[Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (September 17) - page 24.

TopTort777

legendary

Activity: 2478

Merit: 1492

Quote from: Sithara007 on August 15, 2022, 09:51:53 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on August 15, 2022, 06:52:25 PM

https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-canelos-achieved-lot-there-questions-on-how-he-what-he--168354

I think this esteemed from Canelo being tested positive banned substance clenbuterol on 2 occasions. But he blamed it to the tainted meat he consumed in Mexico. This is prior to their first fight in May 2018.

Although a lot of Mexican boxers have been tested positive as well with Clen due to meat consumption as well.

Well.. you need to admit that in the world of sports, there are two set of rules. One rule for the Americans, and another one for the non-Americans. If Golovkin had tested positive for Clenbuterol, then he will be banned for life, with no questions asked and no possibility for appeal. In case of Canelo, since he is an American he managed to get away. And this happens very regularly. Remember Maria Sharapova getting banned for Meldonium, while Simone Biles was let off despite her positive test for Methylphenidate claiming that she used that drug as ADHD medication?

Of course no one would ban Canelo, even if he inject himself during weigh-ins, because he is a milking cow of boxing. Of course Canelo is taking some "extra medicine". Look at his body during his first fight against GGG, and against Plant. Skinny vs tiny bull, but the guy is in same weight class and those few lbs difference cant change body so much. Anyway, even if Canelo would be caught with something in him, GGG would still give him a good fight and competition.

Pamadar

legendary

Activity: 2982

Merit: 1028

Quote from: AmoreJaz on August 15, 2022, 04:39:30 PM

Quote from: Pamadar on August 14, 2022, 08:44:26 AM

Quote from: Japinat on August 13, 2022, 01:42:06 PM

I quite remember that almost nobody, including me, thought that Bivol can really defeat and upset Canelo who is the heavy favorite at that time because we know that Canelo has already defeated one boxer in light-heavy. We also made some speculations that Bivol is kind of unfocused because his family was left in Russia when the war broke out. But Bivol proved to us that he can still successfully defend his belt given the situation he's on.

Sooner or later, Canelo and Bivol will again face each other for a rematch because super-middle is a kind of boring division to Canelo as he's already undisputed at the said division.

Very possible, he (Canelo) will collect his paycheck first from this division after facing GGG,

He already understands that fame will be followed by lots of money. He will be using his fame now just like the way
Mayweather did before retiring.

My point is Canelo and his camp will explore again after this fight and like how you predicting things, I agree that sooner
or later, he might be asking for a rematch against Bivol.

but for now, i want to see how will canelo perform opposite GGG. if in case he will lose from this fight, it is not the end of his boxing career. he may really ask for the re-match with bivol. as he already knew the power of bivol, he should know how to prepare for this fight to redeem himself, if he can really defeat bivol this time around. anyway, am looking forward for canelo and GGG's match. canelo is still the favourite here though.

Indeed, he is still the favorite as ore fans believes that Canelo can still beat GGG.

Bookies still favoring Canelo as they used in each fight that he has ever since he beat GGG, it's a good preparation
to bring the hype back and redeem himself after that defeat by Bivol.

He can use moving back to that same division and call for the rematch or he can explore for other options that he has
while he is still young and in his prime age.

Oasisman

hero member

Activity: 2716

Merit: 552

Quote from: harizen on August 15, 2022, 06:56:39 PM

Quote from: Japinat on August 13, 2022, 01:42:06 PM

Sooner or later, Canelo and Bivol will again face each other for a rematch because super-middle is a kind of boring division to Canelo as he's already undisputed at the said division.

Yes, Bivol and Canelo might face in the rematch. However, Bivol makes it clear that if that's not a title match, he will ignore Canelo.

Bivol's next target is another title and probably against Beterviev.

Canelo really needs tons of improvement to challenge these champions.

Well, there's a rumor that it might happen in May next year 2023 as team Canelo is eager to avenge his recent loss to Bivol. While team Bivol is already working to make the rematch happen in the said date. Rumors said Bivol would want this to happen as well as it will generate more money since the boxing fans loves to see redemption matches.
Let's see what happens next year.

Sithara007

legendary

Activity: 3346

Merit: 1352

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Baofeng on August 15, 2022, 06:52:25 PM

https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-canelos-achieved-lot-there-questions-on-how-he-what-he--168354

I think this esteemed from Canelo being tested positive banned substance clenbuterol on 2 occasions. But he blamed it to the tainted meat he consumed in Mexico. This is prior to their first fight in May 2018.

Although a lot of Mexican boxers have been tested positive as well with Clen due to meat consumption as well.

Well.. you need to admit that in the world of sports, there are two set of rules. One rule for the Americans, and another one for the non-Americans. If Golovkin had tested positive for Clenbuterol, then he will be banned for life, with no questions asked and no possibility for appeal. In case of Canelo, since he is an American he managed to get away. And this happens very regularly. Remember Maria Sharapova getting banned for Meldonium, while Simone Biles was let off despite her positive test for Methylphenidate claiming that she used that drug as ADHD medication?

TravelMug

hero member

Activity: 2632

Merit: 833

Quote from: harizen on August 15, 2022, 06:56:39 PM

Quote from: Japinat on August 13, 2022, 01:42:06 PM

Sooner or later, Canelo and Bivol will again face each other for a rematch because super-middle is a kind of boring division to Canelo as he's already undisputed at the said division.

Yes, Bivol and Canelo might face in the rematch. However, Bivol makes it clear that if that's not a title match, he will ignore Canelo.

Bivol's next target is another title and probably against Beterviev.

Canelo really needs tons of improvement to challenge these champions.

I want Canelo to test Beterviev next, that will be a great fight if ever he wins against GGG here. But it looks like he wanted to avenge his defeat to Bivol but let's see.

This fight is just a month away, for sure either GGG or Canelo will go to the public more for an interview to hype the fight. Let's see what's Canelo response with regards to GGG insinuation that he uses PED during their first fight.

harizen

legendary

Activity: 3122

Merit: 1398

For support ➡️ help.bc.game

Quote from: Japinat on August 13, 2022, 01:42:06 PM

Sooner or later, Canelo and Bivol will again face each other for a rematch because super-middle is a kind of boring division to Canelo as he's already undisputed at the said division.

Yes, Bivol and Canelo might face in the rematch. However, Bivol makes it clear that if that's not a title match, he will ignore Canelo.

Bivol's next target is another title and probably against Beterviev.

Canelo really needs tons of improvement to challenge these champions.

Baofeng

legendary

Activity: 2576

Merit: 1655

And Canelo firing at all cylinder:

Quote

“But there are some other questions about how he did that and what he used. I did not say something just because I just came up with it. There are lab results. The doctor said that there were the results of water testing. And when asked, I said, ‘Yes, I believe that he cheated.’ And if somebody in his team didn’t like my words, I believe it’s their problem.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-canelos-achieved-lot-there-questions-on-how-he-what-he--168354

I think this esteemed from Canelo being tested positive banned substance clenbuterol on 2 occasions. But he blamed it to the tainted meat he consumed in Mexico. This is prior to their first fight in May 2018.

Although a lot of Mexican boxers have been tested positive as well with Clen due to meat consumption as well.

Ziskinberg

hero member

Activity: 3010

Merit: 666

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on August 13, 2022, 04:14:38 PM

Quote from: Japinat on August 13, 2022, 01:42:06 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on August 13, 2022, 10:49:31 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on August 13, 2022, 10:27:56 AM

Yeah, I'm also curious why Canelo looks slower than Bivol while most of Canelo's fights we're saw Canelo is very fast with his head movement. IMO 7 pounds aren't that huge, but we're seeing it's otherwise. I think it's because the boxers in light heavyweight division are greater than the boxers in super middleweight division at the current era. But Canelo would need to face Bivol again in the near future since no one can compete Canelo beside GGG in his current division.

It's just that Dmitry Bivol was able to limit Canelo's supposed potential. With how Bivol is able to corner Canelo most of the time, the latter becomes irritable and that leads him to destroy his own will to focus on the fight. Bivol successfully landed lots of punches making Canelo a punching bag. Because of that, Canelo feels disappointed and the result is, he feels he can't able to match Bivol's strategy.

Why you are curious that Canelo looks slower in that fight, remember that Bivol is not even fast. But with the right strategy by him, he was able to beat the heavy favorite which is Canelo, and him being the underdog wins the fight.

I quite remember that almost nobody, including me, thought that Bivol can really defeat and upset Canelo who is the heavy favorite at that time because we know that Canelo has already defeated one boxer in light-heavy. We also made some speculations that Bivol is kind of unfocused because his family was left in Russia when the war broke out. But Bivol proved to us that he can still successfully defend his belt given the situation he's on.

And Canelo is unstoppable at that point, he clean up the super MW division very easy, almost knocking down all the champions. That's how great Canelo is prior to Bivol fight. And then he moves up, and I will admit that I haven't follow the light-heavy but have heard Bivol and Beterviev's name as they are the champion in that division.

Who could've thought that something like that would happen to Canelo who is also seating at the height of his prime years, but yes, upsets are always possible in every fight even if you are the heavy favorite. For Canelo's case at that time, Bivol outsmarted him and fought well because the latter used every advantage he got over Canelo who is just there to take his belt.

Quote

...and I will admit that I haven't follow the light-heavy but have heard Bivol and Beterviev's name as they are the champion in that division.

Yes, Bivol has the WBA belt while Beterbiev has the rest and if an undisputed fight will happen in that weight class, for sure it will be really exciting and fun to see because these two boxers are really good, especially the latter who has a flawless 18-0 record and by the way, he won that 18 by way of KO/TKO.

AmoreJaz

legendary

Activity: 3122

Merit: 1102

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Pamadar on August 14, 2022, 08:44:26 AM

Quote from: Japinat on August 13, 2022, 01:42:06 PM

I quite remember that almost nobody, including me, thought that Bivol can really defeat and upset Canelo who is the heavy favorite at that time because we know that Canelo has already defeated one boxer in light-heavy. We also made some speculations that Bivol is kind of unfocused because his family was left in Russia when the war broke out. But Bivol proved to us that he can still successfully defend his belt given the situation he's on.

Sooner or later, Canelo and Bivol will again face each other for a rematch because super-middle is a kind of boring division to Canelo as he's already undisputed at the said division.

Very possible, he (Canelo) will collect his paycheck first from this division after facing GGG,

He already understands that fame will be followed by lots of money. He will be using his fame now just like the way
Mayweather did before retiring.

My point is Canelo and his camp will explore again after this fight and like how you predicting things, I agree that sooner
or later, he might be asking for a rematch against Bivol.

but for now, i want to see how will canelo perform opposite GGG. if in case he will lose from this fight, it is not the end of his boxing career. he may really ask for the re-match with bivol. as he already knew the power of bivol, he should know how to prepare for this fight to redeem himself, if he can really defeat bivol this time around. anyway, am looking forward for canelo and GGG's match. canelo is still the favourite here though.

Japinat

hero member

Activity: 3052

Merit: 685

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on August 13, 2022, 04:14:38 PM

Quote from: Japinat on August 13, 2022, 01:42:06 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on August 13, 2022, 10:49:31 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on August 13, 2022, 10:27:56 AM

Yeah, I'm also curious why Canelo looks slower than Bivol while most of Canelo's fights we're saw Canelo is very fast with his head movement. IMO 7 pounds aren't that huge, but we're seeing it's otherwise. I think it's because the boxers in light heavyweight division are greater than the boxers in super middleweight division at the current era. But Canelo would need to face Bivol again in the near future since no one can compete Canelo beside GGG in his current division.

It's just that Dmitry Bivol was able to limit Canelo's supposed potential. With how Bivol is able to corner Canelo most of the time, the latter becomes irritable and that leads him to destroy his own will to focus on the fight. Bivol successfully landed lots of punches making Canelo a punching bag. Because of that, Canelo feels disappointed and the result is, he feels he can't able to match Bivol's strategy.

Why you are curious that Canelo looks slower in that fight, remember that Bivol is not even fast. But with the right strategy by him, he was able to beat the heavy favorite which is Canelo, and him being the underdog wins the fight.

I quite remember that almost nobody, including me, thought that Bivol can really defeat and upset Canelo who is the heavy favorite at that time because we know that Canelo has already defeated one boxer in light-heavy. We also made some speculations that Bivol is kind of unfocused because his family was left in Russia when the war broke out. But Bivol proved to us that he can still successfully defend his belt given the situation he's on.

And Canelo is unstoppable at that point, he clean up the super MW division very easy, almost knocking down all the champions. That's how great Canelo is prior to Bivol fight. And then he moves up, and I will admit that I haven't follow the light-heavy but have heard Bivol and Beterviev's name as they are the champion in that division.

Quote from: Japinat on August 13, 2022, 01:42:06 PM

Sooner or later, Canelo and Bivol will again face each other for a rematch because super-middle is a kind of boring division to Canelo as he's already undisputed at the said division.

Yes, but he need to defeat his opponent right now in GGG and close their story. And then perhaps he will challenge Bivol at light-heavy again to avenge his defeat.

Indeed! Canelo was kind of heavy to defeat or upset at that point that's why it's really hard for almost all of us to look forward in Bivol's favor and even Canelo didn't expected that to happen, we saw how upset and irritated he was.

Well, he first fought Sergey Kovalev in LHW and collect the WBO title after he defeated Kovalev by way of KO before it reached to round 12 but decided to vacate the title afterwards because Canelo decided to move down in weight to chase the undisputed title in SMW.

Now, Canelo should just forget in the meantime that he lost to Bivol in upper weight to focus as he needed to close his chapter against Golovkin for the 3rd time because Golovkin is not an easy opponent even if he is already aging in 40's.

Pamadar

legendary

Activity: 2982

Merit: 1028

Quote from: Japinat on August 13, 2022, 01:42:06 PM

I quite remember that almost nobody, including me, thought that Bivol can really defeat and upset Canelo who is the heavy favorite at that time because we know that Canelo has already defeated one boxer in light-heavy. We also made some speculations that Bivol is kind of unfocused because his family was left in Russia when the war broke out. But Bivol proved to us that he can still successfully defend his belt given the situation he's on.

Sooner or later, Canelo and Bivol will again face each other for a rematch because super-middle is a kind of boring division to Canelo as he's already undisputed at the said division.

Very possible, he (Canelo) will collect his paycheck first from this division after facing GGG,

He already understands that fame will be followed by lots of money. He will be using his fame now just like the way
Mayweather did before retiring.

My point is Canelo and his camp will explore again after this fight and like how you predicting things, I agree that sooner
or later, he might be asking for a rematch against Bivol.

cryptomaniac_xxx

hero member

Activity: 1344

Merit: 540

Quote from: Japinat on August 13, 2022, 01:42:06 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on August 13, 2022, 10:49:31 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on August 13, 2022, 10:27:56 AM

Yeah, I'm also curious why Canelo looks slower than Bivol while most of Canelo's fights we're saw Canelo is very fast with his head movement. IMO 7 pounds aren't that huge, but we're seeing it's otherwise. I think it's because the boxers in light heavyweight division are greater than the boxers in super middleweight division at the current era. But Canelo would need to face Bivol again in the near future since no one can compete Canelo beside GGG in his current division.

It's just that Dmitry Bivol was able to limit Canelo's supposed potential. With how Bivol is able to corner Canelo most of the time, the latter becomes irritable and that leads him to destroy his own will to focus on the fight. Bivol successfully landed lots of punches making Canelo a punching bag. Because of that, Canelo feels disappointed and the result is, he feels he can't able to match Bivol's strategy.

Why you are curious that Canelo looks slower in that fight, remember that Bivol is not even fast. But with the right strategy by him, he was able to beat the heavy favorite which is Canelo, and him being the underdog wins the fight.

I quite remember that almost nobody, including me, thought that Bivol can really defeat and upset Canelo who is the heavy favorite at that time because we know that Canelo has already defeated one boxer in light-heavy. We also made some speculations that Bivol is kind of unfocused because his family was left in Russia when the war broke out. But Bivol proved to us that he can still successfully defend his belt given the situation he's on.

And Canelo is unstoppable at that point, he clean up the super MW division very easy, almost knocking down all the champions. That's how great Canelo is prior to Bivol fight. And then he moves up, and I will admit that I haven't follow the light-heavy but have heard Bivol and Beterviev's name as they are the champion in that division.

Quote from: Japinat on August 13, 2022, 01:42:06 PM

Sooner or later, Canelo and Bivol will again face each other for a rematch because super-middle is a kind of boring division to Canelo as he's already undisputed at the said division.

Yes, but he need to defeat his opponent right now in GGG and close their story. And then perhaps he will challenge Bivol at light-heavy again to avenge his defeat.

Japinat

hero member

Activity: 3052

Merit: 685

Quote from: goinmerry on August 13, 2022, 10:49:31 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on August 13, 2022, 10:27:56 AM

Yeah, I'm also curious why Canelo looks slower than Bivol while most of Canelo's fights we're saw Canelo is very fast with his head movement. IMO 7 pounds aren't that huge, but we're seeing it's otherwise. I think it's because the boxers in light heavyweight division are greater than the boxers in super middleweight division at the current era. But Canelo would need to face Bivol again in the near future since no one can compete Canelo beside GGG in his current division.

It's just that Dmitry Bivol was able to limit Canelo's supposed potential. With how Bivol is able to corner Canelo most of the time, the latter becomes irritable and that leads him to destroy his own will to focus on the fight. Bivol successfully landed lots of punches making Canelo a punching bag. Because of that, Canelo feels disappointed and the result is, he feels he can't able to match Bivol's strategy.

Why you are curious that Canelo looks slower in that fight, remember that Bivol is not even fast. But with the right strategy by him, he was able to beat the heavy favorite which is Canelo, and him being the underdog wins the fight.

I quite remember that almost nobody, including me, thought that Bivol can really defeat and upset Canelo who is the heavy favorite at that time because we know that Canelo has already defeated one boxer in light-heavy. We also made some speculations that Bivol is kind of unfocused because his family was left in Russia when the war broke out. But Bivol proved to us that he can still successfully defend his belt given the situation he's on.

Sooner or later, Canelo and Bivol will again face each other for a rematch because super-middle is a kind of boring division to Canelo as he's already undisputed at the said division.

stadus

legendary

Activity: 3080

Merit: 1292

Hhampuz for Campaign management

Quote from: serjent05 on August 12, 2022, 05:44:13 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on August 11, 2022, 06:13:35 AM

Quote from: Welsh on August 11, 2022, 04:34:43 AM

I do think people are starting to realise that Cancelo isn't this unstoppable force now. Everyone talks about how his power is the best in the business, but I've never really seen it honestly. I've seen some decent amount of tactical thinking from him, but that's been when he has been losing the fight, which is great. However, his power is only slightly above average I'd say in his division. If like you say, he moves up he doesn't keep that power to weight ratio, he seems to lose a bit of it.

That's the thing, he was an undisputed champion in his division before and we didn't notice his power because he is not a strong starter, he is only a good finisher but sometimes his opponent can survive even if they lose the fight. With this fight against GGG, he has not hurt GGG yet but he won the last fight, so let's see if they can really hurt GGG and maybe KO him which IMO unlikely to happen.

Well his fight with GGG is full of controversy, this controversy outshines Canelo's achievement because he shouldn't be undisputed without the help of ringside judges. Take for example his first fight with GGG which is so obvious that GGG should have won the fight but instead, the two judges favor Canelo by giving a draw and an unbelievable score of 118 - 110 in favor of Canelo.

I don't even know where he got that much connection to make the judges favor him because GGG was also a superstar in the division compared to Canelo that time. Is from his promoter? We don't know but that unjust scores robbed GGG because the fight was ended a draw just like what you said and then there's this rematch that is also a controversial fight because the judges again made some magic touch to stretch Canelo's scores.

That time, Canelo already know that couldn't risk his record for an early trilogy because their first two fights was already controversial and he knows that there will be much more eyes that will watch the fight that's why he chose to defend his belt against Fielding rather than giving Golovkin a tirlogy.

goinmerry

legendary

Activity: 2940

Merit: 1083

Quote from: Jawhead999 on August 13, 2022, 10:27:56 AM

Yeah, I'm also curious why Canelo looks slower than Bivol while most of Canelo's fights we're saw Canelo is very fast with his head movement. IMO 7 pounds aren't that huge, but we're seeing it's otherwise. I think it's because the boxers in light heavyweight division are greater than the boxers in super middleweight division at the current era. But Canelo would need to face Bivol again in the near future since no one can compete Canelo beside GGG in his current division.

It's just that Dmitry Bivol was able to limit Canelo's supposed potential. With how Bivol is able to corner Canelo most of the time, the latter becomes irritable and that leads him to destroy his own will to focus on the fight. Bivol successfully landed lots of punches making Canelo a punching bag. Because of that, Canelo feels disappointed and the result is, he feels he can't able to match Bivol's strategy.

Why you are curious that Canelo looks slower in that fight, remember that Bivol is not even fast. But with the right strategy by him, he was able to beat the heavy favorite which is Canelo, and him being the underdog wins the fight.

Jawhead999

legendary

Activity: 1834

Merit: 1208

Quote from: wxa7115 on August 12, 2022, 10:27:03 PM

But he looked really slow and heavy when he fought against Bivol, so unless there was something wrong with his training regimen then I think we can safely say that Canelo is probably never going to be able to move up a division successfully.

Yeah, I'm also curious why Canelo looks slower than Bivol while most of Canelo's fights we're saw Canelo is very fast with his head movement. IMO 7 pounds aren't that huge, but we're seeing it's otherwise. I think it's because the boxers in light heavyweight division are greater than the boxers in super middleweight division at the current era. But Canelo would need to face Bivol again in the near future since no one can compete Canelo beside GGG in his current division.

wxa7115

hero member

Activity: 2814

Merit: 734

Bitcoin is GOD

Quote from: btc_angela on August 11, 2022, 04:30:19 AM

Quote from: BitDane on August 11, 2022, 02:55:46 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 11, 2022, 02:45:28 AM

And I think it's all about the power, those guy are natural heavy, so heavy handed as well. It will be something in the catch weight but still it's not a sure thing for Canelo to win at Cruiserweight and yeah, probably the same result, going to be L for him with the big Makabu.

So now, let's just enjoy him and GGG next month, if he get passed GGG and win, let's see if he wanted to go to Light heavyweight again and go after Bivol for a rematch or stay in 168 lbs but there will be no challenges for him.

Well, there is no other way but to enjoy the upcoming fight of Canelo and GGG.

But, It would really a challenge for Canelo if he moves up to cruiserweight because of the weight and possible power disadvantage. Those at the heavier weight can receive much stronger punches so the ability of Canelo to knockdown his opponent will be tested if he moves up in weight division. Not because he is a Knock out artist in the lower weight means he will be the same when he climbs the weight. We have seen several boxers to have difficulty in knocking their opponent even though they are devastating in their previous weight division.

We don't need to see it, his lost to Bivol at LHW is already a indication that he swallow more than he could chew. So probably going up to CW will also be a disaster waiting to happen for him.

Definitely, his power can only bring that much as 160-168 lbs, he is very dominant and most likely that is his perfect weight. But above that 175 lbs and higher will be a different Canelo, he doesn't have the advantage that he has when he is in the middle to super middleweight.

Correct, the fight of Canelo versus Bivol made very clear that Canelo is simply not ready to move up a division, he has great strength, stamina and punching power when it comes to the current division in which he fights and this has allowed him to dominate it.

But he looked really slow and heavy when he fought against Bivol, so unless there was something wrong with his training regimen then I think we can safely say that Canelo is probably never going to be able to move up a division successfully.

Kemarit

legendary

Activity: 3080

Merit: 1353

Quote from: Sithara007 on August 11, 2022, 09:51:16 PM

Quote from: harizen on August 11, 2022, 05:37:20 PM

Quote from: stadus on August 11, 2022, 01:55:43 PM

We already proved that he cannot really defeat the guys in that weight class because he is already struggling in the light-heavy.

"For now", yes. He is not capable yet of dealing with challenges in Cruiserweight.

He needs to be used first on fighting at the Light Heavyweight to slowly adopt the environment there until such time that he's now fully prepared to step on upper weight class. A target to defeat Dmitry Bivol should be on Canelo's future plan as if he can't pass that guy who previously defeated, then he won't test his strength if there's an improvement later on.

If Canelo loses this trilogy fight against GGG, then it will just be one more reason why he won't last in the Cruiserweight. How can he deal with active and prime boxers there if he can't beat a veteran boxer that is now close to retirement and far from being prime now?

I don't understand this. Why he need to move up the weight classes? He was looking very comfortable in the Super middleweight division and then he wanted to fight Dmitry Bivol in Light heavyweight. And that didn't ended well for him. Had he stayed in Super middleweight, he could have maintained his reputation. The loss against Bivol did a lot of damage to him. Anyway, for the fight against Gennady Golovkin, he is moving down one weight division. I hope that now he will remain stable between Middleweight and Super middleweight.

Chasing more belts I guess, he is a champion in 154, 160, 168 and we can say 175 against a fading Kovalev, so that is already 4 belts under his weight. And probably chasing a second belt in 175 lbs against Bivol. And if he ever succeeded on that, for sure he will go as high as Cruseirweight (but at a catch weight), to get his 5th belt and become of the greatest Mexican ever or even one of the greatest boxers who ever lived. Unfortunately, Bivol derail all his plans so Canelo wil have to start all over again.

serjent05

legendary

Activity: 3010

Merit: 1280

Get $2100 deposit bonuses & 60 FS

Quote from: Sanitough on August 11, 2022, 06:13:35 AM

Quote from: Welsh on August 11, 2022, 04:34:43 AM

I do think people are starting to realise that Cancelo isn't this unstoppable force now. Everyone talks about how his power is the best in the business, but I've never really seen it honestly. I've seen some decent amount of tactical thinking from him, but that's been when he has been losing the fight, which is great. However, his power is only slightly above average I'd say in his division. If like you say, he moves up he doesn't keep that power to weight ratio, he seems to lose a bit of it.

That's the thing, he was an undisputed champion in his division before and we didn't notice his power because he is not a strong starter, he is only a good finisher but sometimes his opponent can survive even if they lose the fight. With this fight against GGG, he has not hurt GGG yet but he won the last fight, so let's see if they can really hurt GGG and maybe KO him which IMO unlikely to happen.

Well his fight with GGG is full of controversy, this controversy outshines Canelo's achievement because he shouldn't be undisputed without the help of ringside judges. Take for example his first fight with GGG which is so obvious that GGG should have won the fight but instead, the two judges favor Canelo by giving a draw and an unbelievable score of 118 - 110 in favor of Canelo.

Vaculin

hero member

Activity: 2940

Merit: 613

Winding down.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 11, 2022, 10:15:35 PM

@Sithara007. There is something within athletes who are real champions that we cannot understand. There is a need for them to prove themselves to everyone that they are the very best. Manny Pacman has this, Tom Brady, Kobe Bryant and other athletes from different types of sport. It also builds on their name and reputation. If it is correctly built, their management team can make much money from it hehehehe.

Yup, being great means that you will not put some limiter on your skills like only fight in your comfortable weight class so that you can maintain your reputation and for Canelo's case being an undisputed boxer and a champion in the super-middleweight. Real champions keeps on pushing themselves because they don't know their limit yet and Canelo knows that because he keeps on seeking fight outside his comfortable division.

Topic: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (September 17) - page 24. (Read 8975 times)