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Quote from: btc_angela on January 13, 2023, 11:52:04 PM

I guess with the Crawford fight, majority of us says that it was Spence camp that is the main problem and probably doesn't want to give Crawford the fight, and the money and the chance to beat him, it's just sad though and this is clearly a duck on him.

That's exactly what I think, Spence is ducking Crawford, but for sure he cannot underestimate Thurman because Thurman was once a champ and he box really well.

Quote from: btc_angela on January 13, 2023, 11:52:04 PM

But with Thurman, could be, I mean it will be entertaining and interesting if the fight is going to be at 147 lbs and his belt on the line.

Guess his corner knows a thing or two, so instead of ducking Thurman as well, they just proposed a fight one higher weight class and without any of Spence belt for Thurman to get.

I think that is not fair, Thurman is a challenger, it's mandated by the organization, so he needs to fight Thurman and risk his belt.
My only basis why I think Thurman has a chance of beating Spence is their fights on Shawn Porter, I guess Thurman had a more convincing win.

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Interesting that this fight is going to be held at the super welterweight division now of 154 lbs? And yes probably just a question of weight issues for this two, maybe they are already outgrowing this weight classes already and so both parties agreed not to fight in the limit of 147 lbs?

I think Spence don't really want to give Thurman a title fight. As far as I remember I read Spence saying not giving a fight with Thurman but since the fight is unavoidable Spence camp give term that they will fight on junior middle weight which the camp of Thurman agree. So thinking of the previous scenario and the recent one, I believe that is one way of Spence tricking Thurman to have a non-title fight.

Yeah, duck Spence is making things personal. Probably the same reason why he never fought Crawford, I have a feeling that he felt shamed and bullied when he was surprisingly approached by the boogeyman. Looking at his face and gestures, he seemed pressured and was trying to remain calm with his fake smile but he can't stare at Crawford's eyes while he was being challenged and was laughed at.

I guess with the Crawford fight, majority of us says that it was Spence camp that is the main problem and probably doesn't want to give Crawford the fight, and the money and the chance to beat him, it's just sad though and this is clearly a duck on him.

But with Thurman, could be, I mean it will be entertaining and interesting if the fight is going to be at 147 lbs and his belt on the line.

Guess his corner knows a thing or two, so instead of ducking Thurman as well, they just proposed a fight one higher weight class and without any of Spence belt for Thurman to get.

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That's for sure that we fans will still watch any of those as long as Pacman is there. But we don't know if there's still the possibility that Pacman will have those matches professionally as he has given the hint that he's going for the exhibition matches and after signing with Rizin, I don't think that we'll see any of those in the near future. And who was it again that Pacman is going to have a match in Dubai this upcoming month? I'm quick in forgetting things these days, is it another exhibition?

It's fine mate, we all forget sometimes because we have lots of more important things to think of. Anyway, Pacman will be fighting his former sparring partner, Jaber Zayani, in Saudi Arabia and not in Dubai.

That said, it will be almost impossible for Pacquiao to have a fight with either Errol Spence Jr. or Terence Crawford because I bet he's already packed this year because of the fact that he just inked a contract with RIZIN. Aside from that, I don't really think that a fight like that will materialize because Pacquiao will need at least a few couple of months to prepare intensively given that he will be fighting a strong professional fighter.

Yeah, thanks for the correction. I thought that it was going to happen in Dubai and if I'll go through the pages, it'll take a lot of time for me. I guess that match with Jaber was already confirmed last year and then when Pacman signed for Rizin, yeah that's for sure that he's got a load of commitments already after that match. Maybe 2-3 matches might be seen for Pacman for this year, 3 is already too much so maybe with Rizin that's going to be an average of 2 including Jaber's.

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 13, 2023, 05:46:05 AM

Let's just have to move on and accept that fact the Pacman has retired for good, no more professional fight for him because he knows that he can damage himself if he fought a bigger guy like Spence or Crawford still in their prime years.

So lets this fight happen, whether 147 or 154 lbs if might be good for us boxing fans. At least Spence could argue that he is facing a live underdog as compare to Crawford who faces an unknown boxer in David Avanesyan whom he knockout.

You're right, more exhibitions and no more professional bouts for him. Going back to what the title of thread is all about, what do you suggest for the PPV?

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Quote from: goinmerry on January 13, 2023, 08:53:13 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I understand about this recent news regarding the possible fight of Errol Spence and Keith Thurman in April or May, the fight was sanctioned as a non-title fight, am I right? Therefore, isn't it a waste of a fighting match as both parties can instead fight on a worthy fight?

I can't think of what would be an advantage of these non-title fights to both parties. Just a business?

You can put it that way, the fight is happening at 154 lbs, so no belt is on the line for this fight. Well if Spence losses than he will not lose any of his belt obviously, and maybe it was a test for him how his power is going to be at this new division, if he can carry his power or not.

Quote from: goinmerry on January 13, 2023, 08:53:13 AM

If that so, why both agreed to that where there are much big fights that awaits him that is more valuable.

It's the risk that is involved, if Spence fight any of the new guys at 147 lbs with his belt on the line, then he might lose and his stock going down. So they make a clever proposal so as not to look they are ducking like Ennis or Ortiz to go and fight Thurman at the next weight class.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I understand about this recent news regarding the possible fight of Errol Spence and Keith Thurman in April or May, the fight was sanctioned as a non-title fight, am I right? Therefore, isn't it a waste of a fighting match as both parties can instead fight on a worthy fight?

I can't think of what would be an advantage of these non-title fights to both parties. Just a business?

If that so, why both agreed to that where there are much big fights that awaits him that is more valuable.

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We just don't know who's afraid, is it the boxer or the promoter.

Legacy can still be built even under a promoter. Look at where Pacquiao ended up.

However, there are boxers that like a pure legacy and the best example of that is, Terence Crawford. But look at what happened, they are having a hard time dealing with big names since he left Arum's background.

Spence Jr. on the other hand is more on building a business but still cares for legacy. They can settle a fight against big names but only if the price is right in favor of them. Not just being disclosed to the public but I think the slice of the pie has something to why their supposed fight with Crawford is not being materialized.

Then why did Pacquiao left Bob Arum and build MP Promotions afterwards if Pacquiao can really build the legacy he's after?

I think Pacquiao had established his career when he left Arum, it is also possible that Arum hinders Manny on who he wanted to fight since we all know, promoter does control the opponent of a boxer.

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Also, Terence Crawford really wasted his years under Bob Arum because I reckon that he could've got 1 more belt under him if he climb to another promotional company.

Sadly a boxer cannot do anything until their contract with the promoter expires. I think it is too frustrating to a boxer when the promoter don't make a deal with the opponent the boxer is rooting for.

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Now, it's too late because the 3 other belts are in Spence's possession and their camp doesn't want to give Crawford a chance. Let's just stop about that cut issues because we all know that it wasn't really the case because Crawford will still accept as low as 30% cut just to materialize the fight, but what happened is that they let Crawford wasted almost a year of waiting and gave some hopes that a fight will really happen.

It is not too late I think, if someone gets the three-belt from Spencer then Crawford can challenge that boxer.

Right! Pacquiao indeed already established his name in the industry before he left Bob Arum but I guess that's not enough because a superstar like Manny Pacquiao won't be leaving such promotional company if he's being handled well and gave what he wanted sometimes. We know that the promoter will always take an easy journey or will take a fight that his boxer got more chances because it's business after all and a defeat will decrease the boxer's value, although, there are some things that a boxer wanted and they wanted their voices to be heard.

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It is not too late I think, if someone gets the three-belt from Spencer then Crawford can challenge that boxer.

Well, you got a point. It's really not that too late because Keith Thurman or Boots Ennis will likely have those belts in the future but the question is, will Thurman face them? We aren't that certain because their camp is so silent and doesn't really wanted to disclose some information related to the fight.

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Interesting that this fight is going to be held at the super welterweight division now of 154 lbs? And yes probably just a question of weight issues for this two, maybe they are already outgrowing this weight classes already and so both parties agreed not to fight in the limit of 147 lbs?

I think Spence don't really want to give Thurman a title fight. As far as I remember I read Spence saying not giving a fight with Thurman but since the fight is unavoidable Spence camp give term that they will fight on junior middle weight which the camp of Thurman agree. So thinking of the previous scenario and the recent one, I believe that is one way of Spence tricking Thurman to have a non-title fight.

Yeah, duck Spence is making things personal. Probably the same reason why he never fought Crawford, I have a feeling that he felt shamed and bullied when he was surprisingly approached by the boogeyman. Looking at his face and gestures, he seemed pressured and was trying to remain calm with his fake smile but he can't stare at Crawford's eyes while he was being challenged and was laughed at.

Quote from: BitDane on January 12, 2023, 04:01:51 PM

But I wonder how did Spence be able to make WBC agree when WBC ordered Spence to defend its title against Thurman.[1] While WBA approved Thurman's request to have Spence defend his title against him.[2] Fighting in junior middleweight doesn't really make sense after all thegranted request and order from the boxing councils.

[1] https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10055263-errol-spence-ordered-to-defend-welterweight-title-vs-keith-thurman
[2] https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-spence-vs-keith-thurman-title-fight-approved-by-wba--170619

I don't know why Thurman agrees to a fight at 154 when he can have a shot at the 3 belts. And if Spence disagrees, then Thurman can fight for the vacant WBC belt. As per the latest WBC ranking, former number 1 Ortiz is at number 2 but the kid will face Stanionis for the WBA regular. This means Thurman can face number 3, Yordenis Ugas and it should not be that hard to make since they are all under the PBC umbrella. But looking at the way Thurman fights nowadays, he will also lose to Ugas and the money won't be as big as a Thurman-Spence fight. And Thurman probably doesn't care much about welter belts anymore since he was already a unified champ before. It seems like Thurman is ready to cash out big time and then leaves boxing again after getting KO'd by Spence. Cheesy

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I'm pretty sure people will still watch the between Pacman and Spence or Crawford.

That's for sure that we fans will still watch any of those as long as Pacman is there. But we don't know if there's still the possibility that Pacman will have those matches professionally as he has given the hint that he's going for the exhibition matches and after signing with Rizin, I don't think that we'll see any of those in the near future. And who was it again that Pacman is going to have a match in Dubai this upcoming month? I'm quick in forgetting things these days, is it another exhibition?

It's fine mate, we all forget sometimes because we have lots of more important things to think of. Anyway, Pacman will be fighting his former sparring partner, Jaber Zayani, in Saudi Arabia and not in Dubai.

That said, it will be almost impossible for Pacquiao to have a fight with either Errol Spence Jr. or Terence Crawford because I bet he's already packed this year because of the fact that he just inked a contract with RIZIN. Aside from that, I don't really think that a fight like that will materialize because Pacquiao will need at least a few couple of months to prepare intensively given that he will be fighting a strong professional fighter.

Or maybe the fight against Spence will not happen again as Pacman is already too old for a powerful boxer who is still in his prime. What people want to see is Spence vs Crawford, at least that fight is a clear 50/50, not compared to Pacman and people will just say he is already too old that's why he lose.

Yes, let's just not add Pacquiao into the discussion anymore because he already have his schedules fixed ahead of him while there are lots of boxers and fighters too that are calling for him. So, if the Spence-Crawford fight is still 50/50, how much more about that fight of Pacquiao-Spence/Crawford. The first said bout is what the people needed to see and to know who's really stronger between them and not some nonsense bout again that has no chance of happening.

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Interesting that this fight is going to be held at the super welterweight division now of 154 lbs? And yes probably just a question of weight issues for this two, maybe they are already outgrowing this weight classes already and so both parties agreed not to fight in the limit of 147 lbs?

Regardless, still a good fight if this is going to be held at 154 lbs, although no belts, at least there is no weight draining between the two and it could benefit Thurman since he comes from a long layoff so he doesn't need to put his body on another strain of making the weight limit as welterweight.

Check this:

https://www.espn.in/boxing/story/_/id/35420201/sources-errol-spence-keith-thurman-finalizing-april-fight

It says that the fight will happen at junior middleweight (154 lb). The statement was made by Gilberto Mendoza of the WBA. According to him, Spence was provided with a special permit (or exemption) so that he could fight in 154 without relinquishing his titles in the Welterweight (147 lb) division. Anyway, I believe that it will be hard for both Spence and Thurman to go back to 147, without damaging their capabilities. And from what I heard, although Spence was supposed to take on the winner from Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs Eimantas Stanionis, he has no intention to do so.

Thanks for the link, perhaps that is one reason, both of them can't make the weight at 147 lbs without damaging themselves, both are big guys so it make sense to just play it safe at 154 lbs although there will be no belts in the line.

So the pressure is still on Spence though, he has most of the belt, and so if might have to chose one to defend unless he decided to go up for good at 154 lbs after this fight.

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I'm pretty sure people will still watch the between Pacman and Spence or Crawford.

That's for sure that we fans will still watch any of those as long as Pacman is there. But we don't know if there's still the possibility that Pacman will have those matches professionally as he has given the hint that he's going for the exhibition matches and after signing with Rizin, I don't think that we'll see any of those in the near future. And who was it again that Pacman is going to have a match in Dubai this upcoming month? I'm quick in forgetting things these days, is it another exhibition?

Let's just have to move on and accept that fact the Pacman has retired for good, no more professional fight for him because he knows that he can damage himself if he fought a bigger guy like Spence or Crawford still in their prime years.

So lets this fight happen, whether 147 or 154 lbs if might be good for us boxing fans. At least Spence could argue that he is facing a live underdog as compare to Crawford who faces an unknown boxer in David Avanesyan whom he knockout.

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I'm pretty sure people will still watch the between Pacman and Spence or Crawford.

That's for sure that we fans will still watch any of those as long as Pacman is there. But we don't know if there's still the possibility that Pacman will have those matches professionally as he has given the hint that he's going for the exhibition matches and after signing with Rizin, I don't think that we'll see any of those in the near future. And who was it again that Pacman is going to have a match in Dubai this upcoming month? I'm quick in forgetting things these days, is it another exhibition?

It's fine mate, we all forget sometimes because we have lots of more important things to think of. Anyway, Pacman will be fighting his former sparring partner, Jaber Zayani, in Saudi Arabia and not in Dubai.

That said, it will be almost impossible for Pacquiao to have a fight with either Errol Spence Jr. or Terence Crawford because I bet he's already packed this year because of the fact that he just inked a contract with RIZIN. Aside from that, I don't really think that a fight like that will materialize because Pacquiao will need at least a few couple of months to prepare intensively given that he will be fighting a strong professional fighter.

Or maybe the fight against Spence will not happen again as Pacman is already too old for a powerful boxer who is still in his prime. What people want to see is Spence vs Crawford, at least that fight is a clear 50/50, not compared to Pacman and people will just say he is already too old that's why he lose.

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Quote from: Questat on January 12, 2023, 12:05:57 AM

I'm pretty sure people will still watch the between Pacman and Spence or Crawford.

That's for sure that we fans will still watch any of those as long as Pacman is there. But we don't know if there's still the possibility that Pacman will have those matches professionally as he has given the hint that he's going for the exhibition matches and after signing with Rizin, I don't think that we'll see any of those in the near future. And who was it again that Pacman is going to have a match in Dubai this upcoming month? I'm quick in forgetting things these days, is it another exhibition?

It's fine mate, we all forget sometimes because we have lots of more important things to think of. Anyway, Pacman will be fighting his former sparring partner, Jaber Zayani, in Saudi Arabia and not in Dubai.

That said, it will be almost impossible for Pacquiao to have a fight with either Errol Spence Jr. or Terence Crawford because I bet he's already packed this year because of the fact that he just inked a contract with RIZIN. Aside from that, I don't really think that a fight like that will materialize because Pacquiao will need at least a few couple of months to prepare intensively given that he will be fighting a strong professional fighter.

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Quote from: btc_angela on January 12, 2023, 02:04:23 AM

Interesting that this fight is going to be held at the super welterweight division now of 154 lbs? And yes probably just a question of weight issues for this two, maybe they are already outgrowing this weight classes already and so both parties agreed not to fight in the limit of 147 lbs?

Regardless, still a good fight if this is going to be held at 154 lbs, although no belts, at least there is no weight draining between the two and it could benefit Thurman since he comes from a long layoff so he doesn't need to put his body on another strain of making the weight limit as welterweight.

Check this:

https://www.espn.in/boxing/story/_/id/35420201/sources-errol-spence-keith-thurman-finalizing-april-fight

It says that the fight will happen at junior middleweight (154 lb). The statement was made by Gilberto Mendoza of the WBA. According to him, Spence was provided with a special permit (or exemption) so that he could fight in 154 without relinquishing his titles in the Welterweight (147 lb) division. Anyway, I believe that it will be hard for both Spence and Thurman to go back to 147, without damaging their capabilities. And from what I heard, although Spence was supposed to take on the winner from Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs Eimantas Stanionis, he has no intention to do so.

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Quote from: btc_angela on January 12, 2023, 02:04:23 AM

Interesting that this fight is going to be held at the super welterweight division now of 154 lbs? And yes probably just a question of weight issues for this two, maybe they are already outgrowing this weight classes already and so both parties agreed not to fight in the limit of 147 lbs?

I think Spence don't really want to give Thurman a title fight. As far as I remember I read Spence saying not giving a fight with Thurman but since the fight is unavoidable Spence camp give term that they will fight on junior middle weight which the camp of Thurman agree. So thinking of the previous scenario and the recent one, I believe that is one way of Spence tricking Thurman to have a non-title fight.

But I wonder how did Spence be able to make WBC agree when WBC ordered Spence to defend its title against Thurman.[1] While WBA approved Thurman's request to have Spence defend his title against him.[2] Fighting in junior middleweight doesn't really make sense after all thegranted request and order from the boxing councils.

[1] https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10055263-errol-spence-ordered-to-defend-welterweight-title-vs-keith-thurman
[2] https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-spence-vs-keith-thurman-title-fight-approved-by-wba--170619

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Quote from: Questat on January 12, 2023, 12:05:57 AM

I'm pretty sure people will still watch the between Pacman and Spence or Crawford.

That's for sure that we fans will still watch any of those as long as Pacman is there. But we don't know if there's still the possibility that Pacman will have those matches professionally as he has given the hint that he's going for the exhibition matches and after signing with Rizin, I don't think that we'll see any of those in the near future. And who was it again that Pacman is going to have a match in Dubai this upcoming month? I'm quick in forgetting things these days, is it another exhibition?

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BTW, last month there was an announcement from Pacquiao that he can come out of retirement to fight either Errol Spence or Terence Crawford. I don't think that it will happen though. Pacquiao vs Spence was scheduled in 2021, but was cancelled as a result of injury to the former. Now both Spence and Crawford are having packed schedule and they may not be interested in a match against Pacquiao.

It's not that exciting anymore because after he fought Ugas, everything was clear and he is no longer the same he once was. People will no longer interested to watch that match because we obviously know the result are far worse than how he performed in his last pro boxing career and might probably he won't reach the last round anymore. Pacquiao should continue bullying celebrity boxers like he did with Kyoo Haha.

He had an excuse that time and he wasn't really moving well because of leg cramps, this comeback fight maybe good for him to prove that he is till here and he can fight. I'm pretty sure people will still watch the between Pacman and Spence or Crawford.

Nah, Manny is out already, he just signed with Rizin though but this is for the exhibition match.

Interesting that this fight is going to be held at the super welterweight division now of 154 lbs? And yes probably just a question of weight issues for this two, maybe they are already outgrowing this weight classes already and so both parties agreed not to fight in the limit of 147 lbs?

Regardless, still a good fight if this is going to be held at 154 lbs, although no belts, at least there is no weight draining between the two and it could benefit Thurman since he comes from a long layoff so he doesn't need to put his body on another strain of making the weight limit as welterweight.

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BTW, last month there was an announcement from Pacquiao that he can come out of retirement to fight either Errol Spence or Terence Crawford. I don't think that it will happen though. Pacquiao vs Spence was scheduled in 2021, but was cancelled as a result of injury to the former. Now both Spence and Crawford are having packed schedule and they may not be interested in a match against Pacquiao.

It's not that exciting anymore because after he fought Ugas, everything was clear and he is no longer the same he once was. People will no longer interested to watch that match because we obviously know the result are far worse than how he performed in his last pro boxing career and might probably he won't reach the last round anymore. Pacquiao should continue bullying celebrity boxers like he did with Kyoo Haha.

He had an excuse that time and he wasn't really moving well because of leg cramps, this comeback fight maybe good for him to prove that he is till here and he can fight. I'm pretty sure people will still watch the between Pacman and Spence or Crawford.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 11, 2023, 09:30:26 PM

BTW, last month there was an announcement from Pacquiao that he can come out of retirement to fight either Errol Spence or Terence Crawford. I don't think that it will happen though. Pacquiao vs Spence was scheduled in 2021, but was cancelled as a result of injury to the former. Now both Spence and Crawford are having packed schedule and they may not be interested in a match against Pacquiao.

It's not that exciting anymore because after he fought Ugas, everything was clear and he is no longer the same he once was. People will no longer interested to watch that match because we obviously know the result are far worse than how he performed in his last pro boxing career and might probably he won't reach the last round anymore. Pacquiao should continue bullying celebrity boxers like he did with Kyoo Haha.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 11, 2023, 08:56:01 PM

Yep, but so far it's still very effective for him as he is still in his prime and can command huge amount as he is the cash cow. I can't say about his injury though, we will have to find out if it healed 100% or if he can reinjured it again, whoever whom he will face next.

But he was able to get back to winning form against his nemesis, GGG. So for sure there are still hype around him after his lost to Bivol. Just like what Manny in his career, he has a lot of losses, but was able to comeback and still get huge amount of money.

Canelo still has at least 8 years or career in professional boxing ahead of him. So you may be correct. The same can be said about Spence, as he is of the same age as Canelo (although I don't think that he commands the same market dominance as Canelo in his respective division). All they need to do is to stay away from getting injured.

BTW, last month there was an announcement from Pacquiao that he can come out of retirement to fight either Errol Spence or Terence Crawford. I don't think that it will happen though. Pacquiao vs Spence was scheduled in 2021, but was cancelled as a result of injury to the former. Now both Spence and Crawford are having packed schedule and they may not be interested in a match against Pacquiao.

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Canelo though is wise now not to tie up or sign a longer contract after he severe his relationship with Oscar Dela Hoya. Now him and Eddie Hearn is just like 2-3 fights and after that whether Canelo will renew his contract or not.

This strategy has its own risks associated with it. If he loses 2-3 fights consecutively, then his market value may decline. Having a lengthy contract with someone like Eddie Hearn protects him from that. Also, injury is a big concern. If he is forced out for an extended duration as a result of injury, it may not be easy for him to get a big fight once he is back. And this is where a long-term contract maybe useful. In the end, it is up to Canelo to decide what is best for him. But he is no longer considered as invincible, after his loss to Dmitry Bivol.

Yep, but so far it's still very effective for him as he is still in his prime and can command huge amount as he is the cash cow. I can't say about his injury though, we will have to find out if it healed 100% or if he can reinjured it again, whoever whom he will face next.

But he was able to get back to winning form against his nemesis, GGG. So for sure there are still hype around him after his lost to Bivol. Just like what Manny in his career, he has a lot of losses, but was able to comeback and still get huge amount of money.

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