[Boxing]: Lomachenko vs Commey - December 11 - page 8.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 16, 2021, 07:40:43 AM

If he was injured, he should have postponed the fight. Or take a risk and try to knockdown Lopez. Imho it was Lomachenko fault, that he let judges decide who is the winner. Btw, in wikipedia it is mentioned, that Lomachenko did not want to put a rematch clause in contract. That s why Lopez is so angry and dont want to give Lomachenko rematch. "Eye for an eye". Loma must do his best to get a chance to fight Lopez again.

He should but he prefer not to cancel the fight because probably he needed some money and that was a big fight although it was held during the pandemic. All these although could be true are just an excuse only, a real fighter should accept his defeat without an excuses as that's the way to respect the winner of the fight.

SO WORD IS LOMACHENKO CAME IN TO THE LOPEZ FIGHT WITH A BAD SHOULDER

We need to see the rematch so people will stop taking that as an excuse on what they still believe that Loma is better than Lopez.

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If he was injured, he should have postponed the fight. Or take a risk and try to knockdown Lopez. Imho it was Lomachenko fault, that he let judges decide who is the winner. Btw, in wikipedia it is mentioned, that Lomachenko did not want to put a rematch clause in contract. That s why Lopez is so angry and dont want to give Lomachenko rematch. "Eye for an eye". Loma must do his best to get a chance to fight Lopez again.

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This is a battle of who wants to get back and challenge Teofimo Lopez again, Lomachenko is the heavy favorite he still has it, still has that matrix-like speed, an impressive win against Commey will set up him again to whoever wins against Lopez and Kambosos, of course, Lopez wants to get back against Lopez because in his last fight he claim he was injured before the fight.

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I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

What needs to happen for these tiny (1.15) odds to change significantly? Is there any injury to Lomachenko or something like that? In this case, the fight will simply be postponed or canceled. The only thing I can imagine is a bad start for Loma and a change in live odds in favor of Commey, but this is extremely unlikely.

Yes, I don't see any wild swing in the odds as we near the fight and that odds could remain. On the contrary, maybe after the weigh-in, we might see the odds for Loma shrink.

Loma is healthy, no doubt that his shoulder injury has healed 100%. We can see a Loma back to his former when he fought Nakatani the movement and the punch output is already there.

After an impressive performance by Loma in his last fight, there's a reason why the bookies would make him a heavy favorite. People would just bet on Loma and that's the reason why bookies are just trying to balance the money since one needs to put a bigger bet in order to enjoy a decent profit, hence taking a high risk as well.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 14, 2021, 04:34:24 AM

I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

What needs to happen for these tiny (1.15) odds to change significantly? Is there any injury to Lomachenko or something like that? In this case, the fight will simply be postponed or canceled. The only thing I can imagine is a bad start for Loma and a change in live odds in favor of Commey, but this is extremely unlikely.

Yes, I don't see any wild swing in the odds as we near the fight and that odds could remain. On the contrary, maybe after the weigh-in, we might see the odds for Loma shrink.

Loma is healthy, no doubt that his shoulder injury has healed 100%. We can see a Loma back to his former when he fought Nakatani the movement and the punch output is already there.

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 14, 2021, 05:19:52 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 14, 2021, 04:34:24 AM

I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

What needs to happen for these tiny (1.15) odds to change significantly? Is there any injury to Lomachenko or something like that? In this case, the fight will simply be postponed or canceled. The only thing I can imagine is a bad start for Loma and a change in live odds in favor of Commey, but this is extremely unlikely.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 14, 2021, 09:58:25 AM

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Commey is a pure boxer, as you can see in his records, his ko % is higher than Loma, meaning he always goes for a knock out. However, if that plan didn't happen, it's hard to have another option against a great techinical boxer in Loma here. Obviously, Loma will be the huge favorite when the betting line open.

I am yet to watch a Richard Commey fight, since you said he is having more knockouts than decisions, i just check his profile, he has 27 KO in 30 fights, so he is a power puncher than a pure boxer. I like the fighting style of Vasiliy Lomachenko and he is a technical master and i am sure he can handle the power of Commey with his slick boxing and then go for a rematch against Teófimo López.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 14, 2021, 03:52:02 PM

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Quote from: Jating on November 14, 2021, 03:18:50 PM

We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..

That is his only fight this year if it will happen.

Loma will have his 2nd fight this year against Commey and if he wins this 2021 is a great year for Loma as he bounces back strong. While on the other hand, Lopez will be tested in his fight with Kambasos as his opponent is also undefeated and I feel he can match Lopez fairly in the ring, I expect an upset here actually. IMO, the most active boxer this year is Canelo Alvarez as he had fought 3 times this year.

Right, and I think he also wanted to send a message to Lopez here that he is really back after he defeated him and he has move forward facing two tough opponent in the division.

So if Loma wins in this fight against Commey, then Lopez can't hide next year. The fight should really be push, the ball is on Lopez court though, Loma is willing, but Lopez has so many excuses in his book.

As of now, Lopez has close his book for a possible rematch with Loma, but hopefully next year he will change his mind, of if he loses this fight, maybe Kambasos vs Loma would be great just to fulfill the excitement of the fans. If Loma wins, then that would close the discussion that he is the better fighter.

TEOFIMO LOPEZ AGAIN REFUSES TO GIVE VASYL LOMACHENKO A REMATCH

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 14, 2021, 03:43:47 PM

Quote from: Jating on November 14, 2021, 03:18:50 PM

We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..

That is his only fight this year if it will happen.

Loma will have his 2nd fight this year against Commey and if he wins this 2021 is a great year for Loma as he bounces back strong. While on the other hand, Lopez will be tested in his fight with Kambasos as his opponent is also undefeated and I feel he can match Lopez fairly in the ring, I expect an upset here actually. IMO, the most active boxer this year is Canelo Alvarez as he had fought 3 times this year.

Right, and I think he also wanted to send a message to Lopez here that he is really back after he defeated him and he has move forward facing two tough opponent in the division.

So if Loma wins in this fight against Commey, then Lopez can't hide next year. The fight should really be push, the ball is on Lopez court though, Loma is willing, but Lopez has so many excuses in his book.

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Quote from: Jating on November 14, 2021, 03:18:50 PM

We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..

That is his only fight this year if it will happen.

Loma will have his 2nd fight this year against Commey and if he wins this 2021 is a great year for Loma as he bounces back strong. While on the other hand, Lopez will be tested in his fight with Kambasos as his opponent is also undefeated and I feel he can match Lopez fairly in the ring, I expect an upset here actually. IMO, the most active boxer this year is Canelo Alvarez as he had fought 3 times this year.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on November 14, 2021, 02:49:47 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on November 02, 2021, 07:28:37 AM

So 2 fights this year for Lomachenko? indeed he might be thinking of regaining his previous position in the p2p lists. And it's a tough comeback road for him, but he is not taking it a lightly after that shoulder injury that causes him the title against Lopez. All roads though seems lead to Teofimo Lopez, so if he wanted to get his rematch, he has to do it the hard way. And I will go with the popular opinion here that Loma is going to win, maybe we just have to wait for the bookies to open up and see the odds.

If he wants to make a comeback then he has no other option to but to begin to fight more frequently, however it is yet to be seen if Teofimo Lopez will give him a chance, it seems they have personal problems that go beyond the ring as Teofimo accused the camp of Lomachenko of being disrespectful to him.

But in the case it happens Lomachenko will need to increase the amount of punches he throws as during their last fight Teofimo Lopez threw more than twice the number of punches he threw.

He has been fighting more frequently, he just beat Nakatani like 6 months ago if I'm not mistaken.

And then he is facing another great boxer and former champion in Richard Commey here. So there's no question that Loma is the more active fighter for this year. And has face the better opposition (although Lopez beat both of them already, but he has a hard time against a tall Nakatani. While Loma just toyed around and then knock out Nakatani).

We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..

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Quote from: TravelMug on November 02, 2021, 07:28:37 AM

So 2 fights this year for Lomachenko? indeed he might be thinking of regaining his previous position in the p2p lists. And it's a tough comeback road for him, but he is not taking it a lightly after that shoulder injury that causes him the title against Lopez. All roads though seems lead to Teofimo Lopez, so if he wanted to get his rematch, he has to do it the hard way. And I will go with the popular opinion here that Loma is going to win, maybe we just have to wait for the bookies to open up and see the odds.

If he wants to make a comeback then he has no other option to but to begin to fight more frequently, however it is yet to be seen if Teofimo Lopez will give him a chance, it seems they have personal problems that go beyond the ring as Teofimo accused the camp of Lomachenko of being disrespectful to him.

But in the case it happens Lomachenko will need to increase the amount of punches he throws as during their last fight Teofimo Lopez threw more than twice the number of punches he threw.

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Quote from: poldanmig on November 12, 2021, 01:36:08 AM

In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

Commey in a former champion, and so is Loma in the lightweight, but I don't consider this a close fight. Others might not agree with by I think this will be an easy fight for Loma. He is very technical and I don't think that Commey can cope with that and then his speed and power.

No, I don't find it an easy one for Loma, we've seen him lose against Lopez and though he was injured that time, Lopez was really good at competing with Loma, therefore I would say that he also has a weakness and he is not invincible. With Commey's experience, it's possible that he can beat Loma but of course the betting sites would make Loma the favorite because he is the better fighter, but that doesn't mean he would win.

You've said it already, Loma is injured that time. Yes, I believed that everyone has weakness, but if you're opponent doesn't know how to exploit it then it will negate everything. Commey is a pure boxer, as you can see in his records, his ko % is higher than Loma, meaning he always goes for a knock out. However, if that plan didn't happen, it's hard to have another option against a great techinical boxer in Loma here. Obviously, Loma will be the huge favorite when the betting line open.

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 14, 2021, 05:19:52 AM

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Quote from: poldanmig on November 12, 2021, 01:36:08 AM

The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin

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In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

That was a similar comment I read when Loma face Lopez, people thought that Loma would actually beat Lopez but what happened is the exact opposite of what the majority of people are thinking. This is a big test for Loma, if he'll win this fight, then for sure he will get a chance to have a rematch against Lopez which I'm pretty sure will be one of the biggest fights next year, or the winner of the Lopez vs Kambasos Jr.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 14, 2021, 04:34:24 AM

Quote from: poldanmig on November 12, 2021, 01:36:08 AM

The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin

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In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

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Quote from: poldanmig on November 12, 2021, 01:36:08 AM

The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin

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In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

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Quote from: Sanitough on November 13, 2021, 04:56:44 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on November 13, 2021, 04:20:42 PM

Well, Loma can make it an easy fight for him, we all know how good he is in adjusting. But the thing with Commey is that he has a long reach and Loma historically has difficulty in fighting boxers with that physically, like in the Jorge Linares fight wherein he suffered a flash knock down.

So it really depends on Loma, what will be his strategy and how he will read Commey in the first couple of rounds and then make the necessary adjustments to make the fight "easy" or at least he can control an dictate it.

He is good at making an adjustment in the fight, so he could do it but let's not be too complacent as Commey also has the experience, and in fact, he has more fights and his KO ratio is also good. I understand how people believe so much in Loma to win again, but as for me, I already have a little doubt on him unless he'll beat Teofimo Lopez in a rematch.

There's always this puncher's chance so yes, we don't count out Commey yet. He is a former champion, fought many great boxers in the past and has power.

But Loma is far more superior than any fighter in this division in my opinion. Loma's only lost in to Lopez but then again he was shoulder injury that time. But we can't do anything, and as much as we want to see a good rematch fight, Lopez refuses it and instead, go for his mandatory fight.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 02, 2021, 03:03:09 AM

Great, Lomachenko is back again for another fight this year. I thought he will rest until the end of this year after winning against Nakatani. So, I would say they are both getting ready to get revenge since they are both defeated against Lopez in 2019 and 2020 respectively.
But before that fight will happen, one of them should be held winner to advance and get revenge against Teofimo Lopez.

RC Commey has the height and reach advantage and yes a decent fighter too, but on this match I don't think that he can beat Loma's timing techniques, speed and strength. Sadly, Commey will just be a stepping stone for Loma since Loma is really looking forward revenge his defeat against Lopez.

Loma certainly has the edge here, in fact, AFAIR, there's no fight of his that he was an underdog, he always gets listed as the favorite to win, just like this fight. After he lose against Teofimo Lopez, I'm sure he trained harder to continue achieving his dream, and maybe one day he would become an undisputed champion in his division like Canelo had recently achieved.

Yup, Lomachenko is indeed a crowd favorite and @Finestream is right, Commey will just be probably a stepping stone for Loma to advance and can have a rematch against Lopez after this since Loma can't forget that he underwent a shoulder surgery after that fight and lose via unanimous decision.
But we'll see how Loma will fight this December 11 after that said surgery, hopefully he's fully recovered now and can fight again well.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 13, 2021, 04:20:42 PM

Well, Loma can make it an easy fight for him, we all know how good he is in adjusting. But the thing with Commey is that he has a long reach and Loma historically has difficulty in fighting boxers with that physically, like in the Jorge Linares fight wherein he suffered a flash knock down.

So it really depends on Loma, what will be his strategy and how he will read Commey in the first couple of rounds and then make the necessary adjustments to make the fight "easy" or at least he can control an dictate it.

He is good at making an adjustment in the fight, so he could do it but let's not be too complacent as Commey also has the experience, and in fact, he has more fights and his KO ratio is also good. I understand how people believe so much in Loma to win again, but as for me, I already have a little doubt on him unless he'll beat Teofimo Lopez in a rematch.

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