[BOXING] George Kambosos vs Devin Haney - Undisputed Lightweight Title - June 5 - page 14.

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Quote from: yazher on April 19, 2022, 12:12:50 PM

Quote from: Maslate on April 19, 2022, 11:11:01 AM

If Kambasos has the power to KO Haney, he can.

Based on his record, he is only a 50% KO puncher, with 10 KO's only from 20 wins, while Haney has a 55.5% KO rate.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/646781

Kambasos may hurt Haney but could not KO him for sure.

In that case we gonna expect the fight to last long or to reach up to the officials decisions and it would be nice if one of them will dominate the others and somehow a way find to beat his opponent by knockout because that would be best thing to conclude the match and to win the fight.

There's a very high chance that this fight will go for 12 rounds rather than seeing a KO, I'm not saying that there's no chance for both boxers to have a KO win but both of them have almost the same record and capabilities. A 5.5% difference in KO history is not that much but as I said, a chance is a chance but it's really slim, IMO. We might see a consecutive exchanging of blows because both of them have a point to prove.

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Quote from: Baofeng on April 17, 2022, 07:17:50 PM

Check out the training videos of both fighters side by side and make your conclusion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMas9aiJxLs

Yeah for sure this is just sessions with their trainers, but you can clearly see who has more power in those videos and who has more finesse. So it will be a stylistic match-up and whoever dictates early will probably win the fight.

It is unlikely that someone who participates in competitive sports likes to show all the cards. Rather, on the contrary - maybe in this video one of the athletes deliberately behaves awkwardly in order to create the wrong impression about himself? I think that the one who excels in agility will dominate by the end of the fight (if he lives), usually such confrontations go exactly like this: if the advantage in strength is not realized in the early rounds, then it becomes less and less noticeable because the one who focuses on strength gets tired faster.

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Quote from: Maslate on April 19, 2022, 11:11:01 AM

If Kambasos has the power to KO Haney, he can.

Based on his record, he is only a 50% KO puncher, with 10 KO's only from 20 wins, while Haney has a 55.5% KO rate.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/646781

Kambasos may hurt Haney but could not KO him for sure.

In that case we gonna expect the fight to last long or to reach up to the officials decisions and it would be nice if one of them will dominate the others and somehow a way find to beat his opponent by knockout because that would be best thing to conclude the match and to win the fight.

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Haney is more tactical he seldom makes a mistake and a good counter puncher.

This is what Lopez doesn't have. If we still remember how Lopez fought when he lose against Kambasos, he was so aggressive that he forget to pay attention to his defense, the country punches of Kambasos went through although at some point he hurt Kambasos but it wasn't enough to KO him.

Haney by decision is probably the result.

But the thing is, if he just make one single mistake in this fight, an aggressive Kambosos might take advantage of it. An old Linares almost knock out Haney in their fight, it's that Linares is tired late in the round that's why he didn't make a follow-up. So if that is Kambosos, then maybe it will be a knock out win. Yes, he is a technical fighter, no question about it, but Kambosos might counter it with his pure aggressiveness just like in the Lopez fight.

If Kambasos has the power to KO Haney, he can.

Based on his record, he is only a 50% KO puncher, with 10 KO's only from 20 wins, while Haney has a 55.5% KO rate.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/646781

Kambasos may hurt Haney but could not KO him for sure.

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The whole industry and people around the world that is into boxing knows about that issue and that Manny Pacquiao was robbed on that fight against Horn, they couldn't just honestly forget that time and now that there's another big boxing fight that is going to take place in Australia, I bet lots and lots will want to watch that fight.

For that matter, I don't really think that they are planning again to rig the fight because they know that they are so hot right now and for me it is much better to stay that way so that they won't do such unfair things again. Both boxers is good and they should just trust their own boxer and support him instead of making their boxer embarrass.

Yes, social media will mock their fighter if he will win with questionable decisions. Instead of gaining the hypes, he might gain a lot of critics and knowing how social media can fun up with you. It will be better to win in a right way and nothing else. Maybe fans should give them that fair chance to prove their greatness. Even in the past there're issues regarding to that kind of act rigging the result.

We never know what will be the outcome or who will win the fight. It will be great to see a KO to have a clean win.

I bet they will if indeed their boxer (Kambosos) will win a questionable decision even if it's quite clear that Haney is the one supposed to win, but if he can knockout Haney then I think there's no issue about that at all or who can end the fight without getting the scores into the judge's hands. Nevertheless, I'm expecting that this would be a good fair fight and yes it would be really nice to some a KO.

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Quote from: Maslate on April 18, 2022, 07:51:46 AM

Quote from: robelneo on April 18, 2022, 07:39:31 AM

Haney is more tactical he seldom makes a mistake and a good counter puncher.

This is what Lopez doesn't have. If we still remember how Lopez fought when he lose against Kambasos, he was so aggressive that he forget to pay attention to his defense, the country punches of Kambasos went through although at some point he hurt Kambasos but it wasn't enough to KO him.

Haney by decision is probably the result.

But the thing is, if he just make one single mistake in this fight, an aggressive Kambosos might take advantage of it. An old Linares almost knock out Haney in their fight, it's that Linares is tired late in the round that's why he didn't make a follow-up. So if that is Kambosos, then maybe it will be a knock out win. Yes, he is a technical fighter, no question about it, but Kambosos might counter it with his pure aggressiveness just like in the Lopez fight.

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Quote from: Russlenat on April 18, 2022, 07:07:06 AM

The whole industry and people around the world that is into boxing knows about that issue and that Manny Pacquiao was robbed on that fight against Horn, they couldn't just honestly forget that time and now that there's another big boxing fight that is going to take place in Australia, I bet lots and lots will want to watch that fight.

For that matter, I don't really think that they are planning again to rig the fight because they know that they are so hot right now and for me it is much better to stay that way so that they won't do such unfair things again. Both boxers is good and they should just trust their own boxer and support him instead of making their boxer embarrass.

Yes, social media will mock their fighter if he will win with questionable decisions. Instead of gaining the hypes, he might gain a lot of critics and knowing how social media can fun up with you. It will be better to win in a right way and nothing else. Maybe fans should give them that fair chance to prove their greatness. Even in the past there're issues regarding to that kind of act rigging the result.

We never know what will be the outcome or who will win the fight. It will be great to see a KO to have a clean win.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 18, 2022, 07:39:31 AM

Haney is more tactical he seldom makes a mistake and a good counter puncher.

This is what Lopez doesn't have. If we still remember how Lopez fought when he lose against Kambasos, he was so aggressive that he forget to pay attention to his defense, the country punches of Kambasos went through although at some point he hurt Kambasos but it wasn't enough to KO him.

Haney by decision is probably the result.

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Quote from: Baofeng on April 17, 2022, 07:17:50 PM

Check out the training videos of both fighters side by side and make your conclusion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMas9aiJxLs

Yeah for sure this is just sessions with their trainers, but you can clearly see who has more power in those videos and who has more finesse. So it will be a stylistic match-up and whoever dictates early will probably win the fight.

Haney played great defense based on what I see.

Thanks for sharing the video by the way.

What I see is that Kambasos style is aggressive boxing, it will help him if it will pressure Haney and will lose his focus. Well, since he is fighting in his country, I'm sure he will be more inspire in this fight and will try to win.

The hometown decision is still a big concern although Kambosos is not a weak fighter and he will not agree with an unfair decision he has fought on Lopez's turf the last time so we expect the judges will go for what is fair in this fight even if the fight is close, Haney should go for a knock out if there's a chance or be totally dominating like all of his fights, Haney is more tactical he seldom makes a mistake and a good counter puncher.

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Quote from: Baofeng on April 17, 2022, 07:17:50 PM

Check out the training videos of both fighters side by side and make your conclusion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMas9aiJxLs

Yeah for sure this is just sessions with their trainers, but you can clearly see who has more power in those videos and who has more finesse. So it will be a stylistic match-up and whoever dictates early will probably win the fight.

Haney played great defense based on what I see.

Thanks for sharing the video by the way.

What I see is that Kambasos style is aggressive boxing, it will help him if it will pressure Haney and will lose his focus. Well, since he is fighting in his country, I'm sure he will be more inspire in this fight and will try to win.

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But in any case, a Haney victory will put in as the undisputed, but he has to deal with the more technical fighter in Loma to be call the best of this division. Even though he is the favorite, I think Kambosos has a good chance to win this fight.

It's a technical fighter against a technical fighter, it's a bad idea for Haney to go for a decision he must stop Kambosos he is in the hostile territory we all know how bad Australian officiating is, if he wins by decision it should be total domination Haney should not underestimate the hometown decision, this is a hard task for Haney but let's see if judges will be fair this time after what happened to Pacquiao there.

Haney's father knows that, and so it's a big task ahead of them. But seeing the odds and they are the favorite? obviously, something is going to come up, maybe Haney's technical skills will be hard for Kambosos style. I'm not seeing a Haney knock out victory, it will be on a decision, but then again, can the judge be fair against the American in their home soil?

Seeing Haney as the favorite in the betting lines is a no-brainer, he was the better fighter IMO and he is an American so he has a lot of fans that would bet on him in the fight. I like the fact that this fight will be held at Kambosos country, this should make Haney work harder in order to achieve a very convincing win.

The Pacquiao - horn still haunts the boxing community glad that Crawford end his reign and put Horn in the right place he doesn't belong in the elite but this fight is very different Kambosos deserves his title I hope the boxing organizations and Australia's boxing organizations will correct what happens in the Pacquiao - Horn fight and let the deserves fighter to win the match if ever the match go the distance, whether its Kambosos or Haney the world deserves a real winner in this fight.

The whole industry and people around the world that is into boxing knows about that issue and that Manny Pacquiao was robbed on that fight against Horn, they couldn't just honestly forget that time and now that there's another big boxing fight that is going to take place in Australia, I bet lots and lots will want to watch that fight.

For that matter, I don't really think that they are planning again to rig the fight because they know that they are so hot right now and for me it is much better to stay that way so that they won't do such unfair things again. Both boxers is good and they should just trust their own boxer and support him instead of making their boxer embarrass.

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Check out the training videos of both fighters side by side and make your conclusion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMas9aiJxLs

Yeah for sure this is just sessions with their trainers, but you can clearly see who has more power in those videos and who has more finesse. So it will be a stylistic match-up and whoever dictates early will probably win the fight.

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But in any case, a Haney victory will put in as the undisputed, but he has to deal with the more technical fighter in Loma to be call the best of this division. Even though he is the favorite, I think Kambosos has a good chance to win this fight.

It's a technical fighter against a technical fighter, it's a bad idea for Haney to go for a decision he must stop Kambosos he is in the hostile territory we all know how bad Australian officiating is, if he wins by decision it should be total domination Haney should not underestimate the hometown decision, this is a hard task for Haney but let's see if judges will be fair this time after what happened to Pacquiao there.

Haney's father knows that, and so it's a big task ahead of them. But seeing the odds and they are the favorite? obviously, something is going to come up, maybe Haney's technical skills will be hard for Kambosos style. I'm not seeing a Haney knock out victory, it will be on a decision, but then again, can the judge be fair against the American in their home soil?

Seeing Haney as the favorite in the betting lines is a no-brainer, he was the better fighter IMO and he is an American so he has a lot of fans that would bet on him in the fight. I like the fact that this fight will be held at Kambosos country, this should make Haney work harder in order to achieve a very convincing win.

The Pacquiao - horn still haunts the boxing community glad that Crawford end his reign and put Horn in the right place he doesn't belong in the elite but this fight is very different Kambosos deserves his title I hope the boxing organizations and Australia's boxing organizations will correct what happens in the Pacquiao - Horn fight and let the deserves fighter to win the match if ever the match go the distance, whether its Kambosos or Haney the world deserves a real winner in this fight.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 16, 2022, 01:08:08 PM

But in any case, a Haney victory will put in as the undisputed, but he has to deal with the more technical fighter in Loma to be call the best of this division. Even though he is the favorite, I think Kambosos has a good chance to win this fight.

It's a technical fighter against a technical fighter, it's a bad idea for Haney to go for a decision he must stop Kambosos he is in the hostile territory we all know how bad Australian officiating is, if he wins by decision it should be total domination Haney should not underestimate the hometown decision, this is a hard task for Haney but let's see if judges will be fair this time after what happened to Pacquiao there.

Haney's father knows that, and so it's a big task ahead of them. But seeing the odds and they are the favorite? obviously, something is going to come up, maybe Haney's technical skills will be hard for Kambosos style. I'm not seeing a Haney knock out victory, it will be on a decision, but then again, can the judge be fair against the American in their home soil?

Seeing Haney as the favorite in the betting lines is a no-brainer, he was the better fighter IMO and he is an American so he has a lot of fans that would bet on him in the fight. I like the fact that this fight will be held at Kambosos country, this should make Haney work harder in order to achieve a very convincing win.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 16, 2022, 01:08:08 PM

But in any case, a Haney victory will put in as the undisputed, but he has to deal with the more technical fighter in Loma to be call the best of this division. Even though he is the favorite, I think Kambosos has a good chance to win this fight.

It's a technical fighter against a technical fighter, it's a bad idea for Haney to go for a decision he must stop Kambosos he is in the hostile territory we all know how bad Australian officiating is, if he wins by decision it should be total domination Haney should not underestimate the hometown decision, this is a hard task for Haney but let's see if judges will be fair this time after what happened to Pacquiao there.

Haney's father knows that, and so it's a big task ahead of them. But seeing the odds and they are the favorite? obviously, something is going to come up, maybe Haney's technical skills will be hard for Kambosos style. I'm not seeing a Haney knock out victory, it will be on a decision, but then again, can the judge be fair against the American in their home soil?

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 16, 2022, 01:08:08 PM

But in any case, a Haney victory will put in as the undisputed, but he has to deal with the more technical fighter in Loma to be call the best of this division. Even though he is the favorite, I think Kambosos has a good chance to win this fight.

It's a technical fighter against a technical fighter, it's a bad idea for Haney to go for a decision he must stop Kambosos he is in the hostile territory we all know how bad Australian officiating is, if he wins by decision it should be total domination Haney should not underestimate the hometown decision, this is a hard task for Haney but let's see if judges will be fair this time after what happened to Pacquiao there.

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Quote from: stadus on April 16, 2022, 11:28:50 AM

In this fight, one of them will have a stain in their record after the match because a draw in this fight is so unlikely to happen. No doubt that Kambosos Jr. is a good decent boxer but Haney is more experienced and as per KO history, the latter have the advantage as well as the reach and technical capabilities. As said, this will be a tough one to see and will be a tight match because none of them is willing to take that stain in their record.

If Haney wins the fight he doesn't have to chase Ryan Garcia anymore he has all the belts while Garcia does not have a single one only a title internet superstar which is not a legit status in the world of boxing.

I remember years back Haney is chasing Garcia to fight him but his promotions don't like it if Haney wins the table is now turned Garcia will have no choice but to come to Haney.

Not sure if Garcia is still interested though, he fought Tagoe at a catchweight not the limit of 135 lbs, maybe he will go up in his next fight and obviously he can't make the 135 lbs division.

But in any case, a Haney victory will put in as the undisputed, but he has to deal with the more technical fighter in Loma to be call the best of this division. Even though he is the favorite, I think Kambosos has a good chance to win this fight.

I don't know why Garcia's camp is chasing and looking forward to have a fight against Kambosos Jr instead of Devin Haney as the latter is already interested at Garcia. It would make the fight more interesting if indeed they will clash, that's my opinion though. Back at the fight, Kambosos have the chance but that wouldn't suffice to take down Devin Haney and his capabilities in the boxing. This fight might go long and may result to a unanimous decision but I'm with Haney on this fight.

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Quote from: Saisher on April 16, 2022, 11:35:19 AM

Quote from: stadus on April 16, 2022, 11:28:50 AM

In this fight, one of them will have a stain in their record after the match because a draw in this fight is so unlikely to happen. No doubt that Kambosos Jr. is a good decent boxer but Haney is more experienced and as per KO history, the latter have the advantage as well as the reach and technical capabilities. As said, this will be a tough one to see and will be a tight match because none of them is willing to take that stain in their record.

If Haney wins the fight he doesn't have to chase Ryan Garcia anymore he has all the belts while Garcia does not have a single one only a title internet superstar which is not a legit status in the world of boxing.

I remember years back Haney is chasing Garcia to fight him but his promotions don't like it if Haney wins the table is now turned Garcia will have no choice but to come to Haney.

Not sure if Garcia is still interested though, he fought Tagoe at a catchweight not the limit of 135 lbs, maybe he will go up in his next fight and obviously he can't make the 135 lbs division.

But in any case, a Haney victory will put in as the undisputed, but he has to deal with the more technical fighter in Loma to be call the best of this division. Even though he is the favorite, I think Kambosos has a good chance to win this fight.

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Quote from: stadus on April 16, 2022, 11:28:50 AM

In this fight, one of them will have a stain in their record after the match because a draw in this fight is so unlikely to happen. No doubt that Kambosos Jr. is a good decent boxer but Haney is more experienced and as per KO history, the latter have the advantage as well as the reach and technical capabilities. As said, this will be a tough one to see and will be a tight match because none of them is willing to take that stain in their record.

If Haney wins the fight he doesn't have to chase Ryan Garcia anymore he has all the belts while Garcia does not have a single one only a title internet superstar which is not a legit status in the world of boxing.

I remember years back Haney is chasing Garcia to fight him but his promotions don't like it if Haney wins the table is now turned Garcia will have no choice but to come to Haney.

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I don't know how it becomes obvious, Haney has never been underestimated in any of his fights he always comes out fresh and dominant, sure he is fighting a guy who beats the man, but that's a different scene back then, Lopez is underestimating Kambosos, it's unlikely that Haney is going to do that to Kambosos, he will come prepared and will do what he does best, I expect Haney to win by decision.

It will be a good fight no doubt about that since those two can surprise each other by actually showcasing their boxing skills in the ring. This will be the most exciting fight this year in that weight division because both are strong and champions especially since these guys haven't been lost in their professional careers as a boxer.

No doubt this will be another highly interesting fight as this fight is for the undisputed lightweight championship as both have known to be champions in the boxing arena. However, this fight will bring more advantage for Haney but for Kambosos, he already become the undisputed champion when he won against the fight with Lopez.

In this fight, one of them will have a stain in their record after the match because a draw in this fight is so unlikely to happen. No doubt that Kambosos Jr. is a good decent boxer but Haney is more experienced and as per KO history, the latter have the advantage as well as the reach and technical capabilities. As said, this will be a tough one to see and will be a tight match because none of them is willing to take that stain in their record.

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