[Boxing]: Cotto vs Marquez - Exhibition match - page 2.

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Quote from: Oilacris on April 28, 2021, 06:55:50 PM

Doesnt matter much on whose gonna win, thing here is that we do enjoy on what we are seeing.

Exactly, they have shown how exciting they were when they were still active, we don't expect them to be their old self in this fight, this is an exhibition fight, seeing an intense fight is just a bonus, now, let's bet on who will win but always don't forget to enjoy the fight. I hope it will get to the judges scorecard as 12 rounds or boxing is just so satisfying.

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Quote from: Sled on April 28, 2021, 06:50:42 PM

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Quote from: Jating on April 24, 2021, 05:01:41 AM

Yeah, I think everyone knows that Margarito has plaster of paris that's why the damage in Cotto's face is very different from what he got in the second fight. And I would say that Margarito is guilty of it and then Manny Pacquiao give him what he deserves, broken orbital bone and he was never been the same.

As for this match, I can't pick because they are legends. But I would say that Cotto will have a slight advantage against Marquez here. And we all know that this is just an exhibition though, friendly fight for this two great boxers of our generations.

If they were both active fighters I would agree with you and give an edge to Cotto but as we know both of them are retired and everything will depend on how well they have maintained their physical health over the years, anyway despite their status as retired this should still be a great fight and it should be better than most of the fights that we see today, after all boxers retire because they no longer can endure as many hits as before and not because their punching power disappears.

That's a great point, we never know if they still continue to keep their body fit after they retired. We would only know if they are still healthy when this fight happens and it's nice to know that this fight is an even match that both fighters have huge support from their fans.

When it comes to fans then i do see that Marquez would have much more than with Cotto imho but im not really much sure.When it comes to maintaining their balance then for sure
that it isnt really extensive to compare when they havent retired yet.

Degrade in performance is there because they arent becoming young but for those fans then this would be a good flashback into their greatness, even if its not into their prime already
but at least we are seeing them again on a ring.

Doesnt matter much on whose gonna win, thing here is that we do enjoy on what we are seeing.

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Quote from: South Park on April 28, 2021, 02:32:04 PM

Quote from: Jating on April 24, 2021, 05:01:41 AM

Yeah, I think everyone knows that Margarito has plaster of paris that's why the damage in Cotto's face is very different from what he got in the second fight. And I would say that Margarito is guilty of it and then Manny Pacquiao give him what he deserves, broken orbital bone and he was never been the same.

As for this match, I can't pick because they are legends. But I would say that Cotto will have a slight advantage against Marquez here. And we all know that this is just an exhibition though, friendly fight for this two great boxers of our generations.

If they were both active fighters I would agree with you and give an edge to Cotto but as we know both of them are retired and everything will depend on how well they have maintained their physical health over the years, anyway despite their status as retired this should still be a great fight and it should be better than most of the fights that we see today, after all boxers retire because they no longer can endure as many hits as before and not because their punching power disappears.

That's a great point, we never know if they still continue to keep their body fit after they retired. We would only know if they are still healthy when this fight happens and it's nice to know that this fight is an even match that both fighters have huge support from their fans.

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Quote from: Jating on April 24, 2021, 05:01:41 AM

Yeah, I think everyone knows that Margarito has plaster of paris that's why the damage in Cotto's face is very different from what he got in the second fight. And I would say that Margarito is guilty of it and then Manny Pacquiao give him what he deserves, broken orbital bone and he was never been the same.

As for this match, I can't pick because they are legends. But I would say that Cotto will have a slight advantage against Marquez here. And we all know that this is just an exhibition though, friendly fight for this two great boxers of our generations.

If they were both active fighters I would agree with you and give an edge to Cotto but as we know both of them are retired and everything will depend on how well they have maintained their physical health over the years, anyway despite their status as retired this should still be a great fight and it should be better than most of the fights that we see today, after all boxers retire because they no longer can endure as many hits as before and not because their punching power disappears.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on April 25, 2021, 07:33:52 AM

I don't know how reliable this site is, but according to the site, it's Manuel Marquez who is the favorite to win.

https://champinon.info/schedule/cotto-vs-marquez/#iw-modal

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Latest Odds
Marquez to win: 1/3
Cotto to win: 2/1
Draw: 10/1

Looks like the odds of Cotto to win is very impressive, I'm definitely be betting on him once this odds is true.

We'll see it once the bookies have released the odds for this match. I think it's a good comparison for most of the popular bookies to check it out.
But if most of them are just the same, time to bet everywhere and just wait and sit to relax until this match comes.

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Quote from: btc_angela on April 25, 2021, 01:15:02 PM

^^ But if you look at the votes, odds are boxing fans here thinks that Cotto will win this fight.

In any case, when online sport bookies released the odds for this exhibition fight, I will go and put a small bet on Cotto, just for fun and entertainment. So let's see how punters are going to call this fight, it's between two legendaries, hard to see who is going to be the odds favourites.

We will know once the odds is already available, this is a good exhibition fight as both fighters are real entertainers during their time as a pro. Now, they are just sharing that after boxing, they are still fit to fight and here again to give us a good fight.

No matter what the odds is, since this is just an exhibition match, we just have to bet on the fighter that we think would likely win, no matter what the outcome is.

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^^ But if you look at the votes, odds are boxing fans here thinks that Cotto will win this fight.

In any case, when online sport bookies released the odds for this exhibition fight, I will go and put a small bet on Cotto, just for fun and entertainment. So let's see how punters are going to call this fight, it's between two legendaries, hard to see who is going to be the odds favourites.

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Quote from: tabas on April 25, 2021, 06:49:49 AM

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 24, 2021, 10:13:49 AM

You should make a pick if you are betting on this fight, just for fun, you can put a little bet so you'll enjoy more this fight. Cotto as per majority here is the favorite, but we don'y really know what would happen in the actual fight, it could be Marquez who will win, we never know that's why we make a guess and bet on the fighter that we think will win.

Just as them are likely to have fun with this match but with accordance of talent fee which is very usual being them as professional boxers. I do agree that if you're wanting to bet, do it for fun but if you think that you can milk on this match by putting your money on the match winner.
Check the odds but it's hard to pick which of them will win even if the odds would be just almost equal.

Odds are not yet out from sportsbooks. Maybe we will see it by next month or at the end of this month.
Yes, it is good to place even a small bet so it will be interesting to watch these 2.
At least, both are boxers even if it is just an exhibition fight.
Hope they will seriously train for this match so we can see a toe-to-toe fight inside the ring.

I hope that the odds would be easy for us and they're near to each other. I'm also hoping that this match is going to be serious and even this match is unprecedented, I'm sure that they're going their best for this match.

I don't know how reliable this site is, but according to the site, it's Manuel Marquez who is the favorite to win.

https://champinon.info/schedule/cotto-vs-marquez/#iw-modal

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Latest Odds
Marquez to win: 1/3
Cotto to win: 2/1
Draw: 10/1

Looks like the odds of Cotto to win is very impressive, I'm definitely be betting on him once this odds is true.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on April 24, 2021, 06:25:39 PM

Quote from: tabas on April 24, 2021, 06:14:31 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 24, 2021, 10:13:49 AM

You should make a pick if you are betting on this fight, just for fun, you can put a little bet so you'll enjoy more this fight. Cotto as per majority here is the favorite, but we don'y really know what would happen in the actual fight, it could be Marquez who will win, we never know that's why we make a guess and bet on the fighter that we think will win.

Just as them are likely to have fun with this match but with accordance of talent fee which is very usual being them as professional boxers. I do agree that if you're wanting to bet, do it for fun but if you think that you can milk on this match by putting your money on the match winner.
Check the odds but it's hard to pick which of them will win even if the odds would be just almost equal.

Odds are not yet out from sportsbooks. Maybe we will see it by next month or at the end of this month.
Yes, it is good to place even a small bet so it will be interesting to watch these 2.
At least, both are boxers even if it is just an exhibition fight.
Hope they will seriously train for this match so we can see a toe-to-toe fight inside the ring.

I hope that the odds would be easy for us and they're near to each other. I'm also hoping that this match is going to be serious and even this match is unprecedented, I'm sure that they're going their best for this match.

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Quote from: tabas on April 24, 2021, 06:14:31 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 24, 2021, 10:13:49 AM

You should make a pick if you are betting on this fight, just for fun, you can put a little bet so you'll enjoy more this fight. Cotto as per majority here is the favorite, but we don'y really know what would happen in the actual fight, it could be Marquez who will win, we never know that's why we make a guess and bet on the fighter that we think will win.

Just as them are likely to have fun with this match but with accordance of talent fee which is very usual being them as professional boxers. I do agree that if you're wanting to bet, do it for fun but if you think that you can milk on this match by putting your money on the match winner.
Check the odds but it's hard to pick which of them will win even if the odds would be just almost equal.

Odds are not yet out from sportsbooks. Maybe we will see it by next month or at the end of this month.
Yes, it is good to place even a small bet so it will be interesting to watch these 2.
At least, both are boxers even if it is just an exhibition fight.
Hope they will seriously train for this match so we can see a toe-to-toe fight inside the ring.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 24, 2021, 10:13:49 AM

You should make a pick if you are betting on this fight, just for fun, you can put a little bet so you'll enjoy more this fight. Cotto as per majority here is the favorite, but we don'y really know what would happen in the actual fight, it could be Marquez who will win, we never know that's why we make a guess and bet on the fighter that we think will win.

Just as them are likely to have fun with this match but with accordance of talent fee which is very usual being them as professional boxers. I do agree that if you're wanting to bet, do it for fun but if you think that you can milk on this match by putting your money on the match winner.
Check the odds but it's hard to pick which of them will win even if the odds would be just almost equal.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 24, 2021, 10:13:49 AM

Quote from: Jating on April 24, 2021, 05:01:41 AM

As for this match, I can't pick because they are legends. But I would say that Cotto will have a slight advantage against Marquez here. And we all know that this is just an exhibition though, friendly fight for this two great boxers of our generations.

You should make a pick if you are betting on this fight, just for fun, you can put a little bet so you'll enjoy more this fight. Cotto as per majority here is the favorite, but we don'y really know what would happen in the actual fight, it could be Marquez who will win,

We can't just sit and watch, as a gambler we stake on this fight to enjoy it more. This is the fight of two great boxers, this has not happen in their professional life as a boxer, now we will see them fight. But still always remember that it's just an exhibition fight, so let us not expect a lot here.

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we never know that's why we make a guess and bet on the fighter that we think will win.

Either fighter could give a good odds as this is gonna be a close fight.

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Quote from: Jating on April 24, 2021, 05:01:41 AM

As for this match, I can't pick because they are legends. But I would say that Cotto will have a slight advantage against Marquez here. And we all know that this is just an exhibition though, friendly fight for this two great boxers of our generations.

You should make a pick if you are betting on this fight, just for fun, you can put a little bet so you'll enjoy more this fight. Cotto as per majority here is the favorite, but we don'y really know what would happen in the actual fight, it could be Marquez who will win, we never know that's why we make a guess and bet on the fighter that we think will win.

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Quote from: milewilda on April 19, 2021, 03:52:41 PM

Quote from: South Park on April 19, 2021, 11:11:30 AM

If the fight had lasted until the last round I have no doubts that Manny would have won as he was in a way better physical shape than Marquez before he received that punch, but we know that in boxing anything can happen which is why it is so exciting to watch, but I will still argue that it was not a lucky punch, there is simply too much evidence against that idea, Marquez was able to even KO his sparrings while training that punch so to me it was a strategy that he used to lure Manny in and deliver a fantastic KO.

It wasnt really a lucky punch and its just an excuse or some reasoning that it was indeed a fluke but its not because Marquez wont really be reaching out his reputation,fame and popularity
if he doesnt have its own weapon or something up into his sleeve then he wont go that far into his boxing career.
Okay lets move on about those past fights and stick into this exhibition which is no doubt that performance will be entirely different compared when they are still into their prime.
Im not expecting that much that they would really be giving out their best on knocking out each other.

OK lets move on, this exhibition fight is going to be really interesting as it is a fight between two former world champions that are not so far away from their retirement, the only thing I am worried is about Cotto, he is a good fighter but when he fought Margarito he suffered a lot of damage due to Margarito cheating with loaded gloves and that is the kind of damage that does not go away so I hope he is not putting his quality of life at risk by accepting this fight.

Forget about that Margarito fight, he knows he got cheated and he avenge his loss by beating Margarito in their rematch 3 years after he loss, there's no damage anymore on him, he is retired happy and the good news is that he is coming back for an exhibition fight.

Yeah, I think everyone knows that Margarito has plaster of paris that's why the damage in Cotto's face is very different from what he got in the second fight. And I would say that Margarito is guilty of it and then Manny Pacquiao give him what he deserves, broken orbital bone and he was never been the same.

As for this match, I can't pick because they are legends. But I would say that Cotto will have a slight advantage against Marquez here. And we all know that this is just an exhibition though, friendly fight for this two great boxers of our generations.

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Quote from: South Park on April 23, 2021, 03:19:03 PM

Quote from: milewilda on April 19, 2021, 03:52:41 PM

Quote from: South Park on April 19, 2021, 11:11:30 AM

If the fight had lasted until the last round I have no doubts that Manny would have won as he was in a way better physical shape than Marquez before he received that punch, but we know that in boxing anything can happen which is why it is so exciting to watch, but I will still argue that it was not a lucky punch, there is simply too much evidence against that idea, Marquez was able to even KO his sparrings while training that punch so to me it was a strategy that he used to lure Manny in and deliver a fantastic KO.

It wasnt really a lucky punch and its just an excuse or some reasoning that it was indeed a fluke but its not because Marquez wont really be reaching out his reputation,fame and popularity
if he doesnt have its own weapon or something up into his sleeve then he wont go that far into his boxing career.
Okay lets move on about those past fights and stick into this exhibition which is no doubt that performance will be entirely different compared when they are still into their prime.
Im not expecting that much that they would really be giving out their best on knocking out each other.

OK lets move on, this exhibition fight is going to be really interesting as it is a fight between two former world champions that are not so far away from their retirement, the only thing I am worried is about Cotto, he is a good fighter but when he fought Margarito he suffered a lot of damage due to Margarito cheating with loaded gloves and that is the kind of damage that does not go away so I hope he is not putting his quality of life at risk by accepting this fight.

Such damage that might be triggered again and risk his health, there's no doubt that the quality of his fighting skills might be affected of that incident.

The eagerness and the interest might shift out to other activities, this exhibition may bring his fans some entertainment we know that there are still fans for this two boxers.

Hoping that no one will get serious damage, just a friendly exhibition for the best interest of the fans.

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Quote from: Viscore on April 23, 2021, 05:40:57 PM

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Quote from: milewilda on April 19, 2021, 03:52:41 PM

Quote from: South Park on April 19, 2021, 11:11:30 AM

If the fight had lasted until the last round I have no doubts that Manny would have won as he was in a way better physical shape than Marquez before he received that punch, but we know that in boxing anything can happen which is why it is so exciting to watch, but I will still argue that it was not a lucky punch, there is simply too much evidence against that idea, Marquez was able to even KO his sparrings while training that punch so to me it was a strategy that he used to lure Manny in and deliver a fantastic KO.

It wasnt really a lucky punch and its just an excuse or some reasoning that it was indeed a fluke but its not because Marquez wont really be reaching out his reputation,fame and popularity
if he doesnt have its own weapon or something up into his sleeve then he wont go that far into his boxing career.
Okay lets move on about those past fights and stick into this exhibition which is no doubt that performance will be entirely different compared when they are still into their prime.
Im not expecting that much that they would really be giving out their best on knocking out each other.

OK lets move on, this exhibition fight is going to be really interesting as it is a fight between two former world champions that are not so far away from their retirement, the only thing I am worried is about Cotto, he is a good fighter but when he fought Margarito he suffered a lot of damage due to Margarito cheating with loaded gloves and that is the kind of damage that does not go away so I hope he is not putting his quality of life at risk by accepting this fight.

Forget about that Margarito fight, he knows he got cheated and he avenge his loss by beating Margarito in their rematch 3 years after he loss, there's no damage anymore on him, he is retired happy and the good news is that he is coming back for an exhibition fight.

I agree with that, Margarito only cheated that's why he won but Cotto already get his justice and had many good fights after that, and that already includes Mayweather and Manny which unfortunately he loss.

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Quote from: South Park on April 23, 2021, 03:19:03 PM

Quote from: milewilda on April 19, 2021, 03:52:41 PM

Quote from: South Park on April 19, 2021, 11:11:30 AM

If the fight had lasted until the last round I have no doubts that Manny would have won as he was in a way better physical shape than Marquez before he received that punch, but we know that in boxing anything can happen which is why it is so exciting to watch, but I will still argue that it was not a lucky punch, there is simply too much evidence against that idea, Marquez was able to even KO his sparrings while training that punch so to me it was a strategy that he used to lure Manny in and deliver a fantastic KO.

It wasnt really a lucky punch and its just an excuse or some reasoning that it was indeed a fluke but its not because Marquez wont really be reaching out his reputation,fame and popularity
if he doesnt have its own weapon or something up into his sleeve then he wont go that far into his boxing career.
Okay lets move on about those past fights and stick into this exhibition which is no doubt that performance will be entirely different compared when they are still into their prime.
Im not expecting that much that they would really be giving out their best on knocking out each other.

OK lets move on, this exhibition fight is going to be really interesting as it is a fight between two former world champions that are not so far away from their retirement, the only thing I am worried is about Cotto, he is a good fighter but when he fought Margarito he suffered a lot of damage due to Margarito cheating with loaded gloves and that is the kind of damage that does not go away so I hope he is not putting his quality of life at risk by accepting this fight.

Forget about that Margarito fight, he knows he got cheated and he avenge his loss by beating Margarito in their rematch 3 years after he loss, there's no damage anymore on him, he is retired happy and the good news is that he is coming back for an exhibition fight.

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Quote from: milewilda on April 19, 2021, 03:52:41 PM

Quote from: South Park on April 19, 2021, 11:11:30 AM

If the fight had lasted until the last round I have no doubts that Manny would have won as he was in a way better physical shape than Marquez before he received that punch, but we know that in boxing anything can happen which is why it is so exciting to watch, but I will still argue that it was not a lucky punch, there is simply too much evidence against that idea, Marquez was able to even KO his sparrings while training that punch so to me it was a strategy that he used to lure Manny in and deliver a fantastic KO.

It wasnt really a lucky punch and its just an excuse or some reasoning that it was indeed a fluke but its not because Marquez wont really be reaching out his reputation,fame and popularity
if he doesnt have its own weapon or something up into his sleeve then he wont go that far into his boxing career.
Okay lets move on about those past fights and stick into this exhibition which is no doubt that performance will be entirely different compared when they are still into their prime.
Im not expecting that much that they would really be giving out their best on knocking out each other.

OK lets move on, this exhibition fight is going to be really interesting as it is a fight between two former world champions that are not so far away from their retirement, the only thing I am worried is about Cotto, he is a good fighter but when he fought Margarito he suffered a lot of damage due to Margarito cheating with loaded gloves and that is the kind of damage that does not go away so I hope he is not putting his quality of life at risk by accepting this fight.

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These are what fans thought.

Manny loss against Mayweather, they want a rematch.
Manny loss against Marquez, they want a rematch.

You can't blame the fans, they are bias, and that makes the discussion interesting because we always discuss which one is better.

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 19, 2021, 04:45:27 PM

Quote from: South Park on April 19, 2021, 11:11:30 AM

but I will still argue that it was not a lucky punch, there is simply too much evidence against that idea, Marquez was able to even KO his sparrings while training that punch so to me it was a strategy that he used to lure Manny in and deliver a fantastic KO.

For those who says that was a lucky punch knows nothing about boxing. Marquez has been training himself primarily to be the best counter puncher. That KO he did to Manny was his perfect counter punch from his whole career. It was perfectly timed and perfectly land to a wide open Manny's face. We all know Manny has a strong jaw and won't get easily rocked by solid punch in the face, but that was totally unexpected.

That's why some people called it a lucky punch because it was unexpected. Only Manny's punch are calling it as a lucky punch, they can't believe it because Manny was already winning but suddenly when he was going for a kill, he didn't expected a counter punch was coming.

Also, that win by Marquez still doesn't make him better than Manny because Manny has been giving him rematch when he loss, but after this fight, he didn't give Manny a chance to fight with him again, that's why people think he is afraid to lose.

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