makabu or Jai Opetaia. So Canelo needs to add 10-12 kgs of mass before he ventures to Cruiserweight. I don't know much about this, but can it be done safely within 5-6 months? And I have seen fights involving Makabu and Okolie. They are as fast as anyone in the Light heavyweight division. Canelo won't be having any added advantage.

I think it was early this year when the WBC approved Canelo to jump in the cruiserweight and fights WBC champ Ilunga Makabu. It didn't materialized though, maybe there is no money in a Makabu fight or the Canelo team thought it was too big for them.

Yes Canelo is not tall and he also does not have a huge frame but he is damn heavy and solid. 5-6 months should be enough for Canelo to acclimatize in cruiserweight although he cannot stay there for long. Maybe a mission to win a title and when done, he needs to move down once again. Canelo's speed might be enough to outpoint the champions there but the problem is he's got enough power to earn their respect. Otherwise, those cruiser champs will become aggressive and can seriously hurt Canelo, especially WBC champ Makabu.

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Right, and just imagine him wanted to go as high as Cruiserweight and fight the champion at a catchweight and then Sulaiman readily agreed on it (because it's Canelo Alvarez). But then he settled on Light Heavyweight on Bivol. He could have taken Beterviev, but maybe he thinks that Bivol is the easier of the two, it really backfired on him. So he goes back to 168 lbs now and accepted the long overdue trilogy with GGG to bring his hype back.

Is this a joke? Canelo moving up to Cruiserweight? He already moved from 168 lbs to 175 lbs, to take on Bivol. But Cruiserweight is fucking 200 lbs (please correct me if I am wrong). That is going to be huge. Can anyone move from 175 lbs to 200 lbs in such short time? Even if he manages to do that, I am sure that boxers such as Arsen Goulamirian or Ilunga Makabu will smash him to pulp and thereby end his career. I don't know who is giving him all these crazy ideas. 168-175 lbs is fine for him. He should stay there.

This is probably the result of their thinking that since Canelo is already the king in 160-168 lbs, he needs to go higher and look for another kingdom to conquer. Well that's a normal way of thinking but they should have known better. This is proven by his match against Bivol. I think time's up for him to try going up against a strong opponent in 168-175. He could play in that division but only against smaller, weaker, and aging opponents. Cruiserweight shouldn't even be an option.

He wanted to chase more belts, becoming the first Mexican to have a belt in 5 different weight classes. And his first move to have that kind of feat is to as high Cruiserweight. And maybe they think that Ilunga Makabu is slow and easy meat for Canelo. But then they change their mind shot for a Bivol Light heavyweight fight for Bivol's belt but failed. But I do agree that perhaps above 168 lbs, Canelo might have a problem, although he shown it already when he fought Kovalev, he won, but it Kovalev was way past his prime already.

Had Canelo fought Makabu, they would have faced the same result. Bivol was as high as Makabu but not as heavy. Bivol was also slow but Makabu has longer reach. If Canelo failed against Bivol, he would have failed more against Makabu. But this is already water under the bridge now.

In the meantime, Canelo will have to face GGG and succeed before attempting to rise again and look for more challenging battles. I just hope that GGG will be in his hundred percent condition in the fight to give Canelo a run for his money.

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