[Boxing] Figueroa vs Magsayo WBC Interim Featherweight Title (March 4) - page 2.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 05, 2023, 06:01:14 AM

Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

I was shouting at my television while watching it. For Magsayo to stay in the distance while Figueroa is trying to close the gap. Magsayo is winning at his own range, the jabs are going in, and the combos are also sinking in the face of Figueroa. If he only listened to his coach when he said he should go for 3 punches and then go out then he might be the winner of that fight.
Brandon had a difficult time reaching him, but he got Magsayo to fight the close range and he fell for it.
I don't think it's the training, it's the listening that he should practice.

I do not agree with the scorecards too but I know he lost that fight after the 2 points were deducted. I gave him 4 of the first 6 rounds but the rest of it is either on Figueroa's or a tie. Stamina is a big issue for him and it's not surprising anymore.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 05, 2023, 06:01:14 AM

Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

He didn't work hard in this comeback fight and he just loses that easily, too much confidence in his skills and he didn't practice some more to surprise his opponent. That's just how the game is, some will win and some will lose and obviously Figueroa had known his boxing style that's why he can't be much effective against him. Well, chances are few in the boxing fight, with a straight loss like this one, I wonder if they still gonna give him chance to get a good fight such as this one next time.

I don't think Magsayo didn't practice; that would discount the success of Figueroa. Let's just say that Figueroa's talent is better than Magsayo's, and that's the reason why he won the fight. Magsayo is not on the level of the champion now, and the two losses he had resulted in him being an ordinary boxer again. Let's not force the issue; Magsayo lost, and that's it.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 05, 2023, 06:01:14 AM

Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

I definitely agree that Figueroa deserves that win but i don't think the gap on the scorecards is justifiable. In the unofficial scorecards of the commentators, they scored it 114-112 in favor of Figueroa and if not for the point deductions, it could have been a draw in the unofficial scorecards and that point deduction by the ref is also questionable as he did not warn Magsayo not to hold or whatever that warrant a deduction if he keeps on doing it.

Anyways, that's boxing and it's understandable that the ref and judges will favor Figueroa as he is more popular in the US, also Mark Magsayo was not so impressive in that fight.

Congrats to the Figueroa backers here and if my memory is right, that should be 2.xx for Figueroa to win via decision.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 05, 2023, 06:01:14 AM

Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

He didn't work hard in this comeback fight and he just loses that easily, too much confidence in his skills and he didn't practice some more to surprise his opponent. That's just how the game is, some will win and some will lose and obviously Figueroa had known his boxing style that's why he can't be much effective against him. Well, chances are few in the boxing fight, with a straight loss like this one, I wonder if they still gonna give him chance to get a good fight such as this one next time.

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On the other side, Magsayo has been winning and fighting year to year. Absolutely no stopping him! Aside from his one recent loss, his track record is way better. Obviously he is going to win this fight with certainty.

He lost though so he is stop on his track, so both are coming from a lost, and so the winner will obviously bounce back with a big win here.

I would be happy if Magsayo wins this match. He is listed as the underdog, so for us bettors, this is a great opportunity to bet and make a decent return if Magsayo does indeed win.

Same here, I also like Magsayo to win this match. He badly need to win this fight so that he can have a chance to redeem himself by having a rematch against the champion Vargas.

I honestly agree with you both. Not only does Magsayo need to win his upcoming fight but he also needs to fix his hurt pride from his last bad match. Its hard to say why he lost but if you ask me, I would qualify that loss as a fluke. That should not have happened.

I also agree with the fact that this fight is really nice pickings for us, the bettors who know and love Magsayo. Of course devotion alone does not win fights but devotion always has roots and a good reason.

No doubt in my mind that Magsayo will redeem himself and give us an easy win with great odds.

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When the rematch of this two players will happen,it was not sure the same results will come.The reason for this is the stamina of the player was not same on different day.Magsayo game was different now,he lost two matches is not an expected one.To beat the another boxer,he should keep the stamina by the good food like meat daily and avoid of alcohol.Some boxer was not in concentration on their health.Because health is important one for the boxer as compared to the normal man.With health the stamina of the players should keep in mind.Even the Magsayo come back after the long back,the two loss of the matches not expected one by their fans.

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Quote from: Taskford on March 05, 2023, 07:13:23 AM

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I don't think he can get either a rematch with Vargas or Figueroa, it will all be the same results.

He needs to go back down again and try to rejuvenate his career, at least fight someone decent or cherry pick so that he will have this confidence back.

Actually Magsayo get defeated with the same way, where he was use a lot stamina in the early rounds and slowly get beaten in the late rounds. He still not able to find a way to beat a boxer with reach advantage, Magsayo shouldn't only looking to win via knock out since top boxers will have a tough chin.

It's really bad to see Magsayo have lost his last 2 fights, it will not easy for him to comeback since he might depressed with this result.

Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

Nope its decent win for Figueroa there's no question regarding on his victory since we see how Magsayo ran out of gas and the minus points for Magsayo is very crucial which totally affect his points so I guess that's a bad fight for him. He better do more better because this is big lose for his career many thought he is the one who fight with Vargas but this will never happen as Figueroa won the match.

There's no question that Figueroa won this match; it was a clear domination by him, as Magsayo just couldn't be accurate with his punches, and he ran out of gas, so this fight wasn't really for him. Let's give credit to the winner, although Figueroa really broke some hearts here, LOL.

Congratulations to the backers of Figueroa. What was the betting odds of Figueroa winning via decision?

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I don't think he can get either a rematch with Vargas or Figueroa, it will all be the same results.

He needs to go back down again and try to rejuvenate his career, at least fight someone decent or cherry pick so that he will have this confidence back.

Actually Magsayo get defeated with the same way, where he was use a lot stamina in the early rounds and slowly get beaten in the late rounds. He still not able to find a way to beat a boxer with reach advantage, Magsayo shouldn't only looking to win via knock out since top boxers will have a tough chin.

It's really bad to see Magsayo have lost his last 2 fights, it will not easy for him to comeback since he might depressed with this result.

Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

Nope its decent win for Figueroa there's no question regarding on his victory since we see how Magsayo ran out of gas and the minus points for Magsayo is very crucial which totally affect his points so I guess that's a bad fight for him. He better do more better because this is big lose for his career many thought he is the one who fight with Vargas but this will never happen as Figueroa won the match.

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There's nothing to be ashamed of, as Magsayo did his job in the ring to win. It's just that Figueroa was the better fighter there, and he won a unanimous victory. Magsayo also had some problems, as he was deducted points. It's not good for a struggling boxer to win and aggravate the problem more.

Magsayo should now focus on reflecting on what went wrong, instead of blaming the refs and judges. There's no time for excuses; it's two consecutive losses already, so it's not a great sign for him.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 05, 2023, 04:33:51 AM

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on March 05, 2023, 03:45:30 AM

I don't think he can get either a rematch with Vargas or Figueroa, it will all be the same results.

He needs to go back down again and try to rejuvenate his career, at least fight someone decent or cherry pick so that he will have this confidence back.

Actually Magsayo get defeated with the same way, where he was use a lot stamina in the early rounds and slowly get beaten in the late rounds. He still not able to find a way to beat a boxer with reach advantage, Magsayo shouldn't only looking to win via knock out since top boxers will have a tough chin.

It's really bad to see Magsayo have lost his last 2 fights, it will not easy for him to comeback since he might depressed with this result.

Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on March 05, 2023, 03:45:30 AM

I don't think he can get either a rematch with Vargas or Figueroa, it will all be the same results.

He needs to go back down again and try to rejuvenate his career, at least fight someone decent or cherry pick so that he will have this confidence back.

Actually Magsayo get defeated with the same way, where he was use a lot stamina in the early rounds and slowly get beaten in the late rounds. He still not able to find a way to beat a boxer with reach advantage, Magsayo shouldn't only looking to win via knock out since top boxers will have a tough chin.

It's really bad to see Magsayo have lost his last 2 fights, it will not easy for him to comeback since he might depressed with this result.

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Quote from: aioc on March 05, 2023, 03:13:48 AM

I thought that the fight was close although I have hinted that Figueroa will win eventually because of the point deduction and his aggressiveness in the Championship rounds, Magsayo cannot take Figueroa's body punches that is why he is holding a lot, he keeps on ducking to avoid those punishing punches.
Figueroa just proved that he has a very strong chin he received a lot of big punches in the chin but that doesn't stop him from pursuing Magsayo.
I wonder what's next for Magsayo two in a row is not good it's going to be a hard climb but he is still young he can opt to climb up weight but there are many great fighters in the upper weight category.

I agree, Figueroa has a very good chin, he was able to absorb the strong punch of Magsayo that's why he keep on coming forward despite being hit. And Brandon strategy is go to the body of Mark because they know that it will take a toll on him in later rounds.

I don't think he can get either a rematch with Vargas or Figueroa, it will all be the same results.

He needs to go back down again and try to rejuvenate his career, at least fight someone decent or cherry pick so that he will have this confidence back.

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I thought that the fight was close although I have hinted that Figueroa will win eventually because of the point deduction and his aggressiveness in the Championship rounds, Magsayo cannot take Figueroa's body punches that is why he is holding a lot, he keeps on ducking to avoid those punishing punches.
Figueroa just proved that he has a very strong chin he received a lot of big punches in the chin but that doesn't stop him from pursuing Magsayo.
I wonder what's next for Magsayo two in a row is not good it's going to be a hard climb but he is still young he can opt to climb up weight but there are many great fighters in the upper weight category.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 05, 2023, 02:20:34 AM

And that's it, he hasn't improved on his stamina and his power punches has no effect on Figueroa maybe in round 2 wherein Brandon move back a bit.

True. He got the power and speed but his stamina doesn't improve at all which supposed to be the one he should work on before this fight happened. It's somehow a close fight he had the chance if only he didn't often leaning forward to his opponent and not showed he's already exhausted.

Well, it's another loss for him, but Magsayo is still young and he can still develop and improve what he's lacking to win the fight. Anyhow congrats to Figueroa.

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I don't know what Magsayo from the start of the fight seems to be holding, and holding only one arm of Figueroa and allow him to be hit with the other hand. It could have been a good strategy if he stops both hand, but the funny thing is that he keeps just stopping that right hand and so it was really obvious from the referee's stand point and so he deducted a point. And that's it, he hasn't improved on his stamina and his power punches has no effect on Figueroa maybe in round 2 wherein Brandon move back a bit. But other than that, it was the same Magsayo, and it was a bad lost for him as this is 3 fights in a row now.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 05, 2023, 12:13:34 AM

The fight is exciting to watch even though there is too much holding and grappling Figueroa just eats up Magsayo's punch, Figuroa proves to be a volume puncher and this will have an impact in the latter rounds so far the fight is just about even but Magsayo needs to keep up those jabs and do counter punches.

Edit :Going to the 10th round I have Magsayo ahead by 1 point
Added : Figueroa shows its strongest form by doing a lot of volumes punching it's dead even going through the round 11th but Magsayo is exhausted.

The fight end and Figueroa is the unanimous winner of this match.

To bad for Magsayo he lose so bad on round 10, he's out of stamina plus he got score deducted due to violation. Better luck next time for him.

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Figueroa won via unanimous decision but I don't agree with the judge's scores it should have been close with Figueroa winning by 1 to 2 points both fighters gave everything in the last two rounds but the 2-points deduction made a huge impact on the judges' decision, so it will be Figueroa against Vargas for the Featherweight title

117 - 109 on two judges
118 - 108 on one judge

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The fight is exciting to watch even though there is too much holding and grappling Figueroa just eats up Magsayo's punch, Figuroa proves to be a volume puncher and this will have an impact in the latter rounds so far the fight is just about even but Magsayo needs to keep up those jabs and do counter punches.

Edit :Going to the 10th round I have Magsayo ahead by 1 point
Added : Figueroa shows its strongest form by doing a lot of volumes punching it's dead even going through the round 11th but Magsayo is exhausted.

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Round 3 now, I have Magsayo winning the last 2 rounds.

But I still very nervous when Brandon hitting him with counter in his body. But I love what Magsayo is doing, circling the ring and then stopping Brandon by hugging to stop the momentum.

Let's see, it's the start of the round 4. Brandon seems to be eating the power punches of Mark. Hopefully, he will not get tired.

Edit: 3-1 on my unofficial scorecard to Mark Magsayo
Edit 2: Magsayo deducted a point in round for excessive holding. (not good)
Edit 3: Magsayo again losses a point thru excessive holding 11th round, I think that causes him the fight here.

Edit 4: I have Brandon Figueroa winning here, championship rounds belong to him. Hope I'm wrong with my scoring.

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On the other side, Magsayo has been winning and fighting year to year. Absolutely no stopping him! Aside from his one recent loss, his track record is way better. Obviously he is going to win this fight with certainty.

He lost though so he is stop on his track, so both are coming from a lost, and so the winner will obviously bounce back with a big win here.

I would be happy if Magsayo wins this match. He is listed as the underdog, so for us bettors, this is a great opportunity to bet and make a decent return if Magsayo does indeed win.

Same here, I also like Magsayo to win this match. He badly need to win this fight so that he can have a chance to redeem himself by having a rematch against the champion Vargas.

Quote from: Russlenat on March 04, 2023, 09:51:25 AM

However, I would not say 'certainly' because Magsayo has not been that impressive in his previous fights, even in fights that he has won. Therefore, I want to see a major improvement, a matured Magsayo that knows how to time his opponent to win.

I believe Magsayo knows how critical this fight is, losing this fight means losing the chance for a title fight so I think Magsayo is doing the best he can to improve himself and adapt to the fighting style of his opponent. I hope the overweight issue won't affect the stamina of Magsayo that much.

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