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Looking at the current odds:

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Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95

So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.

I'm glad that the odds are out already. The odds of GGG is indeed very attractive, I mean, I know he has not won a fight in the last 2 fight against Canelo but that 3.95 is just too much as GGG was not fully dominated in the last 2 fights, so I believe he has a very good chance of winning here by upset.
Yes, it was a good odds for us, it's hard to see crypto bookies putting a odd like that for a great boxer like GGG. But he is facing Canelo, so what can we say.

But as you have said, there is chance for GGG by an upset here. Specially if he found his second win at his age. Great fighters has one good fight in them, and hopefully this will be the one for GGG.
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Looking at the current odds:

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Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95

So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.

I'm glad that the odds are out already. The odds of GGG is indeed very attractive, I mean, I know he has not won a fight in the last 2 fight against Canelo but that 3.95 is just too much as GGG was not fully dominated in the last 2 fights, so I believe he has a very good chance of winning here by upset.

Even me, I think that the odds are really attractive, it's hard to pass that knowing Canelo came from a loss while GGG came from a big win. I know the age disparity and I know Canelo won the last two fights as well, but man, I'm a fan of GGG so it's hard not to take it.
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Looking at the current odds:

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Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95

So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.

I'm glad that the odds are out already. The odds of GGG is indeed very attractive, I mean, I know he has not won a fight in the last 2 fight against Canelo but that 3.95 is just too much as GGG was not fully dominated in the last 2 fights, so I believe he has a very good chance of winning here by upset.
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Looking at the current odds:

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Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95

So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.

I've already anticipated this scenario that Canelo Alvarez will be listed as the favorite one to win while GGG will be the underdog but what I didn't expected was the gap of their odds because GGG has won his last fight against Murata while Canelo has been defeated against Bivol in his last fight. GGG's odds are attractive though but I can't be that sure that he will win, frankly.

LOL.. those odds are eerily similar to the ones we had for the Canelo vs Bivol fight. And we know how it turned out.

Yep, but during that time, there was a lot of doubts on Bivol and bettors think that Canelo wouldn't lose. Can history repeat itself here?

Apart from the chance of winning, the number of bets being placed on either side will also determine the odds. For example, during the Pacquiao vs Thurman fight, the latter had better odds earlier on. But then Pacman fans started placing their bets in the millions, the sportsbooks were forced to change their odds in favor of Pacquiao. In this case, Canelo's odds may be better than what they are in reality, because of the huge number of bets being placed by his supporters.

It's based on demographics as you have explain it, both have huge fan based, Canelo on US and then GGG in Europe. And I think this will remain still, bets on both sides can't offset it anymore.
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Yeah, it's a swing odds, so we still need to wait for GGG supporters to turn the tide, but I doubt that they can overwhelm as far as the betting public goes. It will still be Canelo who is going to be the outstanding favorite. Tons of dollars needs to go to GGG, but then again, Canelo fans and even bettors know that he will have a greater chance to win again. So I would say that there will be no swing bets for GGG, maybe just a couple give and take.

At least in the major betting markets such as United States, Canada and Great Britain, far more odds will be made in favor of Canelo when compared to GGG. Within the US, Canelo may be having 5x or 10x more supporters (and more bets) when compared to Golovkin and that is the reason why there is such a large disparity in purse. The promoters also know about the fan base of both the boxers and they are doing all they can to create hype about the fight in the United States as well as in other markets.

They needed to create such noise in order to bring more money into this upcoming fight. The more fans to engage, the better

earnings that they can get, this anticipated trilogy will gain more interest since the two previous fights are still controversial and the

fans wanted to see the closure in case Canelo will again win the fight, but what if GGG wins? another rematch? let wait and see if

how the fight will end up and who will win between these two,.
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Yeah, it's a swing odds, so we still need to wait for GGG supporters to turn the tide, but I doubt that they can overwhelm as far as the betting public goes. It will still be Canelo who is going to be the outstanding favorite. Tons of dollars needs to go to GGG, but then again, Canelo fans and even bettors know that he will have a greater chance to win again. So I would say that there will be no swing bets for GGG, maybe just a couple give and take.

At least in the major betting markets such as United States, Canada and Great Britain, far more odds will be made in favor of Canelo when compared to GGG. Within the US, Canelo may be having 5x or 10x more supporters (and more bets) when compared to Golovkin and that is the reason why there is such a large disparity in purse. The promoters also know about the fan base of both the boxers and they are doing all they can to create hype about the fight in the United States as well as in other markets.
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Looking at the current odds:

ML
Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95

So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.

I've already anticipated this scenario that Canelo Alvarez will be listed as the favorite one to win while GGG will be the underdog but what I didn't expected was the gap of their odds because GGG has won his last fight against Murata while Canelo has been defeated against Bivol in his last fight. GGG's odds are attractive though but I can't be that sure that he will win, frankly.

LOL.. those odds are eerily similar to the ones we had for the Canelo vs Bivol fight. And we know how it turned out. Apart from the chance of winning, the number of bets being placed on either side will also determine the odds. For example, during the Pacquiao vs Thurman fight, the latter had better odds earlier on. But then Pacman fans started placing their bets in the millions, the sportsbooks were forced to change their odds in favor of Pacquiao. In this case, Canelo's odds may be better than what they are in reality, because of the huge number of bets being placed by his supporters.

Yeah, it's a swing odds, so we still need to wait for GGG supporters to turn the tide, but I doubt that they can overwhelm as far as the betting public goes. It will still be Canelo who is going to be the outstanding favorite. Tons of dollars needs to go to GGG, but then again, Canelo fans and even bettors know that he will have a greater chance to win again. So I would say that there will be no swing bets for GGG, maybe just a couple give and take.
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I agree, and it seems that Canelo will still be the favorite no matter who is he going to face maybe against Beterviev. I understand that GGG shot might have a little chance because they are going to fight at Canelo's territory. Nevertheless, I will say that GGG is a live underdog, and simply will give his everything to win in this fight.. So yeah why not bet on him even for just a medium money, I guess it wouldn't hurt.

That shouldn't be a big problem and disadvantage for GGG. As long as he will do his best, making sure that most rounds will win by him, judges might not influence the score cards. That's what happen when Dmitry Bivol won even if their fight was on Canelo's homecourt advantage. It's hard to give a win to the one favored if the whole time, the Favorite is clearly losing every round.

It needs to be very compelling though to make the judges score the round for GGG, otherwise if it is very close, I'm seeing the same thing over again, judges be biased on Canelo.

Like Bivol, GGG has to do something to make Canelo disappointed again while fighting. That's the time Bivol crashed Canelo because the latter wasn't able now to focus on the fight out of frustration made by Bivol. GGG knows already some strategies to beat Canelo and will just wait for the perfect time to land those against Canelo. This will be a GGG win and a good timing to announce his retirement.

They have fought 24 rounds, so for sure he might have an idea on how Canelo fight. In the Bivol fight though, Bivol was able to get back at Canelo with his superior jab and his physical advantage, (height and reach). GGG doesn't have that much advantage so it's going to be the old hard fought rounds and needs to outland Canelo.
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Looking at the current odds:

ML
Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95

So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.

I've already anticipated this scenario that Canelo Alvarez will be listed as the favorite one to win while GGG will be the underdog but what I didn't expected was the gap of their odds because GGG has won his last fight against Murata while Canelo has been defeated against Bivol in his last fight. GGG's odds are attractive though but I can't be that sure that he will win, frankly.

LOL.. those odds are eerily similar to the ones we had for the Canelo vs Bivol fight. And we know how it turned out. Apart from the chance of winning, the number of bets being placed on either side will also determine the odds. For example, during the Pacquiao vs Thurman fight, the latter had better odds earlier on. But then Pacman fans started placing their bets in the millions, the sportsbooks were forced to change their odds in favor of Pacquiao. In this case, Canelo's odds may be better than what they are in reality, because of the huge number of bets being placed by his supporters.
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Looking at the current odds:

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Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95

So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.

What a gap but I'm in favor of that. I like to put a fair amount on GGG regardless of both boxers' status. I think it's just fine to place a bet for him knowing that the trilogy might be his last fight, win or loss. GGG will put everything into that fight as that might be the last time he will fight seriously in a big match. Yes, I will bet against most analysis speculation as they favored Canelo here to win the match.

Yes, a fair amount of bet will do, and if ever we lost on our bet, then it might not hurt us. And who knows, for me GGG can still fight and there is a slim chance that he might pull an 'upset'.

Might be late for the trilogy as GGG is no excuse for age gap disadvantages but I'm sure, like what he did in their 2 previous fight, GGG will be able again to put Canelo on his limits. The latter is surely still under the effect of stressful loss against Bivol. Hard to regain confidence on that as that was a bad loss despite being a heavy favorite in that match.

It's because they think that GGG has lost a step or two, although he won against Murata, he came from a layoff that's why it took him some time to adjust in that fight but eventually win although he took some punishment in that 40 year old body. GGG is one of those boxers that really push Canelo  and almost 'got the win'.
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Looking at the current odds:

ML
Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95

So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.

What a gap but I'm in favor of that. I like to put a fair amount on GGG regardless of both boxers' status. I think it's just fine to place a bet for him knowing that the trilogy might be his last fight, win or loss. GGG will put everything into that fight as that might be the last time he will fight seriously in a big match. Yes, I will bet against most analysis speculation as they favored Canelo here to win the match.

Might be late for the trilogy as GGG is no excuse for age gap disadvantages but I'm sure, like what he did in their 2 previous fight, GGG will be able again to put Canelo on his limits. The latter is surely still under the effect of stressful loss against Bivol. Hard to regain confidence on that as that was a bad loss despite being a heavy favorite in that match.
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I agree, and it seems that Canelo will still be the favorite no matter who is he going to face maybe against Beterviev. I understand that GGG shot might have a little chance because they are going to fight at Canelo's territory. Nevertheless, I will say that GGG is a live underdog, and simply will give his everything to win in this fight.. So yeah why not bet on him even for just a medium money, I guess it wouldn't hurt.

That shouldn't be a big problem and disadvantage for GGG. As long as he will do his best, making sure that most rounds will win by him, judges might not influence the score cards. That's what happen when Dmitry Bivol won even if their fight was on Canelo's homecourt advantage. It's hard to give a win to the one favored if the whole time, the Favorite is clearly losing every round.

Like Bivol, GGG has to do something to make Canelo disappointed again while fighting. That's the time Bivol crashed Canelo because the latter wasn't able now to focus on the fight out of frustration made by Bivol. GGG knows already some strategies to beat Canelo and will just wait for the perfect time to land those against Canelo. This will be a GGG win and a good timing to announce his retirement.
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And you got that right, of course, Canelo has more chances to win against GGG in the ring. He has the advantage against the ready-to-retire GGG and he has to win even on their upcoming trilogy if there's no hype if he wins it because he can't afford to lose for the 2nd time this year but he still should be careful against GGG though because even the man is much older than him, GGG can always upset any opponent he'd face even if that name is Saul Canelo Alvarez.

Yes, it seems to me that the big problem of all professional athletes is that they do not leave during the peak of their fame and athletic form, leaving feelings of joy and pride in the hearts of fans. Instead, they continue to participate in fights and cause disappointment, I hope that the upcoming Canelo vs Golovkin fight will be an exception.

Of course, it's their job that they love, so it's hard for them to leave at the peak, maybe Michael Jordan because he feels that there is no more challenges. But in a sports like boxing, wherein you physically trying to fight against each other, it's hard to let go of that specially if you think even at age 40 that you can beat a young champion. Although this fight should have happen years ago when Golovkin is not that old. But at least we will see one final great fight for him if ever he chooses to retire.
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Looking at the current odds:

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Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95

So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.

I've already anticipated this scenario that Canelo Alvarez will be listed as the favorite one to win while GGG will be the underdog but what I didn't expected was the gap of their odds because GGG has won his last fight against Murata while Canelo has been defeated against Bivol in his last fight. GGG's odds are attractive though but I can't be that sure that he will win, frankly.

I agree, and it seems that Canelo will still be the favorite no matter who is he going to face maybe against Beterviev. I understand that GGG shot might have a little chance because they are going to fight at Canelo's territory. Nevertheless, I will say that GGG is a live underdog, and simply will give his everything to win in this fight.. So yeah why not bet on him even for just a medium money, I guess it wouldn't hurt.
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^^ Canelo though looks very angry at his every opponent, but against Bivol though, there seems to be no trash talk but look at what happen to him.

But we can' compare the two, I know it, and Canelo and GGG really hate each other that even at the start of the press conference, you can see dislike. And the feeling is mutual, although GGG seems to be subdue but for sure we want to get his win against Canelo.

This Canelo aggression can play bad for him. I know that he is a profession, but if he fights with such aggression, cold headed GGG can land a nice counter punch. I like GGG behave, always calm and smiling. He is not trying to trash talk or get into opponents mind. That is good quality for a fighter, but bad for promoting event. A lot of people like GGG for his boxing, and hate him for being boring boxer.

Both of them have pros and cons, but I do agree about the thing that Canelo's hot headed will be his disadvantage against GGG because Canelo quite knew that being hot headed will give him a handicap to weigh things correctly in the ring while the latter is at the advantage side as his calmness will give his thinking skills straight amidst the fight.

well, we will see their performance inside the ring few months from now. will this be a redemption for GGG? or will canelo beat him clear and fair? they may do the exchange of words for the sake of publicity, because they need it. but for GGG, this may be his last fight before he hang up the gloves, but for Canelo, this is still one of the many fights that he needs to outperform himself.
I certainly don't think that GGG can defeat Canelo, especially this time. Well, it's not that I'm not underestimating GGG here but the odds are clearly pointing to Canelo as he has the most advantage compared to GGG who is near his retirement stage. GGG may survive the whole and full 12 rounds but I'd say that Canelo will be the hailed winner.
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Looking at the current odds:

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Alvarez - 1.21
GGG - 3.95

So that is a huge disparity as far as the odds goes and they seems to really favoring Alvarez here. Maybe the age factor is what this bookies are looking at, GGG just won his last fight, while Canelo lost to Bivol. I think it's a great odds for GGG supporters this early as it is very attractive.

I've already anticipated this scenario that Canelo Alvarez will be listed as the favorite one to win while GGG will be the underdog but what I didn't expected was the gap of their odds because GGG has won his last fight against Murata while Canelo has been defeated against Bivol in his last fight. GGG's odds are attractive though but I can't be that sure that he will win, frankly.
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I think a normal person started to decline at age 40? so even if we do try to maintain it as much as we can, sooner or later Father time is going to catch up with us. But yeah, strict diet and regimen can extend specially for boxers, just like GGG. So maybe for now his age is in question, but we will have to see it on the ring and I think he can still pull the trigger and really extra motivated against Canelo, so for now we will all should base on skills of either of the two.

Not 40.. but much earlier.. most of the athletes retire when they are 35-36 (I am not just talking about boxing, but also about other sports such as football, cricket and field hockey). I don't want to predict anything at this point. I have already posted that Golovkin doesn't looks as if he has lost any power or maneuverability due to ageing. But then, I could be wrong. If he gets KO-ed by Canelo, I will get roasted here. Boxing is such an unpredictable sport. Did any of us predicted that Canelo would lose to Bivol? I don't think that anyone made a post in favor of Bivol before the match. This match will go the same way. It is unpredictable, although Canelo holds the advantage. 
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I agree but still, age is a big factor to look at, you have to consider the wear and tear of the body, and then the training as well. Perhaps the training regimen should be different when you are at 30 as compare to 40 years old because old body then to recover slow and it takes a lot of time. Or you can overtrain yourself, just like what we witnessed in Manny, he was showing age in Thurman but still won, but against Ugas, it was a different Manny we see, slow, and no movement perhaps it could be his age really showing on that fight and then he retire.
The age of the boxers is relatively still in excellent physical condition and strong body resistance between 34 and a maximum of 40 years depending on the fitness of each boxer, they must fight according to equal opponents to show knock down abilities, but fight with young opponents only to defensive position and rarely hit hard to be able to bring down the opponent, we can judge it in the Many vs Ugas fight some time ago and vice versa, Floyd Mayweather can still win the boxing fight from Conor McGregor. Between the two fight of the age difference, which prediction is the most dominant for the Canelo vs Golovkin 3 fight, but after Cenelo lost to Bivol then we have to reconsider the victory for Canelo.
That loss of Canelo might have already given GGG some confidence in the coming fight. He is already 40 years old, only few fights are left for him but this one is a very special one, so if he will win this fight, he will always be remembered as beating Canelo is always a big achievement.
Beating Canelo is a personal goal for GGG, he and the fans still thinks that they've been rob from that 2 previous fights between these two fighters and winning this trilogy will give the fans more reason to follow and support GGG even he's already on the stage of retiring his gloves maybe there's another fight if ever he will win this one against Canelo or they will have another Rematch.

It's just a possibility, but then again, we need to wait for the outcome of this upcoming fight then predict or assume if what next.
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He will be remember, GGG established his name in this division though Canelo is the one who get more achievements but GGG

will always be attached to Canelo's name in this weight division, fans will continue to remember how these two fighters showcase their

talents from one another, if Canelo will not win with a KO, doubts will continue to surround from the two previous fights, it will

remain questionable.
Without a doubt this is a risky fight for Canelo, it is obvious he did not wanted to accept this fight as if he had beaten Bivol then he will remain at that division and never cross paths with GGG again.

However since he lost and he lost in such a convincing way then he is trying to get his reputation back by using GGG as a stepping stone, however GGG is still in a good shape and it is not going to be an easy fight, if Canelo cannot beat GGG convincingly despite his age then he is never going to hear the end of it, and this fight which was supposed to increase his reputation could instead lower it even further.
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I agree but still, age is a big factor to look at, you have to consider the wear and tear of the body, and then the training as well. Perhaps the training regimen should be different when you are at 30 as compare to 40 years old because old body then to recover slow and it takes a lot of time. Or you can overtrain yourself, just like what we witnessed in Manny, he was showing age in Thurman but still won, but against Ugas, it was a different Manny we see, slow, and no movement perhaps it could be his age really showing on that fight and then he retire.
The age of the boxers is relatively still in excellent physical condition and strong body resistance between 34 and a maximum of 40 years depending on the fitness of each boxer, they must fight according to equal opponents to show knock down abilities, but fight with young opponents only to defensive position and rarely hit hard to be able to bring down the opponent, we can judge it in the Many vs Ugas fight some time ago and vice versa, Floyd Mayweather can still win the boxing fight from Conor McGregor. Between the two fight of the age difference, which prediction is the most dominant for the Canelo vs Golovkin 3 fight, but after Cenelo lost to Bivol then we have to reconsider the victory for Canelo.
That loss of Canelo might have already given GGG some confidence in the coming fight. He is already 40 years old, only few fights are left for him but this one is a very special one, so if he will win this fight, he will always be remembered as beating Canelo is always a big achievement.

Professional fighters dont fight that much to forget their opponents or fights. Even if GGG looses, he will still be remembered and it will be a also a big achievement. Because not every boxer in middleweight has so much experience, to be able to built a career in such a way, to be able to face Canelo 3 times. Lets imagine that Canelo will become greatest among greatest boxers. That will be hell of an achievement to be able to ran 2 close fights with such a great boxer.

He will be remember, GGG established his name in this division though Canelo is the one who get more achievements but GGG

will always be attached to Canelo's name in this weight division, fans will continue to remember how these two fighters showcase their

talents from one another, if Canelo will not win with a KO, doubts will continue to surround from the two previous fights, it will

remain questionable.
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