Topic: [Boxing] Casimero vs Oguni - October 12 - page 15. (Read 1877 times)

Johnreil Casimero is actually bashed a lot these days and one of the reasons behind it is the choice of his next opponent. This is only the second fight of Yukinori Oguni in 4 years and his last fight which was more than a year already ended in a draw against a mediocre opponent.

Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

With regards to Casimero choosing a top 5 in the WBC rankings, I believe the target is becoming the WBO mandatory where he is more recognized just in case he is not getting the winner of Inoue-Tapales. WBO #1 Sam Goodman is already the IBF mandatory while Nery the WBO #2 has also won a WBC eliminator already so these guys are waiting for their shots at the titles. And it also means that Casimero is unofficially the real WBO #1 unless someone below overtakes his ranking. The WBA did not rank Casimero in their top 10 and it already mandated former champions Akhmadaliev and Kameda to fight with the winner being the mandatory.

This fight could regain his fame knowing that it has been jeopardize by some circumstances before but if he lose on this match against Oguni I don't think this is an indicator that he should resign since if he can still fight for more opponent then why not? Looking at his current health his still on his best shape so beating up his opponent still possible. But why thinking about losing? Don't forget its Casimero and he's still a great boxer with huge fighting spirit to defeat all his opponent so for sure with this match we can see a great fight here.

I am not sure what happened that warranted Casimero being stripped of his WBO world bantamweight title in 2022. He supposedly violated some British BS ban on sauna use for reducing weight? This is the first time I have heard of such nonsense and to be honest, I think it was very unfair. I hope to see him becoming a world champion in spite of this. Oguni is going to be an obviously tough opponent and if Casimero loses this fight it will be a huge setback to him. He almost lost to Ryo Akaho but was saved by an overturned decision, which was very lucky. I do not expect him to be just as lucky this time, should he lose.

If this scenario were to unfold, it might be wise for Casimero to consider retirement after the fight. This matchup is essentially a tune-up fight for him, and losing at this stage could be detrimental to his career. Casimero has been carefully cultivating a strong record to position himself for a future championship bout, possibly against Inoue. Losing this fight might jeopardize that opportunity. It's clear that he cannot afford to lose, given his aspirations and the strategic path he's been taking.

Fans would likely be more interested, and the fight could potentially outsell the Tapales vs. Inoue matchup, given the expected one-sided outcome of the latter. The anticipation of witnessing Inoue's victory over Tapales and Casimero's impressive performance against Oguni is building. However, these bouts might take place in the following year, possibly before the second quarter, allowing both fighters ample time to prepare.

It's important to note that Casimero's title being stripped isn't solely the fault of his promoter or anyone else. He must bear the consequences of his actions but should also remain steadfast in his pursuit of reclaiming a championship title.

Knowing Casimero he'll find a way to be on top again, MP promotions lately did not give him a decent fight or a title fight something Casimero deserves, Since he was stripped of the title, he never got a title shot from prestigious boxing organizations, this fight is not a challenging fight, can you imagine if after this fight there is an offer to fight Inoue in case he unified the title and move up to Super Bantamweight.
At some point, Inoue and Casimero's paths will cross so Casimero should have decent fights now in preparation for big opponents like Inoue, I hope after he disposes of Oguni he'll get the title shot he deserves.

For us, it might not be that big considering that we can compare this to some fights which are undoubtedly bigger as the arena itself can say that it will be a big fight but for the Japanese people, this is somehow a big fight for them because a one of their own will fight against John Riel Casimero who is also known as an executioner of Japanese boxers.

They might or will hope that maybe this Oguni can pull an upset against our own Casimero even if their boxer's credentials aren't that much.

With regards to money, I think he got a bigger amount received now with Treasure Boxing Promotion than with MP Promotion based on how generous he is with his friends and families. In his YouTube vlog, he built a stable on which I think cost a hefty amount then he bought a Ford Ranger for himself, i know he can afford that one but he didn't show/experience it when he was with MP Promotions.

Big name or not, I think Quadro Alas will receive a hefty amount that is stipulated in the contract.

Johnriel Casimero is a professional boxer who has also become a boxing star for the Philippines in international competitions or world championships.
Johnriel Casimero also said in public that he would surprise everyone of course for his country the Philippines that he would again become world champion after the WBO world bantamweight belt which he held was stripped because of a violation of the BBBofC ban.
When looking at these two boxers there is still a chance for Johnriel Casimero to beat Yukinori Oguni and make a good debut in Treasure Boxing Promotions.

I guess that will suffice instead of not having some fights this year to keep him warm while waiting for the big fight that he wanted. But I couldn't help but think why Oguni and not someone else in the Top 5 of WBC rankings because that is what he needed and not a tune-up fight-like just to stay active. This will surely not please people because Oguni is not that famous even if he was once an IBF champion.

Regardless, I'm also hoping just like you guys, that Casimero can finish this fight without having serious damages on his side so that he can have another fight somewhere in December or early January.

Yes, at least Casimero is staying active rather than just waiting for a big fight that might make him rusty if it takes so long. Yukinori Oguni became the champion a long time ago. In 2016 he outboxed then-dangerous KO artist Yonatan Pena and took the IBF belt. Too bad though as he lost it in his first title defense.

A December return for Casimero is still possible but only if he makes an easy work on Oguni. But if Casimero sustains some cuts and spends a lot of energy in this fight then he needs at least a month of rest plus two months to train so that makes him only available in January of next year. Hopefully, we'll see Casimero winning easily because this is only a tune-up fight for him. 

Looking at the statistics and activity of Oguni, I also think that this is a tune-up fight for Casimero for his future career title fight.  If he knocks out the Japanese fighter, it can probably give enough impression to consider him as one of the top contenders for a title fight.  The record of Oguni simply tells that this can be a walk in the park fight for Casimero unless it ends up in the hand of the judges that may possibly give Casimero a loss (Japanese judges tend to give a biased result and always favor their fighter) but hopefully, that will not happen.


This is just a regular fight, I do not think that there is a huge money involved it may be a decent amount at best.

Casimero will treat it as a tune fight or preparation but for Oguni it is a big opportunity, They have their own mindset going to the fight, and honestly Casimero should not choose this kind of opponent there are bigger fish that will make his name shine after the fight, boxing experts will pick this fight as an easy fight Casimero and they expect and knew the outcome, he is relegated to second rate boxer with this kind of fight, because his last fight is not that impressive they have opted to go fo this kind of fighter.

I'm sure there's big money involved here, It has been a long time since Casimero tasted a huge paycheck and he needs to keep up to sustain himself and he'll fight as long as the price is right.

He sure does need a steppingstone in-order to fight against the champion at 122 because his current rank alone cannot lift him up to make it happen. And I don't think that this Oguni will be a good warm-up for Casimero because he is not even approved nor named to fight the winner of the Tapales vs Inoue undisputed fight and this Oguni cannot help him to climb the ranks because not to disrespect, but this Japanese boxer is way below Casimero's league.

I wonder how much money Casimero is going to receive in this fight, I'm sure it's more on money than prestige considering that the fight will be held in Japan, we all know Japanese promoters are generous when it comes to boxing promotion that is why boxers go here even to the point of defending their belt, like what Fulton did.

Casimero should be fighting for a legit World belt All his other contemporaries have title fights, but he is only holding a secondary belt which is the World Boxing Organization (WBO) global super bantamweight which is not prestigious compared to what he once hold.

I like boxing this time the bettor is between Casimero vs. Oguni, maybe many boxing fans want to see a new sensation will emerge in the ring, regarding Casimero's reaction to Oguni next October, I, want to see what new styles they both have, considering that Oguni hasn't been seen in a boxing ring for more or less a year, having last seen against Keita with a technical draw, I'm sure this will give boxing punters and fans a new lease on life this year.

Technically age is not an obstacle and a debate for both of them, Casimero is 34 years old and Oguni is 35 years old, this is a good adventure if they do happen next october, overall the Philippines currently has the advantage in boxing, they did really well overall, to be honest I can't help but Casimero is in a lucky position this time, when it comes to the upcoming Oguni.

Casimero was the best boxer with huge nuumber of supporters,this game will be the come back match for him.The Oguni is the Japanese fighter was not the equal opponent to the Casimero,the match is going to held on Arena in Japan.So Oguni will have his support in the Japan and Casimero had their support in all the country.So the support also available in the Japan.Oguni just had 19 games win,but Casimero had 33wins and he is from the phillipines.The arm power of Casimero was high and his KO percentage is above 60 percentage.So this game was owned by the Casimero on October.We should wait till the October for the game,mostly the game end with the KO by Casimero.

This is good because Casimero is having another fight again before this year ends but I'm quite disappointed because Casimero pursued a nameless boxer instead of pursuing the likes of Luis Nery to make his credentials believable and so that his ranking in WBC will also improve.

Fighting Luis Nery could've made him to secure the spot for being the challenger of the Tapales vs Inoue winner, considering that John Riel Casimero successfully upsets Nery.

Anyway, I looked up Yukinori Oguni of Japan and he seems to have the height and reach advantage but that's all I can say because regardless of what the Japanese have, I have no doubts that Casimero will defeat him. Oguni ain't even a KO boxer.

With Casimero's status does he need a stepping stone? If it's a warm-up fight it should be from a fighter that will give him a good challenge but he can also beat, not good for Casimero but a chance or opportunity for Oguni, nevertheless, I hope Casimero will not take it easy and he will show the dangerous form that he is known for.

His last fight against Fllipus Nghitumbwa was good but not impressive, People expected him to knock out Fllipus Nghitumbwa but he had a hard time knocking him out.

I expect Casimero to have an impressive win here the guy like what I posted is slow and easy to hit and is not a knockout puncher.

Most likely this is just a stepping stone for him, not saying that this is an easy fight, but he needs to be active and to show that he could or should have a been given a chance to fight for the belt at his new weight class.

So if ever he wins this one, then for sure, early next year his rank will go up and most likely might be set up by his Japanese promoter to fight for a belt. Not necessarily Inoue, but it could be easily made as he is being manage by a Japanese so it could be done easily.