[Boxing] Casimero vs Oguni - October 12 - page 14.

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Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

The ball then is on Inoue's court whether to give Casimero his chance or not. The best thing that Casimero do is win this fight impressively, it might be good if it will be a knockout of the year candidate so that Inoue and his camp might consider him.

And with that, and it seems this is just a cherry pick fight for Casimero, he should win here. Otherwise, if he loses or just win in the judges scorecard, then it might he hard for him to setup a fight with Naoya as they might not be interested and it's like a low reward for them.

Another remarkable aspect of Casimero is his consistent taunting of Inoue, which has led people to believe in his genuine confidence in defeating an exceptionally skilled fighter. He has effectively generated interest in the fight, and now, we're eager to witness it unfold. While Inoue currently holds the championship title, there's no doubt that Casimero will present a tough challenge. His approach is distinct from the kind of competition Inoue has faced in his previous bouts.

That's why it's of utmost importance for the fight with Tapales to take place this year, as it could pave the way for another significant Inoue fight next year.

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 30, 2023, 10:36:29 PM

It is very interesting how far Inoue will get though, he mentioned something like 130 lbs, so not sure if he can go up at 135 lbs as he might lose every advantage he had, like speed and power and timing.

Maybe there is some incentives for him to stay and fight guys like Nery, Casimero and clean up the division. But the problem is that if you have all the belts in one division, each and every governing body will have to fight their mandatories and it's going to be hard for that. So once he unify, it's either he has to follow the mandatory of at least one of the belts he hold, or drop some of it and just retain what he wanted. Just like the approach of 140 lbs unified champion in Josh Taylor.

His promoter, Bob, believes that Inoue is better than Pacquiao. Therefore, they might be considering breaking Pacman's achievements to reinforce their claim. I have no doubts about Inoue's ascent, but ideally, before that happens, he should have the opportunity to face Casimero in a championship fight, with Casimero as the challenger.

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Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

There is no incentive for Inoue to stay on 122 when all he wants right now is the legacy to get belts as much as possible. He wouldn't wait for someone to fight him unless its a mandatory. Having lots of belts hanging on him after retiring is the next goal for him since he is getting old. Nery might just be the last in that division and then he'll move up until he reaches 135 or maybe super lightweight.

It is very interesting how far Inoue will get though, he mentioned something like 130 lbs, so not sure if he can go up at 135 lbs as he might lose every advantage he had, like speed and power and timing.

Maybe there is some incentives for him to stay and fight guys like Nery, Casimero and clean up the division. But the problem is that if you have all the belts in one division, each and every governing body will have to fight their mandatories and it's going to be hard for that. So once he unify, it's either he has to follow the mandatory of at least one of the belts he hold, or drop some of it and just retain what he wanted. Just like the approach of 140 lbs unified champion in Josh Taylor.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 30, 2023, 06:48:08 AM

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Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

There is no incentive for Inoue to stay on 122 when all he wants right now is the legacy to get belts as much as possible. He wouldn't wait for someone to fight him unless its a mandatory. Having lots of belts hanging on him after retiring is the next goal for him since he is getting old. Nery might just be the last in that division and then he'll move up until he reaches 135 or maybe super lightweight.

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Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

What else can he do? There is no choice but to just accept any available fight. Look at his current state now by doing so, fighting against unranked boxers with only 2 fights at 122 lbs but now currently being ranked #6 by the WBC and ranked #3 by the WBO. It means slowly but surely, the progress is good.

Don't worry about Naoya Inoue. Casimero doesn't need to rush. If Inoue moves up, then Casimero's plan to become a world champion again doesn't change. He will just go straight to his goals to have a taste again of being a champion. But if we look at the possible plan of Naoya Inoue if ever becoming a unified champion at 122, he will not move up right away at 126 and will have a series of title defense first.

Soon, Casimero and Inoue will catch up. I'm sure about that.

Soon... If fate permits them for sure, both fighters will be glad to showcase their individual talents against each other.

I like the chance that promoters will let them make a good amount of money since they've got an unfinished trash-talking
might be a good timing for both camps and the promoters to hype it up.

Though there are many options for Inoue compared to Casimero, all will be depending on how Arum will see potential
profits and advantages before he will go to risk his cash-cow.

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Quote from: bittraffic on August 29, 2023, 09:43:22 PM

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

What else can he do? There is no choice but to just accept any available fight. Look at his current state now by doing so, fighting against unranked boxers with only 2 fights at 122 lbs but now currently being ranked #6 by the WBC and ranked #3 by the WBO. It means slowly but surely, the progress is good.

Don't worry about Naoya Inoue. Casimero doesn't need to rush. If Inoue moves up, then Casimero's plan to become a world champion again doesn't change. He will just go straight to his goals to have a taste again of being a champion. But if we look at the possible plan of Naoya Inoue if ever becoming a unified champion at 122, he will not move up right away at 126 and will have a series of title defense first.

Soon, Casimero and Inoue will catch up. I'm sure about that.

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Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

I think that's the other way around where instead, the Casimero camp is challenging Luis Nery but the latter camp didn't have an interest.

Anyway, doesn't matter anymore as Casimero just needs to take down all opponents on his way. After that, we should see a bright light on his career by having a shot to face Naoya Inoue at the WBO title or unification, if possible, if the monster wins against his counterpart champion, Tapales.

In the past Johnreil Casimero indeed talked many times about fighting Luis Nery of how he beats the Mexican. I guess nobody is ducking between them and they just went separate ways. Also, Nery was already at 122 when Casimero was still fighting at 118 as the WBO champion. Now it's just talks about challenging each other since both of them have no belts so they also know that it may not be worth it. Both fighters were also the ones mentioned as Inoue's targets in his title defense. So the real target is Inoue for the belts and the money. Nery might have a better chance of getting Inoue first since he can be named as the WBC mandatory but he is banned in Japan which means Casimero might get Inoue first. But maybe Casimero and Nery will finally fight each other down the line but for now, they need to take a belt first.

Nery has a higher ranking than Casimero, so it's likely that he will become a mandatory challenger. However, as you mentioned, he is banned in Japan, where the fight would likely take place since Inoue is the champion. Hence, this scenario is unlikely to occur.

For those unaware of why Nery was banned in Japan, you can read the article below:
https://www.ringtv.com/530936-japan-boxing-commission-bans-luis-nery-life/

Regarding the situation, it might be wiser for Casimero to face Nery first. If he wins, he could then potentially go up against Inoue, even if he isn't a mandatory challenger yet. The question remains: would Inoue accept that challenge?

And that is what we are calling, a fight between two explosive fighters in Neri and Casimero, however, it seems that this might not materialized as Casimero will face another Japanese fighter. But his fight with Oguni is being viewed my many as a 'warm-up' fight.

Win-win though for either Nery and Casimero if they class, winner getting Inoue, that is if Inoue remains at super bantamweight as once he beat Tapales and unify the belts again, he might go up at 126 lbs and chance a belt. Another question is, will Inoue remain at 122 lbs if ever he had unified the belt?

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Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

I think that's the other way around where instead, the Casimero camp is challenging Luis Nery but the latter camp didn't have an interest.

Anyway, doesn't matter anymore as Casimero just needs to take down all opponents on his way. After that, we should see a bright light on his career by having a shot to face Naoya Inoue at the WBO title or unification, if possible, if the monster wins against his counterpart champion, Tapales.

In the past Johnreil Casimero indeed talked many times about fighting Luis Nery of how he beats the Mexican. I guess nobody is ducking between them and they just went separate ways. Also, Nery was already at 122 when Casimero was still fighting at 118 as the WBO champion. Now it's just talks about challenging each other since both of them have no belts so they also know that it may not be worth it. Both fighters were also the ones mentioned as Inoue's targets in his title defense. So the real target is Inoue for the belts and the money. Nery might have a better chance of getting Inoue first since he can be named as the WBC mandatory but he is banned in Japan which means Casimero might get Inoue first. But maybe Casimero and Nery will finally fight each other down the line but for now, they need to take a belt first.

Nery has a higher ranking than Casimero, so it's likely that he will become a mandatory challenger. However, as you mentioned, he is banned in Japan, where the fight would likely take place since Inoue is the champion. Hence, this scenario is unlikely to occur.

For those unaware of why Nery was banned in Japan, you can read the article below:
https://www.ringtv.com/530936-japan-boxing-commission-bans-luis-nery-life/

Regarding the situation, it might be wiser for Casimero to face Nery first. If he wins, he could then potentially go up against Inoue, even if he isn't a mandatory challenger yet. The question remains: would Inoue accept that challenge?

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 29, 2023, 06:28:14 PM

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Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

I think that's the other way around where instead, the Casimero camp is challenging Luis Nery but the latter camp didn't have an interest.

Anyway, doesn't matter anymore as Casimero just needs to take down all opponents on his way. After that, we should see a bright light on his career by having a shot to face Naoya Inoue at the WBO title or unification, if possible, if the monster wins against his counterpart champion, Tapales.

In the past Johnreil Casimero indeed talked many times about fighting Luis Nery of how he beats the Mexican. I guess nobody is ducking between them and they just went separate ways. Also, Nery was already at 122 when Casimero was still fighting at 118 as the WBO champion. Now it's just talks about challenging each other since both of them have no belts so they also know that it may not be worth it. Both fighters were also the ones mentioned as Inoue's targets in his title defense. So the real target is Inoue for the belts and the money. Nery might have a better chance of getting Inoue first since he can be named as the WBC mandatory but he is banned in Japan which means Casimero might get Inoue first. But maybe Casimero and Nery will finally fight each other down the line but for now, they need to take a belt first.

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Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

He can do that if he wishes to but I don't think he is in a good position right now to start his journey again at 126 right from the bottom just to get ahead from Inoue so that he can have fight with him, you see, Casimero is already 35 years old and will flip another page next February and so I don't think that it will good for him to start all over again.

What should he do is fight Luis Nery to get a safe seat as a mandatory challenger when the fight of Tapales vs Inoue will be over.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 30, 2023, 06:48:08 AM

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Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

The ball then is on Inoue's court whether to give Casimero his chance or not. The best thing that Casimero do is win this fight impressively, it might be good if it will be a knockout of the year candidate so that Inoue and his camp might consider him.

And with that, and it seems this is just a cherry pick fight for Casimero, he should win here. Otherwise, if he loses or just win in the judges scorecard, then it might he hard for him to setup a fight with Naoya as they might not be interested and it's like a low reward for them.

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Quote from: bittraffic on August 29, 2023, 09:43:22 PM

Quote from: Darker45 on August 29, 2023, 08:45:41 PM

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

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Quote from: Darker45 on August 29, 2023, 08:45:41 PM

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

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Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

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At last, John Riel Casimero will now finally have a fight again and return to the ring.

He really needs more fights, even against anyone or unranked, as he's building and climbing his ranking (currently at #3 on WBO) in order to be a contender again here at 122 lbs. The goal is to be recognized and he should have an impressive win here like what he did in his debut fight at 122 against Ryo Akaho. He really needs to make sound again in this division as his previous fight against Namibias' Fillipus Nghitumbwa wasn't that impressive although he won the score at all 3 judges and was able to get an unanimous win.

Quote from: inthelongrun on August 29, 2023, 08:01:25 AM

Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

I think that's the other way around where instead, the Casimero camp is challenging Luis Nery but the latter camp didn't have an interest.

Anyway, doesn't matter anymore as Casimero just needs to take down all opponents on his way. After that, we should see a bright light on his career by having a shot to face Naoya Inoue at the WBO title or unification, if possible, if the monster wins against his counterpart champion, Tapales.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on August 28, 2023, 02:48:46 AM

Casimero is obviously a huge favorite in this fight because Oguni wasn't competitive anymore like he was been used in 2016 and older. Casimero should able to win via KO to impress the other, winning via decision isn't really good when he fight not with a strong boxer.

Although the fight will happen in Japan, but I don't think we will see an unfair judgements.

Not sure about unfair judgment, but there will surely be some form of bias from the crowd for sure. Casimero is poised to win this bout given that Oguni is older and possibly a lot weaker in terms of strength and overall speed. However, I should not jump on the gun this fast - Casimero can still be caught off-guard by the Japanese boxer. Anyway, odds will probably favor Casimero given his consecutive wins against different boxers.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on August 29, 2023, 07:03:19 AM

I am not sure what happened that warranted Casimero being stripped of his WBO world bantamweight title in 2022. He supposedly violated some British BS ban on sauna use for reducing weight?

Yes, he was caught trying to lose additional pounds thru sauna during the fight week, which is forbidden by the BBBoC. And with that he was stripped of his WBO bantamweight belt.

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on August 29, 2023, 07:03:19 AM

This is the first time I have heard of such nonsense and to be honest, I think it was very unfair. I hope to see him becoming a world champion in spite of this. Oguni is going to be an obviously tough opponent and if Casimero loses this fight it will be a huge setback to him. He almost lost to Ryo Akaho but was saved by an overturned decision, which was very lucky. I do not expect him to be just as lucky this time, should he lose.

Harsh as it may, he needs to follow the rules and obviously, members of his team didn't know that. And what makes it worst is that he was caught thru his Youtube channel. the Ryo fight was controversial, but this fight should be a make or break for him. As others have stated, tune up fight for him and so this should be an easy victory for John Riel.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on August 28, 2023, 06:06:57 PM

This is just a regular fight, I do not think that there is a huge money involved it may be a decent amount at best.

With regards to money, I think he got a bigger amount received now with Treasure Boxing Promotion than with MP Promotion based on how generous he is with his friends and families. In his YouTube vlog, he built a stable on which I think cost a hefty amount then he bought a Ford Ranger for himself, i know he can afford that one but he didn't show/experience it when he was with MP Promotions.

Big name or not, I think Quadro Alas will receive a hefty amount that is stipulated in the contract.

Yes, most likely this is why he sign with the Japanese, and so far they have delivered a good fight and purse for Casimero. And I do agree that he is very active this year, I remember he had one fight in the Philippines and then this one, so it makes 2 fight a year (I forget if he had one earlier this year).

And he needs to be active as well, I mean Casimero is not getting any younger and so very active makes his power and reflex still at par with some of the big punchers at 122 lbs right now.

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Quote from: Taskford on August 29, 2023, 07:20:38 AM

This fight could regain his fame knowing that it has been jeopardize by some circumstances before but if he lose on this match against Oguni I don't think this is an indicator that he should resign since if he can still fight for more opponent then why not? Looking at his current health his still on his best shape so beating up his opponent still possible. But why thinking about losing? Don't forget its Casimero and he's still a great boxer with huge fighting spirit to defeat all his opponent so for sure with this match we can see a great fight here.

Against an unknown opponent? I don't think so, he needs a big name to regain his reputation and fame Even if he knocks out Oguni like we expect him to do he will just gain a win and hopefully a step toward a title fight if his promoters can do that, I don't rule out an upset but Casimero has never been knocked out, he gets hurt but he always manages to come back.

Now that he is in a new promotion he will try to impress his new promoters, but hey these are Japanese promoters so there's a possibility of an Inoue showdown in Japan they can easily set it up since the Japanese are good in negotiations.

If the price is right, there's no impossible for Inoue's handlers, but we should wait for the outcome of this fight first, then go to that
discussion after.

In terms of upset, that's always present or I mean that's always possible inside this sport, Casimero needs this win
if he's chasing for a title fight, a continuous win will allow him to hype his ranking and possible to challenge the
current champ.

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Quote from: Taskford on August 29, 2023, 07:20:38 AM

This fight could regain his fame knowing that it has been jeopardize by some circumstances before but if he lose on this match against Oguni I don't think this is an indicator that he should resign since if he can still fight for more opponent then why not? Looking at his current health his still on his best shape so beating up his opponent still possible. But why thinking about losing? Don't forget its Casimero and he's still a great boxer with huge fighting spirit to defeat all his opponent so for sure with this match we can see a great fight here.

Against an unknown opponent? I don't think so, he needs a big name to regain his reputation and fame Even if he knocks out Oguni like we expect him to do he will just gain a win and hopefully a step toward a title fight if his promoters can do that, I don't rule out an upset but Casimero has never been knocked out, he gets hurt but he always manages to come back.

Now that he is in a new promotion he will try to impress his new promoters, but hey these are Japanese promoters so there's a possibility of an Inoue showdown in Japan they can easily set it up since the Japanese are good in negotiations.

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