Topic: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman - page 21. (Read 7332 times)

If there is something that is clear to me, it is that Spence will not accept an exhibition fight, I think this boxer is looking for a higher level in terms of his category, he has not accepted a fight with Crawford who has done everything to be able to have a great performance. , now less if there is nothing associated with winning, in the case of Spence I speak, in the case of Thurman, I believe that anything is gain, but for him it could give more reputation and that is something that cannot be measured as a title, It's different, and maybe it's the boost he needs for him and open the doors for him, I think that's one of the reasons why maybe Spence wants this fight, to take pressure off of Crawford, well in itself that's what I speculate and I think it may be one of the reasons.


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Errol Spence Jr vs. Keith Thurman sanctioned by WBC





Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/errol-spence-jr-vs-keith-thurman-sanctioned-by-wbc/

Yeah, and I think he is not into boxing anymore after that huge and humiliating lost to Manny Pacquiao. Because after that, he focuses himself to be a boxing commentator. And probably he has still a contract with PBC that's why he was somewhat 'force' to might Barrios at 147 lbs which is just a so so performance from him. And then he comes back again, and fighting the best version of Spence here. So this could really be make or break for him if he losses and probably he won't get the glory that he had, as he once dominated this division.

Thurman's career has been on a downward slide ever since he lost to Manny Pacquiao. So much so that his last year's win against Mario Barrios went almost unnoticed. Back then, he was the overwhelming favorite to win (although betting odds swung to Pacquiao's favor later as his fans rushed to make bets). After his loss to Pacquiao, he took a break from boxing, for almost 3 years. The fight against Spence is a chance of redemption for Thurman. He is 34-year old and this fight represents a golden opportunity for him to return to the form he once he had.

Keith Thurman is fighting Erroll Spence Jr. not because he wants to but rather because that's an offer.

As a former title holder and one of the dominant boxers before in his division, that is something a good opportunity and a big break he will have after a long hiatus since being defeated by a veteran Pacquiao and coming back later with a win against a not-that-big opponent.

If upset will happen, then let's see what's next for these two.

Trying out to look into his last fight which is against Barrios on last year ends up on Unanimous decision but not all would really be that amazed on what he had done there.Its been a while before he gets back into the ring after that Pacquiao fight in year 2019 which do ends up on split decision but its obvious on whose the winner of that and a bit mix of hamulating on that particular fight,
and now he's fighting Spence? I dont see any chance for him to win just like the rest but we know that upsets could happen whether they do make out some good preparations
or could pull off some lucky hard punch. 

Hehehe, maybe some of us here wanted to see Thurman pull the biggest upset in 147 or 154 lbs and beat Spence hard.

But you have to think at where Thurman is right now, lost to Manny, had several injuries, didn't show good against a overblown 140 lbs fighter in Barrios and has a weakness, body punch. So it's tough for him to upset, but we will give him that chance though.

Who knows, maybe he will just wake up and suddenly become the Thurman at his prime and give on hell of a fight.

No need to be hasty if I were Thurman because time is still by my side as I'm not that old to be hasty to have some belts, but I won't argue with you, belts is really good as Thurman's situation will make a big difference if he will upset Spence and get his belts, and in the first place, that's what Thurman wanted that is why he agreed to make this fight despite the order of WBC.

Well, to be honest, I just wanted that Thurman will indeed upset Spence even if there's no risk for the latter as there's no belt on the line. I just want them to have their first defeat, so that they will know and reflect on themselves that they are taking things too far and making an unjust situation for the other boxers.

For sure thurman will do his very best to win this fight and prove that he can be a good boxer and be a star in thier division. Once he will win this fight then his name will go more popular and known. So for now he must survive this challenge in order to have a good race in his career. Without a doubt for sure thurman can really do it as we all know how he fights inside the ring how is strategy work .

Yup, even there's no belt that in stake the hypes for his name once he beats Spence is still good for his fame. If he's into a money fight, winning is a key to bring more for him.

Though, as a fighter who wanted to have a good legacy, belt is still very important aside
from the money that in stake the pride gives more credit when you already retire your gloves.

Thurman can still benefit even if there's on belt on the line, he is fighting a champion and if he wins this fight, that would make him more popular and maybe next time he will be the one sitting at the top dictating the terms. A challenger would also do  everything, take the opportunity to fight and win until he gets his ultimate goal which is the belt.

With no belts on the line, I have no clue why Thurman accepted the deal. Money could be to blame. Spence is the most money Thurman can make now that Pacquiao has retired. In addition, it is highly unlikely that PBC would permit Thurman to be fed to Crawford, a boxer outside of their promotion. I also want Thurman to win, but he needs to go back to the time when he wanted to fight the champions and the biggest names in boxing. It was the time when he was undefeated. Barrios is not Errol Spence, either.

Nothing we can do now as this fight will now be pushed.

In fairness, Keith Thurman can't be considered 100% cherry-picked. Even inactive for a long before his last win, Thurman might have the chance to give Spence some difficulties once they meet in the ring. Not unless there's a behind-the-table agreement since this fight is not just a clown but can be a staged one. I'm surprised that Thurman accepts this deal with all the favors to Spence. Maybe there's a secret agreement? That is possible.

Regardless, I like Thurman to be the serious Thurman that boxing fans usually see about him during his prime.

If by chance, I like him to win over Spence, from there, let's see what will be the next possible plans for Spence camp.

People already know the truth and it's evident enough why all fingers are pointing towards Errol Spence Jr. and Al Haymon, the fact is, the played Terence Crawford for months and let him expect that a fight will materialize. They haven't thought about their move well that someday it would backfire at them as they can't just hold those belts forever even if they got some influence.

Spence's camp are just hiding behind the reason that they already cemented their legacy, therefore Crawford won't be needed anymore. Honestly, when did they cemented it? After Ugas fight? They can't honestly fool everyone with that kind of shallow reasoning.

It's clearly a duck on Spence side, if we are talking about the Crawford fall out. Yes, no doubt that Tim Bradley was a great boxer in this prime specially at 140 lbs and that big head is an advantage to him too because it's a tough nut to crack  .

But in any case regarding his opinion and analysis, it's a hit or miss as far as I know and he uses to exaggerate things when he talk about certain boxers and fights. I like Shawn Porter though, since he just retired and most of the fighter in 147 he has fought them so he really knows what he is talking when he discussed this division.

Every time I see Spence's face or his name online, I cannot stop my mind from thinking of a duck. Anyways, Tim Bradley and Shawn Porter are always the guys that I like listening to since they speak honestly and their opinions and analysis are free from any bias unlike those plastic shits when facing the camera. I'd rather hear someone honest. Tim is so right about entertainment and boxing. Boxing is entertainment but there are levels of it. Cherry picking like what Jake Paul, Tank Davis, and Ryan Garcia for example are just pure entertainment which is good for the money but they don't get legacies on their win.

Tim Bradley anyways just got inducted into the Hall of Fame. 2 division champion and was a unified and lineal champ at 140. Bradley didn't duck anybody during his time. It's a shame Spence took 3 belts already yet he failed to get the Ring belt award and be considered lineal since #1 and #2 in the division should fight each other in order to earn that recognition. I'd rather be Pacman who's got no major belts at 126 and 140 yet he was considered the lineal and held the Ring belts in those divisions after beating the real kings of those divisions.   

I don't really understand this either, I don't know how Spence could have something like this, if we already have an additional precedent, we know very well that Crawford has done everything to be able to have a fight with him and he hasn't been able to achieve anything, I know something sad but I honestly think it's the fight that everyone wants, I don't know if Spence has this fight without any apparent risk just to escape a possible challenge that Crawford already has, and it's something sad, because it would have to be presented that Spence fall in this or any other fight for him to have much faster access to him, however many of the fans like this fight, and want to place good bets.


This is very interesting, clearly, as he said, the rise in category would leave it out, but I think that the tone that Bradley used is obvious, he says it as if to "sting" Spence, and that can take a turn, it's not good at all For a boxer to say something like that, and even less to one like Spence, I know that Crawford looked for a fight against Spence a lot, but if it didn't happen and I went to iotri buvek, it's something lost, and yes, this has a different connotation From how we fans see it, this is something that can be noticed as running away, and each person gives their point of view, even if it sounds ugly, it will be to wait and see how this ends.

Spence doesn't need to respond to accusations leveled by Bradley. Because it was WBC which agreed to convert the 154 lb match between Spence and Thurman to 147 lb title defense. The decision was made by WBC, and it was extremely unfair to other boxers such as Yordenis Ugas, Jaron Ennis and Terence Crawford. Out of these three I would rate Crawford as the best right now, because he has won all his matches by KO for the last 6-7 years, including the tough fight against David Avanesyan (KO in 6th round, match happened last month).

I haven't heard Tim Bradley's comment but I will agree that 147 lbs in the most stack up division for decades. I mean it's the cream of boxing besides the Heavyweight division. Bradley knows this as he has fought Manny at this weight.

In any case though, all fingers point to Errol Spence and his camp regarding the fall out, and it seems that he is not denying it isn't it? because we just hear him and his team says that they don't need Crawford because they have cemented their legacy already. But as fans we think otherwise, we need to see this fight happening as we want to see the best fighting against each other, and that is the history of that division.

He always has that reason when he wanted to avoid a great fighter. I used to remember how he avoided the old Pacquiao. It was a supposed
matchup between him and Pacquiao but in the last minute he got an eye surgery.

And we know what happened next, facing Ugas after watching how the new champ fought. He dominated him and claim the belts that
originally Pacquiao has.

We don't know what happened with the deal matchup against the other belt holder. He can unify all the belts if ever he will face
Crawford, but still, we don't hear anything about it.