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Topic: [BOXING] George Kambosos vs Devin Haney - Undisputed Lightweight Title - June 5 - page 4. (Read 3050 times)

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“The art of war, baby. Deception,” Kambosos insisted after moving forward with the first defense of his lightweight championship. “Let them believe this was done. Everything is a process. Art of war, deception. I did it on purpose.”

Do you agree though that he did it on purpose?

Of course not. What kind of fool would do that on purpose? It was really a failure. But it was good that they were able to make the required weight the second time around. Art of war? Deception? No, baby, it wasn't art of war. Art of war is not telling your enemies your plan, not proclaiming it. It's not deception either. It is not deception if you're saying it is deception. And why would you be exerting effort on this? The war hasn't even begun yet.
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Update: George Kambosos make the weight in the 2nd attempt.

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The swagger was justified, as Kambosos (20-0, 10KOs) clocked in at 134.49 pounds—well under the lightweight limit and within the prescribed two-hour period to make weight. The unbeaten Aussie weighed 135.36 pounds on the first try, though chalked it up to psychological warfare.

https://www.boxingscene.com/george-kambosos-jr-13449-makes-weight-on-second-attempt-undisputed-clash-with-devin-haney--166714

So he weight at 134.49 lbs, however, the twist is that George admitted that he done it in purpose to throw Haney to believed that he is not going to make it.

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“The art of war, baby. Deception,” Kambosos insisted after moving forward with the first defense of his lightweight championship. “Let them believe this was done. Everything is a process. Art of war, deception. I did it on purpose.”

Do you agree though that he did it on purpose?

The real art of war is inside the ring not outside of it, if he did it on purpose its useless Haney is very much into it, he has faced a lot of adversaries in the past, this is a cheap trick, finally, the boxers are both heated up heading into the fight Haney will be motivated now that his father is at his side, its just fair that they let him get into Australia, so to avoid accusations that they are lenient on their champion.
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@Dave1. No hehehe. He very much certainly did not do that on purpose. However, I disagree with @Kemarit. Kambosos did not appear to have a difficult time in removing the excess weight. It might be only another 1 hour of Kambosos sitting in the sauna bath.
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Update: George Kambosos make the weight in the 2nd attempt.

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The swagger was justified, as Kambosos (20-0, 10KOs) clocked in at 134.49 pounds—well under the lightweight limit and within the prescribed two-hour period to make weight. The unbeaten Aussie weighed 135.36 pounds on the first try, though chalked it up to psychological warfare.

https://www.boxingscene.com/george-kambosos-jr-13449-makes-weight-on-second-attempt-undisputed-clash-with-devin-haney--166714

So he weight at 134.49 lbs, however, the twist is that George admitted that he done it in purpose to throw Haney to believed that he is not going to make it.

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“The art of war, baby. Deception,” Kambosos insisted after moving forward with the first defense of his lightweight championship. “Let them believe this was done. Everything is a process. Art of war, deception. I did it on purpose.”

Do you agree though that he did it on purpose?
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News update.

George Kambosos did not make the weight by .36 pounds. I am not certain what time was the weigh-in, however, Kambosos will be given only 2 hours to make the weight. Also, good news for Devin Haney bettors hehe. His father was given a last minute visa to enter Australia to be with his son during the fight.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KpCFxOxoKxM

The confidence of Haney will certainly pump and Kambosos' confidence might dump hehehe. I will not change my pick, however.

Thanks mate, wow, So Kambosos didn't make the weight in his own country? however, .36 lbs I think he can shred it in just under 2 hours and make the contractual weight in this fight.

I guess the Victorian government wanted to make the fight 'fair' by having Haney's father on his side during this fight. And it's good that Haney's promotion (not sure if it is Eddie Hearn's matchroom), because for sure they have help the case of his father to get a visa ASAP.

Yeah, but Kambosos is really going to be dry and his body needs to re hydrate more in the next 24 hours. Perhaps it was an overlook on his team or maybe the scale has problems too we don't know. Because Haney is under the weight while George went over by just a hair.

Anyhow, the fight is tomorrow already, and if ever he makes weight then all the trask talk and bad mouthing is done and we can see who is the better of the two.
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News update.

George Kambosos did not make the weight by .36 pounds. I am not certain what time was the weigh-in, however, Kambosos will be given only 2 hours to make the weight. Also, good news for Devin Haney bettors hehe. His father was given a last minute visa to enter Australia to be with his son during the fight.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KpCFxOxoKxM

The confidence of Haney will certainly pump and Kambosos' confidence might dump hehehe. I will not change my pick, however.

Thanks mate, wow, So Kambosos didn't make the weight in his own country? however, .36 lbs I think he can shred it in just under 2 hours and make the contractual weight in this fight.

I guess the Victorian government wanted to make the fight 'fair' by having Haney's father on his side during this fight. And it's good that Haney's promotion (not sure if it is Eddie Hearn's matchroom), because for sure they have help the case of his father to get a visa ASAP.
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News update.

George Kambosos did not make the weight by .36 pounds. I am not certain what time was the weigh-in, however, Kambosos will be given only 2 hours to make the weight. Also, good news for Devin Haney bettors hehe. His father was given a last minute visa to enter Australia to be with his son during the fight.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KpCFxOxoKxM

The confidence of Haney will certainly pump and Kambosos' confidence might dump hehehe. I will not change my pick, however.
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^^ Or who has the better skills to adjust as the round progresses. If Haney frustrates Kambosos, then what he will do after? or if Kambosos is hitting Haney at will, how will Haney cover to avoid getting a knock out?

So this is really a good match in paper, Haney might have a slight advantage in height, but it doesn't matter, I think it's negligible. So we will find out tomorrow, who will adjust more and has better strategy.
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Yeah but maybe bookies forget that the fight will be in Australia hometown of Kambosos?

That should be a factor already but Haney has proven his worth in the ring he is the new version of Mayweather, not a very exciting fighter but always takes home the win.


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And I also do agree that he is a good underdog in this fight, although he doesn't have the experience, but he shows heart and resiliency when he defeats Teo Lopez.
It's Teo Lopez's mistake he has no plan and is uncontrollable he is fighting with emotions

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So maybe he will show more here specially that he will be fighting in front of his fans. I don't think it will be boring, Kambosos is going to be the aggressor and will test Devin's chin if it can hold up against his power punches.

I have seen him in so many of his fights and he is always the aggressor, the flow of the fight is very much expected, Kambosos is the aggressor and Haney will be countering a lot, it will be interesting who will have a better fight plan.
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Kambasos at 3.25, that's a good steal.

The fact that he is playing in front of the home crowd, we can expect that he will fight harder as he is more motivated to win. With this kind of odds, it seemed like bookies does not see Kambasos as a champion who has a good chance of beating Haney.

The words are underrated and underestimated.

That is why it's good to bet for Kambosos this time because his chance of winning is high and the odds are so tempting/attractive at least for me.

Bookies may have placed Kambosos as the underdog because he only fought once for the championship for that mandatory fight and they think that he still lacks the experience to defend those belts he has right now.

I hope that this fight won't be boring because the two are more of a counter-punchers thus I expect this to go the distance.

Yeah but maybe bookies forget that the fight will be in Australia hometown of Kambosos?

And I also do agree that he is a good underdog in this fight, although he doesn't have the experience, but he shows heart and resiliency when he defeats Teo Lopez.

So maybe he will show more here specially that he will be fighting in front of his fans. I don't think it will be boring, Kambosos is going to be the aggressor and will test Devin's chin if it can hold up against his power punches.
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Kambasos at 3.25, that's a good steal.

The fact that he is playing in front of the home crowd, we can expect that he will fight harder as he is more motivated to win. With this kind of odds, it seemed like bookies does not see Kambasos as a champion who has a good chance of beating Haney.

The words are underrated and underestimated.

That is why it's good to bet for Kambosos this time because his chance of winning is high and the odds are so tempting/attractive at least for me.

Bookies may have placed Kambosos as the underdog because he only fought once for the championship for that mandatory fight and they think that he still lacks the experience to defend those belts he has right now.

I hope that this fight won't be boring because the two are more of a counter-punchers thus I expect this to go the distance.
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I assume that Devin will just be an instrument to give some challenges to the champion and push him into his limits, in that way, Kambosos will be explode just like what he did to Lopez in the first round.
I don't think it's like that, I will not look at the Odds at this time but I will look to the other side, even though Kambosos is now highly motivated but don't forget Haney is also risking his WBC belt and of course this will be a fight because it is both This boxer has something at stake.
But Haney's record of 27 wins with 15 KOs is certainly not something that can be considered an Instrument now.

I don't think that Kambosos can get Haney the way he knock down Lopez in round 1. Lopez is careless in that fight and thinks he can just bulldozed his way. Haney is a thinking fighter and a technical one, yes, he has questionable chin and that's what makes him a defensive fighter because he can't just brawl as he can easily get knock out. Maybe his strategy is to frustrate Kambosos in this fight, maybe a few hugs here and there in the first couple of rounds to test George patience.
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Odds at the moment if this fight goes the distance:

Haney 1.88  Kambosos 3.25
I haven't bet on a decision because Kambosos knockout record is underrated. His last three opponents were all former world champions and he knocked downed two of them. And I saw the e-mail champ getting hurt several times. Kambosos might stop this kid.   



You should bet now, Kambasos is really underrated, and the fact that he is still undefeated now, that says a lot that he is really a good boxer. Haney is just favored because of his great boxing talent, but a knockout artist for me is fun to watch compared to a technical boxer that sometimes would only be boring.

Kambasos at 3.25, that's a good steal.

The fact that he is playing in front of the home crowd, we can expect that he will fight harder as he is more motivated to win. With this kind of odds, it seemed like bookies does not see Kambasos as a champion who has a good chance of beating Haney.

The words are underrated and underestimated.

I am more excited about this fight than all the other fights that started this year including the Romero - Davis fight, I know that Haney is good but I haven't seen him challenged this way against an undefeated fighter who beat the man who beat the man and on his opponent's territory if he can beat Kambosos decisively and unanimously he will be considered as the best than all the other lightweight in this area, better than Davis, or Garcia.

The Romero-Davis fight wasn't that interesting to me too, we know the latter cherry-picked the fight, and Romero accepted the fight because Mayweather wants to defeat Davis as this is his last fight before he leaves under Mayweather's promotion. We already knew what would happen because Romero is really too early facing the Tank.

As for this fight, these two boxers are good and they have the same chance of winning. The thing that got me interested is because they have unique abilities.

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I assume that Devin will just be an instrument to give some challenges to the champion and push him into his limits, in that way, Kambosos will be explode just like what he did to Lopez in the first round.
I don't think it's like that, I will not look at the Odds at this time but I will look to the other side, even though Kambosos is now highly motivated but don't forget Haney is also risking his WBC belt and of course this will be a fight because it is both This boxer has something at stake.
But Haney's record of 27 wins with 15 KOs is certainly not something that can be considered an Instrument now.
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Odds at the moment if this fight goes the distance:

Haney 1.88  Kambosos 3.25
I haven't bet on a decision because Kambosos knockout record is underrated. His last three opponents were all former world champions and he knocked downed two of them. And I saw the e-mail champ getting hurt several times. Kambosos might stop this kid.   



You should bet now, Kambasos is really underrated, and the fact that he is still undefeated now, that says a lot that he is really a good boxer. Haney is just favored because of his great boxing talent, but a knockout artist for me is fun to watch compared to a technical boxer that sometimes would only be boring.

If you believe so that Kambosos will be the hailed winner in this fight then you should also bet. The odds are just too tempting to see mate and that's is also why I chose to bet in Kambosos favor. In-fact, this is good because Kambosos is the underdog here even if he is the champion, I reckon he should be called as the champion of the underdogs lol.

I assume that Devin will just be an instrument to give some challenges to the champion and push him into his limits, in that way, Kambosos will be explode just like what he did to Lopez in the first round.
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It also seems to me that betting on Kambosos is a good option, since he is formally an underdog and the odds for him are very attractive - 2.6. And the result of this fight is far from obvious, for example, Pacquiao believes that Cambasos will be the winner. In the fight with Lopez, Cambasos was also an underdog, but he won one way or another, I think in the fight with Haney he will try to be the first number and fight from the very beginning. It is believed that Haney is less dangerous in terms of knockout, so he can afford such activity from the very beginning.
Maybe this is good enough but if you look at it from another angle, I still feel that Haney is currently able to overcome Kambosos.
Regardless, Kambosos has been talking too much lately, it seems, and this clearly indicates that he is still anticipating Haney's move and still doesn't know what method to use against Haney in the future.

Of course he has a chance, the result of the fight is not predetermined and both fighters can win. But if we assume that they have approximately equal chances (which, in my opinion, is justified), then it is obvious that it is better to bet on an underdog, since a bet on Haney will bring you only 59% profit, while a bet on Kambosos can bring 132% ( yes, I see that the chances have changed and the odds for Kambosos have been lowered).
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I definitely agree about that! IQ is important whether they are inside or outside the ring, instead it's more helpful and needed outside the ring because that's the most times where they decide whether it's time for a fight or if it's futile to go for it. Having the ability to be patient and balance things is a must have, Romero and Lopez surely don't have those qualities. They are just looking at the picture where they need to defeat heavy opponents without seeing the whole picture that it's too soon for them.
Lopez was a champion before he fought with Kambosos, he's risking all of his belts for nothing. I believe he suppose Kambosos is easy boxer for him, though I'm not sure either Lopez cherry pick Kambosos, or Kambosos want to challenge Lopez at that time. I think Lopez is a good boxer, but he didn't expect Kambosos will beat him as we can see he fallen on the first round.

Yea, I remember that fight. That was too embarrassing on Lopez's side because the fight was held at his hometown yet the underdog Kambosos beat him good and managed to pin him down on the first round and eventually the latter won the match by a split decision. I don't have a doubt about Lopez because he was and is still so good, it's just that he committed few mistakes on the first round by coming so hot and aggressive but when he tasted a good left hook from the challenger, he slowed down. He can still get a revenge on that fight because he is still young and I believe he can upset the new lightweight champ.
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Odds at the moment if this fight goes the distance:

Haney 1.88  Kambosos 3.25
I haven't bet on a decision because Kambosos knockout record is underrated. His last three opponents were all former world champions and he knocked downed two of them. And I saw the e-mail champ getting hurt several times. Kambosos might stop this kid.   



You should bet now, Kambasos is really underrated, and the fact that he is still undefeated now, that says a lot that he is really a good boxer. Haney is just favored because of his great boxing talent, but a knockout artist for me is fun to watch compared to a technical boxer that sometimes would only be boring.

Kambasos at 3.25, that's a good steal.

The fact that he is playing in front of the home crowd, we can expect that he will fight harder as he is more motivated to win. With this kind of odds, it seemed like bookies does not see Kambasos as a champion who has a good chance of beating Haney.

The words are underrated and underestimated.

I am more excited about this fight than all the other fights that started this year including the Romero - Davis fight, I know that Haney is good but I haven't seen him challenged this way against an undefeated fighter who beat the man who beat the man and on his opponent's territory if he can beat Kambosos decisively and unanimously he will be considered as the best than all the other lightweight in this area, better than Davis, or Garcia.
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Odds at the moment if this fight goes the distance:

Haney 1.88  Kambosos 3.25
I haven't bet on a decision because Kambosos knockout record is underrated. His last three opponents were all former world champions and he knocked downed two of them. And I saw the e-mail champ getting hurt several times. Kambosos might stop this kid.   



You should bet now, Kambasos is really underrated, and the fact that he is still undefeated now, that says a lot that he is really a good boxer. Haney is just favored because of his great boxing talent, but a knockout artist for me is fun to watch compared to a technical boxer that sometimes would only be boring.

Kambasos at 3.25, that's a good steal.

The fact that he is playing in front of the home crowd, we can expect that he will fight harder as he is more motivated to win. With this kind of odds, it seemed like bookies does not see Kambasos as a champion who has a good chance of beating Haney.

The words are underrated and underestimated.
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Odds at the moment if this fight goes the distance:

Haney 1.88  Kambosos 3.25
I haven't bet on a decision because Kambosos knockout record is underrated. His last three opponents were all former world champions and he knocked downed two of them. And I saw the e-mail champ getting hurt several times. Kambosos might stop this kid.   

You should bet now, Kambasos is really underrated, and the fact that he is still undefeated now, that says a lot that he is really a good boxer. Haney is just favored because of his great boxing talent, but a knockout artist for me is fun to watch compared to a technical boxer that sometimes would only be boring.
I already bet twice on Kambosos to win mate.

Few more days before fight night. Unified champion George Kambosos is pumped and ready. It is time to test the WBC e-mail champ, Devin Haney. We will see if the young e-mail champion has what it takes to become undisputed. Despite defending his championship belts the first time, I still believe that Kambosos is more tested and more experienced in world level. While Haney was in the US defending his belt, George was travelling around the globe and fought opponents in their own backyards. George will take this kid somewhere he's never been, in deep waters.     
Nice optimism mate, but the bookies tell otherwise Cheesy
However I'm also on Kambosos side, surely he will be motivated when he was beat Lopez and won't being or underestimate his opponent.
Fv*k the bookies mate. Cheesy So far i'm still undefeated on my underdog betting picks this year.
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Devin Haney didn't beat someone to take the WBC belt. He became the WBC champion thru e-mail. Baby Haney was babysit his whole professional career. He cannot swim in deep waters. And no dad on his side either to calm him down in times of trouble. I give him the respect by coming to Australia though but he is fighting the wrong guy.
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