Topic: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence - page 10. (Read 8491 times)

Exactly, the hype is already there. The problem of todays fighters is that, they lack the courage of risking their records to a fellow fighter who did thought stronger than them or have an equal ability and skills with them.
We do not certainly know which one of them are holding to preserve their precious records. They can say whatever they can in relation with pursuing this match. However, either of them can always find a reason to cancel the match.
I'm afraid this will be another Manny vs. Floyd match, met in the ring past their prime. I personally don't know who's ducking and who's not, but with the fans' perspective, Floyd was the one who's ducking to preserve his precious record.

Yes you are right that mate and For sure there's a rematch after this fight will end like what other fight did before for example Manny pacaman vs Marquez after their first meet a losser raise for a a second meet which is a rematch. and this will be happen if this fight will happen too because they see both undefeated once this fight will end Into KO or even draw then rematch clause will be rise too.

There is really a rematch clause in the terms as far as the original terms are concerned.

And if ever things will be official now, let's expect that the rematch clause is included in the terms.

A rematch is really needed as this saga shouldn't end in a single fight.

But before we discussed the rematch clause, let's hope that this fight will be saved from being jeopardized as mentioned recently on this thread.

Maybe fulfilling but I'm pretty sure once this fight happens there will be a rematch clause, so whoever wins the fight is not going to enjoy holding the belt for long as the loser might take revenge in the rematch. This would happen especially if the fight is close or will end in a controversial decision by the judges, but as a fan, I would rather see a KO than taking this fight to the hands of the judges.

Who will win this possible fight will take home all the belts from this division. It will be a fulfilling legacy for the winner.

Though there is still negotiation and there are no clear updates in terms of confirmations between the two camps
and yes, they are not getting any younger might be possible if, in case they will not proceed, both camps will find
another challenger and make a decent amount of winning profits.

Both camps are demanding and very meticulous in the details of the contract, they have already months to settle all the issues, this is what happens if one of the camps does not want the fight to proceed and will make it appear that the other camp that doesn't want the fight to push through.

It's now or never for both camps there are a lot of promising boxers on the rise and one of them is Ennis, they are not getting any younger anymore but up to now both of them don't have what you might be called a legacy fight, this fight is a legacy fight that will define their respective career.

I follow you with that. The terms and conditions still on the negotiations part both camps might have demands that they wanted
to settle before they will sign the contract.

Whatever it is only them knows, maybe it will be announced if they already done with the contract signing, for now it's just simply
a speculation, but no definite or concrete reasons.

Ticket sales are not a problem, as both fighters do have solid supporters to buy tickets and pay for PPV.

Right, when they win against their worth opponent, Crawford against Porter, and then Spence vs Ugas. Everyone is delighted that finally a unification fight in the biggest division of boxing. But now the tune has change.


Yeah, that is the option left for now, leave it as it is and hope that they fight is going to be pushed by either side and not shelved it totally. Or someone big stepping up to tell both camps to make it because the demands for the fans is really there.

Probably this is the biggest stumbling block as we thought that the fight is sealed already. And yes, his might be going back into circles and really nothing is going on the negotiations. We know that this fight will be sold out in days after it will be announced. But so far, it will be delayed already, the November date could be given to other fights by the venue as for sure they will update us that it will be December and then next year, this could be the pattern, short of saying that it won't be in 2022.

Delaying the fight is not necessary anymore, as if this fight will not be sold out once it is announced. There are big reasons behind, it's probably not because they are not yet convince they can make the target revenue in this fight but most probably the terms on both teams are not yet meet.

In my opinion maybe they are delaying the fight because they all know that what ever they do fans from the both fighter will want to see this big event by the two undefeated boxers. But for sure someday or somehow this fight will be open soon.  And if we talk about the tickets sell then for sure in just an days or a weak before it available to sell it will sold out. But what we must to do right now is that to wait until they announce a final decision about this fight.

It's been hyped since May this year and I think both camps started talking last June or July, fans have been feeling great and delighted when they knew that the deal is finally finished and both camps are just waiting for the contract but few days later, everything turns to gray as the fight is now back on square one.

Maybe it's much better to leave it as is and just wait for them whenever they are ready because I believe that they are doing anything they can, it's just there are some unexpected problems. There are some rumors that either one of the camps is stalling but sadly, we cannot verify that information.

Kept on hearing his name that's why I decided to watch some of his fights because on paper, he is already considered pretty but when I saw his fights, no wonder why he is so hyped this days. The man has a knockout ratio of 90% and his punches are truly explosives that will always makes its way to the opponent's temple. But I don't know why he is touted to be the next Floyd, all I can see is he have the same facial structure but skills? Not so. Either way, this looks entertaining but people still wanted a Crawford vs Spence fight and in fact they are still waiting for the good news even if it's already rumored that the fight is near to impossible.

In that you are absolutely right, I think that what Crawford defends him the most is the zero fear of fighting with Spence, I do not know if Spence wants to delay the fight, but I do not think it will affect Crawford for me the result will be the same, what I think that at any moment the result can be the same, for me there is no difference, if Spence does not prepare as he is, I think he would be the one who would lose the most, Crawford has many advantages, I think he has a lot of solidity in his strategies If in a fight things got out of control I think the boxer has learned to mature what he has already learned, for me it is a golden opportunity that cannot be wasted.


Well, we are in the world of boxing and we always put our points of view, we share great news and possible speculations of what may happen, however, I believe that this fight will happen, in fact what is most handled here is the broad business model that is generated with these fights, we can see that through Spence and Crawford it is being taken with greater concern, some of the fans just want to see this fight to place their bets, and they want to know what the boxers think , be above their sponsors, I think deep down they both want to fight, if we put aside all business and money, these two should fight and I know they want to fight.


It may be that these things are happening, but in part, I believe that a fight as good as this should happen, in fact I think it will happen, for me these things have a lot to do with the part of the rivalry between the two, I think that these boxers have a lot of dislike for each other and this pleases the fans, although as I said before, I know that the World Cup in Qatar is approaching and attention at the world level will be focused in that direction, I think that boxing fans want action, but good action, from which they can make an unforgettable fight, I think that if it is this year or the other, it should happen, now what I can think is that maybe they got some kind of statistics and they don't see it as viable for now .

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Here I have some information that was produced, it is very interesting:

Errol Spence on Terence Crawford fight: “S**t is happening next, all you need to know!”








Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/10/errol-spence-on-terence-crawford-fight-st-is-happening-next-all-you-need-to-know/

It may be that all this is part of what both boxers are doing to add some spice to it, it may be a good surprise for this end of the year, we could talk about an end-of-the-year fight of the moment! You never know.

This is a bad news for now to the boxing fans  because as a fan of boxing I can not deny that I am very sad to hear this because we all know how interesting this fight is, and  both fighters has a skill and good strategy in terms of boxing and they are both undefeated champions.. but  what we want to see is in our imagination only because this fight will not be gonna happen for now maybe in next year's this fight will happen .

Indeed but unfortunately, we cannot do anything about it because that same dispute whether if it's big or small, that will likely be the reason why this fight will not materialize. It might be a speculation for now but anywhere I looked into, things are not getting good and that speculation is the nearest possible scenario because if not, then there's no reason to delay the fight any longer.

^ Again, the fight has been hype already and to that point that it seems that our waiting is turning into disappointment because of the time that we have to wait and then we don't know if who is balking or stalling or if they have the contracts but a lot of points to be cleared. Hopefully that talks is still going on secretly as they don't want to preempt to get leak to the media as this is a very important fight in the division, it's a unification fight and I don't remember when it did happen at 147 lbs.

That can be used as an excuse though, it's not good because it will only make the fight delayed or worst not gonna happen due to a fighter so demanding. They have terms to agreed on, if they'll not agree in all the terms, then it's safe to assume that no fight is gonna happen, our job of hyping this fight is going to be useless.

I would love these sanctioning bodies to start their mandatories now. I'm sick of Spence and PBC playing shit for many years and nothing serious. But I know that these sanctioning bodies can be negotiated secretly except maybe the IBF.

 

I have here the current top 10 rankings of the welterweight division taken from wiki. So yes, it is really Jarron Ennis as IBF number 1. I really really hope that the IBF starts calling for a mandatory defense. I actually believe that Spence will also duck Ennis as he is too risky with low returns. I can smell PBC and Spence trying hard to tell IBF to not declare a mandatory defense since Spence moves up soon.

The welterweight division is stacked with young prospects that are very dangerous of which Bud and Spence might rather move up in weight for bigger money and new title achievement goals. The division got Vergil Ortiz, Eimantas Stanionis, Jarron Ennis, and former undisputed super lightweight champion Josh Taylor might also move up after his next fight. It's a shame sanctioning bodies are ignoring Radzhab Butaev after his very close decision defeat to Stanionis. I believe these guys will beat Keith Thurman. They are also probably the reason why Danny Garcia move up in weight rather than fighting them.

After some good news about the chances of getting this fight materializing this year, it's now at risk of being jeopardized.

I understand that they don't want to disclose the agreed purse split in public but both parties should be transparent about it between them. We will follow the story and hopefully, it can still be fixed for us to witness to fight this November. If failed, we have to wait for next year. I don't mind waiting instead their match-up will not happen for real.

Errol Spence Jr.-Terence Crawford title fight at risk over dispute on contract details, sources say

Errol Spence Vs. Terence Crawford: Dream Fight In Jeopardy Because Of Contract Dispute