[BOXING] Jonas Sultan vs Carlos Caraballo - October 30, 2021 - page 7.

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Quote from: molsewid on October 07, 2021, 01:29:25 AM

Caraballo has an impressive record with being undefeated I think it would be hard fight for Jonas Sultan.

The stats are really impressive, and this guy is still hot after winning last March of this year.

Quote from: molsewid on October 07, 2021, 01:29:25 AM

From the current record presented for sure the bookies will favor Caraballo but being undefeated doesn't mean that we should underestimate the skills and potential of Sultan which I think Caraballo shouldn't be comfortable with his current record too.

Bookies will favor him as heavy favorite, stats wise also his popularities give him the advantages.

He already beats experienced fighters, so it won't be hard for him to repeat that, the momentum still in his favor.

Quote from: molsewid on October 07, 2021, 01:29:25 AM

The fight may seem Sultan being underdog when it comes to a record basis but we wouldn't know until we see the fight.

We can't conclude anything till the day they meet and fight, there's still enough time to assess and choose which fighter you think will win.

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I think it's Sultan that was more experienced but Caraballo's dangerous resume of only having KOs on all his fight is the best stat could ever have in this fight to side for. They both are in their primes and I guess that's how exhilarating this fight was.

This is such an interesting fight to watch both fighters are very promising and both hungry to get a world title crack, and this may well be a fight that could push them into the limelight, its power versus technicality between the two, I'm into technicality here we have seen how a technical boxer like Usyk beat a power puncher like Joshua.
I still believe Sultan is very much capable of beating Graballo.

I agree, although people are talking about Caraballo knockout power, Sultan shouldn't be taken lightly though. Yes, he ha losses but he is as tough as you can get a fighter from the Philippines that's why he has been given the chance.

I'm not a hater but maybe Caraballo is over rated here, he hasn't fought anyone with a good chin and big heart like Sultan. There could be surprises in this fight.

Garaballo is not overrated IMO, his record is just impressive so people think that he will be the favorite in this fight and he would win. Sultan is not yet a known fighter, he still has a lot of proving to do in order to make a name in boxing, so beating an undefeated fighter would really help him to be popular.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on October 06, 2021, 06:05:44 PM

The odds are not yet out, but we are expecting that bookies will favor Caraballo here.
Caraballo should also not underestimate the strength of Sultan because it may ruin his undefeated record.
Preparation and techniques are good combination to defeat an opponent.
That's why sometimes record is not the ultimate basis of who will win the fight inside the ring.

Caraballo has an impressive record with being undefeated I think it would be hard fight for Jonas Sultan. From the current record presented for sure the bookies will favor Caraballo but being undefeated doesn't mean that we should underestimate the skills and potential of Sultan which I think Caraballo shouldn't be comfortable with his current record too. The fight may seem Sultan being underdog when it comes to a record basis but we wouldn't know until we see the fight.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on September 14, 2021, 07:17:00 PM

I think it's Sultan that was more experienced but Caraballo's dangerous resume of only having KOs on all his fight is the best stat could ever have in this fight to side for. They both are in their primes and I guess that's how exhilarating this fight was.

This is such an interesting fight to watch both fighters are very promising and both hungry to get a world title crack, and this may well be a fight that could push them into the limelight, its power versus technicality between the two, I'm into technicality here we have seen how a technical boxer like Usyk beat a power puncher like Joshua.
I still believe Sultan is very much capable of beating Graballo.

I agree, although people are talking about Caraballo knockout power, Sultan shouldn't be taken lightly though. Yes, he ha losses but he is as tough as you can get a fighter from the Philippines that's why he has been given the chance.

I'm not a hater but maybe Caraballo is over rated here, he hasn't fought anyone with a good chin and big heart like Sultan. There could be surprises in this fight.

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IMO, indeed Caraballo is one of the strongest fighter in his time with a record of 14-0 all by knockout but I don't think he has the advantage with the Filipino boxer with a record of 17-5 WL (11 of that is knockout)

Caraballo can't defeat Sultan easily in the early rounds because Sultan is more aggressive than his opponent and the Filipino boxer has more experience than the Puerto Rican fighter and can become an advantage and can fight Caraballo toe-to-toe.

http://philboxing.com/news/story-158521.html

He can't as Sultan is an experienced fighter who can also knock him down.

If Caraballo fight lazy and thinks he can easily beat his opponent, he might be surprised with what Sultan may bring him.

We know that inside the ring, the fighter who prepared well is the one who have the advantage, upset can happened anytime

Sultan have that chance if Caraballo will not take care and let him go toe-to-toe.

Caraballo looks impressive with his undefeated record and his KO ratio and I understand why people see in him a potential star and think he is the favorite to win this fight, but he better prepare himself to the best of this abilities because Sultan is not going to be an easy fighter for him to beat up.

I know that many are not liking the fact that Sultan has that many losses but he is still a good fighter with more experience than Caraballo so he could just try to tire Caraballo out and beat him during the second half of the fight once Caraballo does not have the same stamina.

The odds are not yet out, but we are expecting that bookies will favor Caraballo here.
Caraballo should also not underestimate the strength of Sultan because it may ruin his undefeated record.
Preparation and techniques are good combination to defeat an opponent.
That's why sometimes record is not the ultimate basis of who will win the fight inside the ring.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on September 30, 2021, 06:16:18 AM

Quote from: Rufsilf on September 29, 2021, 09:56:05 PM

IMO, indeed Caraballo is one of the strongest fighter in his time with a record of 14-0 all by knockout but I don't think he has the advantage with the Filipino boxer with a record of 17-5 WL (11 of that is knockout)

Caraballo can't defeat Sultan easily in the early rounds because Sultan is more aggressive than his opponent and the Filipino boxer has more experience than the Puerto Rican fighter and can become an advantage and can fight Caraballo toe-to-toe.

http://philboxing.com/news/story-158521.html

He can't as Sultan is an experienced fighter who can also knock him down.

If Caraballo fight lazy and thinks he can easily beat his opponent, he might be surprised with what Sultan may bring him.

We know that inside the ring, the fighter who prepared well is the one who have the advantage, upset can happened anytime

Sultan have that chance if Caraballo will not take care and let him go toe-to-toe.

Caraballo looks impressive with his undefeated record and his KO ratio and I understand why people see in him a potential star and think he is the favorite to win this fight, but he better prepare himself to the best of this abilities because Sultan is not going to be an easy fighter for him to beat up.

I know that many are not liking the fact that Sultan has that many losses but he is still a good fighter with more experience than Caraballo so he could just try to tire Caraballo out and beat him during the second half of the fight once Caraballo does not have the same stamina.

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Quote from: freedomgo on October 01, 2021, 08:33:24 AM

Quote from: Questat on October 01, 2021, 01:42:19 AM

This young fighter will only learn once they experience getting KO.

Possible because they have the power to KO their opponent, so hopefully the promoter will put a rematch clause as it's good to watch two fighters who are willing to give everything just to make the fight interesting.

They are not champions like Wilder and Fury, so most likely there's no rematch clause in this fight, but depending on what they will show in the ring, if the fight ended in a controversial manner, then probably the promoter could set up a rematch if both fighters will agree on the terms.

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Quote from: Questat on October 01, 2021, 01:42:19 AM

Just try to reflect on the Pacquiao vs Marquez fight (their last fight), on that fight, Pacquiao was already going for a kill, but he didn't know Marquez still has the strength so, with a good counterpunch, Pacquiao got KO and hit the canvas.

That's true, and Pacquiao learn from that not to be overaggressive as a lucky punch could always happen and will put a fighter on the ground.
Also, it's a different story as they already fought many times, while this fight, it's their first time to fight each other.

Quote from: Questat on October 01, 2021, 01:42:19 AM

This young fighter will only learn once they experience getting KO.

Possible because they have the power to KO their opponent, so hopefully the promoter will put a rematch clause as it's good to watch two fighters who are willing to give everything just to make the fight interesting.

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Quote from: coin-investor on October 01, 2021, 01:33:07 AM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on September 14, 2021, 07:17:00 PM

I think it's Sultan that was more experienced but Caraballo's dangerous resume of only having KOs on all his fight is the best stat could ever have in this fight to side for. They both are in their primes and I guess that's how exhilarating this fight was.

This is such an interesting fight to watch both fighters are very promising and both hungry to get a world title crack, and this may well be a fight that could push them into the limelight, its power versus technicality between the two, I'm into technicality here we have seen how a technical boxer like Usyk beat a power puncher like Joshua.
I still believe Sultan is very much capable of beating Graballo.

We will see that.

Their style could change depending on who they are fighting, while a fighter who always win via KO, means he is really aggressive and would always go for a kill, sometimes, that's also a weakness because it made him underestimate the power of his opponent as he wants to KO right way.

Just try to reflect on the Pacquiao vs Marquez fight (their last fight), on that fight, Pacquiao was already going for a kill, but he didn't know Marquez still has the strength so, with a good counterpunch, Pacquiao got KO and hit the canvas.

This young fighter will only learn once they experience getting KO.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on September 14, 2021, 07:17:00 PM

I think it's Sultan that was more experienced but Caraballo's dangerous resume of only having KOs on all his fight is the best stat could ever have in this fight to side for. They both are in their primes and I guess that's how exhilarating this fight was.

This is such an interesting fight to watch both fighters are very promising and both hungry to get a world title crack, and this may well be a fight that could push them into the limelight, its power versus technicality between the two, I'm into technicality here we have seen how a technical boxer like Usyk beat a power puncher like Joshua.
I still believe Sultan is very much capable of beating Graballo.

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Quote from: Rufsilf on September 29, 2021, 09:56:05 PM

IMO, indeed Caraballo is one of the strongest fighter in his time with a record of 14-0 all by knockout but I don't think he has the advantage with the Filipino boxer with a record of 17-5 WL (11 of that is knockout)

Caraballo can't defeat Sultan easily in the early rounds because Sultan is more aggressive than his opponent and the Filipino boxer has more experience than the Puerto Rican fighter and can become an advantage and can fight Caraballo toe-to-toe.

http://philboxing.com/news/story-158521.html

He can't as Sultan is an experienced fighter who can also knock him down.

If Caraballo fight lazy and thinks he can easily beat his opponent, he might be surprised with what Sultan may bring him.

We know that inside the ring, the fighter who prepared well is the one who have the advantage, upset can happened anytime

Sultan have that chance if Caraballo will not take care and let him go toe-to-toe.

We will support Sultan although his opponent is undeniably good based on his undefeated record, maybe Caraballo will have the toughest fight of his career against Sultan, and if Sultan wins this, it's another big win for him that might make him close to his dreams to be a champion.

If Sultan wins this fight, the door will be open once again with his career. It's very important since he's really aiming to have a dream title.

Caraballo needs to operate smoothly if he doesn't want to be beaten by this Pinoy fighter, for sure Caraballo's camp
is aware how tough Pinoy fighter is,

preparation is more likely much aggressive to make sure that they are ready to
any strategy Sultan camp may use against this undefeated fighter.

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Quote from: Kemarit on September 30, 2021, 11:00:02 PM

Quote from: Natalim on September 30, 2021, 07:49:51 AM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on September 30, 2021, 07:27:01 AM

Carlos Caraballo is undefeated and is definitely going to be a threat to Jonas Sultan. Both fighters have shown impressive performance in their last matches. Caraballo has a good rhythm I like. However, Sultan should not be overlooked or underestimated his got a lot to prove in this match.

He will not underestimate, in fact, he will train more as his opponent is not an easy one. Based on Garaballo's record, he beat all his opponents via KO.

He is 14-0 with 14 KO (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/773544)
Might be a little number of fights only, but that 14 KO is very impressive as only a few boxers have done that.

It might be very impressive on papers, but all he has beaten is not well recognized, or least have a bad records already. So if he steps up against Sultan is a big challenge for him to continue his winning streak. And Sultan hasn't lost on a knock out, all his defeat is by decision. So Caraballo needs to knock out this guy to continue his hype around his weight class. Otherwise if he losses, I would say that he is over rated and over hype. So if there is someone that needs not to underestimate, it is Caraballo because the pressure is on him.

I believe it will be the case because Sultan will not easily give up his dreams to get bigger fights in the future, and Sultan knows what when he will lose, he he will have to build his name again to be popular, and with the big contribution in the boxing world in terms of market, a rising boxer can't afford to lose.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 30, 2021, 07:49:51 AM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on September 30, 2021, 07:27:01 AM

Carlos Caraballo is undefeated and is definitely going to be a threat to Jonas Sultan. Both fighters have shown impressive performance in their last matches. Caraballo has a good rhythm I like. However, Sultan should not be overlooked or underestimated his got a lot to prove in this match.

He will not underestimate, in fact, he will train more as his opponent is not an easy one. Based on Garaballo's record, he beat all his opponents via KO.

He is 14-0 with 14 KO (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/773544)
Might be a little number of fights only, but that 14 KO is very impressive as only a few boxers have done that.

It might be very impressive on papers, but all he has beaten is not well recognized, or least have a bad records already. So if he steps up against Sultan is a big challenge for him to continue his winning streak. And Sultan hasn't lost on a knock out, all his defeat is by decision. So Caraballo needs to knock out this guy to continue his hype around his weight class. Otherwise if he losses, I would say that he is over rated and over hype. So if there is someone that needs not to underestimate, it is Caraballo because the pressure is on him.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on September 30, 2021, 07:27:01 AM

Carlos Caraballo is undefeated and is definitely going to be a threat to Jonas Sultan. Both fighters have shown impressive performance in their last matches. Caraballo has a good rhythm I like. However, Sultan should not be overlooked or underestimated his got a lot to prove in this match.

He will not underestimate, in fact, he will train more as his opponent is not an easy one. Based on Garaballo's record, he beat all his opponents via KO.

He is 14-0 with 14 KO (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/773544)
Might be a little number of fights only, but that 14 KO is very impressive as only a few boxers have done that.

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Carlos Caraballo is undefeated and is definitely going to be a threat to Jonas Sultan. Both fighters have shown impressive performance in their last matches. Caraballo has a good rhythm I like. However, Sultan should not be overlooked or underestimated his got a lot to prove in this match.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on September 30, 2021, 06:16:18 AM

Quote from: Rufsilf on September 29, 2021, 09:56:05 PM

IMO, indeed Caraballo is one of the strongest fighter in his time with a record of 14-0 all by knockout but I don't think he has the advantage with the Filipino boxer with a record of 17-5 WL (11 of that is knockout)

Caraballo can't defeat Sultan easily in the early rounds because Sultan is more aggressive than his opponent and the Filipino boxer has more experience than the Puerto Rican fighter and can become an advantage and can fight Caraballo toe-to-toe.

http://philboxing.com/news/story-158521.html

He can't as Sultan is an experienced fighter who can also knock him down.

If Caraballo fight lazy and thinks he can easily beat his opponent, he might be surprised with what Sultan may bring him.

We know that inside the ring, the fighter who prepared well is the one who have the advantage, upset can happened anytime

Sultan have that chance if Caraballo will not take care and let him go toe-to-toe.

We will support Sultan although his opponent is undeniably good based on his undefeated record, maybe Caraballo will have the toughest fight of his career against Sultan, and if Sultan wins this, it's another big win for him that might make him close to his dreams to be a champion.

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Quote from: Rufsilf on September 29, 2021, 09:56:05 PM

IMO, indeed Caraballo is one of the strongest fighter in his time with a record of 14-0 all by knockout but I don't think he has the advantage with the Filipino boxer with a record of 17-5 WL (11 of that is knockout)

Caraballo can't defeat Sultan easily in the early rounds because Sultan is more aggressive than his opponent and the Filipino boxer has more experience than the Puerto Rican fighter and can become an advantage and can fight Caraballo toe-to-toe.

http://philboxing.com/news/story-158521.html

He can't as Sultan is an experienced fighter who can also knock him down.

If Caraballo fight lazy and thinks he can easily beat his opponent, he might be surprised with what Sultan may bring him.

We know that inside the ring, the fighter who prepared well is the one who have the advantage, upset can happened anytime

Sultan have that chance if Caraballo will not take care and let him go toe-to-toe.

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I actually think on the contrary Jonas Sultan will increase his motivation in boxing because he got the best card in boxing against Caraballo, despite the fact that in the ring Caraballo is almost on average beating his opponent under the fifth round and he always carries a trophy.

It's true that Caraballo's career in the boxing arena has not been defeated, but I think Jonas Sultan should train even harder to fight Caraballo, October 30th this is the right and good opportunity to lift Jonas Sultan's career in boxing, I'm not siding with Jonas Sultan, I remember LEWIS beat TYSON back then, all can turn around not as we imagine, factor.

I'll wait for the betting odds before I will make a conclusion, Sultan might be the underdog here because he is not a champion and his opponent has a great record, so it's again an opportunity to beat the underdog as we all know that Filipino boxers are quality boxers, and the fact that he is working under MP promotion, it adds some confidence.

Caraballo is definitely will be the favorite of bookies here. However, we don't know how much gap they will give to these 2. So if the odds are high on Sultan, may be better to bet on him especially if the odds on Caraballo will be like 1.0x. These days, everyone can make an upset if he is truly prepared for the fight. So we can't really be sure here even if Caraballo has very good record and more popular than Sultan.

Jonas Sultan with so much losses and not so attractive statistics

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Jonas Sultan
Statistics
Real name   Jonas Andaya Sultan
Nickname(s)   "One Punch"
Weight(s)   Junior bantamweight
Height   5 ft 4 in (1.63 m)
Nationality   Filipino
Born   16 December 1991 (age 29)
Tampilisan, Zamboanga del Norte, Philippines
Stance   Orthodox
Boxing record
Total fights   21
Wins   16
Wins by KO   10
Losses   5

Look at the losses? 5 losses in 16 wins ? this is not that good to expect for someone who will be facing this statistics

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Carlos Caeaballo = Pro Boxing Record: 14-0-0 (Win-Loss-Draw)

14 complete wins recorded , no losses to draws .

I'm afraid that Sultan has any advantage in this bout.

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Quote from: mirakal on September 11, 2021, 08:45:13 AM

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Rising Filipino boxer Jonas Sultan takes on Carlos Caraballo, the Puerto Rican sensation who has beaten all his opponents by knockout

On paper, Carlos Caraballo appears to be a monster. A perfect 14-0 slate and all by knockout.

For Jonas Sultan, however, ring record hardly matters.

source:
https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/jonas-sultan-tangles-with-fight-carlos-caraballo-october-2021

Boxrec records.
Carlos Caraballo
14-0
Jonas Sultan
17-5 (win-loss)

Sultan is under the MP promotion now and he will fight an undefeated fighter who has a 100% KO rate.
What do you think his chances against the Puerto Rican in this fight?

IMO, indeed Caraballo is one of the strongest fighter in his time with a record of 14-0 all by knockout but I don't think he has the advantage with the Filipino boxer with a record of 17-5 WL (11 of that is knockout)

Caraballo can't defeat Sultan easily in the early rounds because Sultan is more aggressive than his opponent and the Filipino boxer has more experience than the Puerto Rican fighter and can become an advantage and can fight Caraballo toe-to-toe.

http://philboxing.com/news/story-158521.html

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 26, 2021, 11:08:34 PM

Until they start throwing punches we can't tell who's really better between the two, as even thereare available data but fighters

always have surprises when already inside the ring.

I agree if Sultan can take Caraballo's punch and frustrate him just like what he did to Casimero, Caraballo is in big trouble, I consider Sultan to be a more technical fighter he is always not in a hurry to knock out his opponent always patient and wait for the right moment to deliver his big punches, I'm on Sultan on this fight.

Correct he is not an aggressive fighter not like Casimero , and this is why i like Sultan's strategy and skills .

Actually i watched most of His recent fight and i think he has a chance winning against Caraballo.

but the Odds are still not available though there is still 1 month for this to take place so maybe in the next few weeks it will happen.

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