[Boxing] Inoue vs Casimero Bantamweight Unification Fight - page 22.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on April 18, 2020, 06:15:07 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on April 17, 2020, 06:57:55 PM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on April 17, 2020, 06:43:54 PM

I dont see any reason for the fight to proceed as long we are still on a pandemic problem.Those are just words but doesnt mean that it should really be done since we know that most countries now are on the same situation (have infected people) so thinking up on where would be the venue for now is somewhat irrelevant but i do agree that Toprank wont really consider for the fight to be held on Japan.
Lets wait on what would be the future announcements in regards to this fight.

I don't see any discussion that the fight will push right now that we are dealing with the virus so that issue should be stopped now. There's no such thing as that.

If you will read the article shared by bisdak, it's definitely right after the pandemic virus, of course. It's a no-brainer to think that this fight will push in a time like this.

Organizers are well knowledge and they know that pushing the fight will not be considered in a time like this. This don't need a discussion actually.

The fight is not pushing thru. They already postponed it. So I don't know what kind of discussion we will have here.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2020/03/naoya-inoue-vs-john-riel-casimero-postponed-for-april-25-due-to-coronavirus/

I guess better lock this thread for the time being and just open it again once there is already a new schedule for the fight.

The fight is still going to happen, it was just postponed, there is no reason why this thread should be close, unless the fight is cancelled because if that happens, there is no reason for us to discuss here. We can use this thread to see for the update of the fight so we will be aware of there's any.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 17, 2020, 06:57:55 PM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on April 17, 2020, 06:43:54 PM

I dont see any reason for the fight to proceed as long we are still on a pandemic problem.Those are just words but doesnt mean that it should really be done since we know that most countries now are on the same situation (have infected people) so thinking up on where would be the venue for now is somewhat irrelevant but i do agree that Toprank wont really consider for the fight to be held on Japan.
Lets wait on what would be the future announcements in regards to this fight.

I don't see any discussion that the fight will push right now that we are dealing with the virus so that issue should be stopped now. There's no such thing as that.

If you will read the article shared by bisdak, it's definitely right after the pandemic virus, of course. It's a no-brainer to think that this fight will push in a time like this.

Organizers are well knowledge and they know that pushing the fight will not be considered in a time like this. This don't need a discussion actually.

The fight is not pushing thru. They already postponed it. So I don't know what kind of discussion we will have here.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2020/03/naoya-inoue-vs-john-riel-casimero-postponed-for-april-25-due-to-coronavirus/

I guess better lock this thread for the time being and just open it again once there is already a new schedule for the fight.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 18, 2020, 07:15:02 AM

Quote from: Latviand on April 18, 2020, 06:23:01 AM

Inoue is really a great fighter and he keeps on improving and improving a lot, and his manager should be proud about the potential of his boxer. Inoue defeated a lot of great players like Donaire, Naoya Inoue is really a monster when he stepped on the ring, he shows no mercy against his opponent that's why I watched him every time he fight.

We could agree that Inoue is really good, but beating Donaire is not something good as this guy is already aging, and the fact that he struggles against Donaire, he will surely struggle more against a younger boxer like Casimero.

Bet on that one,Yeah Inuoe is one of the promising boxer of Japan but this doesnt mean he will Win this fight that easy.
Nonito Donaire is Great fighter but this is not His time now,Hes speed and power punches are now decreasing and Inuoe is Very young compared to Him.

So this Fight against Casimero is one of His Career toughest Fight and he will never forget this for sure.

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Quote from: Latviand on April 18, 2020, 06:23:01 AM

Inoue is really a great fighter and he keeps on improving and improving a lot, and his manager should be proud about the potential of his boxer. Inoue defeated a lot of great players like Donaire, Naoya Inoue is really a monster when he stepped on the ring, he shows no mercy against his opponent that's why I watched him every time he fight.

We could agree that Inoue is really good, but beating Donaire is not something good as this guy is already aging, and the fact that he struggles against Donaire, he will surely struggle more against a younger boxer like Casimero.

Quote from: Latviand on April 18, 2020, 06:23:01 AM

Casimero is also a great fighter and as a Filipino, I will say that I'm with him no matter how strong his opponent his because I believed that Filipinos are brave and legendary when it comes to boxing. Whenever he fight, he is raising a Philippine Flag that serves us his heart. He is dedicated to boxing and I believe that he will win this one.

They just need to stay healthy and train without any pressure and fear of getting the virus, they just need some rest and proper training to become prepared when they are ready to fight.

At least this fight gives us big excitement as although the Filipino is the underdog, but we don't really feel it.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 05, 2020, 05:55:32 PM

Maybe because most of the Filipino boxing fans are very supportive of their compatriot, me included and the fact that most of those who voted in the poll are Filipinos, no doubt that Casimero won via landslide

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The fight will push through, it's not cancelled just postponed. Both boxers just need to survive this pandemic and not succumbed to it.

Agreed we Filipino's are extremely supportive and also gets excited seeing a countrymen fought to world class fighters like Inoue who also defeated countless Filipino such as Donaire. Im expecting the match to be good and to be able to wage money, once this pandemic is all over and everything goes back to normal.

Hopefully those two are well and not forcing to train even with the threat of the virus. We all want to see both fighters in the top of their prime.

Inoue is really a great fighter and he keeps on improving and improving a lot, and his manager should be proud about the potential of his boxer. Inoue defeated a lot of great players like Donaire, Naoya Inoue is really a monster when he stepped on the ring, he shows no mercy against his opponent that's why I watched him every time he fight.

Casimero is also a great fighter and as a Filipino, I will say that I'm with him no matter how strong his opponent his because I believed that Filipinos are brave and legendary when it comes to boxing. Whenever he fight, he is raising a Philippine Flag that serves us his heart. He is dedicated to boxing and I believe that he will win this one.

They just need to stay healthy and train without any pressure and fear of getting the virus, they just need some rest and proper training to become prepared when they are ready to fight.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on April 17, 2020, 06:43:54 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 17, 2020, 05:49:21 PM

Like what you have said bro, relocating the fight in Japan is only Inoue's presumption and TOP RANK has nothing to do with that statement of him. I have a feeling that Inoue is hesitant to fight outside of Japan with him releasing that statement lol.

Anyways, IMHO Top Rank would do it's best to present Inoue to a bigger market which is in Las Vegas and they will do it after this pandemic is over of course.

I dont see any reason for the fight to proceed as long we are still on a pandemic problem.Those are just words but doesnt mean that it should really be done since we know that most countries now are on the same situation (have infected people) so thinking up on where would be the venue for now is somewhat irrelevant but i do agree that Toprank wont really consider for the fight to be held on Japan.
Lets wait on what would be the future announcements in regards to this fight.

and for sure Casimero's Side will not allow this to happen because this will surely favor the Japanese fighter since it is His mother land.
if they wanted to have a fare fight then better wait until the pandemic is done and besides this both favor the fighters as they have lots of time for the preparations.
maybe Inuoe's team is trying to build up issue and looking for support so the game will be done in their place.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on April 17, 2020, 06:43:54 PM

I dont see any reason for the fight to proceed as long we are still on a pandemic problem.Those are just words but doesnt mean that it should really be done since we know that most countries now are on the same situation (have infected people) so thinking up on where would be the venue for now is somewhat irrelevant but i do agree that Toprank wont really consider for the fight to be held on Japan.
Lets wait on what would be the future announcements in regards to this fight.

I don't see any discussion that the fight will push right now that we are dealing with the virus so that issue should be stopped now. There's no such thing as that.

If you will read the article shared by bisdak, it's definitely right after the pandemic virus, of course. It's a no-brainer to think that this fight will push in a time like this.

Organizers are well knowledge and they know that pushing the fight will not be considered in a time like this. This don't need a discussion actually.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 17, 2020, 05:49:21 PM

Like what you have said bro, relocating the fight in Japan is only Inoue's presumption and TOP RANK has nothing to do with that statement of him. I have a feeling that Inoue is hesitant to fight outside of Japan with him releasing that statement lol.

Anyways, IMHO Top Rank would do it's best to present Inoue to a bigger market which is in Las Vegas and they will do it after this pandemic is over of course.

I dont see any reason for the fight to proceed as long we are still on a pandemic problem.Those are just words but doesnt mean that it should really be done since we know that most countries now are on the same situation (have infected people) so thinking up on where would be the venue for now is somewhat irrelevant but i do agree that Toprank wont really consider for the fight to be held on Japan.
Lets wait on what would be the future announcements in regards to this fight.

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Quote from: harizen on April 17, 2020, 05:18:28 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on April 16, 2020, 09:40:04 PM

I highly doubt that the government of Japan will allow the boxing match in Tokyo. As per https://covid19japan.com/, Tokyo has the highest cases of Covid-19, so it's not likely that they will simply go there as venue alternative.

Besides, I also don't think that Arum will allow that fight to happen in Japan, we all know how Arum works, its all about how big Top Rank can milk this fight. I guess it is Inoue statement alone and not representing Top Rank, perhaps he just blurted it out of frustration because he is eager to go fight the best version of Casimero at this point.

Quote from: Darker45 on April 16, 2020, 10:05:12 PM

Aside from that, the entire Japan is being put under a state of emergency. This is in place until May 6. In line with this, the government is urging people to remain in their homes. So I guess this match will be put off indefinitely pending the stability of the situation. After all, both Japan and the US are suffering from the blow dealt by COVID-19.

Looks like you guys got mislead. Inoue's thought of relocation is obviously will not take place while the whole world is currently dealing with the pandemic virus.

Of course, it should be after and not today. Since Vegas got hit by damage, the fight might not take place there immediately once the virus is manageable. So for an alternative, Inoue thought it might be better in Japan.

Although I agree that Top Rank will always consider a bigger market but I'm sure they are considering relocating for the fight to push through. Maybe on the other US States that not got heavily affected. These people are business experts and looking at all sides before executing. Again, not today.

Like what you have said bro, relocating the fight in Japan is only Inoue's presumption and TOP RANK has nothing to do with that statement of him. I have a feeling that Inoue is hesitant to fight outside of Japan with him releasing that statement lol.

Anyways, IMHO Top Rank would do it's best to present Inoue to a bigger market which is in Las Vegas and they will do it after this pandemic is over of course.

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Quote from: TravelMug on April 16, 2020, 09:40:04 PM

I highly doubt that the government of Japan will allow the boxing match in Tokyo. As per https://covid19japan.com/, Tokyo has the highest cases of Covid-19, so it's not likely that they will simply go there as venue alternative.

Besides, I also don't think that Arum will allow that fight to happen in Japan, we all know how Arum works, its all about how big Top Rank can milk this fight. I guess it is Inoue statement alone and not representing Top Rank, perhaps he just blurted it out of frustration because he is eager to go fight the best version of Casimero at this point.

Quote from: Darker45 on April 16, 2020, 10:05:12 PM

Aside from that, the entire Japan is being put under a state of emergency. This is in place until May 6. In line with this, the government is urging people to remain in their homes. So I guess this match will be put off indefinitely pending the stability of the situation. After all, both Japan and the US are suffering from the blow dealt by COVID-19.

Looks like you guys got mislead. Inoue's thought of relocation is obviously will not take place while the whole world is currently dealing with the pandemic virus.

Of course, it should be after and not today. Since Vegas got hit by damage, the fight might not take place there immediately once the virus is manageable. So for an alternative, Inoue thought it might be better in Japan.

Although I agree that Top Rank will always consider a bigger market but I'm sure they are considering relocating for the fight to push through. Maybe on the other US States that not got heavily affected. These people are business experts and looking at all sides before executing. Again, not today.

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Quote from: matchi2011 on April 16, 2020, 11:04:42 PM

It won't be easy for Inoue as Filipino boxers always have the heart to try it best winning against their opponents, though odd favors Inoue seeing it from any sports houses.
It will be decided once the pandemic virus find the right cure and the fight schedule decided again.

Of course, as a Filipino I will always bet on Casimero, I like the betting odds that Inoue is the favorites here because I am still confidence that Casimero will win and I'll be getting a good odds. We have different opinion especially the majority who side Inoue to win here, but this is me, I support my fellow countryman.

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Quote from: Questat on April 16, 2020, 09:38:16 AM

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My bet is on Inoue. He’s a very good fighter, his techniques are outstanding. And with a record with 19 wins, it’s hard not to like him.

Most bettors would like Inoue, that's why he is the heavy favorite in this fight.
19 wins is only few compared to his opponents record, but his record is undefeated so it would tell that he really is a good fighter.

based on the betting odds, Inoue is the favorite, but I don't think Casimero is an easy opponent.

It won't be easy for Inoue as Filipino boxers always have the heart to try it best winning against their opponents, though odd favors Inoue seeing it from any sports houses.
It will be decided once the pandemic virus find the right cure and the fight schedule decided again.

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Quote from: TravelMug on April 16, 2020, 09:40:04 PM

Quote from: harizen on April 16, 2020, 05:11:40 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 16, 2020, 04:46:32 PM

Here's more update on Inoue and his plan on his future.

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Naoya Inoue Staying in Form, Hungry To Still Face Casimero

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-staying-form-hungry-still-face-casimero--148258

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I highly doubt that the government of Japan will allow the boxing match in Tokyo. As per https://covid19japan.com/, Tokyo has the highest cases of Covid-19, so it's not likely that they will simply go there as venue alternative.

Aside from that, the entire Japan is being put under a state of emergency. This is in place until May 6. In line with this, the government is urging people to remain in their homes. So I guess this match will be put off indefinitely pending the stability of the situation. After all, both Japan and the US are suffering from the blow dealt by COVID-19.

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Quote from: harizen on April 16, 2020, 05:11:40 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 16, 2020, 04:46:32 PM

Here's more update on Inoue and his plan on his future.

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Naoya Inoue Staying in Form, Hungry To Still Face Casimero

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-staying-form-hungry-still-face-casimero--148258

[.. snip..]

I highly doubt that the government of Japan will allow the boxing match in Tokyo. As per https://covid19japan.com/, Tokyo has the highest cases of Covid-19, so it's not likely that they will simply go there as venue alternative.

Besides, I also don't think that Arum will allow that fight to happen in Japan, we all know how Arum works, its all about how big Top Rank can milk this fight. I guess it is Inoue statement alone and not representing Top Rank, perhaps he just blurted it out of frustration because he is eager to go fight the best version of Casimero at this point.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 16, 2020, 04:46:32 PM

Here's more update on Inoue and his plan on his future.

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Naoya Inoue Staying in Form, Hungry To Still Face Casimero

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-staying-form-hungry-still-face-casimero--148258

Upon reading the article, Inoue says that it's possible to take place the fight on Japan as it was safer compare to the USA once the pandemic virus is now controlled or at least minimizes the confirmed cases.

It looks like he already gave us a hint of information there that Top Rank is considering shifting into another venue rather than to wait for 100% virus-free at the original venue. Although Inoue used the word "Presumably" so maybe just his opinion?

Japan live audiences might not reach the expected revenues that organizers will get in Vegas but as we know, Japan is full support at always on any international venue held on their country. And since it's a home country of Inoue, surely it's gonna be a full pack @ Kōrakuen Hall (this place is the most popular venue for boxing events, also regularly featured as the main event place in the boxing anime 'Hajime No Ippo').

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My bet is on Inoue. He’s a very good fighter, his techniques are outstanding. And with a record with 19 wins, it’s hard not to like him.

You are right, it's not hard to like him to win this fight and in fact he is the top dog here. Styles makes a fight as they say and i think that Casimero has that fighting style to beat Inoue here.

Here's more update on Inoue and his plan on his future.

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Naoya Inoue Staying in Form, Hungry To Still Face Casimero

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-staying-form-hungry-still-face-casimero--148258

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My bet is on Inoue. He’s a very good fighter, his techniques are outstanding. And with a record with 19 wins, it’s hard not to like him.

Most bettors would like Inoue, that's why he is the heavy favorite in this fight.
19 wins is only few compared to his opponents record, but his record is undefeated so it would tell that he really is a good fighter.

based on the betting odds, Inoue is the favorite, but I don't think Casimero is an easy opponent.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 09, 2020, 09:46:05 AM

Quote from: Sadlife on April 09, 2020, 03:34:47 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 05, 2020, 05:55:32 PM

Maybe because most of the Filipino boxing fans are very supportive of their compatriot, me included and the fact that most of those who voted in the poll are Filipinos, no doubt that Casimero won via landslide

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The fight will push through, it's not cancelled just postponed. Both boxers just need to survive this pandemic and not succumbed to it.

Agreed we Filipino's are extremely supportive and also gets excited seeing a countrymen fought to world class fighters like Inoue who also defeated countless Filipino such as Donaire. Im expecting the match to be good and to be able to wage money, once this pandemic is all over and everything goes back to normal.

Hopefully those two are well and not forcing to train even with the threat of the virus. We all want to see both fighters in the top of their prime.

They are out of their mind if they skill keep training at the moment, it's been the government order to stay at home to avoid getting infected, so they can't train right now, unless they have their gym in their home. There's time for training after the pandemic, and for sure, the fight will not be rescheduled right after the pandemic, the promoter are sure gonna give both fighters a chance to train again.

Well that would be really insane if they push their fighter to train outside while they already know the risk of getting infected but for sure the trainers know how to handle the situation and do the counter measure so that Casimero will not get jack off for waiting the fight without doing nothing and indoor training is for sure happening at their end. As per latest information gotten i think they rescheduled the fight but hopefully this disease will really end soon so that we can see this exciting bout featuring our kababayan.

Indoor training is no brainer which these fighters will surely consider it out since they do know the situation that anyone should really stay home but we know that boxers do have that routine when it comes to their training.Yeah its hard but its plausible to train while you are on home or on your teams camp.Its better to be preventive rather than risking to go out which would make things more even messy if one of these boxers
would be affected.All of us are longing or expecting for this fight just like on other sports as well where everything gets postponed and this one is no exception.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 09, 2020, 09:46:05 AM

Quote from: Sadlife on April 09, 2020, 03:34:47 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 05, 2020, 05:55:32 PM

Maybe because most of the Filipino boxing fans are very supportive of their compatriot, me included and the fact that most of those who voted in the poll are Filipinos, no doubt that Casimero won via landslide

.

The fight will push through, it's not cancelled just postponed. Both boxers just need to survive this pandemic and not succumbed to it.

Agreed we Filipino's are extremely supportive and also gets excited seeing a countrymen fought to world class fighters like Inoue who also defeated countless Filipino such as Donaire. Im expecting the match to be good and to be able to wage money, once this pandemic is all over and everything goes back to normal.

Hopefully those two are well and not forcing to train even with the threat of the virus. We all want to see both fighters in the top of their prime.

They are out of their mind if they skill keep training at the moment, it's been the government order to stay at home to avoid getting infected, so they can't train right now, unless they have their gym in their home. There's time for training after the pandemic, and for sure, the fight will not be rescheduled right after the pandemic, the promoter are sure gonna give both fighters a chance to train again.

Well that would be really insane if they push their fighter to train outside while they already know the risk of getting infected but for sure the trainers know how to handle the situation and do the counter measure so that Casimero will not get jack off for waiting the fight without doing nothing and indoor training is for sure happening at their end. As per latest information gotten i think they rescheduled the fight but hopefully this disease will really end soon so that we can see this exciting bout featuring our kababayan.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 09, 2020, 09:46:05 AM

Quote from: Sadlife on April 09, 2020, 03:34:47 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 05, 2020, 05:55:32 PM

Maybe because most of the Filipino boxing fans are very supportive of their compatriot, me included and the fact that most of those who voted in the poll are Filipinos, no doubt that Casimero won via landslide

.

The fight will push through, it's not cancelled just postponed. Both boxers just need to survive this pandemic and not succumbed to it.

Agreed we Filipino's are extremely supportive and also gets excited seeing a countrymen fought to world class fighters like Inoue who also defeated countless Filipino such as Donaire. Im expecting the match to be good and to be able to wage money, once this pandemic is all over and everything goes back to normal.

Hopefully those two are well and not forcing to train even with the threat of the virus. We all want to see both fighters in the top of their prime.

They are out of their mind if they skill keep training at the moment, it's been the government order to stay at home to avoid getting infected, so they can't train right now, unless they have their gym in their home. There's time for training after the pandemic, and for sure, the fight will not be rescheduled right after the pandemic, the promoter are sure gonna give both fighters a chance to train again.

No, it would be insane to do so. Last time i've read that Casimero is just staying in the apartment provided by MP promotions. He kept fit by doing some mitts and they avoid things so that Casimero won't be burn out. Sean Gibbons have said that this fight is rescheduled in June but i think that date is so early given the fact that there are also big fights that were cancelled, venues in Vegas would be a problem also.

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