[Boxing] Inoue vs Casimero Bantamweight Unification Fight - page 18.

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Quote from: South Park on August 21, 2021, 04:43:46 PM

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Although there are few participants on the poll I'm surprised that many supports Casimero than Inoue, Casimero is very brazen and arrogant while Inoue has the making of legendary boxer, very strong, fast accurate I don't know why Casimero is getting a lot of supports compared to Inoue, it's still unclear if these fighters will meet this year, we still have to read the official announcement and signing of the contract, if there is none then it's all speculation.

Maybe they actually believe he is the best fighter out of the two, or maybe what is happening is that they are letting this attitude to become some sort of showmanship and that is why they are picking him up, after all we know that this is part of the business and fighters love to display their arrogance to show some level of superiority over their opponents, however I agree with you and I think Inoue is the best fighter out of the two but we have to wait and see if they are actually going to fight this year.

Inoue has a good ranking in the pound for pound list and obviously based on his record, he is the best compared to Donaire and Casimero, however, being the best, he should prove to the world by beating the one who is claiming that he is better than the best.

Casimero said Inoue is a Japanese Turtle, MF, and afraid of him.. the Champ should respond the right way, and that is by accepting the challenge.

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Although there are few participants on the poll I'm surprised that many supports Casimero than Inoue, Casimero is very brazen and arrogant while Inoue has the making of legendary boxer, very strong, fast accurate I don't know why Casimero is getting a lot of supports compared to Inoue, it's still unclear if these fighters will meet this year, we still have to read the official announcement and signing of the contract, if there is none then it's all speculation.

Maybe they actually believe he is the best fighter out of the two, or maybe what is happening is that they are letting this attitude to become some sort of showmanship and that is why they are picking him up, after all we know that this is part of the business and fighters love to display their arrogance to show some level of superiority over their opponents, however I agree with you and I think Inoue is the best fighter out of the two but we have to wait and see if they are actually going to fight this year.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 21, 2021, 12:28:09 PM

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Although there are few participants on the poll I'm surprised that many supports Casimero than Inoue, Casimero is very brazen and arrogant while Inoue has the making of legendary boxer, very strong, fast accurate I don't know why Casimero is getting a lot of supports compared to Inoue, it's still unclear if these fighters will meet this year, we still have to read the official announcement and signing of the contract, if there is none then it's all speculation.

I'm sure you know the answer kabayan, hehehe. It's because most of the posters here are Filipinos and mostly pro-Casimero.

Even in the Pacquiao vs Ugas weight-in, he attracted a lot of fans even as others saying that he has a bad performance against Rigo. Yes, this is all speculation as of now, but either way, it will be likely Inoue, and 2 others Filipinos will likely remain to be the dominant fighter in this bantamweight division.

The last fight of Casimero is probably the last fight that he will face a fast-running boxer, lol... The performance of Casimero in his last fight is bad because for an obvious reason if they saw the fight, they will know how the fans reacted, we can hear the boos of the fans because they hate what Rigo was doing.

If only Rigo fought the way he fought Donaire that he won via UD, I think that fight would be a very entertaining one.

Rigo is never tired of running, and it would be unfair for the defending champion to lose just because of that, the challenger should be the aggressor.

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Although there are few participants on the poll I'm surprised that many supports Casimero than Inoue, Casimero is very brazen and arrogant while Inoue has the making of legendary boxer, very strong, fast accurate I don't know why Casimero is getting a lot of supports compared to Inoue, it's still unclear if these fighters will meet this year, we still have to read the official announcement and signing of the contract, if there is none then it's all speculation.

I'm sure you know the answer kabayan, hehehe. It's because most of the posters here are Filipinos and mostly pro-Casimero.

Even in the Pacquiao vs Ugas weight-in, he attracted a lot of fans even as others saying that he has a bad performance against Rigo. Yes, this is all speculation as of now, but either way, it will be likely Inoue, and 2 others Filipinos will likely remain to be the dominant fighter in this bantamweight division.

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It will not matter how many times Casimero will show his middle finger because he did not have a good performance in his latest win. Nonito Donaire however, he shocked everyone in his latest win. I reckon that is a very good argument on why Nonito should be next.

Also, I read some replies that Inoue should be careful vs. Casimero hehe. How can you say this after his performance vs. Rigondoeux. Casimero showed poor boxing skills and was made into a chasing clown.

"Styles makes a fight", I'm not depending Casimero but though he looks bad on that fight against Rigo, he was doing a better job if we compare Donaire against Rigo six years ago if I'm not mistaken. If you put Inoue in front of Casimero then expect fireworks as both boxers would love to slug it out.

Casimero will not stop taunting Inoue until the latter have signed the contract because this could be the biggest purse of his colorful career.

That's absolutely right, there's no other boxer that could give him a good purse than Inoue, so he will talk shit anytime he wants so the monster will feel disrespected and will trigger to arrange a fight, and he did just the right thing because his strategy was effective, however, confirmation is necessary before we celebrate and that is the contract signing.

agree with that as well. casimero does want a fight that will really show their strength by pounding each other. you'll see it is his previous fights which is also what inoue wants. naturally, casimero has to chase when his opponent runs if it's their strategy just as rigo did. rigo successfully evade knockout which he could say a victory in that part. but i think there could be a knockout if they both just frenzied.

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if Inoue-Casimero will happen first, we will see how far is Casimero's power here. Seems that it may possibly happen before the end of this year.

Inoue has had enough of Casimero of accusing him of dusking him, so he asks that the fight be arraign, Inoue supposed to fight Donaire but hopefully, Donaire will give way for the Inoue - Casimero to happen, the excitement for this fight to happen is very high, this is the right time for the fight to happen because emotion is very high on both fighters.

Whoever Inoue fights on, it will still be a legendary/memorable fight since these 3 will be legends to be honest. I think Donaire may want to fight Inoue as well but let's wait for official announcement because whoever Inoue fights on it will be exciting. I think it will take months before a deal will be closed but I'm rooting for Casimero for this, he's the taunted one.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 21, 2021, 08:01:28 AM

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It will not matter how many times Casimero will show his middle finger because he did not have a good performance in his latest win. Nonito Donaire however, he shocked everyone in his latest win. I reckon that is a very good argument on why Nonito should be next.

Also, I read some replies that Inoue should be careful vs. Casimero hehe. How can you say this after his performance vs. Rigondoeux. Casimero showed poor boxing skills and was made into a chasing clown.

"Styles makes a fight", I'm not depending Casimero but though he looks bad on that fight against Rigo, he was doing a better job if we compare Donaire against Rigo six years ago if I'm not mistaken. If you put Inoue in front of Casimero then expect fireworks as both boxers would love to slug it out.

Casimero will not stop taunting Inoue until the latter have signed the contract because this could be the biggest purse of his colorful career.

That's absolutely right, there's no other boxer that could give him a good purse than Inoue, so he will talk shit anytime he wants so the monster will feel disrespected and will trigger to arrange a fight, and he did just the right thing because his strategy was effective, however, confirmation is necessary before we celebrate and that is the contract signing.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 21, 2021, 12:16:20 AM

It will not matter how many times Casimero will show his middle finger because he did not have a good performance in his latest win. Nonito Donaire however, he shocked everyone in his latest win. I reckon that is a very good argument on why Nonito should be next.

Also, I read some replies that Inoue should be careful vs. Casimero hehe. How can you say this after his performance vs. Rigondoeux. Casimero showed poor boxing skills and was made into a chasing clown.

"Styles makes a fight", I'm not depending Casimero but though he looks bad on that fight against Rigo, he was doing a better job if we compare Donaire against Rigo six years ago if I'm not mistaken. If you put Inoue in front of Casimero then expect fireworks as both boxers would love to slug it out.

Casimero will not stop taunting Inoue until the latter have signed the contract because this could be the biggest purse of his colorful career.

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Quote from: smyslov on August 21, 2021, 07:03:29 AM

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if Inoue-Casimero will happen first, we will see how far is Casimero's power here. Seems that it may possibly happen before the end of this year.

Inoue has had enough of Casimero of accusing him of dusking him, so he asks that the fight be arraign, Inoue supposed to fight Donaire but hopefully, Donaire will give way for the Inoue - Casimero to happen, the excitement for this fight to happen is very high, this is the right time for the fight to happen because emotion is very high on both fighters.

Inoue can choose who he would fight as long as the contract has not been finalized yet, we will see if the contract will be signed but if they just talk so much without action, that would not gonna help things to settle. Once in for all, please, Inoue should fight Casimero so he will stop barking.

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Quote from: tippytoes on August 21, 2021, 05:46:55 AM

if Inoue-Casimero will happen first, we will see how far is Casimero's power here. Seems that it may possibly happen before the end of this year.

Inoue has had enough of Casimero of accusing him of dusking him, so he asks that the fight be arraign, Inoue supposed to fight Donaire but hopefully, Donaire will give way for the Inoue - Casimero to happen, the excitement for this fight to happen is very high, this is the right time for the fight to happen because emotion is very high on both fighters.

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It will not matter how many times Casimero will show his middle finger because he did not have a good performance in his latest win. Nonito Donaire however, he shocked everyone in his latest win. I reckon that is a very good argument on why Nonito should be next.

Also, I read some replies that Inoue should be careful vs. Casimero hehe. How can you say this after his performance vs. Rigondoeux. Casimero showed poor boxing skills and was made into a chasing clown.

Casimero often like to taunts his opponent lol Grin

the fact is I feel Inoue is much stronger than Casimero, his positioning and punch is on point.

But I disagree with you Casimero has a good offensive boxing skills and he's chasing Rigondeaux, because Rigondeaux just run away on the ring like Mayweather, Rigondeaux deserve a social distancing belt Cheesy

Yes, we have seen it. Rigo is just running around the ring, which surprisingly, he was expecting to win the fight. Grin

I don't know why you will expect to win if you are avoiding your opponent. There are even instances that Casimero seemed tired of chasing Rigo. Anyway, if Inoue-Casimero will happen first, we will see how far is Casimero's power here. Seems that it may possibly happen before the end of this year.

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@Kemarit. However, there are no opponents for Inoue that Bob Arum can sell the fans in bantamweight unless it is versus Nonito Donaire or Casimero. I reckon the best plan to milk Inoue would be to fight Casimero, Donaire then move up to super bantamweight.

I guess Bob Arum should understand that there are only few fighters in the division that could give a good fight to Inoue and would give the fans the real entertainment they are looking for. Casimero is waiting, so why look for another fighter when one of the best is already in front of you, if this is all about money then boxing would be boring and maybe it's time that Inoue will consider changing his promoter if he wants real success in his career.

This is the first time I saw a fighter saying that he wants an immediate fight to a challenger but suddenly things change because the promoter came in because he realize his cash cow's future might be in danger.

It will not matter how many times Casimero will show his middle finger because he did not have a good performance in his latest win. Nonito Donaire however, he shocked everyone in his latest win. I reckon that is a very good argument on why Nonito should be next.

Also, I read some replies that Inoue should be careful vs. Casimero hehe. How can you say this after his performance vs. Rigondoeux. Casimero showed poor boxing skills and was made into a chasing clown.

But Rigo didn't have a good performance as well, he just play defense and then chose to counter. Casimero is more of brawler, so a brawler vs a defensive fighter is one recipe for a snooze fight and this is what we get.

Against Inoue though, we might see a different fight, Inoue counters but he is also likes to engage. So we might see a difference performance coming from Casimero. But in the end, I will have Inoue winning.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 21, 2021, 12:16:20 AM

It will not matter how many times Casimero will show his middle finger because he did not have a good performance in his latest win. Nonito Donaire however, he shocked everyone in his latest win. I reckon that is a very good argument on why Nonito should be next.

Also, I read some replies that Inoue should be careful vs. Casimero hehe. How can you say this after his performance vs. Rigondoeux. Casimero showed poor boxing skills and was made into a chasing clown.

Casimero often like to taunts his opponent lol Grin

the fact is I feel Inoue is much stronger than Casimero, his positioning and punch is on point.

But I disagree with you Casimero has a good offensive boxing skills and he's chasing Rigondeaux, because Rigondeaux just run away on the ring like Mayweather, Rigondeaux deserve a social distancing belt Cheesy

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@Kemarit. However, there are no opponents for Inoue that Bob Arum can sell the fans in bantamweight unless it is versus Nonito Donaire or Casimero. I reckon the best plan to milk Inoue would be to fight Casimero, Donaire then move up to super bantamweight.

I guess Bob Arum should understand that there are only few fighters in the division that could give a good fight to Inoue and would give the fans the real entertainment they are looking for. Casimero is waiting, so why look for another fighter when one of the best is already in front of you, if this is all about money then boxing would be boring and maybe it's time that Inoue will consider changing his promoter if he wants real success in his career.

This is the first time I saw a fighter saying that he wants an immediate fight to a challenger but suddenly things change because the promoter came in because he realize his cash cow's future might be in danger.

It will not matter how many times Casimero will show his middle finger because he did not have a good performance in his latest win. Nonito Donaire however, he shocked everyone in his latest win. I reckon that is a very good argument on why Nonito should be next.

Also, I read some replies that Inoue should be careful vs. Casimero hehe. How can you say this after his performance vs. Rigondoeux. Casimero showed poor boxing skills and was made into a chasing clown.

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Quote from: chaser15 on August 20, 2021, 08:20:36 PM

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If Inoue will choose to fight other fighters to build his name more,

I think that would not happen. He will only choose between Donaire and Casimero to cement his dominance in Bantamweight. He needs to have a rematch on Donaire as their first match is close and he received a fatal injury on that match. To settle things, he needs to take down Donaire for the second time. He also needs to fight Casimero to end up the book and put the boxer into silent mode.

Whoever the first match for him, there's no problem. If his upcoming fight won't happen between this 2 PH boxers, then he just shows he's avoiding them.

I don't think that he's going to avoid any of them. He's up for fighting any of them, I think he has said that when Casimero was done with his match recently. And while there is some push that Casimero wants to fight him, I think that he's going to have a box first with Casimero rather than with Donaire. There's a tenser if he's going to take on Casimero for his next match and that's why he wants to take it into the list first and negotiate it already so that he can prove that he's better than the two.

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If Inoue will choose to fight other fighters to build his name more,

I think that would not happen. He will only choose between Donaire and Casimero to cement his dominance in Bantamweight. He needs to have a rematch on Donaire as their first match is close and he received a fatal injury on that match. To settle things, he needs to take down Donaire for the second time. He also needs to fight Casimero to end up the book and put the boxer into silent mode.

Whoever the first match for him, there's no problem. If his upcoming fight won't happen between this 2 PH boxers, then he just shows he's avoiding them.

It's the logical choice, Donaire and Casimero, but I would say that Top Rank boss will have the final say as to who will he fight next, that is boxing politics. Top Rank will have total control of his career, that's why we have seen Floyd and Oscar severing their ties with Bob Arum because of this, and of course the pay cut that this promoters is getting.

It will be good if we are going to see him fight either of that PH boxers next, but I'm not going to be surprised if Top Rank wanted him to defend against Tete.

@bbc.reporter - it doesn't matter for Bob Arum, as long as he can protect his cash cow from Casimero or Donaire for the time being, he will do that.

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Quote from: Botnake on August 20, 2021, 03:54:39 PM

If Inoue will choose to fight other fighters to build his name more,

I think that would not happen. He will only choose between Donaire and Casimero to cement his dominance in Bantamweight. He needs to have a rematch on Donaire as their first match is close and he received a fatal injury on that match. To settle things, he needs to take down Donaire for the second time. He also needs to fight Casimero to end up the book and put the boxer into silent mode.

Whoever the first match for him, there's no problem. If his upcoming fight won't happen between this 2 PH boxers, then he just shows he's avoiding them.

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If they would see soo much demand with Casimero vs Inoue then he might consider on pushing it to happen but lets take this a pinch of salt because we dont know
on whats up to their minds.

Casimero is already popular, so I believe they already know that the demand for the fight is high, however, the promoter is also looking about the possibility of the outcome of the fight, if Inoue would lose in the fight, that would be the end of his future and Bob Arum would not be able to earn from his investment on Inoue.

The problem with this division is that there are no US names, maybe except Donaire who have been campaigning for many years in this division, but I do think that Inoue and Casimero is not yet a household name, they are just starting to build one in the US soil. So both of there promoters, specially Inoue, should established their names first, create more hype so that US fans will buy their tickets and make more money for Bob, just like what he did to the career of Manny Pacquiao.

Seems that they are gaining attentions now, with how Casimero keeps on posting on his social media accounts. It's been noticed by Inoue's camp and with that the sports media also seen the potentials, they've been calling for this fight and keep attracting interest not only with the Asian fans but also those who watch how Inoue and Casimero fought against their last opponents.

Promoters and handlers will look for possibilities of grabbing more money if these free promotional ways will create big impacts for both camps!

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Quote from: dothebeats on August 20, 2021, 03:45:55 PM

The new comments of Inoue against Casimero seemed to allude to an upcoming match, though we all know that Bob Arum.wouldn't allow this to happen yet. He would still milk the hell out of Inoue on giving him fights against other big names before matching him up with Casimero who is also hungry for wins yet still a relatively unknown fighter on some parts of this world. Inoue still is primed for matchups with the Westerners wherein money is to be made, and Casimero isn't that fighter yet.

If Inoue will choose to fight other fighters to build his name more, I think Casimero would do the same journey as being promoted by Manny Pacquiao makes him popular, of all the boxers under the MP promotion, I believe Casimero is the most successful and his style brought him to popularity.

Since Donaire is also a champ and he would be retiring soon, I think it's nice if the fans will be granted a fight with either of the 3 boxers to match up each other.

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The new comments of Inoue against Casimero seemed to allude to an upcoming match, though we all know that Bob Arum.wouldn't allow this to happen yet. He would still milk the hell out of Inoue on giving him fights against other big names before matching him up with Casimero who is also hungry for wins yet still a relatively unknown fighter on some parts of this world. Inoue still is primed for matchups with the Westerners wherein money is to be made, and Casimero isn't that fighter yet.

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