Will be for Canelo in this one , Yeah Golovkin is one of the favorite in this division but according to my review it is Canelo's advantage in this fight so my Bet will be for Him.
though we are Month before this happens but the votes stands close to the boxers so we will be having a very exciting fight coming .
Topic: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (September 17) - page 42. (Read 8923 times)
I don't call it special treatment, maybe a lot of people still believe that Canelo is the better fighter and he could beat GGG again. Well, personally, I think that's wrong, but I would not complain and say Canelo has a special treatment, instead, I will just take the opportunity to bet on GGG with that sweet odds.
Many people still counting to Canelo in this fight, believing he will dominate GGG again. They're not looking to Canelo's recent lost but more focus on his fight with GGG wherein he ended up in victory. So they are confident Canelo can do it again but I doubt it this time. GGG looks older now and he might not the same as before but still im also rooting for him to win. 
Just voted for Golovkin in the poll, and at this point the polls are 50/50. Too early to say anything, but early indications are that a large part of the users believe that this fight may not be as one-sided as the betting odds suggest. Golovkin is almost at +400. I guess that is because massive amounts of Canelo supporters are betting in his favor and therefore the sportsbooks adjusted their own odds to reduce risk from over-exposure. I would say that fair odds for Golovkin will be in the +250 to +300 range. Anyone with a brain would make a bet in favor of GGG given the current odds.
Anyway back to the fight, it's hard to believe that GGG can manage to get a win especially this time when his body is already weary while Canelo is still on his prime but who knows, an upset is always around the corner. What I'm seeing is that GGG can withstand 12 full rounds and still give Canelo a struggle on their upcoming trilogy this September.
Since Canelo vs GGG I, it's always Canelo was in his prime but still, there's a doubt if he really dominates GGG at those 2 meetings.
If only Canelo has a satisfying win, I think the trilogy won't ever happen. There is something that needed to settle that's why regardless if GGG is still in good shape or not, this trilogy is a must thing to happen.
Not that it's hard to believe that GGG will win but still, there's a chance. GGG is not a type of boxer that will just easily give Canelo a win. As we speak, GGG is doing his routine training regime every day that makes him in good shape.
I get your point, their trilogy must happen to settle the real score between them and see if Canelo is indeed be the hailed winner of this series match they got. If only a knockout happened last time then I really think that there would be no trilogy this coming September, but since people are not satisfied at those two meetings then I guess this trilogy will give them an answer.
Definitely, GGG is underestimated here against his arch-nemesis. There fight has been so close that others argued that it could be GGG 2-0 or GGG 1-0. But we all know that Canelo has been given special treatment and even after coming from a humiliating lost, they still call him the favorite in this fight when that huge odds in the beginning. I will just be basing on their last fight, those lasted full 12 rounds, both have a tough chin, so yeah, it will reach 12 rounds in my book again.
The age factor has something to do with why he is the favorite and improvements from their fights before they meet but GGG already has something to look forward to, he has seen how Bivol dominate Canelo and he will use that same strategy to beat Canelo and that is to do a lot of counter punch and frustrate him while moving forward, because of Canelo's loss it will be a different ball game if GGG decides to use different tactics that he did not implement on their last two fights.
Agreed I think canelo will concede on this fight. GGG shoukd have won both fights so far, dude probably will come put firing here. Barring something crazy happening I got GGG in a decision at the end. Should be a good one either way.
Definitely, GGG is underestimated here against his arch-nemesis. There fight has been so close that others argued that it could be GGG 2-0 or GGG 1-0. But we all know that Canelo has been given special treatment and even after coming from a humiliating lost, they still call him the favorite in this fight when that huge odds in the beginning. I will just be basing on their last fight, those lasted full 12 rounds, both have a tough chin, so yeah, it will reach 12 rounds in my book again.
The age factor has something to do with why he is the favorite and improvements from their fights before they meet but GGG already has something to look forward to, he has seen how Bivol dominate Canelo and he will use that same strategy to beat Canelo and that is to do a lot of counter punch and frustrate him while moving forward, because of Canelo's loss it will be a different ball game if GGG decides to use different tactics that he did not implement on their last two fights.
Looking at the current odds:
ML
Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95
So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.
ML
Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95
So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.
Agreed but do you not speculate GGG to be very underestmated for this fight? Canelo has only recently lost to Bivol. It was on a higher weight division, yes, however is Canelo ready for this only months after the loss? Bivol has also showed everyone the style on how to win vs. Canelo. Also, do you see this fight to reach round 12?
Definitely, GGG is underestimated here against his arch-nemesis. There fight has been so close that others argued that it could be GGG 2-0 or GGG 1-0. But we all know that Canelo has been given special treatment and even after coming from a humiliating lost, they still call him the favorite in this fight when that huge odds in the beginning. I will just be basing on their last fight, those lasted full 12 rounds, both have a tough chin, so yeah, it will reach 12 rounds in my book again.
I don't call it special treatment, maybe a lot of people still believe that Canelo is the better fighter and he could beat GGG again. Well, personally, I think that's wrong, but I would not complain and say Canelo has a special treatment, instead, I will just take the opportunity to bet on GGG with that sweet odds.
I think maybe what he meant is that in their fight, it was very close by one judge, Adalaide Byrd scoring a biased 118-110 score of Canelo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jZzSd4cvLA
And then on the Bivol fight? 115-113? Yes, Bivol won but I think it's not even close.
Looking at the current odds:
ML
Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95
So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.
ML
Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95
So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.
Agreed but do you not speculate GGG to be very underestmated for this fight? Canelo has only recently lost to Bivol. It was on a higher weight division, yes, however is Canelo ready for this only months after the loss? Bivol has also showed everyone the style on how to win vs. Canelo. Also, do you see this fight to reach round 12?
Definitely, GGG is underestimated here against his arch-nemesis. There fight has been so close that others argued that it could be GGG 2-0 or GGG 1-0. But we all know that Canelo has been given special treatment and even after coming from a humiliating lost, they still call him the favorite in this fight when that huge odds in the beginning. I will just be basing on their last fight, those lasted full 12 rounds, both have a tough chin, so yeah, it will reach 12 rounds in my book again.
I don't call it special treatment, maybe a lot of people still believe that Canelo is the better fighter and he could beat GGG again. Well, personally, I think that's wrong, but I would not complain and say Canelo has a special treatment, instead, I will just take the opportunity to bet on GGG with that sweet odds.
Looking at the current odds:
ML
Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95
So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.
ML
Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95
So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.
Agreed but do you not speculate GGG to be very underestmated for this fight? Canelo has only recently lost to Bivol. It was on a higher weight division, yes, however is Canelo ready for this only months after the loss? Bivol has also showed everyone the style on how to win vs. Canelo. Also, do you see this fight to reach round 12?
Definitely, GGG is underestimated here against his arch-nemesis. There fight has been so close that others argued that it could be GGG 2-0 or GGG 1-0. But we all know that Canelo has been given special treatment and even after coming from a humiliating lost, they still call him the favorite in this fight when that huge odds in the beginning. I will just be basing on their last fight, those lasted full 12 rounds, both have a tough chin, so yeah, it will reach 12 rounds in my book again.
GGG was asked about retired and this is his official response:
So for now, even if he lost again, I don't think he will retire, he answer it brutally honest, if there is a good opportunity and the money is right then why not? So for now even at age 40, his mind still thinks that he can go and fight after a trilogy, but it will be sort of a day to day basis.
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“[Retirement] is a hard question. It’s hard to say. Everyday can bring something new. Even if we just look ahead past this fight, we’ll see what opportunities come our way from the financial and attractiveness of a potential fight. I will make my decision based on the situation and when it’s a good time,” said Golovkin.
Source.So for now, even if he lost again, I don't think he will retire, he answer it brutally honest, if there is a good opportunity and the money is right then why not? So for now even at age 40, his mind still thinks that he can go and fight after a trilogy, but it will be sort of a day to day basis.
That would be the best approach, I agree, he just need to look at his performance against Canelo before making the abrupt decision.
If he wins, then obviously he will have to fight. If he lose but in another very close and controversial fight, we might see him fighting again. Specially, coming from his mouth that it will all depends on the financials. What kind of money they are willing to offer to him even if he is already 40 years old? To another young guy and then he be the stepping stone?
Looking at the current odds:
ML
Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95
So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.
ML
Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95
So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.
Agreed but do you not speculate GGG to be very underestmated for this fight? Canelo has only recently lost to Bivol. It was on a higher weight division, yes, however is Canelo ready for this only months after the loss? Bivol has also showed everyone the style on how to win vs. Canelo. Also, do you see this fight to reach round 12?
GGG was asked about retired and this is his official response:
So for now, even if he lost again, I don't think he will retire, he answer it brutally honest, if there is a good opportunity and the money is right then why not? So for now even at age 40, his mind still thinks that he can go and fight after a trilogy, but it will be sort of a day to day basis.
Quote
“[Retirement] is a hard question. It’s hard to say. Everyday can bring something new. Even if we just look ahead past this fight, we’ll see what opportunities come our way from the financial and attractiveness of a potential fight. I will make my decision based on the situation and when it’s a good time,” said Golovkin.
Source.So for now, even if he lost again, I don't think he will retire, he answer it brutally honest, if there is a good opportunity and the money is right then why not? So for now even at age 40, his mind still thinks that he can go and fight after a trilogy, but it will be sort of a day to day basis.
Canelo's lost to Floyd early on his career, he was still very young that time and not even a household name in the US. But it's good that he was exposed to Floyd that's what he developed after that to become the top dog in boxing (after Floyd retired for good).
Let's clarify something here, Canelo Alvarez has a record of clean record 42-0 (with 30 KO) before he fought Mayweather Jr. It's not Canelo's early career when he faced The Money. He was also already famous back then that's why he's being chosen and considered as Mayweather Jr. opponent in the first place.
Let's not take that reason why he loss but rather Mayweather is just too much for him. There is no doubt that Prime Mayweather Jr. is a beast and the distance between him and Canelo is too much. They are fighting within the same weight take note of that.
Although Canelo lose, it's a good experience having Mayweather as his opponent on his boxing career history.
The experienced fighting against the intellectual money maker gives Canelo an Idea that career also needs to bring more money in his table, he realize that the more money fight he made the more dollars will be, it's no reasoning why he lost against Mayweather it's not something that we should amazed as even Pacman who known to be the best competitor for Mayweather unable to bring the man down, he retired his gloves with a clean record and that's really something.
Though many fans are not really convinced but Mayweather ain't interested in their opinions. He got his billions of dollars
and he really enjoyed the luxuries and famed that he has after that long hard work.
Anyway back to the fight, it's hard to believe that GGG can manage to get a win especially this time when his body is already weary while Canelo is still on his prime but who knows, an upset is always around the corner. What I'm seeing is that GGG can withstand 12 full rounds and still give Canelo a struggle on their upcoming trilogy this September.
Since Canelo vs GGG I, it's always Canelo was in his prime but still, there's a doubt if he really dominates GGG at those 2 meetings.
If only Canelo has a satisfying win, I think the trilogy won't ever happen. There is something that needed to settle that's why regardless if GGG is still in good shape or not, this trilogy is a must thing to happen.
Not that it's hard to believe that GGG will win but still, there's a chance. GGG is not a type of boxer that will just easily give Canelo a win. As we speak, GGG is doing his routine training regime every day that makes him in good shape.
When we talked about GGG, don't ever put age does matter as the main disadvantage. If he will lose here, it means Canelo just outbox him but that's not because of GGG's age. We can compare them in technical aspects but it doesn't mean all the advantages are on Canelo because he is much younger.
What if let's say GGG wins here, is that statement of yours about his age will now changed?
Actually the statement of ages factor is mostly correct since as we can see many good boxer often lose when he's already old, take an example of the recent fight of the rematch between Inoue vs Donaire. The first fight is really exiting and no boring since it's ended via decision, Donaire had an iron chin to survive for 12 rounds. But the rematch, we're disappointed to see Donaire can't hold his body to taking Inoue's punch and ended as TKO on the second rounds.What if let's say GGG wins here, is that statement of yours about his age will now changed?
The possible chance GGG will win the trilogy is below 30% IMO.
That's not a good comparison. Inoue really dominated the fight on their 1st and 2nd fight. Different from Canelo vs GGG where everyone wants a trilogy since there's a question if Canelo really dominated GGG in those 2 previous fights. The Donaire and Inoue just happened because that should really happen as part of the unification of the Bantamweight title. I think Donaire already knows that he can't handle Inoue in their 2nd fight.
GGG is no doubt, maybe slow now but I can't put that age factor here. He is already aging when he fights Canelo for the second time but the latter still struggles. Canelo will also remember the wrath that Bivol gave during their last fight. His confidence is still not at 100% because of that worst loss of his career.
Golovkin isn't the fighter he once was. No matter how you like a fighter to win because of being a fan. Age does matter and play a huge role in boxing or any contact sports. Clearly Canelo will be the favorite to win but hey, the odds of GGG is really tempting especially if you are a huge fan. However, for me one must not let emotions to decide in sports betting and just focus on who has a better chance of winning because we are after the money.
I don't think he was change, it's just that Canelo is also a great fighter and in the last fight, Canelo was better than him that's why he lose. Look at his record, he had only 1 lose and that is only against canelo.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/356831
his record is now 42-1 with 37KO from 42 wins. In fact, he has a better record than Canelo as Canelo has 2 losses already.
Canelo's lost to Floyd early on his career, he was still very young that time and not even a household name in the US. But it's good that he was exposed to Floyd that's what he developed after that to become the top dog in boxing (after Floyd retired for good).
And if GGG can win here, he will avenge his only lost and we can say that he didn't lost at all. But then again the age factor will come into the picture if he still have the body to beat a still prime Alvarez.
Anyway back to the fight, it's hard to believe that GGG can manage to get a win especially this time when his body is already weary while Canelo is still on his prime but who knows, an upset is always around the corner. What I'm seeing is that GGG can withstand 12 full rounds and still give Canelo a struggle on their upcoming trilogy this September.
Canelo's lost to Floyd early on his career, he was still very young that time and not even a household name in the US. But it's good that he was exposed to Floyd that's what he developed after that to become the top dog in boxing (after Floyd retired for good).
Let's clarify something here, Canelo Alvarez has a record of clean record 42-0 (with 30 KO) before he fought Mayweather Jr. It's not Canelo's early career when he faced The Money. He was also already famous back then that's why he's being chosen and considered as Mayweather Jr. opponent in the first place.
Let's not take that reason why he loss but rather Mayweather is just too much for him. There is no doubt that Prime Mayweather Jr. is a beast and the distance between him and Canelo is too much. They are fighting within the same weight take note of that.
Although Canelo lose, it's a good experience having Mayweather as his opponent on his boxing career history.
Is poll really needed that much ? Current mood of this topic is "GGG is great, but he is old. Canelo is younger, that is why he will win". People will vote for Canelo, but some will place bets on GGG, because real chances of him winning this fight are greater what bookies offer.
You are takings things seriously too much. Poll is just to see what's the people pulse about the fight. Don't be serious regardless of the poll result. Everyone knows that it will all end up on both boxers strategies on the day of the fight.
This poll, and any other poll is mostly fan-based so take it as a form of entertainment.
GGG odds is tempting knowing he's not really underdog compare on other match that the gap between both boxers is really and distant. Even at retirement age already, he can surely still hurt the younger and prime Canelo.
Yeah, I agree, of course pool is good just to measure our preferences, doesn't have to take seriously. And then we have the argument for and against each side.
And this is normal process for every game not just for boxing, we have our own analysis on how the fight will turn out. So it's based on how we look at the fight and what will make the other win the game itself. Bookies offer us odds, if you want to bet on base on how you see the fight then good.
Is poll really needed that much ? Current mood of this topic is "GGG is great, but he is old. Canelo is younger, that is why he will win". People will vote for Canelo, but some will place bets on GGG, because real chances of him winning this fight are greater what bookies offer.
You are takings things seriously too much. Poll is just to see what's the people pulse about the fight. Don't be serious regardless of the poll result. Everyone knows that it will all end up on both boxers strategies on the day of the fight.
This poll, and any other poll is mostly fan-based so take it as a form of entertainment.
GGG odds is tempting knowing he's not really underdog compare on other match that the gap between both boxers is really and distant. Even at retirement age already, he can surely still hurt the younger and prime Canelo.
At age 40 of course GG is not going what he was. At this age some people are already taking Viagra to last 3 minutes. And he is fighting against a 31 year old Canelo. One could say this is already a fixed fight and what GG could get is a huge amount of money but I'm hoping he will not go down in the first round. That would be too obvious.
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