Topic: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (September 17) - page 22. (Read 8920 times)

Yes, that will be the smart move, 160/168 lbs might be suitable for him for now, as there are no fighter in that division that can bring Canelo more millions. 175 is very different, Bivol as we saw how Canelo got destroyed and then Beterviev, another one of those champions that is very big for Canelo and has a bigger puncher power than Bivol. Maybe he will let this two fight first and the winner will be Canelo's target for the belt and obviously it's for the money.

the previous fights will be a good motivation for GGG to defeat Canelo fair and square. i can understand why a lot of users here are favouring GGG. so this upcoming fight is indeed interesting. even bookies are favouring Canelo. so the challenge is on GGG if he wants to retire from boxing a winner one last time. it is also good to place a bet in other betting lines if you want to explore your chances as the odds are good.

Beterbiev is a big deal. Canelo will just be a punching bag for this guy. Bivol is even much smaller in terms of overall firepower compare to Beterbiev. If Canelo becomes a kid facing Bivol, how much more against Beterbiev? Canelo is not yet ready to face champions at those levels but if he will challenge instead those on rankings before the Champion, that's a good start although it's not a title match and promoters always want a big fight to Canelo as their cash cow.

I hope this trilogy will not end up AGAIN with a controversial result. Close scores really always end up controversial.

That's why if this trilogy will end up in a Decision, GGG needs to be clear dominant at most rounds in order for judges to be fair and square. It's because of the speculation that judges always favor Canelo. Remember during their first fight where it ended up on a DRAW, one of the judges there scores 118-110 in favor of Canelo. That is controversial as the other judges' scores, 113-115 and 114-114, are not even close to that first announced score.

In their rematch, the score card is also close that also got questioned by most boxing enthusiasts.

There's also speculation that if Bivol, even a clear winner in that fight against Canelo, but the overall match were close, judges might favor Canelo to win that fight.

Yeah, and even at a catch weight, of around 190 lbs, it will be too much on Canelo's frame as he is not a natural bigger guy and we've seen him a career best at 168 lbs, destroying everyone at his path and claiming all the belts. But when he decided to go 175 lbs, it's a very different story, it seems his power is gone as it has no effect on Bivol and slow and he seems to be gassing out in the latter round.

Because he already succeeded in his comfort zone. The time now to move up! Nothing wrong to test it.

He will surely experience a struggle since that's a new challenge for him. Might experience several losses and possibly destroy his fame. But that was part of the process. It's not that he will be successful right away if ever he will attempt to dominate the Cruiserweight. One step at a time until he will use on fighting at that division.

Let's just watch him. We don't know if he will fail or not until he tries. The defeat from Bivol should wake up him to become a better boxer. Winning against GGG in this upcoming fight should also be treated as a serious match for him and do his best to win.

If you have really summed up many things in your publication, of course both boxers are exceptional, but you have to see the desire that GGG has, because so many times they have wanted to see these two in a good rematch that GGG is not going to want to give him anything to Canelo, and less for the performances that Canelo has had lately, GGG cannot afford to lose to a rival that is so iconic, however Caanelo's preparation must be top level, because he will want to kill these series of rematches and win opponents who are much stronger and that his reputation refloats again. I think this is one of the reasons why Canelo has to win.

I also consider that 160-170 pounds is the most appropriate for Canelo, I think that more weight for Canelo could not have the same effect, since he does not dominate that weight, and even though his punches would be very accurate, I think that the other boxers would have more opportunity than him, this is something that is very relevant in terms of the mood, any boxer would want to have a match with him to defeat him, this is something that should not be denied and it is not because Canelo is losing his ability, but because there are boxers who I see that they are more hungry to win and more hungry for victories, Canelo is imperative that he start winning fights.

Can't even imagine Canelo weighing 200 pounds just to get a fight with some boxers in cruiserweight, for sure he'd struggle more than he could imagine because guys there are much more natural compared to him who's just jacked up just to get the weight. I agree that 160 lbs. and 168 lbs. are much more suitable for him, he got to maintain his status in that division because there will be boxers in the future who will try to get one of his belts.

Right, I'm also curious who will be that 3rd boxer be that Canelo has to fight this year or in the 1st quarter next year. But it's too early to tell and make some speculation about that as Canelo is in a bad situation recently, and he surely want to win this fight because he cannot afford what will happen to his career if he will have a back to back loss. This trilogy is a must win for Canelo but it's also a must win for GGG to tie the score of their long standing rivalry. Let's see about that next month.

The result could be different if Canelo did not obviously lose the fight, if it was close then it might resulted into a split decision giving Canelo the "W", and that would make his name hyped more in the sports of boxing, good thing Bivol did not allow that to happen and clearly dominated Canelo.

The loss to Bivol was not as simple as it sounds. I watched the highlights and at the most Canelo won a maximum of 2-3 rounds (out of 12). The scorecard didn't reflected what happened on the ring, because the judges were biased towards Canelo (similar to what happened during Canelo vs GGG). Bivol just smashed Canelo to pulp and completely dominated the match. If Canelo still feels confident about this weight class, then he can set up a rematch with Bivol. A more intelligent option would be to remain at 160/168.

Cruiserweight is to much for Canelo. Not only boxers there are heavier and stronger, but they are often taller. He would have to go to close distance to have any success, but his face will be smashed with heavy jabs all the time. Besides, he has only two fights in light heavy. A loss to Bivol, and a victory over Kovalev, who seems to be selling his belt for several millions, instead of boxing, plus he was not in his prime already. Light weight has still bunch of good opponents for Canelo, if he finds middleweight or super middle weight boring or empty for him.

Yes, after this trilogy, Canelo's camp may explore to which division he wanted to bring his greatness. He needs to take care

of this upcoming fight first, as he needs to re-claim his name after that defeat for Bivol. They might be taking that road once

the fight was already done. If he concludes this rivalry in winning this upcoming fight. There are many options as Canelo is still in his

prime, he can choose what direction for his career and for more flowing money inside his pocket.

Middle East is more suitable because it is a neutral place to fight for the both boxers rather than fighting again in American soil where Bivol might face the same situation he had in their first encounter.

But a cruiserweight fight for Canelo might be too much for him as we already saw his performance in light-heavy, I mean what's more if he will fight in cruiserweight? He might be strong but his moves will be much calculated by his foes as he won't be that fast enough in cruiserweight. Anyway, let's see Canelo's decision after this trilogy.

Right, let's just accept the reality that Canelo has more chances to win in this fight but that doesn't mean that he will be the one to be held as the winner of this trilogy because GGG can still fight and give Canelo a hard time. Either way, Canelo will still have to face other boxers because this won't be the end game of his career. Also, there is still this unknown boxer that Canelo will have to face this year or early 2023 because as far as I remember, it was written in the contract that Canelo will fight Bivol, GGG and the 3rd unknown boxer.

This article just comes out today Callum Smith is predicting that Canelo will beat Golovkin in a one-sided match and he even accused Canelo of waiting for Golovkin to age before meeting him.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/08/callum-smith-picking-canelo-to-trounce-golovkin/

Callum has a point here, Canelo knows that their trilogy is going to happen and he wants it to happen as a rebound for his second loss, but the biggest question is what if Golovkin is fully aware of Canelo's intention and he trains and fights him differently, and what if Golovkin beat Canelo then he will lose his value in the boxing community and from there it would be a very hard climb.

That would be another hype, however, I think Canelo will experience his 2nd losses on the higher division as certainly cannot bring his speed and power as evidenced by his fight against Bivol, or if he wants to avenge his loss, he can go for a rematch with Bivol after beating GGG, if that expectation will happen.

Yes mate, a Beterviev match is really a good option for Canelo. But I would say that Beteviev has more punching power than Bivol and he could be a great threat to Canelo at 175 lbs so it's a big risk for him.


I guess it depends on how boxers are build, definitely one can go up in weight if his body can no longer squeeze the weight limit for a certain fight. But in this case, from 154 lbs to 175 lbs could be too much even for Canelo, he is not that tall to carry a weight of around 175 lbs. And then the speed, we can see that Bivol who is a natural LW as of this time was very comfortable and fast as compare to Canelo wherein he tends to be sluggish and slow and maybe this could be attributed to his body not used to carry that extra weight when fighting.

Beterbiev then can be a good option for Canelo. Right now Beterbiev has Canadian citizenship. Lives in Canada. So there will be no problems with sanctions, licenses, visa and etc. Beterbiev has belts, ranked 2 in lightheavy and is a knockout master. That could be a good fight for fans, and perhaps for Canelo legacy.

About comfortable 168lbs and 175 lbs. I am far from professional sports, but does it really make such a big difference for pro athletes? We dont need to go far, Usyk vs AJ was an example that less heavy but more technician boxer looked better.

Possible but what if rich nations Saudi Arabia offers big money for Canelo to fight there? He could be getting up front money but just showing in the gate and as you have said, he is the cash cow so definitely he could demand the money and if the Saudi organizers can afford that then definitely it's worth a try for him. They can still have the PPV just like in the AJ vs Usyk match, although the time difference could be a big factor.