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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 24, 2023, 03:20:57 AM

LOL.. anyone listened to the comments from Timothy Bradley Jr.? He accused Errol Spence of running away from a fight with Terrence Crawford. Now with Spence moving up a weight class, this fight will never take place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_x2VF1-q6Q

I don't necessarily agree with the rant from Bradley. But there is no question that 147 lb is the toughest division out there. Even after the departure of Spence and Thurman, this division now consists of Jaron Ennis, Terence Crawford, Conor Benn and Yordenis Ugas. Now compared to this, 154 looks like kindergarten class.

I have the same observation with Bradley, I really thought that Spence is dodging Crawford because he knows he might lose in the fight. Crawford is way more faster and than him, and both of them have power to KO their opponent, so Spence probably have calculated his chance, he is so practical but it's not good for the fans as he is a champion and yet does not want to have that undisputed fight.

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LOL.. anyone listened to the comments from Timothy Bradley Jr.? He accused Errol Spence of running away from a fight with Terrence Crawford. Now with Spence moving up a weight class, this fight will never take place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_x2VF1-q6Q

I don't necessarily agree with the rant from Bradley. But there is no question that 147 lb is the toughest division out there. Even after the departure of Spence and Thurman, this division now consists of Jaron Ennis, Terence Crawford, Conor Benn and Yordenis Ugas. Now compared to this, 154 looks like kindergarten class.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 23, 2023, 09:39:36 PM

I'm not underestimating Thurman's boxing ability and even power. But he's not anymore a class A boxer right now. He's gone past that already. He used to be. Now, he's been inactive. He left the boxing scene for almost 3 years, went back for a single fight, went inactive again for a year, and then this fight. And this fight is not against somebody who's a no-name in sports. It is against an Errol Spence.

I'm not exaggerating Spence's abilities either. He could be defeated by a Keith Thurman. But with the way things have been, it could indeed be a Spence win. The odds this early is even giving Spence a big -800 advantage.

I may say this fight will be more likely like how Spence fought with Ugas, though he has some more power, he hasn't been fighting someone the likes of Spence, and automatically he will gonna be the underdog also the one who needs to train more to surpassed the fans expectations of him. This is actually a good opportunity for Thurman if he really wants to regain himself because Spence is at his best currently and in this kind of sport, anything could really happen. what if he will gonna lands a lucky power shot that would gonna end Spence's clean record?

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Well I can't deny that I would like Thurman to be able to give a big surprise, I know something I would really like, honestly the one who has the advantage here is Spence, and of course they also have a lot to lose if they lose against Thurman, so they don't I think it will only leave him so easy, however Spence is one of those boxers who will not leave anything in the air or leave eggs, he will start with everything from the beginning, I think that because of his style he will seek to make a knockout I don't know what a hunch tells me, that way they will finish sealing their supremacy (if they succeed) otherwise, I think they will be able to put on a good show.

Thurman got a big break so he will surely do everything to win on this fight.

Regardless of the contract terms here on this fight, doesn't really matter as the important thing here is, he is against a champion.

If he win, just imagine the amount of big benefits he will get. He will try to be aggressive here.

This is most likely to end up with Spence winning, probably even via knockout. This might actually even turn out an easy fight for him. If I will risk my money, it would be for Spence. But since I won't be betting on this fight, I hope that Thurman will come out with a smooth upset. He can do this. I won't be betting though. It is because the odds for Spence are not worth betting. Although it could end up in a KO victory, Spence has been winning SD and UD's in his last fights.

I don't think so, Spence maybe good, a champion and undefeated but the quality of fighter he is facing is class A. I mean he needs to have a good strategy in order to beat Thurman via KO, what I see is, if Spence will win, it could be via decision as he might be busier fighter in this fight.

Thurman has a decent record, and he also believe that his career is not over, that's why he came back to prove that he belongs to the champions league.

I'm not underestimating Thurman's boxing ability and even power. But he's not anymore a class A boxer right now. He's gone past that already. He used to be. Now, he's been inactive. He left the boxing scene for almost 3 years, went back for a single fight, went inactive again for a year, and then this fight. And this fight is not against somebody who's a no-name in sports. It is against an Errol Spence.

I'm not exaggerating Spence's abilities either. He could be defeated by a Keith Thurman. But with the way things have been, it could indeed be a Spence win. The odds this early is even giving Spence a big -800 advantage.

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I think there's no title that will be defended by Spence on their upcoming fight, right? Please feel freely to correct me if ever I'm wrong because to be honest, I'm really confused by their mandatory fight as their fight has been mandated to be fought at 154 lbs. where Spence has no belts. In addition, I'm under the impression that Thurman have no choice to agree because his time will be wasted if he won't be having any fight this time as his original mission is to chase some belts.

Since the fight is agreed on the higher weight Division, and not on the title's division, so yes there is no title defense which in contrast to the order released of the governing body of title defense. I am still in confusion why does the fight like this happen in the higher division and why does the boxing council accept this kind of arrangement when they are the one that ordered for that fight to happen. Is boxing turning into a circus now? Where there is no rulings anymore and the boxer is freely able to decide the category to fight?

Since many are confused too about how this fight turned out, no choice but to wait for the result.

I'm thinking what will be the situation here if Thurman will upset Spence at 154 lbs.

I don't want the fight to happen but now, I want to see right away the possible aftermath of this fight regardless of who's the winner.

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Thurman has nothing to lose here as he is just a challenger, Spence has a bigger future if he can continue to retain the title and that undefeated record, so the pressure is not on Thurman. I like to see Thurman relax like what he did against Pacman, he had some trouble in the early rounds but in the later rounds he was able to make a good adjustment that almost resulted to a win via split decision.

Probably he has learn from that lesson, but I do believed that Thurman is not the same any more after his injury, yes of course he will continue to trash talk but that's it. Against Barrios, he just had a so-so performance, not enough to warrant a statement win.

But he can still pose a challenge to Spence, the risk is there but not that high. But to make sure about it, no belt is on the line and the fight is going to be a weight class higher at 154 lbs.

I think each boxer has something to lose when they fight, one of which is the record and another one is the opportunity to get the title, for the challenger and keeping the title, for the champion. I do think that Thurman was been exposed by Manny in their fight, hopefully, Thurman is working to fix that weakness, else he will be kissing the canvas if ever Spence had noticed that weakness.

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Well I can't deny that I would like Thurman to be able to give a big surprise, I know something I would really like, honestly the one who has the advantage here is Spence, and of course they also have a lot to lose if they lose against Thurman, so they don't I think it will only leave him so easy, however Spence is one of those boxers who will not leave anything in the air or leave eggs, he will start with everything from the beginning, I think that because of his style he will seek to make a knockout I don't know what a hunch tells me, that way they will finish sealing their supremacy (if they succeed) otherwise, I think they will be able to put on a good show.

Thurman got a big break so he will surely do everything to win on this fight.

Regardless of the contract terms here on this fight, doesn't really matter as the important thing here is, he is against a champion.

If he win, just imagine the amount of big benefits he will get. He will try to be aggressive here.

This is most likely to end up with Spence winning, probably even via knockout. This might actually even turn out an easy fight for him. If I will risk my money, it would be for Spence. But since I won't be betting on this fight, I hope that Thurman will come out with a smooth upset. He can do this. I won't be betting though. It is because the odds for Spence are not worth betting. Although it could end up in a KO victory, Spence has been winning SD and UD's in his last fights.

I don't think so, Spence maybe good, a champion and undefeated but the quality of fighter he is facing is class A. I mean he needs to have a good strategy in order to beat Thurman via KO, what I see is, if Spence will win, it could be via decision as he might be busier fighter in this fight.

Thurman has a decent record, and he also believe that his career is not over, that's why he came back to prove that he belongs to the champions league.

He's trying to work on it to prove that he still the shot in having the title, I agree that once they both inside the ring, it will be
tough for both fighters to win over another.

Both are eager to win, we might see them in a different fighting style to destruct their opponents from how they prepared.

Expecting to see Spence throwing that combination to try winning a KO fight against another prime fighter.

Thurman has nothing to lose here as he is just a challenger, Spence has a bigger future if he can continue to retain the title and that undefeated record, so the pressure is not on Thurman. I like to see Thurman relax like what he did against Pacman, he had some trouble in the early rounds but in the later rounds he was able to make a good adjustment that almost resulted to a win via split decision.

Probably he has learn from that lesson, but I do believed that Thurman is not the same any more after his injury, yes of course he will continue to trash talk but that's it. Against Barrios, he just had a so-so performance, not enough to warrant a statement win.

But he can still pose a challenge to Spence, the risk is there but not that high. But to make sure about it, no belt is on the line and the fight is going to be a weight class higher at 154 lbs.

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Quote from: Japinat on January 23, 2023, 03:36:08 PM

I think there's no title that will be defended by Spence on their upcoming fight, right? Please feel freely to correct me if ever I'm wrong because to be honest, I'm really confused by their mandatory fight as their fight has been mandated to be fought at 154 lbs. where Spence has no belts. In addition, I'm under the impression that Thurman have no choice to agree because his time will be wasted if he won't be having any fight this time as his original mission is to chase some belts.

Since the fight is agreed on the higher weight Division, and not on the title's division, so yes there is no title defense which in contrast to the order released of the governing body of title defense. I am still in confusion why does the fight like this happen in the higher division and why does the boxing council accept this kind of arrangement when they are the one that ordered for that fight to happen. Is boxing turning into a circus now? Where there is no rulings anymore and the boxer is freely able to decide the category to fight?

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Well I can't deny that I would like Thurman to be able to give a big surprise, I know something I would really like, honestly the one who has the advantage here is Spence, and of course they also have a lot to lose if they lose against Thurman, so they don't I think it will only leave him so easy, however Spence is one of those boxers who will not leave anything in the air or leave eggs, he will start with everything from the beginning, I think that because of his style he will seek to make a knockout I don't know what a hunch tells me, that way they will finish sealing their supremacy (if they succeed) otherwise, I think they will be able to put on a good show.

Thurman got a big break so he will surely do everything to win on this fight.

Regardless of the contract terms here on this fight, doesn't really matter as the important thing here is, he is against a champion.

If he win, just imagine the amount of big benefits he will get. He will try to be aggressive here.

This is most likely to end up with Spence winning, probably even via knockout. This might actually even turn out an easy fight for him. If I will risk my money, it would be for Spence. But since I won't be betting on this fight, I hope that Thurman will come out with a smooth upset. He can do this. I won't be betting though. It is because the odds for Spence are not worth betting. Although it could end up in a KO victory, Spence has been winning SD and UD's in his last fights.

I don't think so, Spence maybe good, a champion and undefeated but the quality of fighter he is facing is class A. I mean he needs to have a good strategy in order to beat Thurman via KO, what I see is, if Spence will win, it could be via decision as he might be busier fighter in this fight.

Thurman has a decent record, and he also believe that his career is not over, that's why he came back to prove that he belongs to the champions league.

He's trying to work on it to prove that he still the shot in having the title, I agree that once they both inside the ring, it will be
tough for both fighters to win over another.

Both are eager to win, we might see them in a different fighting style to destruct their opponents from how they prepared.

Expecting to see Spence throwing that combination to try winning a KO fight against another prime fighter.

Thurman has nothing to lose here as he is just a challenger, Spence has a bigger future if he can continue to retain the title and that undefeated record, so the pressure is not on Thurman. I like to see Thurman relax like what he did against Pacman, he had some trouble in the early rounds but in the later rounds he was able to make a good adjustment that almost resulted to a win via split decision.

I think there's no title that will be defended by Spence on their upcoming fight, right? Please feel freely to correct me if ever I'm wrong because to be honest, I'm really confused by their mandatory fight as their fight has been mandated to be fought at 154 lbs. where Spence has no belts. In addition, I'm under the impression that Thurman have no choice to agree because his time will be wasted if he won't be having any fight this time as his original mission is to chase some belts.

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Well I can't deny that I would like Thurman to be able to give a big surprise, I know something I would really like, honestly the one who has the advantage here is Spence, and of course they also have a lot to lose if they lose against Thurman, so they don't I think it will only leave him so easy, however Spence is one of those boxers who will not leave anything in the air or leave eggs, he will start with everything from the beginning, I think that because of his style he will seek to make a knockout I don't know what a hunch tells me, that way they will finish sealing their supremacy (if they succeed) otherwise, I think they will be able to put on a good show.

Thurman got a big break so he will surely do everything to win on this fight.

Regardless of the contract terms here on this fight, doesn't really matter as the important thing here is, he is against a champion.

If he win, just imagine the amount of big benefits he will get. He will try to be aggressive here.

This is most likely to end up with Spence winning, probably even via knockout. This might actually even turn out an easy fight for him. If I will risk my money, it would be for Spence. But since I won't be betting on this fight, I hope that Thurman will come out with a smooth upset. He can do this. I won't be betting though. It is because the odds for Spence are not worth betting. Although it could end up in a KO victory, Spence has been winning SD and UD's in his last fights.

I don't think so, Spence maybe good, a champion and undefeated but the quality of fighter he is facing is class A. I mean he needs to have a good strategy in order to beat Thurman via KO, what I see is, if Spence will win, it could be via decision as he might be busier fighter in this fight.

Thurman has a decent record, and he also believe that his career is not over, that's why he came back to prove that he belongs to the champions league.

Well, I guess there's only one way to find out who is really more dominant between the Keith and Errol. I can't blame some people if they are siding with Spence because he has been giving some impressive wins lately while Thurman just got out by a long sleep under the radar and just fought 1 boxer before facing a champion like Spence. Not underestimating the two of them but I expect a good fight because both got a decent record.

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Well I can't deny that I would like Thurman to be able to give a big surprise, I know something I would really like, honestly the one who has the advantage here is Spence, and of course they also have a lot to lose if they lose against Thurman, so they don't I think it will only leave him so easy, however Spence is one of those boxers who will not leave anything in the air or leave eggs, he will start with everything from the beginning, I think that because of his style he will seek to make a knockout I don't know what a hunch tells me, that way they will finish sealing their supremacy (if they succeed) otherwise, I think they will be able to put on a good show.

Thurman got a big break so he will surely do everything to win on this fight.

Regardless of the contract terms here on this fight, doesn't really matter as the important thing here is, he is against a champion.

If he win, just imagine the amount of big benefits he will get. He will try to be aggressive here.

This is most likely to end up with Spence winning, probably even via knockout. This might actually even turn out an easy fight for him. If I will risk my money, it would be for Spence. But since I won't be betting on this fight, I hope that Thurman will come out with a smooth upset. He can do this. I won't be betting though. It is because the odds for Spence are not worth betting. Although it could end up in a KO victory, Spence has been winning SD and UD's in his last fights.

I don't think so, Spence maybe good, a champion and undefeated but the quality of fighter he is facing is class A. I mean he needs to have a good strategy in order to beat Thurman via KO, what I see is, if Spence will win, it could be via decision as he might be busier fighter in this fight.

Thurman has a decent record, and he also believe that his career is not over, that's why he came back to prove that he belongs to the champions league.

He's trying to work on it to prove that he still the shot in having the title, I agree that once they both inside the ring, it will be
tough for both fighters to win over another.

Both are eager to win, we might see them in a different fighting style to destruct their opponents from how they prepared.

Expecting to see Spence throwing that combination to try winning a KO fight against another prime fighter.

Thurman has nothing to lose here as he is just a challenger, Spence has a bigger future if he can continue to retain the title and that undefeated record, so the pressure is not on Thurman. I like to see Thurman relax like what he did against Pacman, he had some trouble in the early rounds but in the later rounds he was able to make a good adjustment that almost resulted to a win via split decision.

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Well I can't deny that I would like Thurman to be able to give a big surprise, I know something I would really like, honestly the one who has the advantage here is Spence, and of course they also have a lot to lose if they lose against Thurman, so they don't I think it will only leave him so easy, however Spence is one of those boxers who will not leave anything in the air or leave eggs, he will start with everything from the beginning, I think that because of his style he will seek to make a knockout I don't know what a hunch tells me, that way they will finish sealing their supremacy (if they succeed) otherwise, I think they will be able to put on a good show.

Thurman got a big break so he will surely do everything to win on this fight.

Regardless of the contract terms here on this fight, doesn't really matter as the important thing here is, he is against a champion.

If he win, just imagine the amount of big benefits he will get. He will try to be aggressive here.

This is most likely to end up with Spence winning, probably even via knockout. This might actually even turn out an easy fight for him. If I will risk my money, it would be for Spence. But since I won't be betting on this fight, I hope that Thurman will come out with a smooth upset. He can do this. I won't be betting though. It is because the odds for Spence are not worth betting. Although it could end up in a KO victory, Spence has been winning SD and UD's in his last fights.

I don't think so, Spence maybe good, a champion and undefeated but the quality of fighter he is facing is class A. I mean he needs to have a good strategy in order to beat Thurman via KO, what I see is, if Spence will win, it could be via decision as he might be busier fighter in this fight.

Thurman has a decent record, and he also believe that his career is not over, that's why he came back to prove that he belongs to the champions league.

He's trying to work on it to prove that he still the shot in having the title, I agree that once they both inside the ring, it will be
tough for both fighters to win over another.

Both are eager to win, we might see them in a different fighting style to destruct their opponents from how they prepared.

Expecting to see Spence throwing that combination to try winning a KO fight against another prime fighter.

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Well I can't deny that I would like Thurman to be able to give a big surprise, I know something I would really like, honestly the one who has the advantage here is Spence, and of course they also have a lot to lose if they lose against Thurman, so they don't I think it will only leave him so easy, however Spence is one of those boxers who will not leave anything in the air or leave eggs, he will start with everything from the beginning, I think that because of his style he will seek to make a knockout I don't know what a hunch tells me, that way they will finish sealing their supremacy (if they succeed) otherwise, I think they will be able to put on a good show.

Thurman got a big break so he will surely do everything to win on this fight.

Regardless of the contract terms here on this fight, doesn't really matter as the important thing here is, he is against a champion.

If he win, just imagine the amount of big benefits he will get. He will try to be aggressive here.

This is most likely to end up with Spence winning, probably even via knockout. This might actually even turn out an easy fight for him. If I will risk my money, it would be for Spence. But since I won't be betting on this fight, I hope that Thurman will come out with a smooth upset. He can do this. I won't be betting though. It is because the odds for Spence are not worth betting. Although it could end up in a KO victory, Spence has been winning SD and UD's in his last fights.

I don't think so, Spence maybe good, a champion and undefeated but the quality of fighter he is facing is class A. I mean he needs to have a good strategy in order to beat Thurman via KO, what I see is, if Spence will win, it could be via decision as he might be busier fighter in this fight.

Thurman has a decent record, and he also believe that his career is not over, that's why he came back to prove that he belongs to the champions league.

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Well I can't deny that I would like Thurman to be able to give a big surprise, I know something I would really like, honestly the one who has the advantage here is Spence, and of course they also have a lot to lose if they lose against Thurman, so they don't I think it will only leave him so easy, however Spence is one of those boxers who will not leave anything in the air or leave eggs, he will start with everything from the beginning, I think that because of his style he will seek to make a knockout I don't know what a hunch tells me, that way they will finish sealing their supremacy (if they succeed) otherwise, I think they will be able to put on a good show.

Thurman got a big break so he will surely do everything to win on this fight.

Regardless of the contract terms here on this fight, doesn't really matter as the important thing here is, he is against a champion.

If he win, just imagine the amount of big benefits he will get. He will try to be aggressive here.

This is most likely to end up with Spence winning, probably even via knockout. This might actually even turn out an easy fight for him. If I will risk my money, it would be for Spence. But since I won't be betting on this fight, I hope that Thurman will come out with a smooth upset. He can do this. I won't be betting though. It is because the odds for Spence are not worth betting. Although it could end up in a KO victory, Spence has been winning SD and UD's in his last fights.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on January 22, 2023, 01:10:26 PM

Well I can't deny that I would like Thurman to be able to give a big surprise, I know something I would really like, honestly the one who has the advantage here is Spence, and of course they also have a lot to lose if they lose against Thurman, so they don't I think it will only leave him so easy, however Spence is one of those boxers who will not leave anything in the air or leave eggs, he will start with everything from the beginning, I think that because of his style he will seek to make a knockout I don't know what a hunch tells me, that way they will finish sealing their supremacy (if they succeed) otherwise, I think they will be able to put on a good show.

Thurman got a big break so he will surely do everything to win on this fight.

Regardless of the contract terms here on this fight, doesn't really matter as the important thing here is, he is against a champion.

If he win, just imagine the amount of big benefits he will get. He will try to be aggressive here.

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As for this fight, it's done deal already, hopefully we can see a good fight or even upset win from Thurman, who knows.

It's not impossible to happen, Spence has not fought a boxer like Thurman, and although he had one lose he was never been dominated by his opponent in the ring, his loss to Manny Pacquiao was a close one, so I will not count Thurman out, I mean he still has something to prove and he can definitely upset Spence who is the heavy favorite.

This fight, it gives us real entertainment as Spence will surely be busy protecting himself and looking for the perfect timing to hurt Thurman.
I'm just a little worried about Thurman's weak spot, his body.

If it wasn't for Pacquiao's early knockdown, the fight could've been owned by Keith because the judge's score wasn't that huge in gap but unfortunately that wasn't the case as he was surprised by the Philippine legend. So anyway, that's more than enough evidence to believe that Keith truly stand a chance against Spence and that he might be the one who will surprise us this time.

Well I can't deny that I would like Thurman to be able to give a big surprise, I know something I would really like, honestly the one who has the advantage here is Spence, and of course they also have a lot to lose if they lose against Thurman, so they don't I think it will only leave him so easy, however Spence is one of those boxers who will not leave anything in the air or leave eggs, he will start with everything from the beginning, I think that because of his style he will seek to make a knockout I don't know what a hunch tells me, that way they will finish sealing their supremacy (if they succeed) otherwise, I think they will be able to put on a good show.

Spence will defend his title and like what you mentioned he will take everything to secure a win, either to use more defensive
stop and not to give Thurman a chance to throw a solid combination,

Or, he can be more aggressive and try to KO Thurman in the early rounds, it will be defended from how they will prepare.

The good thing here is we will see who will shine up once they already inside the ring.

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Quote from: Vaculin on January 22, 2023, 10:31:06 AM

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As for this fight, it's done deal already, hopefully we can see a good fight or even upset win from Thurman, who knows.

It's not impossible to happen, Spence has not fought a boxer like Thurman, and although he had one lose he was never been dominated by his opponent in the ring, his loss to Manny Pacquiao was a close one, so I will not count Thurman out, I mean he still has something to prove and he can definitely upset Spence who is the heavy favorite.

This fight, it gives us real entertainment as Spence will surely be busy protecting himself and looking for the perfect timing to hurt Thurman.
I'm just a little worried about Thurman's weak spot, his body.

If it wasn't for Pacquiao's early knockdown, the fight could've been owned by Keith because the judge's score wasn't that huge in gap but unfortunately that wasn't the case as he was surprised by the Philippine legend. So anyway, that's more than enough evidence to believe that Keith truly stand a chance against Spence and that he might be the one who will surprise us this time.

Well I can't deny that I would like Thurman to be able to give a big surprise, I know something I would really like, honestly the one who has the advantage here is Spence, and of course they also have a lot to lose if they lose against Thurman, so they don't I think it will only leave him so easy, however Spence is one of those boxers who will not leave anything in the air or leave eggs, he will start with everything from the beginning, I think that because of his style he will seek to make a knockout I don't know what a hunch tells me, that way they will finish sealing their supremacy (if they succeed) otherwise, I think they will be able to put on a good show.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 22, 2023, 07:31:36 AM

Quote from: Jating on January 21, 2023, 05:22:12 PM

As for this fight, it's done deal already, hopefully we can see a good fight or even upset win from Thurman, who knows.

It's not impossible to happen, Spence has not fought a boxer like Thurman, and although he had one lose he was never been dominated by his opponent in the ring, his loss to Manny Pacquiao was a close one, so I will not count Thurman out, I mean he still has something to prove and he can definitely upset Spence who is the heavy favorite.

This fight, it gives us real entertainment as Spence will surely be busy protecting himself and looking for the perfect timing to hurt Thurman.
I'm just a little worried about Thurman's weak spot, his body.

If it wasn't for Pacquiao's early knockdown, the fight could've been owned by Keith because the judge's score wasn't that huge in gap but unfortunately that wasn't the case as he was surprised by the Philippine legend. So anyway, that's more than enough evidence to believe that Keith truly stand a chance against Spence and that he might be the one who will surprise us this time.

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Quote from: Jating on January 21, 2023, 05:22:12 PM

As for this fight, it's done deal already, hopefully we can see a good fight or even upset win from Thurman, who knows.

It's not impossible to happen, Spence has not fought a boxer like Thurman, and although he had one lose he was never been dominated by his opponent in the ring, his loss to Manny Pacquiao was a close one, so I will not count Thurman out, I mean he still has something to prove and he can definitely upset Spence who is the heavy favorite.

This fight, it gives us real entertainment as Spence will surely be busy protecting himself and looking for the perfect timing to hurt Thurman.
I'm just a little worried about Thurman's weak spot, his body.

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I certainly think that it wasn't a purse split issue because Terence Crawford himself revealed it in the interview last year that he also insisted that he is ready to accept 30% of the purse split just to make the fight happen and then weeks of going back and forth with the impression of the fight might happen at last, but in the end, he was just wasting some of his precious time because Al Haymon doesn't want a unification fight. Reasons are not disclosed as well but it's clear that they are afraid to risk Spence's title and value. So now, yes, time to forget about it.

We can consider purse split as one of the reasons but not a big reason why the fight failed.

From what I remember, Crawford accused the Spence camp of not being fully transparent on some parts of the contract terms.

Since then, no more news about the specific reasons why the fight failed so much better if everyone should move on from it now.

Purse split is really not the problem here as Crawford was already willing to accept as low as 30% just to make the deal much easier, but then Al Haymon found another way to get Crawford react about the deal and that is not giving him the transparency, that way Crawford will think that he will not be getting the full 30% because Spence and Al won't let him.

And let's say that Crawford is still with Bob Arum, I bet the latter won't accept the 30% because they have a reputation to uphold and the share is not that reasonable as well even if Spence got the A-side and is labeled as the PPV King. In the end, discussions will end without getting some contract inked.

Yeah but probably with Arum they can make their some concessions about the split and maybe the PPV so at least still get more of than 30% if that is the purse split. But since he has left Arum, he doesn't have anyone more experience in dealing with this kind of complication deal specially with the likes of Al Haymon who is very tricky as times.

Maybe Arum is now shrugging his shoulders once he hear that the fight didn't went on as expected and it could have been different if he is still managing Crawford, just saying.

As for this fight, it's done deal already, hopefully we can see a good fight or even upset win from Thurman, who knows.

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