[Boxing]: Cotto vs Marquez - Exhibition match - page 7.

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Quote from: Jating on April 04, 2021, 03:33:22 AM

^^ I agree on some parts, specially about them not on any level or rivalry, or in a competition for a belt. This is just for their fans to enjoy the fight while it last.

The only thing that I don't agree is wearing any head gear, again, we've seen older fighters like the recent Tyson vs Jones, without any head gear. Tyson can still punch, Roy Jones admitted that he felt the power, but they fight without any head protection and I'm sure either Cotto or Marquez doesn't want any.

I have no idea whether there is a specific clause in their match agreement which states that both fighters are required to wear a head protective gear. There may be such a condition, there may be not. I guess it will depend on both of them. But I am expecting that the rules for this one will be tailored fit for old retired boxers who are more prone to injuries and who will probably suffer more should such injuries are inflicted. The rounds may be shortened, gloves thicker or more padded, etc.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 04, 2021, 05:13:36 AM

I think this Exhibition match has been inspired by the Roy Jones Jr./Mike Tyson exhibition match last year.

With them not in their prime anymore, I'm a bit curious about how they will be inside the boxing ring knowing that they retired for quite some time already. Seems like they are just doing this for entertainment purposes since they already saw some exhibition boxing fights too like they RJJ/Tyson fight and the Jake Paul/Nate Robinson celebrity exhibition match. This may end up in a draw too like what happened in the last exhibition match Cheesy

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Jones and Tyson are old, so it's nice to see them in an exhibition fight, the case of Marquez vs Cotto is different, they just retired few years ago when they can still actually fight so I guess it will not create much buzz. Marquez were popular because of his fighs with Pacquiao especially the last fight where he beat Pacquiao by a one punch KO, but that was it, Pacquiao did not quit and has become a champion again.

They just make sure it will not be near the scheduled fight of Pacquiao vs Crawford so they would at least make some good income.

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I think this Exhibition match has been inspired by the Roy Jones Jr./Mike Tyson exhibition match last year.

With them not in their prime anymore, I'm a bit curious about how they will be inside the boxing ring knowing that they retired for quite some time already. Seems like they are just doing this for entertainment purposes since they already saw some exhibition boxing fights too like they RJJ/Tyson fight and the Jake Paul/Nate Robinson celebrity exhibition match. This may end up in a draw too like what happened in the last exhibition match Cheesy

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Quote from: Baofeng on April 02, 2021, 06:40:11 PM

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No, I doubt that they are going to used head gears,

^ Probably they will not but surely they will use large gloves to minimize the speed of the punch that won't give them a hard pain.
A boxing exhibition match like this is totally different if we compared to the belt competition, you can see that there is a real fight in the match because they are fighting hard and protecting their belt. But this, just only for entertainment, and probably the match is manipulated to them and bettors will probably at risk. Nevertheless, in this match, I am in favor of Cotto.

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^^ I agree on some parts, specially about them not on any level or rivalry, or in a competition for a belt. This is just for their fans to enjoy the fight while it last.

The only thing that I don't agree is wearing any head gear, again, we've seen older fighters like the recent Tyson vs Jones, without any head gear. Tyson can still punch, Roy Jones admitted that he felt the power, but they fight without any head protection and I'm sure either Cotto or Marquez doesn't want any.

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Generally speaking, I think it is hard to make a bet and analyze an exhibition match compared to a real professional match. You cannot just take into consideration their power, strength, athleticism, etc because they are just playing boxing.

There may still be a desire to win but that is not as strong as that which is coming from a professional and young fighter who is still very hungry to make a better record. To these retired men, for as long as they get paid everything's good.

I agree we should not expect a big thing in this exhibition match, there's really nothing at stake here, they should enjoy the match they are aged boxers and there's no expectation of coming back again to fight again in a real boxing match, there could be a stipulation that they should not hurt each other or even score a knockout, there's a big difference fighting now, then their heydays.

In matches as such this one, and perhaps for the big majority of exhibition matches, betting should be reduced to the minimum, if at all.

These old boxers are not on a rivalry right now. They are not on a hot competition for a belt, a record, a ranking, a reputation, etc.

For sure, we can hardly appreciate Cotto and Marquez's exhibition match if we are expecting them to be nearly as explosive as before. They will even be wearing a head protective gear for this one.

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Two old heads in boxing going for an exhibition match sounds like fun. I do not expect explosive power from these two anymore since they're way past their prime (especially Marquez) though I still expect to see a good bout especially on their footwork and how they carry themselves in the ring. In terms of raw power, I'd place my bet on Cotto. He's a good all-rounder too, and excels mostly on speed. A good match, I should say, and perhaps a good match to throw a couple bucks at and just enjoy the show.

Almost all people who do made up some post on this thread do look negatively for these kind of exhibition fights but it turns out to be totally opposite for you and youre enjoying it instead.
When it comes to power then i would really be favoring Cotto but i cant really just ignore on how well Marquez is even though this is an exhibition match and theyre already past
their prime but this one would be entertaining but i do agree with people words on here that exhibition matches becomes the trend now.

This is pure for fun I believed as this is an exhibition, we just have to see them fight again, we have been robbed of this fight in their prime,

I also believe its pure fun but at what part are we robbed during their fight?
What particular fight because AFAIR, both have not fought each other before although both fought Mayweather.

Quote from: Kemarit on April 02, 2021, 08:46:16 PM

so at least we will see them one last time and only speculate what could have happen if they face in a real boxing match.

So no knockout, and I'm sure this two boxers are also going to enjoy their fight. Both are legendaries and HOF'ers fighters.

Let's see but I would still bet for a KO win from a player of my choice if there's a great odds for that.

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Two old heads in boxing going for an exhibition match sounds like fun. I do not expect explosive power from these two anymore since they're way past their prime (especially Marquez) though I still expect to see a good bout especially on their footwork and how they carry themselves in the ring. In terms of raw power, I'd place my bet on Cotto. He's a good all-rounder too, and excels mostly on speed. A good match, I should say, and perhaps a good match to throw a couple bucks at and just enjoy the show.

Almost all people who do made up some post on this thread do look negatively for these kind of exhibition fights but it turns out to be totally opposite for you and youre enjoying it instead.
When it comes to power then i would really be favoring Cotto but i cant really just ignore on how well Marquez is even though this is an exhibition match and theyre already past
their prime but this one would be entertaining but i do agree with people words on here that exhibition matches becomes the trend now.

This is pure for fun I believed as this is an exhibition, we just have to see them fight again, we have been robbed of this fight in their prime, so at least we will see them one last time and only speculate what could have happen if they face in a real boxing match.

So no knockout, and I'm sure this two boxers are also going to enjoy their fight. Both are legendaries and HOF'ers fighters.

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This is a surprise:

Miguel Cotto vs. Juan Manuel Marquez Exhibition Clash in Play For June 12

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Multiple sources have informed BoxingScene.com that the pair of former four-division titlists are due to meet in an exhibition bout on June 12 from a location to be determined. Details on the event have yet to be confirmed other than that an announcement from both parties is expected in the coming days.

https://www.boxingscene.com/miguel-cotto-vs-juan-manuel-marquez-exhibition-clash-play-june-12--156534

Oh well, retired boxers are now on the exhibition match. I think this fight should have happened when they are still fighting, Pacquiao has the luxury to fight these two legendary boxers, specially Marquez. Information is sketchy at this point.

Perhaps Cotto will be the slight favourite here.

At least this is a decent exhibition fight, Marquez and Cotto are both former world champions and both were very good so even if they are retired this should be a better fight than the ones we see with boxers starting out their careers, I wonder if they are going to use protection because there is no point in risking themselves so late during their lives when they are already retired and so far they both seem to be in good health.

No, I doubt that they are going to used head gears, Mike Tyson and Roy Jones didn't use any during their fight, they are much older that Cotto and Marquez. But, they definitely adjust and will get a heavier gloves, 12 ouches. The heavier the gloves is, the better protection for their hand and from damaging their opponents, (not a knock out gloves).

But I agree that this is so far the most decent exhibition fight, as compare to Floyd's.

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Cotto is leading the voting with 11-9... I guess everyone wants to see this as I can see they are participating in the voting.

Quote from: dunfida on April 02, 2021, 03:08:13 PM

but i do agree with people words on here that exhibition matches becomes the trend now.

Exactly, and there will be no more exhibibition fights without the support of the people, both Macquez and Cotto have big fans, so probably they are willing to pay to watch this exhibition game, less pressure to them, maybe less money than usual as well.

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Quote from: dothebeats on April 02, 2021, 02:23:06 PM

Two old heads in boxing going for an exhibition match sounds like fun. I do not expect explosive power from these two anymore since they're way past their prime (especially Marquez) though I still expect to see a good bout especially on their footwork and how they carry themselves in the ring. In terms of raw power, I'd place my bet on Cotto. He's a good all-rounder too, and excels mostly on speed. A good match, I should say, and perhaps a good match to throw a couple bucks at and just enjoy the show.

Almost all people who do made up some post on this thread do look negatively for these kind of exhibition fights but it turns out to be totally opposite for you and youre enjoying it instead.
When it comes to power then i would really be favoring Cotto but i cant really just ignore on how well Marquez is even though this is an exhibition match and theyre already past
their prime but this one would be entertaining but i do agree with people words on here that exhibition matches becomes the trend now.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 30, 2021, 07:22:49 PM

This is a surprise:

Miguel Cotto vs. Juan Manuel Marquez Exhibition Clash in Play For June 12

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Multiple sources have informed BoxingScene.com that the pair of former four-division titlists are due to meet in an exhibition bout on June 12 from a location to be determined. Details on the event have yet to be confirmed other than that an announcement from both parties is expected in the coming days.

https://www.boxingscene.com/miguel-cotto-vs-juan-manuel-marquez-exhibition-clash-play-june-12--156534

Oh well, retired boxers are now on the exhibition match. I think this fight should have happened when they are still fighting, Pacquiao has the luxury to fight these two legendary boxers, specially Marquez. Information is sketchy at this point.

Perhaps Cotto will be the slight favourite here.

At least this is a decent exhibition fight, Marquez and Cotto are both former world champions and both were very good so even if they are retired this should be a better fight than the ones we see with boxers starting out their careers, I wonder if they are going to use protection because there is no point in risking themselves so late during their lives when they are already retired and so far they both seem to be in good health.

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Two old heads in boxing going for an exhibition match sounds like fun. I do not expect explosive power from these two anymore since they're way past their prime (especially Marquez) though I still expect to see a good bout especially on their footwork and how they carry themselves in the ring. In terms of raw power, I'd place my bet on Cotto. He's a good all-rounder too, and excels mostly on speed. A good match, I should say, and perhaps a good match to throw a couple bucks at and just enjoy the show.

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They could have done that when they were still strong and vibrant but, what exactly does this exhibition fight stand for? their strength has gone down and no excitement will be catch during their fight I presume. Although am not against the exhibition fight but sincerely not always exciting. Those who care more about the ring should always ensure to have matches and rematches of a concerned opponent before go out.

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I am now watching Cotto and Margarito's Previous fights with Manny Pacquiao I think that Antonio Margarito has definitely done a great job in giving Pacquiao a hard time but apparently, Miguel Cotto does the same thing but the Referee just stop their fight because they think that Pacquiao had given Cotto a hell of a beating, but again that fight with Manny is not gonna be count to their performance because both fighters can surely box with one another and give their 2 previous matches this is a trilogy that many are awaiting, I will go with Miguel Cotto here.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 30, 2021, 07:22:49 PM

This is a surprise:

Miguel Cotto vs. Juan Manuel Marquez Exhibition Clash in Play For June 12

Quote

Multiple sources have informed BoxingScene.com that the pair of former four-division titlists are due to meet in an exhibition bout on June 12 from a location to be determined. Details on the event have yet to be confirmed other than that an announcement from both parties is expected in the coming days.

https://www.boxingscene.com/miguel-cotto-vs-juan-manuel-marquez-exhibition-clash-play-june-12--156534

Oh well, retired boxers are now on the exhibition match. I think this fight should have happened when they are still fighting, Pacquiao has the luxury to fight these two legendary boxers, specially Marquez. Information is sketchy at this point.

Perhaps Cotto will be the slight favourite here.

I've seen the previous matches of Cotto and Marquez especially when they fought Manny Pacquiao. As for me, this is really a perfect match but I guess Marquez has an edge since he has a longer boxing experience than Cotto. It will surely be a tough fight and I'm looking forward to being entertained by this match.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on April 02, 2021, 08:34:37 AM

Generally speaking, I think it is hard to make a bet and analyze an exhibition match compared to a real professional match. You cannot just take into consideration their power, strength, athleticism, etc because they are just playing boxing.

There may still be a desire to win but that is not as strong as that which is coming from a professional and young fighter who is still very hungry to make a better record. To these retired men, for as long as they get paid everything's good.

I agree we should not expect a big thing in this exhibition match, there's really nothing at stake here, they should enjoy the match they are aged boxers and there's no expectation of coming back again to fight again in a real boxing match, there could be a stipulation that they should not hurt each other or even score a knockout, there's a big difference fighting now, then their heydays.

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Another boxing exhibition match brewing up. Some are still in the pipeline. Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Jr. were done as well as Nate Robinson and Jake Paul. Dela Hoya is planning to return. Floyd Mayweather and Logan Paul's match was postponed. Jake Paul and Ben Askren are expected to face each other inside the boxing ring come April. Entertainment galore!

I guess this is courtesy of covid-19 as ex-boxers and other MMA fighters and other sports discipline is finding their way inside the right and generate money. Miguel Cotto and JM Marquez has a storied carrier in boxing and maybe they wanted to box again, make money or donate the proceeds to covid-19 victims in their respective countries.

I hope this is for charity or else the organizers are just like fooling the fans with such kind of fights. There are more promising prospects out there. They should instead focus on them. They should instead devote their money and time trying to put up better fights. I respect these boxers but it is undeniable that they already have their time. Now is the time for others. Let the limelight be focused on the younger generation.

Charity or not it doesnt matter and i agree into your words that they should rather skip on making these exhibition fights but instead make out some focus
into those who are really still active and not into those celebrities or retired boxers who do make out exhibitions because people wont really be that much of interested
with these kind of fights.

There might be some who will be that eyeing on some but not really that much.I'd rather wait for Joshua and Fury fight and reserve up my money on that
compared if you do waste up money on these kind of things.

Generally speaking, I think it is hard to make a bet and analyze an exhibition match compared to a real professional match. You cannot just take into consideration their power, strength, athleticism, etc because they are just playing boxing.

There may still be a desire to win but that is not as strong as that which is coming from a professional and young fighter who is still very hungry to make a better record. To these retired men, for as long as they get paid everything's good.

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cast my vote for Cotto.

If Cotto will be careful, he will beat Marquez as Marquez is only good with his counter punching skills, look how he fought Mayweather, he can't hit Mayweather because Mayweather is samrt and Marquez classic strategy did not work, boxing skill I'd go for Cotto, so I hope this is a serious announcement with some intent to make it happen.

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I'm glad that there are an equal support from these two fighters, some are in favor of Marquez while some are for Cotto.
Loving the poll result, it's current 4-5 in favor of Cotto, but I'll make it 4-6 because I'll bet for Cotto here to win the fight.

There are 2 who voted for a draw, but I doubt this will be a draw, its just an exhibition fight so draw is unlikely.

I think the opposite is true. A draw is more likely because it is an exhibition just like we saw in the Tyson vs. Jones fight. They probably already have two belts ready to give them also.

I'm okay with a draw as long as the fight is entertaining, in that case I guess I'll be ready with my bet on putting the draw once the odds are available. I search about the betting odds of this fight hoping someone would post but I can't see it anywhere, all I see is this news that they are planning for an exhibition fight.

Why it has become a trend now? who will be blame for this exhibition fights happening?

What if fighter will just retire and then do exhibition afterwards, isn't it fun?

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