Topic: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (September 17) - page 28. (Read 8920 times)

Same here, I pick Canelo because he have beaten GGG for two times and at the same time I think the trilogy wouldn't be biased if GGG won in the first fight as GGG clearly won for almost people view expect the judges and Canelo's family.

Honestly the odds for Canelo 1.28x isn't bad since most of his fight, his odds is really low as below 1.10x, even for small bettors it's still profitable.

I'd say in boxing, upset is high likely wouldn't happen, it's different with the other sports.

He always looks in shape and very calm in the press conference. As compare to Canelo who seems to be as you have said, still disturbed by the lost he suffered from the hands of Bivol.

A KO win might be out out of the picture, maybe a small chance to happen. Both have good defense and chin as well that's why they are very hard to KO.

The issue of boxing judges being biased is very common. I don't think they are scared of being bashed by the boxing community. I think they are receiving a lot of money and other gifts once they rigged a fight in favor of the cash cow or the superstar or the hometown fighter or the promoter's fighter or the A-side fighter. And they are probably more scared if their scores favor a nobody, especially in a close fight because chances are they will be avoided the next time.

It's always the A-side, the cash cows, the influential promoters, the superstars, and the hometown fighters that dictate boxing events. State boxing commissions especially in Texas are very corrupt and boxing sanctioning organizations, especially the WBA and WBC are prone to corruption too, favoring money over honor. I think the mafia or the underground movement also has to do with this. Canelo clearly lost against the superstar Floyd Mayweather but still got a draw on 1 judge scorecard. I haven't scored the Canelo-Lara fight but I hear a lot of hardcore boxing fans say the latter was robbed. I scored the Canelo-Bivol fight and there's no way the former won five rounds.

Although I picked Canelo by KO in the survey, my heart is with GGG as always. I just always follow my head rather than my heart when it comes to betting and predicting. I will have no bet in this fight so I would be happy if my prediction fails.

Yes as per betting odds Canelo is a huge favorite.

But as far as the community goes, GGG for us all the way. I mean the way they rob him on the first fight, while on the second fight, it could go in favor of him as well. It's that we tired of GGG getting robbed by Canelo so hopefully he can win it, in whichever way. If might be very difficult, but at least the choice of judges should be very fair and not bias.

Yeah, he is favored here but on the betting odds, it's Canelo who is the heavy favorite, and betting odds are more reliable than our poll here, but who knows, we might be right with our prediction, and that would also mean we will win good money as the odds are high for GGG.

https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/canelo-golovkin-3-odds-go-live/

LOL.. did anyone checked the polls on this thread recently? Golovkin is favored by such a huge margin (almost 3:1). Despite his age, I am sure that this fight is going to be very competitive. Canelo is still reeling from his loss against Bivol. Golovkin on the other hand is in good momentum. Even during his press meets, Golovkin looks to be in very good shape. To be frank, I am not expecting a KO. Both the fighters do have very good defenses and it is almost impossible to knock them out. The result may be decided by the jury.

That will be the end of this trilogy, if we see either one of them scoring a knock out victory, sealing this epic fight and could be one of the best in recent memories if it live up the hype. My perfect scenario is that GGG scoring a knock down early, and then Canelo coming back to score one as well. And then they go at it at the championship round, mano-a-mano. And then come the last round, either one to score a devastating knockout and the one in the canvass can't get up and finished the fight.

But if you checked the poll here GGG has a very wide lead I have this feeling that this is going to be the fight of the year and possibly end the trilogy by one of them knocking the other out, it's very unlikely to see GGG getting knock out or even Canelo but if there's one fighter capable of bringing it to reality on both fighters it's between one of them over the other.
Both fighters are good at seeking the opportunity in knocking out their opponents and they really hate each other much more in their first two fights so expect fireworks this time.

The corruption of judges is embedded in the history of sports especially boxing.  I watched some videos about the controversy card of Judge Adalaide Byrd on the first fight  of GGG and Canelo,(110-118) in favor of Canelo.  I wonder how much money Adalaide Byrd received from that fight, or probably she has hots on Canelo since one of the comments on the video

Well probably they wanted the controversy with a clear ending, so they aim for knockouts but the thing is, it would be harder than what they thought because they are both tough fighters.

But on this trilogy then i could say that this would be on Canelo.Age is a big factor specially on GGG and we've seen even though he had still some power and guts on its recent fight against Murata

but we can really say that this is something will really be not enough on the current prime Canelo but lets see if GGG would able to make some good show and if he would pull out some win

then i wont really be shocked but its less likely to happen yet we arent that dumb to notice or see the differences.

As the proverbial saying goes "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me". I guess everyone's eye is on the judges in the 3rd fight. They can't messed this one as bad as the 1st and 2nd fight because it is a disgrace to the sports. And it will just show how corrupt the sports up to this day if they didn't get the correct winner in the trilogy.

But both said that they are going to take out the judges in the equation. So there is a knock out ambitions from this two fighters and hopefully this is what we are going to see in the 3rd fight.

That is already anticipated because Canelo has a lot of connections so that he will have the judge's favor if in case the result of the fight will reach the judge's hands. Those two fights are quite biased especially the second one because one of the three judges is saying that the fight would still result in a draw and not in favor of Canelo because he didn't dominate every round. Recently, they tried to help Canelo against Bivol too but the gap is too wide and was clear that Bivol should retain his belt because if Canelo will win that specific fight, for sure the judges will torched by issues.

As much as a fan of Canelo that I am, I really cannot condone bias, especially from people with a position of power and responsibility like actual judges. They have already damaged their reputation far enough for me to distrust them completely. If anything this is why a large amount of people in the gambling world believe that even big fights like this are rigged. And the more I see unfair bias, the more I have to agree with them on that assessment.

I hope things start changing soon because the judges really ruin the fight for everyone. I find myself losing interest in whatever fight they have a say in.

The judges are already under fire, for their bias towards Canelo during the first two fights against Golovkin, and during Canelo's fight against Bivol. Do you really believe that they will risk their reputation again by showing naked bias towards Canelo? That would infuriate a lot of fans out there. And although I understand that a second consecutive defeat for Canelo can cause huge losses to the American boxing syndicates, the solution is not to rig the scorecard. Trust me, that will have just the opposite impact of what is desired by them.

Teddy Atlas expressed his opinion in his podcast about the second Canelo-GGG fight and the upcoming rematch, indeed, as he believes that "the old lion can roar for the last time" and it is obvious that the victory of GGG can only provide a clear advantage that does not cause doubt among the judges and here, it seems to me, Golovkin can only count on KO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyHI95xEqF0

Same here, I'm also rooting for GGG to win because he too deserves to win at least once in this series fight they had but that will really depend in this situation as Canelo is currently at the peak of his prime who is also determined not to have a back-to-back defeat. GGG might be aging though but we saw that his body can still withstand heavy punches as well as his chin, but let's see this October soon.

That's given, the speculation is everywhere but we have no proof about that, and if GGG believe that is the case, then no way he will win if he cannot knock out Canelo. Everyone is probably cheering to win, so let's see if this trilogy is a great opportunity for GGG to rise and reclaim himself.

I think he knows that even in the first fight that's why he started very strong winning some early rounds. But Canelo adjusted and that should be enough for the judges to half the fight in draw. GGG pushes himself but we really don't know if Canelo did enough in the 2nd half of the fight to even merit that score from the judges. Same in the 2nd fight, Canelo is really fighting very hard and that fight could go either way, but judges still favor the cash cow Canelo and there are speculations inside that the judges did really favor Canelo to win to continue his rise to the top.

We all know that from the last past fight between these two and for sure GGG and his camp will try to win with

exclamation point. I mean, if he can KO Alvarez, he will really push in doing that, but for sure it won't be easy as Canelo is the
top champ from this division and it will not be easy to put him down. GGG needs to find that lucky combination to bring him down
and make sure that he will have a good edge in front of the fans and all the judges.

Regardless of his performance, if he will not win in this fight then for sure we will not anymore see another fight. Though GGG might retire but since he didn't mentioned that, then we cannot expect that he will not fight after this fight. The best chance for him to still have a fight is if he will win against Canelo, yes, that's 2 consecutive losses of Canelo but he is not unbeatable so he could lose here.