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He needs to secure this win if he really wanted to create his name in this new division, losing a fight to unknown fighter
will put his career in danger. I mean, if he will lose, then interest from big promoters will be lessened or possibly be forgotten.

Unlike if he will win and take this fight in a much easier as how fans expected him,
the chance of bringing him to a contender for a title holder is possible.

We don't know what might happen after this, but it's really important that Casimero will win every single fight that being scheduled for him.

I got your point mate that for Casimero to fight for a championship, he needs to win all his fights before that and the good thing about his promoter right now is not forcing the issue, and seems to me that they are carefully selecting opponents to fight their ward and even though with that scenario, Casimero himself is not complaining since he earns substantial amount enough to have a not so lavish lifestyle.

Nothing has leaked so far as who will be next opponent of Quadro Alas but one thing is sure that it would not be Inoue.



Well, he doesn't have much of a choice because he could've been more comfortable now if his weight weren't an issue in his previous weight class. Anyway, a defeat is the least thing that Casimero and his camp needed because that will surely mean that his career will go down drastically especially after the fact that he was just defeated by a regular boxer who is so unknown that most of the boxers in the industry don't know about him. What he need is a kind of fight that will help him prepare against the champs yet a secure one while he's still in the lower bracket so that the chance of getting a defeat is lesser.

A defeat at this stage of his career could mean the end of his colorful journey in the boxing world, I mean the promoter's interest in him will be gone if he will be defeated by an unknown boxer but that scenario is a very slim possibility though that might happen but i think this time it won't because like I said above, this is just a tune-up or a "keep busy" fight before going for a belt.

On the promoter's side, i think they are milking Casimero as he is one of the most popular boxers in the Philippines at the moment, though this is not a big fight but at least they could profit through sponsorships and VIP tickets.

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Now if Casimero will lose this one, there's no need for him to continue his career anymore as I think it's already safe to assume that he can't get big fights because he just lost this bout. Just in-case though.

I agree, a loss in this fight will definitely put a stain on Casimero's career and name, and I bet he will have a hard time having some future fights ahead of him if he will be defeated against an unknown boxer. If that happens, Nghitumbwa will be the one who will proceed as defeating Casimero will surely give a lot of attention including the fights.

Moreover, Casimero should just retire because he's not that young anymore to start at the bottom of the food chain again and nobody will be interested on fighting him anymore as fighting him won't give them the benefits that they wanted as Casimero will be just another somebody in the industry if that happens.

But on the bright side, I'm sure that John Riel Casimero won't let that happen.

He will be back to zero at this weight class and will have a difficult time to get a chance to crack or get a title shot. That's why eventhough his opponent is not known, he still needs to win this and as we have been saying, he should knockout this guy to send a message to his opponent and the governing body that he is ripe for another chance to fight for a world title again.

Chances though are slim for Casimero to lose fight, it will be in his hometown and so it will give him energy to show a good fight for his fans in the Philippines.
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Now if Casimero will lose this one, there's no need for him to continue his career anymore as I think it's already safe to assume that he can't get big fights because he just lost this bout. Just in-case though.

I agree, a loss in this fight will definitely put a stain on Casimero's career and name, and I bet he will have a hard time having some future fights ahead of him if he will be defeated against an unknown boxer. If that happens, Nghitumbwa will be the one who will proceed as defeating Casimero will surely give a lot of attention including the fights.

Moreover, Casimero should just retire because he's not that young anymore to start at the bottom of the food chain again and nobody will be interested on fighting him anymore as fighting him won't give them the benefits that they wanted as Casimero will be just another somebody in the industry if that happens.

But on the bright side, I'm sure that John Riel Casimero won't let that happen.
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Well, he doesn't have much of a choice because he could've been more comfortable now if his weight weren't an issue in his previous weight class. Anyway, a defeat is the least thing that Casimero and his camp needed because that will surely mean that his career will go down drastically especially after the fact that he was just defeated by a regular boxer who is so unknown that most of the boxers in the industry don't know about him. What he need is a kind of fight that will help him prepare against the champs yet a secure one while he's still in the lower bracket so that the chance of getting a defeat is lesser.

Hmm actually based on stats Nghitumbwa has a good stats as well even though he is not well known, I've seen his stats somewhere I forget most of his games  are KO, this will be an interesting one for me, it will be few weeks from now. I will surely find some clips of their training it would be very interesting and it might change my bet i think.
Yes if we based on the stats we  will  know that nghitumbwa have a very good stats and also he has 22 wins and 1 losses which is 11 out of 12 win by Knockout which is pretty good enough to face against cashmere that have 32 wins and 4 losses and 22 out of 32 win by knockout so for this fight both fighter can give us a good and close fight. But for me ill support my fellow countrymen casimero to win the game.
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Well, he doesn't have much of a choice because he could've been more comfortable now if his weight weren't an issue in his previous weight class. Anyway, a defeat is the least thing that Casimero and his camp needed because that will surely mean that his career will go down drastically especially after the fact that he was just defeated by a regular boxer who is so unknown that most of the boxers in the industry don't know about him. What he need is a kind of fight that will help him prepare against the champs yet a secure one while he's still in the lower bracket so that the chance of getting a defeat is lesser.

Hmm actually based on stats Nghitumbwa has a good stats as well even though he is not well known, I've seen his stats somewhere I forget most of his games  are KO, this will be an interesting one for me, it will be few weeks from now. I will surely find some clips of their training it would be very interesting and it might change my bet i think.
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He needs to secure this win if he really wanted to create his name in this new division, losing a fight to unknown fighter
will put his career in danger. I mean, if he will lose, then interest from big promoters will be lessened or possibly be forgotten.

Unlike if he will win and take this fight in a much easier as how fans expected him,
the chance of bringing him to a contender for a title holder is possible.

We don't know what might happen after this, but it's really important that Casimero will win every single fight that being scheduled for him.

I got your point mate that for Casimero to fight for a championship, he needs to win all his fights before that and the good thing about his promoter right now is not forcing the issue, and seems to me that they are carefully selecting opponents to fight their ward and even though with that scenario, Casimero himself is not complaining since he earns substantial amount enough to have a not so lavish lifestyle.

Nothing has leaked so far as who will be next opponent of Quadro Alas but one thing is sure that it would not be Inoue.



Well, he doesn't have much of a choice because he could've been more comfortable now if his weight weren't an issue in his previous weight class. Anyway, a defeat is the least thing that Casimero and his camp needed because that will surely mean that his career will go down drastically especially after the fact that he was just defeated by a regular boxer who is so unknown that most of the boxers in the industry don't know about him. What he need is a kind of fight that will help him prepare against the champs yet a secure one while he's still in the lower bracket so that the chance of getting a defeat is lesser.
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Winding down.
We never know what will be the outcome we are all expecting from how we speculate the possible outcome.
But it's easy to predict the winner of this fight because the opponent of Casimero is not on his level if we base it on the books.

This would just be a tune-up fight for him, not a big threat that could ruin his career. I'm sure Casimero will not allow that as he will continue to train and make a headline with an impressive win.

People need to view him as a top-level fighter, so eventually, he will get a championship fight in this new division.

I bet he will, maybe next year because there's no hurdle or a stumbling block on his career now like what he have in his previous weight class where almost every fights are not yet sure to push through because his own body is the main problem as it is limiting him to make more fights.

Against this unknown fighter, I got no doubts that he will have a hard time but I sure do hope that he will have an interesting fight as a preparation before he faces the champion of this division. Nevertheless, John Riel Casimero will dominate this fight.

would be interesting if in case casimero will lose this fight. don't know how he will face his fans if he lose to unfamiliar name in boxing. the record actually of his opponent is not bad. so they should not take that for granted. as his opponent has very good reason to beat him, they will for sure do a rigid training. so let's talk after this bout is finished. if casimero wins, good. but if not, maybe time to change his career.

If we're talking about local fights, then that record is indeed not bad at all but we are not talking about the international ring where big boys are fighting for their name and glory. Not to underestimate this unknown boxer but it's best for him to prove what he got first because people aren't really interested with boxers with a records like that.

Now if Casimero will lose this one, there's no need for him to continue his career anymore as I think it's already safe to assume that he can't get big fights because he just lost this bout. Just in-case though.
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He needs to secure this win if he really wanted to create his name in this new division, losing a fight to unknown fighter
will put his career in danger. I mean, if he will lose, then interest from big promoters will be lessened or possibly be forgotten.

Unlike if he will win and take this fight in a much easier as how fans expected him,
the chance of bringing him to a contender for a title holder is possible.

We don't know what might happen after this, but it's really important that Casimero will win every single fight that being scheduled for him.

I got your point mate that for Casimero to fight for a championship, he needs to win all his fights before that and the good thing about his promoter right now is not forcing the issue, and seems to me that they are carefully selecting opponents to fight their ward and even though with that scenario, Casimero himself is not complaining since he earns substantial amount enough to have a not so lavish lifestyle.

Nothing has leaked so far as who will be next opponent of Quadro Alas but one thing is sure that it would not be Inoue.



This must be what casimero should do He must win every his fight in order to fight again for championships all he need to do now is his name must back in the top. And once he do that then for sure he has a chance to be given the opportunity to fight the current champion. About inoue and quadro alas one thing for sure it would be in the long run to fight each other cause we all know that inuoe is already in the top and quadro alas need to stand up again so that he can fight inoue .
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He needs to secure this win if he really wanted to create his name in this new division, losing a fight to unknown fighter
will put his career in danger. I mean, if he will lose, then interest from big promoters will be lessened or possibly be forgotten.

Unlike if he will win and take this fight in a much easier as how fans expected him,
the chance of bringing him to a contender for a title holder is possible.

We don't know what might happen after this, but it's really important that Casimero will win every single fight that being scheduled for him.

I got your point mate that for Casimero to fight for a championship, he needs to win all his fights before that and the good thing about his promoter right now is not forcing the issue, and seems to me that they are carefully selecting opponents to fight their ward and even though with that scenario, Casimero himself is not complaining since he earns substantial amount enough to have a not so lavish lifestyle.

Nothing has leaked so far as who will be next opponent of Quadro Alas but one thing is sure that it would not be Inoue.

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would be interesting if in case casimero will lose this fight. don't know how he will face his fans if he lose to unfamiliar name in boxing. the record actually of his opponent is not bad. so they should not take that for granted. as his opponent has very good reason to beat him, they will for sure do a rigid training. so let's talk after this bout is finished. if casimero wins, good. but if not, maybe time to change his career.
It won't be interesting for him because promoters will lose interest in him. If Casimero loses against an unknown fighter, it would be a major upset in the sport of boxing, and it would be challenging for him to regain his championship title. Boxing is a highly competitive world, and rewards are reserved for those who perform well and do not lose crucial fights.

He needs to secure this win if he really wanted to create his name in this new division, losing a fight to unknown fighter
will put his career in danger. I mean, if he will lose, then interest from big promoters will be lessened or possibly be forgotten.

Unlike if he will win and take this fight in a much easier as how fans expected him,
the chance of bringing him to a contender for a title holder is possible.

We don't know what might happen after this, but it's really important that Casimero will win every single fight that being scheduled for him.
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would be interesting if in case casimero will lose this fight. don't know how he will face his fans if he lose to unfamiliar name in boxing. the record actually of his opponent is not bad. so they should not take that for granted. as his opponent has very good reason to beat him, they will for sure do a rigid training. so let's talk after this bout is finished. if casimero wins, good. but if not, maybe time to change his career.
It won't be interesting for him because promoters will lose interest in him. If Casimero loses against an unknown fighter, it would be a major upset in the sport of boxing, and it would be challenging for him to regain his championship title. Boxing is a highly competitive world, and rewards are reserved for those who perform well and do not lose crucial fights.
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I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.

That's true, but let's hope that Nghitumbwa will not be a different fighter in the ring. His records indicate that he is an aggressive fighter, but sometimes boxers change their style when they face a superior opponent. This fight is going to be entertaining, and we are expecting to see Casimero face a challenging fight. So, Nghitumbwa better live up to that challenge.
I hope he does not change his style radically, after all the moment he does he is already admitting that he cannot beat his opponent with his main style and strength, and if that is the case then how can he expect to beat Casimero if he will need to use a completely different strategy than what he usually uses? Now some minor adjustments are fine, but a radical adjustment spells doom for most boxers, no matter how skilled and talented they are.

Speaking about chances, radical change in techniques and style will unlikely give any good outcome in a match or fight because it requires patience and time to master those changes that are made prior the fight and looking at the time Nghitumbwa has, he definitely don't have that much time especially against Casimero. But we never know because we are just speaking about chances, I think we should see the outcome first because Nghitumbwa's camp won't be that confident enough if it doesn't work.

Well, if that's the only way that Nghitumbwa's camp sees just to defeat Casimero then they should do it because either way, they need to show their skills and try to give the former champion a hard time because looking at his records, it's not that believable that his power is in par with Casimero as he's just an unknown boxer who and more like a local boxer who doesn't have any good experience at all.
Trying to compare out the stats then its no brainer on whose the ones who do have the upperhand when it comes to experience which we know that Casimero is and now its been tried out to box a certain boxer who do have overall 12 matches but surprisingly his KO win rate is really that big which means that this guy is a heavy puncher which its something not to be that confident on but just like on what most been anticipating
that this wont really be that much of an issue considering that experience is too wide gap plus casimero is also a power puncher too. Who would bet out on how long or many rounds does
Nghitumbwa would last out?  Cheesy
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We never know what will be the outcome we are all expecting from how we speculate the possible outcome.
But it's easy to predict the winner of this fight because the opponent of Casimero is not on his level if we base it on the books.

This would just be a tune-up fight for him, not a big threat that could ruin his career. I'm sure Casimero will not allow that as he will continue to train and make a headline with an impressive win.

People need to view him as a top-level fighter, so eventually, he will get a championship fight in this new division.

I bet he will, maybe next year because there's no hurdle or a stumbling block on his career now like what he have in his previous weight class where almost every fights are not yet sure to push through because his own body is the main problem as it is limiting him to make more fights.

Against this unknown fighter, I got no doubts that he will have a hard time but I sure do hope that he will have an interesting fight as a preparation before he faces the champion of this division. Nevertheless, John Riel Casimero will dominate this fight.

would be interesting if in case casimero will lose this fight. don't know how he will face his fans if he lose to unfamiliar name in boxing. the record actually of his opponent is not bad. so they should not take that for granted. as his opponent has very good reason to beat him, they will for sure do a rigid training. so let's talk after this bout is finished. if casimero wins, good. but if not, maybe time to change his career.
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I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.

That's true, but let's hope that Nghitumbwa will not be a different fighter in the ring. His records indicate that he is an aggressive fighter, but sometimes boxers change their style when they face a superior opponent. This fight is going to be entertaining, and we are expecting to see Casimero face a challenging fight. So, Nghitumbwa better live up to that challenge.
I hope he does not change his style radically, after all the moment he does he is already admitting that he cannot beat his opponent with his main style and strength, and if that is the case then how can he expect to beat Casimero if he will need to use a completely different strategy than what he usually uses? Now some minor adjustments are fine, but a radical adjustment spells doom for most boxers, no matter how skilled and talented they are.

Speaking about chances, radical change in techniques and style will unlikely give any good outcome in a match or fight because it requires patience and time to master those changes that are made prior the fight and looking at the time Nghitumbwa has, he definitely don't have that much time especially against Casimero. But we never know because we are just speaking about chances, I think we should see the outcome first because Nghitumbwa's camp won't be that confident enough if it doesn't work.

Well, if that's the only way that Nghitumbwa's camp sees just to defeat Casimero then they should do it because either way, they need to show their skills and try to give the former champion a hard time because looking at his records, it's not that believable that his power is in par with Casimero as he's just an unknown boxer who and more like a local boxer who doesn't have any good experience at all.
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We never know what will be the outcome we are all expecting from how we speculate the possible outcome.
But it's easy to predict the winner of this fight because the opponent of Casimero is not on his level if we base it on the books.

This would just be a tune-up fight for him, not a big threat that could ruin his career. I'm sure Casimero will not allow that as he will continue to train and make a headline with an impressive win.

People need to view him as a top-level fighter, so eventually, he will get a championship fight in this new division.

I bet he will, maybe next year because there's no hurdle or a stumbling block on his career now like what he have in his previous weight class where almost every fights are not yet sure to push through because his own body is the main problem as it is limiting him to make more fights.

Against this unknown fighter, I got no doubts that he will have a hard time but I sure do hope that he will have an interesting fight as a preparation before he faces the champion of this division. Nevertheless, John Riel Casimero will dominate this fight.
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Winding down.

I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.

That's true, but let's hope that Nghitumbwa will not be a different fighter in the ring. His records indicate that he is an aggressive fighter, but sometimes boxers change their style when they face a superior opponent. This fight is going to be entertaining, and we are expecting to see Casimero face a challenging fight. So, Nghitumbwa better live up to that challenge.
I hope he does not change his style radically, after all the moment he does he is already admitting that he cannot beat his opponent with his main style and strength, and if that is the case then how can he expect to beat Casimero if he will need to use a completely different strategy than what he usually uses? Now some minor adjustments are fine, but a radical adjustment spells doom for most boxers, no matter how skilled and talented they are.

Speaking about chances, radical change in techniques and style will unlikely give any good outcome in a match or fight because it requires patience and time to master those changes that are made prior the fight and looking at the time Nghitumbwa has, he definitely don't have that much time especially against Casimero. But we never know because we are just speaking about chances, I think we should see the outcome first because Nghitumbwa's camp won't be that confident enough if it doesn't work.
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We never know what will be the outcome we are all expecting from how we speculate the possible outcome.
But it's easy to predict the winner of this fight because the opponent of Casimero is not on his level if we base it on the books.

This would just be a tune-up fight for him, not a big threat that could ruin his career. I'm sure Casimero will not allow that as he will continue to train and make a headline with an impressive win.

People need to view him as a top-level fighter, so eventually, he will get a championship fight in this new division.
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I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.

That's true, but let's hope that Nghitumbwa will not be a different fighter in the ring. His records indicate that he is an aggressive fighter, but sometimes boxers change their style when they face a superior opponent. This fight is going to be entertaining, and we are expecting to see Casimero face a challenging fight. So, Nghitumbwa better live up to that challenge.
I hope he does not change his style radically, after all the moment he does he is already admitting that he cannot beat his opponent with his main style and strength, and if that is the case then how can he expect to beat Casimero if he will need to use a completely different strategy than what he usually uses? Now some minor adjustments are fine, but a radical adjustment spells doom for most boxers, no matter how skilled and talented they are.
Whatever strategy Nghitumbwa chooses to use, it is his choice. However, he needs to understand that he is facing an ex-champion who has not lost in a championship fight in an action-packed fight when he became popular. Casimero is not an easy opponent, and this is a special fight for Nghitumbwa as Casimero is a world-class boxer while he is still trying to become one.
Usually though this type of fighters are going all in if they are going to face a banger like Casimero. So I will assume that Nghitumbwa wil not play soft in this fight. And we try his best to go toe to toe with Casimero and test the champion if he can take his power and vice versa.

But the problem with fighters who go on this route are going to be knockout out being knock down. So it's just a matter on what he will take the power of Casimero. If he taste and knows that he can take it then it's going to be war.
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I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.

That's true, but let's hope that Nghitumbwa will not be a different fighter in the ring. His records indicate that he is an aggressive fighter, but sometimes boxers change their style when they face a superior opponent. This fight is going to be entertaining, and we are expecting to see Casimero face a challenging fight. So, Nghitumbwa better live up to that challenge.
I hope he does not change his style radically, after all the moment he does he is already admitting that he cannot beat his opponent with his main style and strength, and if that is the case then how can he expect to beat Casimero if he will need to use a completely different strategy than what he usually uses? Now some minor adjustments are fine, but a radical adjustment spells doom for most boxers, no matter how skilled and talented they are.
Whatever strategy Nghitumbwa chooses to use, it is his choice. However, he needs to understand that he is facing an ex-champion who has not lost in a championship fight in an action-packed fight when he became popular. Casimero is not an easy opponent, and this is a special fight for Nghitumbwa as Casimero is a world-class boxer while he is still trying to become one.

That can be used as a good motivation to find the right strategy to win against Casimero, most of the time an underdog fighter
find this inspiration to do everything in trying to win the fight.

If he will upset Casimero, which I doubt, as he also needed the win, but giving that possibility Nghitumbwa will receive attention and can
be the spark for his career.

We never know what will be the outcome we are all expecting from how we speculate the possible outcome.
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I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.

That's true, but let's hope that Nghitumbwa will not be a different fighter in the ring. His records indicate that he is an aggressive fighter, but sometimes boxers change their style when they face a superior opponent. This fight is going to be entertaining, and we are expecting to see Casimero face a challenging fight. So, Nghitumbwa better live up to that challenge.
I hope he does not change his style radically, after all the moment he does he is already admitting that he cannot beat his opponent with his main style and strength, and if that is the case then how can he expect to beat Casimero if he will need to use a completely different strategy than what he usually uses? Now some minor adjustments are fine, but a radical adjustment spells doom for most boxers, no matter how skilled and talented they are.
Whatever strategy Nghitumbwa chooses to use, it is his choice. However, he needs to understand that he is facing an ex-champion who has not lost in a championship fight in an action-packed fight when he became popular. Casimero is not an easy opponent, and this is a special fight for Nghitumbwa as Casimero is a world-class boxer while he is still trying to become one.
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