Topic: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence (Read 8493 times)

That is if both of them still retained their titles if ever that time you're trying to say will come. As we all know, welterweight division also have their own strong title contenders that will give a good fight if they will be given a chance namely Vergil Ortiz Jr., Jaron Ennis (a young experienced boxer with 90% KO rate) lastly, there's this Canadian South Paw named Cody Crowley. All of which will be waiting for their chance to bite if the Spence-Crawford fight is still not happening.

maybe in the near future their promoter will decide that this two good boxer will face off because we all know that this is the fight what other people around the world want to see both fighter is undefeated then there's a thrill and exciting part when this fight will come . but maybe the next year this fight will be go and come to make people happy.

There was no beef between them 5 years ago, but they knew exactly that there will be a time that their path will cross someday. Their beef only began when people started teasing and gathering hype so that these two heavy names will fight. Spence has been in the division first way back 2015 and became a champion first holding the IBF when he knocked out Kell Brook while Crawford joined the club way back 2018 and fought directly with the WBO champion, Jeff Horn by KO too. Unfortunately, until now their fight is still not yet possible even if they are the only ones remaining who holds the titles.

That won't happen, it is too impossible to hear and see that Spence especially Al Haymon will admit that they are indeed ducking because they cannot afford right now to face the current strength of Bud Crawford. We can only speculate on who is really ducking between them but we cannot verify it.

Let's just enjoy their respective fights for now because this undisputed fight is still impossible to happen right now or at least next year. It will take some time before they will face each other, but that is if both of them will survive their future fights until they will meet again and share the same ring.

That is the kinds of questions that will be remained unanswered, unless Al Haymon or Spence will speak up or admit that either one of them was guilty and just afraid to face Crawford Seems unlikely, right? So, I guess that will remain unanswered.

Spence may have wanted the fight but he cannot do anything on his own accord because he still need Al Haymon's blessings anyway, just like Crawford when he was still under Bob Arum's umbrella. The fight may only happen if both of them are flying solo.

If I'm not mistaken, they started their beef with they move to the same division, and not just because fans are clamouring for their fight. They are the 2 best boxers in the welterweight so sooner or later they will cross their path. And again, if my memory serves me right, they have been calling each other for a fight. And when Crawford got the chance when he bolted out from To Rank so chase his dream fight, it wasn't meant to be this year.

Yes, until now they are still playing dumb amidst the issues and I'm sure they will do that until the situation cools down while taking another route to keep themselves busy rather than facing the issues thrown at them. Meanwhile, Spence is now taking Thurman next and it's a money fight again but still interesting to see because Thurman proved us that he still got the skills to face the biggest names in his division including Errol Spence.

But what if Spence is seeking for that 'danger'? Spence got the skills. Being young could give him a drive or a reason to go whatever comes to his mind especially if it is for the betterment of his career. It is hard to also tell whether the management of Spence is afraid of Crawford given that Spence has his own advantages. Probably there's more to that such as engaging to a more 'noisy' match up unless there's a personal goals on either Spence and Crawford's end. We have seen 'beef' before and these two didn't had it. It is just us, the fans, who are demanding for this one and if this thing won't happen, I guess the only thing we could do is to wait for their fate to go head to head, one day.

That's the thing that we cannot verify because both of them seems to be covering for each other and Spence cannot talk without Al, but it is clear that either one of them is afraid of Crawford and who knows what he could do, they just cannot stand the risk to scathe Errol Spence's career.

Spence can run away from Crawford for now, but he cannot do that forever and if Crawford will leave the industry without having the fight, Spence will end up facing the #1 contender Jaron Ennis and that's riskier than the old Crawford.

Being silent did not helped their situation at all because that way, they are just feeding the people information they needed that they are indeed the ones who ducked and needs to be blamed on why the fight did not happen. Spence may think that Al just wants to help him and preserve his status but sooner or later, he will find himself in the same shoes as Crawford because he risk with the chance to cement his legacy when he had the chance.

And that is why there are a lot of speculations as to why the fight didn't happen.

But then again, as fans we know that their should be no more issues, but it seems that Al Haymon is a control freak and wanted to have the majority of the money in the table.

Who knows, if Spence is afraid, if that is the case then his legacy will be tainted because of fight not happening.

Just show how powerful Al Haymon is in the business of boxing. Powerful enough to not push the fight in one of the biggest in 147 lbs in recent years. And it seems to me that Spence Jr have been sort of brainwashed that he didn't need Crawford to be great or a legend. But we think otherwise.

Maybe the camp of Spence and Al Haymon will be silent about that issues until it settles down. But that is a sign that somewhat what Crawford says in public is true as they are not refuting it at all.

It's safe to say that Al Haymon and Errol Spence will remain silent until the issue cools down and for me, there's no need for them to talk because our questions are already answered by Crawford's statement. No need to know Errol's or Al's side because I don't think that Crawford is lying, it's clear that he's the victim and wasted his time going back and forth with the hopes that they will give him that fight.


That's what we thought but it seems that there's another stumbling block because the fight became impossible to happen. If you ask me why, my answer would be that Spence and Al is afraid of what the current Crawford can do. Spence's chances is not that big against the prime Crawford, that's why they can't risk to materialize the fight as of now.

Yes, but still though, you can sense that Spence is not going to accept it in public that they are the reasons for this falling out.

Crawford recognized that he can't make the fight with Bob, and so he decided not to sign the contract. And yet why the fight didn't still happen? They said Top Rank and PBC are not in good terms, unfortunately even if Crawford is no longer with Top Rank and try to negotiate himself in the fight, PBC tries everything in their power to not just give him a fair deal, but stall the fight multiple times since May.

I think that one of the reasons why this episode was not executed this year is due to low demand or lack of interest from fans, I do not remember if I read it here in the forum or I got it in an article that they said or did understood something like that, besides that Spence did not want to, then Crawford wants to attract attention in another way and that is by making a fight where he must undoubtedly win so that they can attract more attention to Spence, although many say that they give Spence as the winner is a option that is handled here in speculation and discussion, this is something that we must be aware of, boxers are the athletes who are most interested in seeing them, it is something that many fans ask for.

For me this is something that was not very well squared, I think it was that there was a lack of more demand according to some of the things that were speculated around there, however the Crawford thing was something that I did not like, for me that Crawford was preparing for a long time and this motivated him a lot, because when the time comes he really wants to beat Spence, but it didn't go so badly either because he managed to agree to a fight, and maybe this is a step for him to take more attention on Spence and about the hard fanatic, because if the fight did not happen due to lack of demand it is something that can be fixed with that, if he wins the fight it already causes a little more emotion and they can do very big things, if not Spence can be another.

I think you mean Crawford's blaming Spence including Al because they are the main factors on why the unification fight suddenly become hard and impossible for Crawford. Well, it's understandable that Spence cannot do anything because Crawford was in that same situation too when he was still with Bob Arum. I just pity Crawford because he waited long enough to the point that he was already inactive for a year, and this is what he received.

I share the same sentiment with you mate, there's a probability that Spence wanted that fight to happen as well but he couldn't do as he please because he is under Al Haymon's control. I know that it got him interested when he heard from Crawford that there are two big companies who are willing to make the fight happen and bring a heavy guaranteed money on their pockets, but as you know, Al Haymon doesn't want it.

^ Yes, that's the thing when fighters are under contract, in this case Spence under PBC. He can't do anything if the management says that he needs to fight boxer A. So even if he doesn't want to, for sure he will be force to fight Thurman next as they have been mandated.

As of now, Spence is still blaming Crawford for their fight not happening.

And with that, both fighters now have move on, they will have their own schedule fight. Not sure though if the doors is still open for another set of negotiations if they win their respective fights as Crawford make it public as what is the reasons.

Spence is under control of AI Haymon of the PBC which means like so said above that if spence don't like the fighter that he gonna fight but if AI want them to face each other then for sure spence will fight that fighter as it was the recommended by the team. But if that's will happen thurman vs spence then it's gonna be a good fight as we all know that this both fighter are good in offenses so what we are expecting is like a veteran fight.

Errol Spence probably won't fight Thurman but the Al Haymon of the PBC wants him to fight Thurman, it turns out that Spence doesn't have any voice at all because the fact that he remained silent means that he's effectively under Al's control. There's no way that Al Haymon will skip that money fight because Spence clearly have the upper hand compared to Thurman.