Topic: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence - page 3. (Read 8496 times)

Ok guys here is what Crawford has to say about the failed negotiations, In summary:

1. Crawford starts talking to Al Haymon of PBC in May
2. Crawford got a contract along August, and according to him it's not even a regular contract
3. Haymon said that he is talking to someone from Team Crawford, but Crawford himself says that he didn't even know the person
4. Crawford tells Al that there are 2 companies are interested in the fight and willing to pay $25 m each guaranteed purse.
5.  ‘I’m not letting nobody touch this fight.’ Haymon said

You can read everything here: https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/11/2/23436522/terence-crawford-tells-all-on-failed-negotiations-with-errol-spence

And perhaps everyone can give  their opinion on who is to blame on this mess up. Or probably you can see how powerful Al Haymon is, or at least his tactics in negotiations. And maybe why it's hard to make fight between him and Top Rank.

There could still be fight in the horizon though, but for us this is a super fight, and we all know that 147 lbs is like the premier weight in boxing and throughout it's history we have a lot of great champions, recently Manny Pacquiao or Floyd.

But the door is still open though, I still believed that this fight can be made next year after they got their cherry pick fight.

It's unfortunate because it's not just this thread but that's what all boxing fans want to see.  In reality there aren't many good fights ahead of us in the near term this would have been the fight that would have gotten everyone excited.  Oh well.

Yes and it's somehow useless to even think of this fight and speculating it further because both camps already stopped talking, now they are going separately just like Crawford having a fight next month. Let's just discuss this topic again soon if there will be some rumors surfacing again regarding their unification fight.

We don't know what is the reason for this fight not moving forward, we all have our speculations but no one is going to tell the truth and both sides will always defend themselves as the reasons for the derailing of the fight. So it could be very complex or just easy that anyone can adjust.

Anyhow, yes, there are still a good chance that the fight could be settle for next year, so let's hope that this unification will happen in 2023.

Of course there are still many who hope they can meet. But now their problem is very complex and chaotic.
Currently a lot of speculation is emerging and growing and this has caused a lot of fans to be disappointed in the two of them.
I think for now it's still deadlocked on this issue and causing this much-loved match won't happen this year.
But I still hope that next year we will see their fight take place.

That is just another speculation added to this thread and likely remain unanswered because we don't have any ways to know what is that specific reason that made Crawford fighter another boxer instead of Spence. Either way, even if we can answer some of the questions, the fight is still not happening this year and that is for sure. Someone is playing it safe but neither one of them will reveal it.

If I were Crawford, I would really be open to the public on the exact whereabouts on the fight and the reveal the real reason on why the fight didn't materialize as people already expected it to happen. I wouldn't be taking the heat of criticisms and blame for sure because the people know that I'm so eager to make this fight happen and let the public know that Spence is truly ducking and playing the delay card over me.

Probably, but who knows, maybe next year there will be a fresh set of negotiations between the 2 camps and this fight comes to fruition when everyone thought that the fight is dead.

So yeah, might as well keep the thread open, and when there is an update, someone could pick it up and post it here. But for this year, the fight is officially not going to happen.

50 page thread on a fight that might never be 😲.  I hope as much as ypu all this goes down but got to face the facts it just might never come to fruition.  Just might need to let this thread die a peaceful death .

Spence camp might have another reason that's why Crawford's camp decided to agree to fight different fighter
instead of waiting for nothing.

I see your point in terms of trying to hype this fight, but that's no longer the case
here, the fight may or may not happen, but if ever they can always open their communication
to one another to discuss again their demands.

We all expected that they were just trying to hype the fight more to make sure that the cuts will be met before announcing their schedule this year but that's not what happened, it looks to me that they aren't after the fact if the fight is marketable or not because if that is truly the case then I bet we already have the unification fight scheduled. Spence is getting the blame and criticism because we all know that Crawford wanted the fight, but Spence's camp makes it hard for Bud.

It will not happen if only one party agree to fight, most importantly, there should already be a contract, otherwise, this fight is not gonna happen and they will only let us continue to make hype of this fight. Crawford is willing but it seems like Spence has no answer from it, if he has, it's not specific or confirming that the fight will happen.

Crawford vs Spence fight  would be a interesting and crazy since both fighters are have same boxing styles and their speed on fighting is same level as Manny Pacquiao. This fight has been talked about for a long time and I hope it will happen. However, both sides are not interested on this fight because of the money, they not interested on the rewards because it is so small unlike in Pacman vs Mayweather.

Yes, no one is going to take the blame as why the fight didn't materialized, majority of us have been speculating that it was on the side of Spence, as if they are deliberately trying to stall and delay the fight and wait till Crawford gets old or be beaten.

On the other hand, Crawford did severe his tie with Bob Arum so that he can pursue this mega-fight. And now that it didn't push through, we were wondering if that is the right move for him to go on his way with this negotiations or not.

That is the problem right there because none of them is willing to disclose some information regarding on why the fight didn't materialize, we can speculate all we want on who is ducking who but we cannot prove it because all the information are kept behind the curtains. Honestly, we have had high hopes for this one that it would happen easily but the exact opposite happened.

Well, you're right about that, what happens is that sport always keeps people young and makes them live longer, maybe Tyson's inactivity has made him like that with all those ailments, the sciatic nerve is one of the strongest ailments that exist, I've never had it, but my wife does suffer from it and there are times when she can't even get out of bed and the pain grips her entire leg, now I can imagine what Tyson must feel since they are athletes who always They have worked with much more effort and with more weight, these things are what make a boxer stronger, and the fact of being in good health at an older age is already a great luxury.

I think that here what there was was a lack of interest on the part of Spence, Spence almost did not think this fight while Crawford did, it was very important to him, for this reason I think Crawford made the decision to fight not against him but with another opponent, the idea is that he get a little more fame so that he can have the best attention from the great boxers and for the next one it will be Spence himself who looks for the fight and not him, it is already something very different if this happens, at least I see it that way, and the strategy that Crawford is using is very good, I think he has to do it that way so that he can be more successful in his next rematches.


In spite of everything Crawford is somewhat astute, he is a boxer who knows what he has and how he can do things in the fight, if he himself understands that to achieve a victory he needs a lot of work and effort, his training must be very intense and cash, maybe he has already been training and needs to get the benefits of it, I think that seeing that a fight with Spence is not possible, which could send him to fame or end up burying him, he is playing it with these fights he wants for him, it doesn't matter if it's for 2023, the idea is that he can build victories, it's the only way that Spence can be interested.

Eddie Hearn would be the most suitable person for that, and he is exactly what Crawford needed because I certainly think that he can't really manage to do it all alone especially about business. By now, I know that Crawford already know what to do next when they will have an open discussion again because he wasted months in that same discussion, but nothing had materialized.

He should act fast about it because time is not on his side and I agree on what you've said, if the fight won't happen in 2023 then Crawford will be playing at the disadvantageous side. I know he doesn't want that though.

The rumors are senseless, both camps are just blaming each other and we don't know who is telling the truth. What we like to see is this fight going to happen this year but until now there's no positive news, so let us stop expecting it's gonna happen this year or even next year as most likely one of them will move up in weight.

Lots of reasons but I'm more interested in this story:

"Contract talks were agreed upon by Spence’s camp, yet Crawford had issues with the deal. Crawford wanted a fully guaranteed deal and approval on expenses related to the fight. It’s unheard of for a fighter to ask for approval for expenses because that’s normally the promoter’s responsibility.

As much as others believed that Spence is trying to avoid Crawford, for me, that was all just a hate comment towards Spence as even Crawford itself didn't mention that Spence is avoiding why the fight failed.

And the funny thing is, BLK Prime, the one that announced the fight between Crawford and Avanesyan in December isn't ringing a bell for some boxing enthusiasts.

Even Spence said in the interview that he doesn't know who Avanesyan is lol.

Why are DeSoto’s Errol Spence Jr., Terence Crawford not fighting? It’s boxing