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Quote from: lionheart78 on April 22, 2023, 06:04:14 PM

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This is indeed a walk in the park for Casimero. Nghitumbwa is nothing at Casimero's level. He will just be sent in Casimero's home country to be fed to the lion. But Casimero should first make sure that he is in perfect condition so that this fight will not be compromised as well just like his previous fights. And even if Nghitumbwa is just really somebody to defeat, as always in boxing, he could still upset the favorite. Casimero should cleanly knockout Nghitumbwa early in the fight to again gain attention and get better opponents.

I am looking at the fight as an easy win for Casimero but there is always a chance of an upset to happen. So let us hope and pray that there will be no lucky punch for Nghtumbwa and got an upset win.

I don't mean to underestimate this unknown boxer but I believe Nghitumbwa's sole and only chance to win this fight or at least have an advantage is if Casimero's problems in the past will chase him again in this weight class or if he will get injured while he's preparing for this fight. But since Casimero's weight is not an issue anymore in this division, then there will be no reasons that will hold back Casimero to defeat Nghitumbwa.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on April 20, 2023, 10:17:57 PM

This is indeed a walk in the park for Casimero. Nghitumbwa is nothing at Casimero's level. He will just be sent in Casimero's home country to be fed to the lion. But Casimero should first make sure that he is in perfect condition so that this fight will not be compromised as well just like his previous fights. And even if Nghitumbwa is just really somebody to defeat, as always in boxing, he could still upset the favorite. Casimero should cleanly knockout Nghitumbwa early in the fight to again gain attention and get better opponents.

I am looking at the fight as an easy win for Casimero but there is always a chance of an upset to happen. So let us hope and pray that there will be no lucky punch for Nghtumbwa and got an upset win.

Quote from: stomachgrowls on April 22, 2023, 03:14:30 PM

Fighting off an unknown or non popular boxer doesnt automatically means that it is a sure win, we should really put up into our minds that upsets and some comebacks could really happen in any sport which does
simply means that Casimero shouldnt really be taking lightly his opponent on which it would be good that it would be finished off if he had the chance and secure out the win, instead on making it long
just for the sake on making those ticket sales and PPV to be worth but its not really that something that be known when it comes to that manner.
Lots had been rooting already about this match to be one sided but of course there always that slim chance which they shouldnt ignore on.

I agree, one good example of such is the fight between Ledwaba and Pacquiao. Pacquiao was unknown during that time and was just a replacement. So he surprised the audience when he KO'ed Ledwaba in the early round of the fight. Another good example is the recent championship title fight between Tapales and Akhmadaliev where the audience never expected that it will be an upset result.

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Quote from: Agbe on April 22, 2023, 02:54:09 PM

The fight is very close now. One thing in boxing game is experience and endurance and determination. So if Johnriel Casimero has the believed that he can do it then there is nothing to worry about it even thoug he has not known his opponent to fight with. All what he has to do is to prepare is skills and experienced approach to battle the unknown. The pro boxing fans will be happy to watch the fight. But not all are interested in boxing game. And also those who are not fans of boxing might have interest to watch the game.

Fighting off an unknown or non popular boxer doesnt automatically means that it is a sure win, we should really put up into our minds that upsets and some comebacks could really happen in any sport which does
simply means that Casimero shouldnt really be taking lightly his opponent on which it would be good that it would be finished off if he had the chance and secure out the win, instead on making it long
just for the sake on making those ticket sales and PPV to be worth but its not really that something that be known when it comes to that manner.
Lots had been rooting already about this match to be one sided but of course there always that slim chance which they shouldnt ignore on.

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The fight is very close now. One thing in boxing game is experience and endurance and determination. So if Johnriel Casimero has the believed that he can do it then there is nothing to worry about it even thoug he has not known his opponent to fight with. All what he has to do is to prepare is skills and experienced approach to battle the unknown. The pro boxing fans will be happy to watch the fight. But not all are interested in boxing game. And also those who are not fans of boxing might have interest to watch the game.

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Knowing Casimero, he will be there, I mean, he will hype his name using a social media platform. It's his way of promoting a fight and bring the attention.

Maybe he's working harder to bring explosive outcome in this upcoming fight. He wants something to bring a good hype to his name.

While he can hype the fight, there's no need to hype it too much if it will happen in the Philippines because it's sure to be a sold-out crowd. Since it's not a championship fight yet, it does not deserve to take place in the US. Although there's no official statement yet on the venue, I'm speculating that it will happen in Casimero's home country, and he'll certainly be more inspired fighting in front of his fellow Filipinos.

I think the venue is already fixed as there are no announcements too that the bout is not that sure because the details aren't released. It's just that this bout is not that big that's why we aren't getting any news or have read any article. Say to safe that it is already a fixed event because we are now approaching the end of April and they are looking forward to make the fight happen in May 13.

Date & Time: May 13, 2023 at 7:00 AM (ET)
Place: Okada Manila Hotel and Casino (Paranaque City, Metro Manila, Philipines)
Tale of the Tape: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/750516-nghitumbwa-vs-casimero-fillipus-nghitumbwa-vs-john-riel-quadro-alas-casimero

Thanks for sharing this mate, this really mean that this fight will indeed happen in Manila because I was afraid of some delays as there are some rumors circulating in the past weeks saying that it is not yet sure that this fight will pushed through in the Philippines because there is no official announcement released and frankly, I didn't see any marketing to advertise this bout. But since this fight will happen in Casimero's country, it's safe to say that it will be a sold-out fight.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 20, 2023, 09:41:08 PM

Quote from: carlisle1 on April 20, 2023, 06:10:38 PM

Knowing Casimero, he will be there, I mean, he will hype his name using a social media platform. It's his way of promoting a fight and bring the attention.

Maybe he's working harder to bring explosive outcome in this upcoming fight. He wants something to bring a good hype to his name.

While he can hype the fight, there's no need to hype it too much if it will happen in the Philippines because it's sure to be a sold-out crowd. Since it's not a championship fight yet, it does not deserve to take place in the US. Although there's no official statement yet on the venue, I'm speculating that it will happen in Casimero's home country, and he'll certainly be more inspired fighting in front of his fellow Filipinos.

I think the venue is already fixed as there are no announcements too that the bout is not that sure because the details aren't released. It's just that this bout is not that big that's why we aren't getting any news or have read any article. Say to safe that it is already a fixed event because we are now approaching the end of April and they are looking forward to make the fight happen in May 13.

Date & Time: May 13, 2023 at 7:00 AM (ET)
Place: Okada Manila Hotel and Casino (Paranaque City, Metro Manila, Philipines)
Tale of the Tape: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/750516-nghitumbwa-vs-casimero-fillipus-nghitumbwa-vs-john-riel-quadro-alas-casimero

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This is indeed a walk in the park for Casimero. Nghitumbwa is nothing at Casimero's level. He will just be sent in Casimero's home country to be fed to the lion. But Casimero should first make sure that he is in perfect condition so that this fight will not be compromised as well just like his previous fights. And even if Nghitumbwa is just really somebody to defeat, as always in boxing, he could still upset the favorite. Casimero should cleanly knockout Nghitumbwa early in the fight to again gain attention and get better opponents.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on April 20, 2023, 06:10:38 PM

Knowing Casimero, he will be there, I mean, he will hype his name using a social media platform. It's his way of promoting a fight and bring the attention.

Maybe he's working harder to bring explosive outcome in this upcoming fight. He wants something to bring a good hype to his name.

While he can hype the fight, there's no need to hype it too much if it will happen in the Philippines because it's sure to be a sold-out crowd. Since it's not a championship fight yet, it does not deserve to take place in the US. Although there's no official statement yet on the venue, I'm speculating that it will happen in Casimero's home country, and he'll certainly be more inspired fighting in front of his fellow Filipinos.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 20, 2023, 03:31:25 AM

I really hope Casimero is training like he is fighting a championship fight. When he fought in Korea earlier, he left his country and trained in Thailand to keep away from distractions. Now I heard he is training in Cebu, Philippines but together with Nonito Donaire who is also to challenge another title. It does not guarantee that Casimero can focus though since he is most likely not staying in the same house with Donaire.

Casimero better be ready for any kind of style if he wants to become a champion. Inoue might be heavy-handed but he is not the type of fighter that wants to brawl. Fulton and Tapales can brawl but they are pretty much technical fighters as well. Casimero gets schooled by any of these fighters if he is only expecting them to brawl.

Speaking of training, i think Casimero is on the right track. He's been training on one of Cebu's finest boxing gym, Omega boxing gym which is his stable back then on the early stage of his career if I'm not mistaken.

He even sparred with Inoue's sparring mate (link to the video below) and if i were to decide if he is ready by just looking at the sparring I could say that he is as the bounce and footwork is there and even his sparring partner (Pete Apolinario) said that Casimero hit harder than Inoue which I think a sugar-coated statement from him hehe.

Bottom line, his training for his upcoming fight is okay because so far no distractions from the media as he is not as popular like Manny Pacquaio, and no night life if we are going to base our speculations on his vlog hehe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D61uL6TJ8pM&ab_channel=QuadroAlasit%E2%80%99smyboy

Though he already got a name but he's not as popular as Manny, and for me that count in terms of preparing to this fight,
no destruction will give him enough space to find the best strategy for this fight.

Knowing Casimero, he will be there, I mean, he will hype his name using a social media platform. It's his way of promoting a fight and bring the attention.

Maybe he's working harder to bring explosive outcome in this upcoming fight. He wants something to bring a good hype to his name.

The more the hype the more ticket sales it would be having and also it would be adding up more exposure into his name and would really be having that positive outcome when it comes to its career.
Yes, he might not be as popular like MP but at least he is already been considered to be famous out of this sport but of course he should really be able to prove out because lots had
been expecting for him to win.I dont know if he would be able to have that complete dominance of this upcoming fight but he should really be doing so
because he had those plans on catching up with Inoue then it is really just that right on having this kind of outcome.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 20, 2023, 06:54:48 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on April 20, 2023, 03:31:25 AM

I really hope Casimero is training like he is fighting a championship fight. When he fought in Korea earlier, he left his country and trained in Thailand to keep away from distractions. Now I heard he is training in Cebu, Philippines but together with Nonito Donaire who is also to challenge another title. It does not guarantee that Casimero can focus though since he is most likely not staying in the same house with Donaire.

Casimero better be ready for any kind of style if he wants to become a champion. Inoue might be heavy-handed but he is not the type of fighter that wants to brawl. Fulton and Tapales can brawl but they are pretty much technical fighters as well. Casimero gets schooled by any of these fighters if he is only expecting them to brawl.

Speaking of training, i think Casimero is on the right track. He's been training on one of Cebu's finest boxing gym, Omega boxing gym which is his stable back then on the early stage of his career if I'm not mistaken.

He even sparred with Inoue's sparring mate (link to the video below) and if i were to decide if he is ready by just looking at the sparring I could say that he is as the bounce and footwork is there and even his sparring partner (Pete Apolinario) said that Casimero hit harder than Inoue which I think a sugar-coated statement from him hehe.

Bottom line, his training for his upcoming fight is okay because so far no distractions from the media as he is not as popular like Manny Pacquaio, and no night life if we are going to base our speculations on his vlog hehe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D61uL6TJ8pM&ab_channel=QuadroAlasit%E2%80%99smyboy

Though he already got a name but he's not as popular as Manny, and for me that count in terms of preparing to this fight,
no destruction will give him enough space to find the best strategy for this fight.

Knowing Casimero, he will be there, I mean, he will hype his name using a social media platform. It's his way of promoting a fight and bring the attention.

Maybe he's working harder to bring explosive outcome in this upcoming fight. He wants something to bring a good hype to his name.

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Quote from: Distinctin on April 17, 2023, 09:27:47 PM

If this boxer, Nghitumbwa, comes to fight, then we will certainly see an entertaining bout.

Alternatively, we might see an upset if he truly possesses the legitimate power to defeat a former champion. It's a big challenge for him since people are underestimating him, and boxers like him have nothing to lose. However, if he is truly determined to win, that's when we may witness an upset. Who knows, he might even get an easy ticket to a championship fight by defeating Casimero.

And we could all say he truly earned it in a difficult way if he defeats Casimero and was able to buy his ticket for a championship fight.
He is underestimated in both the betting lines as a heavy underdog and in the media. I don't think he will win too as Casimero is eager enough to win this fight and claim back the respect that he wants and a position on the higher seeds that earns a chance for a title match.

This fight is near with just a month away and yet we don't see market boosters in social media. I had been trying to find some recent updates or training camps and other stuff but I cannot find one. I guess it won't be a much popular fight.
This is the only recent news that I bumped into.
https://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/498675/paras-to-fight-japanese-boxer-hanaba-in-casimero-nghitumbwa-undercard

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This developed as Vince Paras, a former world title challenger fighting under Sanman Boxing Gym, faces Japanese Hayumu Hanada in a 10-rounder non-title showdown in the undercard.
The bout is a fitting replacement for the Carl Jammes Martin - Jun Ikegawa bout which was cancelled after the former suffered injury in training.

That will remain as a big if for now because Nghitumbwa will have to prove himself first as he is still a nameless boxer and I know that Casimero will not make a mistake this time because he is looking for some statement to give himself a good push while climbing the ladder towards the top.

Unfortunately, Casimero haven't had any good exposures locally (TV and news outlets) up until now that the fight is already nearing and I know it because we're both from the same country. He could use a good exposure so that the people will know that a Filipino former champion at 118 got a fight inside the Philippines and is now fighting his way at 122 towards the top and redeem what he have lost in his previous division.

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Quote from: Jating on April 20, 2023, 06:57:19 AM

^ Thanks for this update, I wonder though want happen to the court case he had as someone has accuses Casimero of rape way back? I do hope that there are no merits on that case and Casimero has move on already.

I think that was just part of the demolition job, i mean the purpose of that one is to distract Casimero from training and of course there is no truth to it or no merit like you said. I've even read rumors that it was the brainchild of Sean Gibbons as we all know that their relationship went sour few years ago but i think Casimero has already move on in that controversy.

Quote from: Jating on April 20, 2023, 06:57:19 AM

And it seems like his training is solid by the looks of it, as you have said, there are no distractions and he is focus because this is still a big fight for him in front of his thousands of fans and really wanted to see him in action.

Solid indeed, he really needs to train hard and never let his guard down as to not derail his plans on future big fights in the 122lbs division.

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^ Thanks for this update, I wonder though want happen to the court case he had as someone has accuses Casimero of rape way back? I do hope that there are no merits on that case and Casimero has move on already.

And it seems like his training is solid by the looks of it, as you have said, there are no distractions and he is focus because this is still a big fight for him in front of his thousands of fans and really wanted to see him in action.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 20, 2023, 03:31:25 AM

I really hope Casimero is training like he is fighting a championship fight. When he fought in Korea earlier, he left his country and trained in Thailand to keep away from distractions. Now I heard he is training in Cebu, Philippines but together with Nonito Donaire who is also to challenge another title. It does not guarantee that Casimero can focus though since he is most likely not staying in the same house with Donaire.

Casimero better be ready for any kind of style if he wants to become a champion. Inoue might be heavy-handed but he is not the type of fighter that wants to brawl. Fulton and Tapales can brawl but they are pretty much technical fighters as well. Casimero gets schooled by any of these fighters if he is only expecting them to brawl.

Speaking of training, i think Casimero is on the right track. He's been training on one of Cebu's finest boxing gym, Omega boxing gym which is his stable back then on the early stage of his career if I'm not mistaken.

He even sparred with Inoue's sparring mate (link to the video below) and if i were to decide if he is ready by just looking at the sparring I could say that he is as the bounce and footwork is there and even his sparring partner (Pete Apolinario) said that Casimero hit harder than Inoue which I think a sugar-coated statement from him hehe.

Bottom line, his training for his upcoming fight is okay because so far no distractions from the media as he is not as popular like Manny Pacquaio, and no night life if we are going to base our speculations on his vlog hehe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D61uL6TJ8pM&ab_channel=QuadroAlasit%E2%80%99smyboy

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Quote from: carlisle1 on April 17, 2023, 03:26:52 PM

He needs to be impressive to attract more interest from the promoters. Even his opponent's is not that known fighter he
should still condition his body and train for the fight preparation.

I mean a kind of preparation same like when he's facing a decent fighter, he should treat every fight as an opportunity to bring the attention
of the fans, to help him hype his name inside this new division.

Casimero never disappoints us every time he is in the ring. The only reason why he can't win by KO is that his opponents often quit early. Just like his previous fight, instead of going toe-to-toe, his opponent didn't want to take more beating and acted like he was punched illegally, resulting in a no contest. If this boxer, Nghitumbwa, comes to fight, then we will certainly see an entertaining bout.

I really hope Casimero is training like he is fighting a championship fight. When he fought in Korea earlier, he left his country and trained in Thailand to keep away from distractions. Now I heard he is training in Cebu, Philippines but together with Nonito Donaire who is also to challenge another title. It does not guarantee that Casimero can focus though since he is most likely not staying in the same house with Donaire.

Casimero better be ready for any kind of style if he wants to become a champion. Inoue might be heavy-handed but he is not the type of fighter that wants to brawl. Fulton and Tapales can brawl but they are pretty much technical fighters as well. Casimero gets schooled by any of these fighters if he is only expecting them to brawl.

He should be training 100% in this fight, this is another do or die for him, if he lost this, it's going to be a big blow as he has a new Japanese manager and obviously his rank will go down and hard to find fights for him.

So he should be extra motivated here and not just underestimate his opponents and he should be proud that he is training with Nonito Donaire in Cebu. Also, this fight in his in Philippines so many fans are going to flock and watch him fight because its seldom that we see him fighting in his home soil as he has been traveling around the world to fight.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 20, 2023, 03:31:25 AM

Casimero better be ready for any kind of style if he wants to become a champion. Inoue might be heavy-handed but he is not the type of fighter that wants to brawl. Fulton and Tapales can brawl but they are pretty much technical fighters as well. Casimero gets schooled by any of these fighters if he is only expecting them to brawl.

Casimero is not very technical and relies heavily on his power. If he gets the timing right, then that's when he can win the fight. Against Rigo, he did not look good because he couldn't hit Rigo with solid shots due to Rigo's quickness. If Rigo was younger, I'm sure he would have gotten the win, although it would have been a boring one.

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Quote from: Distinctin on April 17, 2023, 09:27:47 PM

Quote from: carlisle1 on April 17, 2023, 03:26:52 PM

He needs to be impressive to attract more interest from the promoters. Even his opponent's is not that known fighter he
should still condition his body and train for the fight preparation.

I mean a kind of preparation same like when he's facing a decent fighter, he should treat every fight as an opportunity to bring the attention
of the fans, to help him hype his name inside this new division.

Casimero never disappoints us every time he is in the ring. The only reason why he can't win by KO is that his opponents often quit early. Just like his previous fight, instead of going toe-to-toe, his opponent didn't want to take more beating and acted like he was punched illegally, resulting in a no contest. If this boxer, Nghitumbwa, comes to fight, then we will certainly see an entertaining bout.

I really hope Casimero is training like he is fighting a championship fight. When he fought in Korea earlier, he left his country and trained in Thailand to keep away from distractions. Now I heard he is training in Cebu, Philippines but together with Nonito Donaire who is also to challenge another title. It does not guarantee that Casimero can focus though since he is most likely not staying in the same house with Donaire.

Casimero better be ready for any kind of style if he wants to become a champion. Inoue might be heavy-handed but he is not the type of fighter that wants to brawl. Fulton and Tapales can brawl but they are pretty much technical fighters as well. Casimero gets schooled by any of these fighters if he is only expecting them to brawl.

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Quote from: Silberman on April 19, 2023, 11:55:07 PM

I hope this does not happen, as much as Casimero is at fault for the situation he is in, at the same time it would be a shame if his talent was buried by the series of circumstances which surrounded him, he needs to win this fight and do so with authority, and then try to look for a fight for the title or at least he needs to become an official challenger, as the longer he takes to get a fight for the title the harder it would be for him to get that chance.

Let's trust him to get an impressive win in this fight. He knows what to do, and if he can beat opponents who are champions, then I guess Nghitumbwa is not going to be a problem for him. He is more than capable of scoring a knockout, and who knows, we might see him in a championship fight after this one. However, whatever happens next, what matters now is that he should not lose. One step at a time, and eventually, the right time will come.

Yes, that is the only thing that can we do is to trust John Riel can he can still bang and shows his power against Nghitumbwa and beat him via knockout. This is the perfect time for him at this super bantamweight, so that he can improved his ranking this year and maybe he will be given the chance to fight again for the belt or at least face a name fighter in this division.

So I think Casimero is a win win situation and should not lose this fight. Because this is a big opportunity for him, specially for him to show his fans in the Philippines as what he is one of their best champion before and will do it again to become another belt holder in the super bantamweight.

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Quote from: Silberman on April 19, 2023, 11:55:07 PM

I hope this does not happen, as much as Casimero is at fault for the situation he is in, at the same time it would be a shame if his talent was buried by the series of circumstances which surrounded him, he needs to win this fight and do so with authority, and then try to look for a fight for the title or at least he needs to become an official challenger, as the longer he takes to get a fight for the title the harder it would be for him to get that chance.

Let's trust him to get an impressive win in this fight. He knows what to do, and if he can beat opponents who are champions, then I guess Nghitumbwa is not going to be a problem for him. He is more than capable of scoring a knockout, and who knows, we might see him in a championship fight after this one. However, whatever happens next, what matters now is that he should not lose. One step at a time, and eventually, the right time will come.

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Quote from: Natalim on April 19, 2023, 07:47:06 AM

Quote from: jakelyson on April 18, 2023, 02:23:15 PM

Well, even though this is an easy fight for Casimero, all of the fights that he is likely to accept he must win and this is a fast track for him to get the title match he really wants, but the commissions would likely want to test him 1st if he learned are lessons, this is the hardship of John Riel Caseimero, he needs to fight in order to return what he lost, so getting back in his feet really required something, so he would surely need some easy fight like this gaining momentum,

Of course, he is starting in a new division, so he needs to improve his ranking to become the top challenger for the champion. We say this will be an easy fight for Casimero, but what if he loses? Could it be the end of his career?

I'm not hoping that he will lose, but I see the possibility since his opponent is also a knockout artist. You know, anything can happen in the ring, especially when both fighters are KO artists.

I hope this does not happen, as much as Casimero is at fault for the situation he is in, at the same time it would be a shame if his talent was buried by the series of circumstances which surrounded him, he needs to win this fight and do so with authority, and then try to look for a fight for the title or at least he needs to become an official challenger, as the longer he takes to get a fight for the title the harder it would be for him to get that chance.

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