[Boxing]: Cotto vs Marquez - Exhibition match - page 4.

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But lets just see this fight for sure will give a time to watch this bout since this two fighter are quite good opponent of Pacman.

Fans would easily remember these two fighters as two great opponent of Pacman, particularly Marquez where he fought a series of fight but in the end it was Marquez who won but just due to a lucky punch, a one time punch KO. Some even say that Marquez is a coward for not giving Pacman a chance for a rematch even if he was offered with big money.

check this news out. https://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-reveals-he-rejected-100-million-fifth-pacquiao-bout--123560

I saw that fight and I do not see how people can say that it was a lucky punch, there is footage of Marquez training that particular punch against their sparrings, Pacquiao had already fell before that punch in a previous round and you can see that Marquez is specifically waiting for Manny to come to him and try to deliver that punch, it was not a lucky punch it was a successful strategy that was implemented perfectly at the right place and the right time.

Maybe it was a lucky punch in the sense that Marquez was already losing the fight but he was able to do the right timing to KO Pacman. If Pacman was more careful and he did not go for a kill instead, that would give an easy win for him as he was faster and stronger than Marquez, but things happened, no excuses and we have to give that win whether by luck or not.

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But lets just see this fight for sure will give a time to watch this bout since this two fighter are quite good opponent of Pacman.

Fans would easily remember these two fighters as two great opponent of Pacman, particularly Marquez where he fought a series of fight but in the end it was Marquez who won but just due to a lucky punch, a one time punch KO. Some even say that Marquez is a coward for not giving Pacman a chance for a rematch even if he was offered with big money.

check this news out. https://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-reveals-he-rejected-100-million-fifth-pacquiao-bout--123560

I saw that fight and I do not see how people can say that it was a lucky punch, there is footage of Marquez training that particular punch against their sparrings, Pacquiao had already fell before that punch in a previous round and you can see that Marquez is specifically waiting for Manny to come to him and try to deliver that punch, it was not a lucky punch it was a successful strategy that was implemented perfectly at the right place and the right time.

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Quote from: tabas on April 11, 2021, 05:52:05 AM

I agree that money is still a thing for this match and such exhibitions will make them more money. And while there's still a pandemic, this is very necessary for them to earn more although I don't know how much wealth they have and what's their current life status and situation.

They are taking advantage on the popularity of the exhibition fights, well, it could be without a crowd but they'll still be happy with the result as this is just an exhibition fight. I guess it started with Tyson vs Jones Jr, they make some good money, and now these retired greats are trying to play around on the trend.

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Quote from: stadus on April 10, 2021, 05:05:54 PM

As what OP have shared, they will have an exhibition match, this is what you called boxing life after retirement from professional boxer.

That was actually a kind of my reaction and was really surprised.

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All a fighter should do is to be a popular boxer so he will still have more fans after he retired and he can this exhibition which will certainly generate money for them.

Since Cotto is the favorite based on the poll, I guess that's what bookies will give us once the betting odds are out.

I agree that money is still a thing for this match and such exhibitions will make them more money. And while there's still a pandemic, this is very necessary for them to earn more although I don't know how much wealth they have and what's their current life status and situation.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 30, 2021, 06:22:49 PM

This is a surprise:

Miguel Cotto vs. Juan Manuel Marquez Exhibition Clash in Play For June 12

Oh well, retired boxers are now on the exhibition match. I think this fight should have happened when they are still fighting, Pacquiao has the luxury to fight these two legendary boxers, specially Marquez. Information is sketchy at this point.

Perhaps Cotto will be the slight favourite here.

These are two of the best slugger in their division, it's unfortunate that we have not witnessed these two fighters together in the ring in their fighting days, both fighters did not show sign of aging in their last fights, but since this is an exhibition match with no belt or ranking at stake and with many stipulations don't think we will see a slugfest as we've seen in their heydays, they are two of my favorite boxers and hopefully they will not seriously hurt each other, I bet Cotto will win by a decision here.

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Quote from: tabas on April 10, 2021, 02:10:46 PM

Seriously, they're going to have an exhibition match? these fighters had a match with Pacquiao before and that's good to see that they'll be having their exhibition match.
I guess other retired players can still go back into the ring if they want to just for an exhibition.

As what OP have shared, they will have an exhibition match, this is what you called boxing life after retirement from professional boxer. All a fighter should do is to be a popular boxer so he will still have more fans after he retired and he can this exhibition which will certainly generate money for them.

Since Cotto is the favorite based on the poll, I guess that's what bookies will give us once the betting odds are out.

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Seriously, they're going to have an exhibition match? these fighters had a match with Pacquiao before and that's good to see that they'll be having their exhibition match.
I guess other retired players can still go back into the ring if they want to just for an exhibition.

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It took a while before I saw those boxers trying to back into the boxing world, base on my perspective and analysis I think Marquez has the potential to win this game because on the match of Pacquiao and Marquez on a long time they are the best rivalry and also just a two-match with Cotto only against Pacquiao rather than Pacquiao and Marquez it's just speculation that Marquez will dominate this game. Of course, this is a sports game, and mind games anything can happen in a one-punch or mistake this can turn over the game easily and chance to win the title.

I did not even expect them to come back because they have already retired in boxing a long time ago, their names are just fresh in our memory because their opponent which is Manny Pacquioa is still active in boxing despite already 42 years old. Your speculation that Marquez will dominate is not as what majority is thinking of the oucome of this fight, the pool reveals that Cotto has more votes to win.

If you do try to look back on Pacquiao vs Cotto then he had been defeated via TKO 55 seconds in the 12th round which happened in 2009 which did result on dethroning Cotto as a WBO
welterweight champion and that made pacquiao the first ever seven-weight world champ and there were no rematches happen between the two after that.

On where on marquez vs pacquiao
1st fight -split draw
2nd -Pacquiao (split decision)
3rd- Pacquiao (majority decision)

Based up on performance I can say that Marquez will beat up Cotto.

Sometimes we cannot use that as a basis though.

Pacquioa fougth bradley 3 times, first fight was a loss, 2nd and 3rd fight are all won by Manny via unanimous decision.

Then Bradley fought Marquez, Bradley won by SD.
Marquez vs Cotto is a fair fight, they have their own style and they will not use the same style when they fought Manny Pacquiao.

Past performance will dictate the flow of speculations and since marquez make the career of pacquaio hard then provably it can make the career of Cotto the same. We know how good marquez on counter punching so provably Cotto will struggle since his not a flashy fighter like pacquaio.

So if I'm gonna bet this fight then my money goes to marquez and I believe many other gamblers to.

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It took a while before I saw those boxers trying to back into the boxing world, base on my perspective and analysis I think Marquez has the potential to win this game because on the match of Pacquiao and Marquez on a long time they are the best rivalry and also just a two-match with Cotto only against Pacquiao rather than Pacquiao and Marquez it's just speculation that Marquez will dominate this game. Of course, this is a sports game, and mind games anything can happen in a one-punch or mistake this can turn over the game easily and chance to win the title.

I did not even expect them to come back because they have already retired in boxing a long time ago, their names are just fresh in our memory because their opponent which is Manny Pacquioa is still active in boxing despite already 42 years old. Your speculation that Marquez will dominate is not as what majority is thinking of the oucome of this fight, the pool reveals that Cotto has more votes to win.

If you do try to look back on Pacquiao vs Cotto then he had been defeated via TKO 55 seconds in the 12th round which happened in 2009 which did result on dethroning Cotto as a WBO
welterweight champion and that made pacquiao the first ever seven-weight world champ and there were no rematches happen between the two after that.

On where on marquez vs pacquiao
1st fight -split draw
2nd -Pacquiao (split decision)
3rd- Pacquiao (majority decision)

Based up on performance I can say that Marquez will beat up Cotto.

Sometimes we cannot use that as a basis though.

Pacquioa fougth bradley 3 times, first fight was a loss, 2nd and 3rd fight are all won by Manny via unanimous decision.

Then Bradley fought Marquez, Bradley won by SD.
Marquez vs Cotto is a fair fight, they have their own style and they will not use the same style when they fought Manny Pacquiao.

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It took a while before I saw those boxers trying to back into the boxing world, base on my perspective and analysis I think Marquez has the potential to win this game because on the match of Pacquiao and Marquez on a long time they are the best rivalry and also just a two-match with Cotto only against Pacquiao rather than Pacquiao and Marquez it's just speculation that Marquez will dominate this game. Of course, this is a sports game, and mind games anything can happen in a one-punch or mistake this can turn over the game easily and chance to win the title.

I did not even expect them to come back because they have already retired in boxing a long time ago, their names are just fresh in our memory because their opponent which is Manny Pacquioa is still active in boxing despite already 42 years old. Your speculation that Marquez will dominate is not as what majority is thinking of the oucome of this fight, the pool reveals that Cotto has more votes to win.

If you do try to look back on Pacquiao vs Cotto then he had been defeated via TKO 55 seconds in the 12th round which happened in 2009 which did result on dethroning Cotto as a WBO
welterweight champion and that made pacquiao the first ever seven-weight world champ and there were no rematches happen between the two after that.

On where on marquez vs pacquiao
1st fight -split draw
2nd -Pacquiao (split decision)
3rd- Pacquiao (majority decision)

Based up on performance I can say that Marquez will beat up Cotto.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on April 08, 2021, 11:46:17 PM

It took a while before I saw those boxers trying to back into the boxing world, base on my perspective and analysis I think Marquez has the potential to win this game because on the match of Pacquiao and Marquez on a long time they are the best rivalry and also just a two-match with Cotto only against Pacquiao rather than Pacquiao and Marquez it's just speculation that Marquez will dominate this game. Of course, this is a sports game, and mind games anything can happen in a one-punch or mistake this can turn over the game easily and chance to win the title.

I did not even expect them to come back because they have already retired in boxing a long time ago, their names are just fresh in our memory because their opponent which is Manny Pacquioa is still active in boxing despite already 42 years old. Your speculation that Marquez will dominate is not as what majority is thinking of the oucome of this fight, the pool reveals that Cotto has more votes to win.

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It took a while before I saw those boxers trying to back into the boxing world, base on my perspective and analysis I think Marquez has the potential to win this game because on the match of Pacquiao and Marquez on a long time they are the best rivalry and also just a two-match with Cotto only against Pacquiao rather than Pacquiao and Marquez it's just speculation that Marquez will dominate this game. Of course, this is a sports game, and mind games anything can happen in a one-punch or mistake this can turn over the game easily and chance to win the title.

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What I meant is that we as boxing fans we're robbed of this fight, they should have face each other during their prime days. And I don't know what they didn't, I'm just speculating that Cotto is a pure and natural Welterweight, while Marquez just focus on Pacquiao at the end of his career.

So now we are going to see them at least, not in their primes, but there could be some tinkering as to what's going to play out when they have fought before.

It could have been an exciting fights, if these two fighters meet in their prime, I don't know if we are going to see the styles that makes them the best fighters of their generation, Cotto has a slight advantage but this is Manuel Marquez, even in his last fight he did not show slowdown or aging, we will see a very exciting match here, even though it's an exhibition match.

if they have Meet in their Prime ? surely Marquez will Break Cotto's Bones because of His style.

and those advantage are>>>>

>> Stamina

>> Power

>> Perseverance

Those skills is what he used to become one of the finest and popular in His division .

But for this fight? I will Share with Cotto's favoritism ..

I'm not so sure about that, Cotto is a great fighter also and Marquez is not really a heavy puncher, he is just durable in the ring but I believe Cotto is smart as a boxer, and I guess they'll never meet as Cotto weight is higher compared to Marquez.

Have you seen Marquez goes up in weight to fight Mayweather?

Look what happen, he was schooled by Mayweather and the fight was not even exciting to watch. Mayweather vs Cotto was better although Mayweather still win.

These are some of the names that Cotto beat.

Sergio Martinez
Antonio Margarito
Ricardo Mayorga
Yuri Foreman
Zab Judah ( the one that almost beat Mayweather)

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What I meant is that we as boxing fans we're robbed of this fight, they should have face each other during their prime days. And I don't know what they didn't, I'm just speculating that Cotto is a pure and natural Welterweight, while Marquez just focus on Pacquiao at the end of his career.

So now we are going to see them at least, not in their primes, but there could be some tinkering as to what's going to play out when they have fought before.

It could have been an exciting fights, if these two fighters meet in their prime, I don't know if we are going to see the styles that makes them the best fighters of their generation, Cotto has a slight advantage but this is Manuel Marquez, even in his last fight he did not show slowdown or aging, we will see a very exciting match here, even though it's an exhibition match.

if they have Meet in their Prime ? surely Marquez will Break Cotto's Bones because of His style.

and those advantage are>>>>

>> Stamina

>> Power

>> Perseverance

Those skills is what he used to become one of the finest and popular in His division .

But for this fight? I will Share with Cotto's favoritism ..

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I have spare of 250$ this May so i think i'll be saving this for the fight . though I'm not a fan of exhibition fights but i guess this one is worth betting.

That's a decent bet already, I'm also interested on betting in this fight but until now i could not find the betting odds. I will not bet right away but it's nice to see the betting odds early so we will have an idea on who is the favorite and underdog of the fight.

Is the deal for this fight already sealed? I guess the odds will come out soon if this fight proceeds. But this is still scheduled two months from now so there is still enough time left for you to wait for the odds and decide which is the fighter to stake your money on.

I also think 250$ is big enough. Remember that this is just a friendly match. But it is up to you of course. It is your money anyway.

That depends on OP's budget, it's an exhibition fight but betting is betting, you can put any amount that you can afford to lose, that would add up some excitement because its necessary for us who love to gamble and love the sport. $250 is big for others but for others it's just a small amount, we have different financial status, so we feel differently.

One problem with exhibition fights however is that there is a chance for its result to be a draw no matter how lopsided the decision could be. This is an exhibition fight and they would probably make it last up to 12 rounds just like Tyson and Jones exhibition fight. If it was a real title fight, it wouldn't last up to 12 rounds knowing Tyson would throw his uppercut from down under with all his weight and up.

This fight Cotto vs Marquez exhibition could also end a draw as well as its made for the audience to enjoy the signature fighting style.

Of course its possible, but DRAW does not happen all the time, if you are unlucky you'll loss your bet, that's reality in gambling. If fans would be watching this and promoters are making good money, then I guess they'll put a script to end this in a draw so there will be another fight.

Exhibtion fights has less credibility compared to actual fight, so cheating or rigging the fight is possible.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on April 08, 2021, 06:14:20 AM

I decided to vote for Cotto and I think will bet for him for another face-off between Marquez, I think he can still take a beating and can surely deliver his punches with minimal training in no time, even though he doesn't have the height advantage I think he can pack a punch regarding of the height of his opponent, giving the fact that he has a 33 winning knockout on his record is not really bad and this exhibition match can help him get back on track even though it is for a little while.

well I'm not betting for this in any amount but I will also for Cotto if having a chance.

Age wise and also reach , it seems that Cotto will dominate the whole exhibition game.

But I'm afraid of betting in some kind of fight like this because the chance of Draw like what happened to Jones and Tyson that ended with a Damn Draw decision .

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 08, 2021, 07:21:49 PM

What I meant is that we as boxing fans we're robbed of this fight, they should have face each other during their prime days. And I don't know what they didn't, I'm just speculating that Cotto is a pure and natural Welterweight, while Marquez just focus on Pacquiao at the end of his career.

So now we are going to see them at least, not in their primes, but there could be some tinkering as to what's going to play out when they have fought before.

It could have been an exciting fights, if these two fighters meet in their prime, I don't know if we are going to see the styles that makes them the best fighters of their generation, Cotto has a slight advantage but this is Manuel Marquez, even in his last fight he did not show slowdown or aging, we will see a very exciting match here, even though it's an exhibition match.

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I have spare of 250$ this May so i think i'll be saving this for the fight . though I'm not a fan of exhibition fights but i guess this one is worth betting.

That's a decent bet already, I'm also interested on betting in this fight but until now i could not find the betting odds. I will not bet right away but it's nice to see the betting odds early so we will have an idea on who is the favorite and underdog of the fight.

Is the deal for this fight already sealed? I guess the odds will come out soon if this fight proceeds. But this is still scheduled two months from now so there is still enough time left for you to wait for the odds and decide which is the fighter to stake your money on.

I also think 250$ is big enough. Remember that this is just a friendly match. But it is up to you of course. It is your money anyway.

That depends on OP's budget, it's an exhibition fight but betting is betting, you can put any amount that you can afford to lose, that would add up some excitement because its necessary for us who love to gamble and love the sport. $250 is big for others but for others it's just a small amount, we have different financial status, so we feel differently.

One problem with exhibition fights however is that there is a chance for its result to be a draw no matter how lopsided the decision could be. This is an exhibition fight and they would probably make it last up to 12 rounds just like Tyson and Jones exhibition fight. If it was a real title fight, it wouldn't last up to 12 rounds knowing Tyson would throw his uppercut from down under with all his weight and up.

This fight Cotto vs Marquez exhibition could also end a draw as well as its made for the audience to enjoy the signature fighting style.

That's right. Thanks for reminding me this as I might put a little wage on draw. I forgot that the Tyson and Jones Jr. exhibition match ended in draw even if it was clear that it was Tyson who really controlled the entire fight.

Since this is an exhibition or a friendly match, it is not important who wins and who loses. Some judges might as well make it a draw to just please both the fighters and everyone of their fans.

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Two old heads in boxing going for an exhibition match sounds like fun. I do not expect explosive power from these two anymore since they're way past their prime (especially Marquez) though I still expect to see a good bout especially on their footwork and how they carry themselves in the ring. In terms of raw power, I'd place my bet on Cotto. He's a good all-rounder too, and excels mostly on speed. A good match, I should say, and perhaps a good match to throw a couple bucks at and just enjoy the show.

Almost all people who do made up some post on this thread do look negatively for these kind of exhibition fights but it turns out to be totally opposite for you and youre enjoying it instead.
When it comes to power then i would really be favoring Cotto but i cant really just ignore on how well Marquez is even though this is an exhibition match and theyre already past
their prime but this one would be entertaining but i do agree with people words on here that exhibition matches becomes the trend now.

This is pure for fun I believed as this is an exhibition, we just have to see them fight again, we have been robbed of this fight in their prime,

I also believe its pure fun but at what part are we robbed during their fight?
What particular fight because AFAIR, both have not fought each other before although both fought Mayweather.

What I meant is that we as boxing fans we're robbed of this fight, they should have face each other during their prime days. And I don't know what they didn't, I'm just speculating that Cotto is a pure and natural Welterweight, while Marquez just focus on Pacquiao at the end of his career.

So now we are going to see them at least, not in their primes, but there could be some tinkering as to what's going to play out when they have fought before.

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These two fighters should have meet in their boxing days, they have a style that will complement each other, one is a very good counter puncher, the other a good boxer with a good attack, now that they are meeting in an exhibition match and past their prime, I don't think we can see the fireworks that we used to see, I am betting Cotto to win by a decision here.

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