[Boxing]: Lomachenko vs Commey - December 11 - page 10.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 08, 2021, 06:30:07 PM

^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

Maybe Lopez is waiting for Loma to age, he is already 33 years old, others may say that this is the age wherein boxers started to decline, but there could be argument that he is still in his prime.

So Lopez might be looking at Loma's performance against Commey here, if he sees that Loma is no longer at his peak then maybe he will give him a rematch. Unless the government bodies are going to force Lopez to defend against his mandatory Loma or be strip or his belt.

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^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on November 08, 2021, 09:50:02 AM

Quote from: Maslate on November 08, 2021, 09:26:55 AM

True he has more experience as it can be measured by the number of fights, however, the reason why Loma is more popular is because of the quality of fights he had and how he was able to win them. But I would say that Richard Commey has an impressive record as well, 27 KO out of 30 fights, that's something.

I just saw this on my feed Teofimo Lopez still consider Loma the best lightweight in the world and he can beat all the top names in the lightweight division, Lopez knows how tough Loma and he is giving him respect and now Commey will find out how great Loma is when they fought, Commey is a huge underdog here even though he is a knock out artist I don't think he can deliver a big punch against Loma.

That's new from Teofimo Lopez, and him saying that I realized he still thinks that he is better than Loma and probably think also that he can beat the fighters he mentioned in his statement that Loma could beat... I like this guy ( Lopez), he knows how to choose his word, so how about him giving Loma a rematch so he'll be part of the list.

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Quote from: Maslate on November 08, 2021, 09:26:55 AM

True he has more experience as it can be measured by the number of fights, however, the reason why Loma is more popular is because of the quality of fights he had and how he was able to win them. But I would say that Richard Commey has an impressive record as well, 27 KO out of 30 fights, that's something.

I just saw this on my feed Teofimo Lopez still consider Loma the best lightweight in the world and he can beat all the top names in the lightweight division, Lopez knows how tough Loma and he is giving him respect and now Commey will find out how great Loma is when they fought, Commey is a huge underdog here even though he is a knock out artist I don't think he can deliver a big punch against Loma.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 08, 2021, 08:00:46 AM

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on November 08, 2021, 03:53:28 AM

Commey stats are very impressive wins 30 with 27 KO'ed from 33 matches, but looking from which boxer his fight most of them were amateur boxer. The interesting part both of them have fought with Lopez, Lomachenko lost with unanimous decision result while Commey lost got TKO'ed by Lopez in round 2. I think we can draw the conclusion Lomachenko will win this fight, probably 70-85%.

That would probably happen since Loma has already taken the lead by fight experiences. However, slight chances that anything can happen in the ring especially when your opponent can change tactic anytime he feels threatened and distances himself to avoid power punches just like how the fight turned out with Casimero and Rigondeaux where he was nearly defeated by Rigondeaux with his runaway tactic. This could happen to Loma but with other tactics that his opponent has been practising till the fight.

I'm sure that is not the reason, in terms of fight experience, Richard Commey has more because he got 30 fights already in his professional career while Lomachenko only has 15 of half of Richard Commey total fights.

We can check their records ;
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/563751
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771

True he has more experience as it can be measured by the number of fights, however, the reason why Loma is more popular is because of the quality of fights he had and how he was able to win them. But I would say that Richard Commey has an impressive record as well, 27 KO out of 30 fights, that's something.

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Quote from: yazher on November 08, 2021, 06:36:30 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on November 08, 2021, 03:53:28 AM

Commey stats are very impressive wins 30 with 27 KO'ed from 33 matches, but looking from which boxer his fight most of them were amateur boxer. The interesting part both of them have fought with Lopez, Lomachenko lost with unanimous decision result while Commey lost got TKO'ed by Lopez in round 2. I think we can draw the conclusion Lomachenko will win this fight, probably 70-85%.

That would probably happen since Loma has already taken the lead by fight experiences. However, slight chances that anything can happen in the ring especially when your opponent can change tactic anytime he feels threatened and distances himself to avoid power punches just like how the fight turned out with Casimero and Rigondeaux where he was nearly defeated by Rigondeaux with his runaway tactic. This could happen to Loma but with other tactics that his opponent has been practising till the fight.

I'm sure that is not the reason, in terms of fight experience, Richard Commey has more because he got 30 fights already in his professional career while Lomachenko only has 15 of half of Richard Commey total fights.

We can check their records ;
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/563751
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on November 08, 2021, 03:53:28 AM

Commey stats are very impressive wins 30 with 27 KO'ed from 33 matches, but looking from which boxer his fight most of them were amateur boxer. The interesting part both of them have fought with Lopez, Lomachenko lost with unanimous decision result while Commey lost got TKO'ed by Lopez in round 2. I think we can draw the conclusion Lomachenko will win this fight, probably 70-85%.

That would probably happen since Loma has already taken the lead by fight experiences. However, slight chances that anything can happen in the ring especially when your opponent can change tactic anytime he feels threatened and distances himself to avoid power punches just like how the fight turned out with Casimero and Rigondeaux where he was nearly defeated by Rigondeaux with his runaway tactic. This could happen to Loma but with other tactics that his opponent has been practising till the fight.

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Quote from: tippytoes on November 07, 2021, 06:10:54 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on November 07, 2021, 04:35:26 PM

The opening odds are ;

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
Loma and Commey have agreed to a deal to fight on December 11th, after the Heisman Trophy presentation.
At +300, this is only the fourth time in Commey’s career that he’s opened as a betting underdog. He lost the previous three instances.

https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/

If the trend will continue, then most likely Commey will lose and this will be his 4th loss being listed as the underdog in a fight.
Loma is back, that's what I can say because he really look so impressive in his last fight and that's the reason why I like to see him have a rematch with Lopez and I'm pretty sure the outcome would not be the same.

If Loma will win over Commey, high likelihood that he will ask for Lopez rematch. So in order to make it happen, I am seeing that Loma will not underestimate Commey here even if he is the underdog, as he needs a sure win to get the rematch. This match is still not listed in crypto bookies but if fiat bookies are already starting to give their odds, we may see this in crypto bookies in these coming weeks.

Loma would want that rematch or sure, but Lopez seems reluctant and thinks that rematch is not necessary anymore.

This was his statement per this article https://www.boxingscene.com/lopez-on-lomachenko-rematch-what-same-thing-happen-again--152568

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Lopez On Lomachenko Rematch: For What? Same Thing Will Happen Again

He is so sure that he will win, but honestly, I still like to see a rematch and I would definitely bet on a humble fighter and that is not Lopez.

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Commey stats are very impressive wins 30 with 27 KO'ed from 33 matches, but looking from which boxer his fight most of them were amateur boxer. The interesting part both of them have fought with Lopez, Lomachenko lost with unanimous decision result while Commey lost got TKO'ed by Lopez in round 2. I think we can draw the conclusion Lomachenko will win this fight, probably 70-85%.

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Quote from: Finestream on November 08, 2021, 01:18:00 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on November 02, 2021, 03:03:09 AM

Great, Lomachenko is back again for another fight this year. I thought he will rest until the end of this year after winning against Nakatani. So, I would say they are both getting ready to get revenge since they are both defeated against Lopez in 2019 and 2020 respectively.
But before that fight will happen, one of them should be held winner to advance and get revenge against Teofimo Lopez.

RC Commey has the height and reach advantage and yes a decent fighter too, but on this match I don't think that he can beat Loma's timing techniques, speed and strength. Sadly, Commey will just be a stepping stone for Loma since Loma is really looking forward revenge his defeat against Lopez.

Loma certainly has the edge here, in fact, AFAIR, there's no fight of his that he was an underdog, he always gets listed as the favorite to win, just like this fight. After he lose against Teofimo Lopez, I'm sure he trained harder to continue achieving his dream, and maybe one day he would become an undisputed champion in his division like Canelo had recently achieved.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 02, 2021, 03:03:09 AM

Great, Lomachenko is back again for another fight this year. I thought he will rest until the end of this year after winning against Nakatani. So, I would say they are both getting ready to get revenge since they are both defeated against Lopez in 2019 and 2020 respectively.
But before that fight will happen, one of them should be held winner to advance and get revenge against Teofimo Lopez.

RC Commey has the height and reach advantage and yes a decent fighter too, but on this match I don't think that he can beat Loma's timing techniques, speed and strength. Sadly, Commey will just be a stepping stone for Loma since Loma is really looking forward revenge his defeat against Lopez.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 07, 2021, 08:41:21 PM

Commey is a decent to good fighter, but he is no much to Loma at this point. Loma is really very focus on regaining all his belts and Commey is just one fighter that he needs to dispose off and then get it all back from Lopez.

Yes, I agree. All these fights for Loma are considered minor ones, the ones he needs to go through to face Teofimo once again. Commey is just one piece of the puzzle, a stepping stone. This is the road to Lopez really. Loma won't allow Lopez to just get away with that. He will definitely have his revenge. Lopez is still the ultimate goal here. But I doubt the result will be any different if Loma will not change his strategy against Lopez. The last time they met, it was very obvious Teofimo was the better boxer.

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Quote from: freedomgo on November 07, 2021, 04:35:26 PM

The opening odds are ;

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
Loma and Commey have agreed to a deal to fight on December 11th, after the Heisman Trophy presentation.
At +300, this is only the fourth time in Commey’s career that he’s opened as a betting underdog. He lost the previous three instances.

https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/

If the trend will continue, then most likely Commey will lose and this will be his 4th loss being listed as the underdog in a fight.
Loma is back, that's what I can say because he really look so impressive in his last fight and that's the reason why I like to see him have a rematch with Lopez and I'm pretty sure the outcome would not be the same.

He is already healthy no more effects of that shoulder injury as we have seen that he is back to his old form of being so technical against a bigger Nakatani. He as so impressive that he looks for another match within the year and it will be Richard Commey.

Commey is a decent to good fighter, but he is no much to Loma at this point. Loma is really very focus on regaining all his belts and Commey is just one fighter that he needs to dispose off and then get it all back from Lopez.

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Quote from: freedomgo on November 07, 2021, 04:35:26 PM

The opening odds are ;

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
Loma and Commey have agreed to a deal to fight on December 11th, after the Heisman Trophy presentation.
At +300, this is only the fourth time in Commey’s career that he’s opened as a betting underdog. He lost the previous three instances.

https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/

If the trend will continue, then most likely Commey will lose and this will be his 4th loss being listed as the underdog in a fight.
Loma is back, that's what I can say because he really look so impressive in his last fight and that's the reason why I like to see him have a rematch with Lopez and I'm pretty sure the outcome would not be the same.

If Loma will win over Commey, high likelihood that he will ask for Lopez rematch. So in order to make it happen, I am seeing that Loma will not underestimate Commey here even if he is the underdog, as he needs a sure win to get the rematch. This match is still not listed in crypto bookies but if fiat bookies are already starting to give their odds, we may see this in crypto bookies in these coming weeks.

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The opening odds are ;

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
Loma and Commey have agreed to a deal to fight on December 11th, after the Heisman Trophy presentation.
At +300, this is only the fourth time in Commey’s career that he’s opened as a betting underdog. He lost the previous three instances.

https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/

If the trend will continue, then most likely Commey will lose and this will be his 4th loss being listed as the underdog in a fight.
Loma is back, that's what I can say because he really look so impressive in his last fight and that's the reason why I like to see him have a rematch with Lopez and I'm pretty sure the outcome would not be the same.

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Quote from: aioc on November 06, 2021, 12:47:50 AM

Both fighters are still in the prime of their career, and it's a big step back for the loser of this fight, so it's an important fight for both fighters, based on style wins and experience Loma has a big edge over Commey, Comney has problems with fighters who constantly moves and counter punch and Lomachecko is good on both, I don't think he can solve Loma's puzzle.

And I would also say that Commey has a weak chin as well. Lopez knock him down and put him into queer street because his chin didn't hold.

Loma's power is under rated, but if you look at his last fight, he knocks down a bigger guy in Nakatani. So technique and then the timing and the power favors Loma in this fight.

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Quote from: aioc on November 06, 2021, 12:47:50 AM

Both fighters are still in the prime of their career, and it's a big step back for the loser of this fight, so it's an important fight for both fighters, based on style wins and experience Loma has a big edge over Commey, Comney has problems with fighters who constantly moves and counter punch and Lomachecko is good on both, I don't think he can solve Loma's puzzle.

We haven't seen any fighters who have broke down Loma's technique, although he lost to Lopez, he has a heavy shoulder injury that time. And for the Salido lost, if I'm not mistaken it was his first or second fight of his career and Salido uses bad tactics that time to escape to a win. And I doubt that Commey has the boxing skills to beat a very robotic (in a nice way) Loma. Not sure how Commey will take advantage of his long reach his Loma will time that and he could be hit by a knock out punch.

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Both fighters are still in the prime of their career, and it's a big step back for the loser of this fight, so it's an important fight for both fighters, based on style wins and experience Loma has a big edge over Commey, Comney has problems with fighters who constantly moves and counter punch and Lomachecko is good on both, I don't think he can solve Loma's puzzle.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on November 04, 2021, 09:12:00 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on November 02, 2021, 03:03:09 AM

So Loma is back after his big win against Nakatani. And then time will be pitted against Richard Commey, a former champion.

Although we can argue that it seems that Loma is just fighting Teo Lopez left-over, but he is doing it more than Lopez though. Lopez has a difficult fight against Nakatani, but Loma just toyed with Nakatani and defeat him via TKO. So the pattern may continue here, I will have Loma winning by stoppage and the fight will not last 12 rounds.

Probably one of the most exciting matches that are still about to happen in this year. A fight of Lomachenko is always beautiful to watch because he is probably the best technical boxer at the moment and his footwork is outstanding and by far the best of any boxer that is active at the moment. That being said he lost a bit of his magic and his aura of being untouchable and unbeatable in his fight against Lopez that he lost quite clearly. I saw that fight back then and i was surprised how inactive Loma was because it looke to me as if he could have done way more during the fight but somehow he could not deliver. I'm glad that he won against Nakatani though and he is also the big favorite against Commey.

Yes, I also consider him one of the best technical boxers we have right now. Too technical, but you won't get bored on his fight. Because when we say technical fighters like Rigo comes into our mind, or Floyd. Defensive and technical fighter.

But Loma is not that kind of technical fighter, he is more of a defensive one, he is more of a offensive boxer and uses his foot placement to trap his opponents and for sure we are going to see it more here in the Commey fight.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 04, 2021, 09:01:31 AM

Quote from: mirakal on November 04, 2021, 08:26:03 AM

Quote from: Maslate on November 04, 2021, 07:54:39 AM

One last fight for Lomachenko this year, hopefully, he will be able to end it with another win.

This fight will happen in just over a month, so I'm wondering maybe the odds are already out now, anyone here has an idea what's the betting odds of this fight? Obviously, Lomachenko will be the favorites but I like to specifically know how favorite he is based on the line.

anyway, here are some information regarding the fight.
https://champinon.info/schedule/lomachenko-vs-commey/

It's too early to expect a betting odds for this fight, maybe by December it will be available, so let's just be patient. Besides, we know who to choose and obviously, it's Lomachenko as he is healthy and ready to dominate again.

Usually the odds are listed when the fight is very near, sometimes just a day before the actual fight.

But I do agree that it wll be Loma who will be the favorite here. No offense to Commey, he is a great boxer, become a world champion, but he is no match for Loma at his point. Loma is too versatile and very highly technical boxer. And Commey will look amateurish when he faces Loma.

Maybe just before this month ends, or even after couple of weeks from now.
Loma is a known boxer, so high likely sportsbooks will pick this up early.
And yes, Loma will be the favorite here. And the gap of odds maybe a little wide.
For Loma, I am guessing, it will be about 1.x for the odds. So let's see once the bookies rolled out their numbers here for this match.

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