[Boxing]: Lomachenko vs Commey - December 11 - page 7.

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Quote from: paxmao on November 18, 2021, 08:58:28 AM

Odds seems to be in favour of the local guy, if you can call anyone local from NY. Vasyl, the Ucranian guy is a strong candidate and much harder in my view than others that have tried to get the title before, but beating a Japanese boxer is not really a credential is it? Richard Comey is at an advantage, at least psychological by playing in the US. And despite all that, still betting on Loma makes sense at current odds, as they seem to be too far on Richard's side.

Whether where Loma will fight, he will always be the favorite to win, and it's not new to him fighting in the US as majority of his fights happen in the US, we can check his full fight records here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771.

As per record, Commey has the experience and that is his only advantage as far as I can see, so I'm not surprised that Loma here is a heavy favorite.

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.

https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/

True, although Loma is not stateside, Arum was able to bring his talent to the US soil and boy we did witnessed one of the greatest amateur turn into professional and become of the boxing greats in recent time.

So there is no surprised that he is the heavy favorite here against Commey, although RC is also a former world champion, but the A-side of this fight is still Loma.

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Quote from: paxmao on November 18, 2021, 08:58:28 AM

Odds seems to be in favour of the local guy, if you can call anyone local from NY. Vasyl, the Ucranian guy is a strong candidate and much harder in my view than others that have tried to get the title before, but beating a Japanese boxer is not really a credential is it? Richard Comey is at an advantage, at least psychological by playing in the US. And despite all that, still betting on Loma makes sense at current odds, as they seem to be too far on Richard's side.

Whether where Loma will fight, he will always be the favorite to win, and it's not new to him fighting in the US as majority of his fights happen in the US, we can check his full fight records here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771.

As per record, Commey has the experience and that is his only advantage as far as I can see, so I'm not surprised that Loma here is a heavy favorite.

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.

https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/

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We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..

That is his only fight this year if it will happen.

Loma will have his 2nd fight this year against Commey and if he wins this 2021 is a great year for Loma as he bounces back strong. While on the other hand, Lopez will be tested in his fight with Kambasos as his opponent is also undefeated and I feel he can match Lopez fairly in the ring, I expect an upset here actually. IMO, the most active boxer this year is Canelo Alvarez as he had fought 3 times this year.

Right, and I think he also wanted to send a message to Lopez here that he is really back after he defeated him and he has move forward facing two tough opponent in the division.

So if Loma wins in this fight against Commey, then Lopez can't hide next year. The fight should really be push, the ball is on Lopez court though, Loma is willing, but Lopez has so many excuses in his book.

As of now, Lopez has close his book for a possible rematch with Loma, but hopefully next year he will change his mind, of if he loses this fight, maybe Kambasos vs Loma would be great just to fulfill the excitement of the fans. If Loma wins, then that would close the discussion that he is the better fighter.

TEOFIMO LOPEZ AGAIN REFUSES TO GIVE VASYL LOMACHENKO A REMATCH

This is why I think it is going to be difficult to see that fight, I really do not think that Lopez is tying to avoid Lomachenko, we know that fighters say a lot of things to try to hype up the fight but as soon as it is over they give each other a hug and then they give praise to their opponent on the post-fight interviews.

However it seems to me the problems of Lopez and Lomachenko are real and this means Lopez will do everything he can to not give Lomachenko a chance at challenging him for his titles.

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Quote from: Jating on November 18, 2021, 03:46:35 AM

Why would you bet on ML for Loma?

Doesn't make sense as he is the favourite to win against Commey, but there is still an element of surprise by the chance is very very slim against a technical boxer like Loma.

So the best odds for us is the totals maybe or the handicap, (which round it is going to end), or maybe the odds for a Loma decision win is also very good.

If you are aiming for higher odds picking the decision or which rounds the fight might end is a good alternative, though like what you just said, surprise might also happened, we don't know the very outcome and those who are in favor of Commey will bet for him no matter what, if they win the odds will probably give them bigger money to take.

If they lose, it's their choice to play with their cards, it's just not the lucky day for them Roll Eyes

and those who have huge amount to stake ML is still good small odd with huge amount of stake still considerable winnings. Cool

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Odds seems to be in favour of the local guy, if you can call anyone local from NY. Vasyl, the Ucranian guy is a strong candidate and much harder in my view than others that have tried to get the title before, but beating a Japanese boxer is not really a credential is it? Richard Comey is at an advantage, at least psychological by playing in the US. And despite all that, still betting on Loma makes sense at current odds, as they seem to be too far on Richard's side.

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Why would you bet on ML for Loma?

Doesn't make sense as he is the favourite to win against Commey, but there is still an element of surprise by the chance is very very slim against a technical boxer like Loma.

So the best odds for us are the totals maybe or the handicap, (which round it is going to end), or maybe the odds for a Loma decision win is also very good.

I'm also in favor of Loma because I've seen and watched his previous fights and I must say that he's too unpredictable on the right because he has surprising moves. It seems like he studied hard to counter his opponent's punches. I'm still rooting for him this time.

You are obviously, but will you bet for Loma to win with lower odds?

As posted above, the odds was just around 1.15 and that means you'll risk $100 to win $15 only? does not feel reasonable for you?

In my case, I would not take the ML, instead, I'll look for other odds which should be higher than 1.89.

I would not bet with that odds because I have a limited bankroll only.

Although Loma is likely to win it's not guaranteed that he will win, maybe give the underdog some handicap so odds we can get decent odds. A $15 win from $100 bet, but a $1500 win from $10,000 is very attractive, however, not most of us can afford to risk that amount.

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Quote from: Cling18 on November 18, 2021, 06:46:25 AM

Quote from: Jating on November 18, 2021, 03:46:35 AM

Why would you bet on ML for Loma?

Doesn't make sense as he is the favourite to win against Commey, but there is still an element of surprise by the chance is very very slim against a technical boxer like Loma.

So the best odds for us are the totals maybe or the handicap, (which round it is going to end), or maybe the odds for a Loma decision win is also very good.

I'm also in favor of Loma because I've seen and watched his previous fights and I must say that he's too unpredictable on the right because he has surprising moves. It seems like he studied hard to counter his opponent's punches. I'm still rooting for him this time.

You are obviously, but will you bet for Loma to win with lower odds?

As posted above, the odds was just around 1.15 and that means you'll risk $100 to win $15 only? does not feel reasonable for you?

In my case, I would not take the ML, instead, I'll look for other odds which should be higher than 1.89.

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Quote from: Jating on November 18, 2021, 03:46:35 AM

Why would you bet on ML for Loma?

Doesn't make sense as he is the favourite to win against Commey, but there is still an element of surprise by the chance is very very slim against a technical boxer like Loma.

So the best odds for us are the totals maybe or the handicap, (which round it is going to end), or maybe the odds for a Loma decision win is also very good.

I'm also in favor of Loma because I've seen and watched his previous fights and I must say that he's too unpredictable on the right because he has surprising moves. It seems like he studied hard to counter his opponent's punches. I'm still rooting for him this time.

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Quote from: Questat on November 17, 2021, 05:41:15 PM

Let's wait for the betting odds to be available as betting on the ML for Loma does not make sense unless you have huge capital.

If you are looking for attractive odds, betting on KO in a specific range of rounds would be the answer, mostly, the round ranges are per 3 rounds, you just have to make a good guess and put your money, or bet on Loma winning by decision, maybe that is higher than the 1.15 odds.

I don't chase high odds as it increases the risk of losing. I try not to take risks, so it is more important for me to increase my deposit a little than to take a risk and lose a part of my deposit in case of losing.

Calculate how much the probability of winning decreases when betting on one of the ranges of rounds and if you are satisfied with such risks, then place this bet.

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Why would you bet on ML for Loma?

Doesn't make sense as he is the favourite to win against Commey, but there is still an element of surprise by the chance is very very slim against a technical boxer like Loma.

So the best odds for us is the totals maybe or the handicap, (which round it is going to end), or maybe the odds for a Loma decision win is also very good.

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^^ Yeah, a ML bet fo Loma here will yield you small win unless you bet 6 digits minimum.

But for us mere mortals and average bettors, it's not possible.

What we want is at least a better odds for us, like KO win, or which round Loma will stop Commey and score the knock down.

There's also the round range which also gives us a good return odds. So just be smart when we bet and for sure we will win some at the end of the day.

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I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

What needs to happen for these tiny (1.15) odds to change significantly? Is there any injury to Lomachenko or something like that? In this case, the fight will simply be postponed or canceled. The only thing I can imagine is a bad start for Loma and a change in live odds in favor of Commey, but this is extremely unlikely.

The odds will not change much as Vasiliy Lomachenko is the favorite in this fight and everybody understands it. I think that we will see the first knockout in 6-7 rounds, and after it the fight will end with knockout. As I already wrote this fight is a good one to almost risklessly increase your bet by 15%.

Let's wait for the betting odds to be available as betting on the ML for Loma does not make sense unless you have huge capital.

If you are looking for attractive odds, betting on KO in a specific range of rounds would be the answer, mostly, the round ranges are per 3 rounds, you just have to make a good guess and put your money, or bet on Loma winning by decision, maybe that is higher than the 1.15 odds.

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I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

What needs to happen for these tiny (1.15) odds to change significantly? Is there any injury to Lomachenko or something like that? In this case, the fight will simply be postponed or canceled. The only thing I can imagine is a bad start for Loma and a change in live odds in favor of Commey, but this is extremely unlikely.

The odds will not change much as Vasiliy Lomachenko is the favorite in this fight and everybody understands it. I think that we will see the first knockout in 6-7 rounds, and after it the fight will end with knockout. As I already wrote this fight is a good one to almost risklessly increase your bet by 15%.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 17, 2021, 08:44:52 AM

If they'll do a rematch, it will be Lopez who will dictate the terms as he is in the place of Loma now when they first meet, and if Loma is really interested to redeem himself, he should accept even if the offer is low because if he wins the fight, that would lose the value of Lopez and he'll be at the top again.

People are still asking to see a rematch, they should give it a chance of happening for the sake of the fans.

Possible when they run out of opponents and beat everyone on their way to fight each other. Of course, the fans wanted to see the fight between them again to give Loma a chance to redeem himself and so that Lopez will prove to everyone that he is the best in their division. But as we know, it's all up to Lopez if he still wanted to gamble his record since he is already done with Loma.

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^^ Exactly this, there are still a lot of fights in 135 lbs that will make Lopez a ton of money.

After what he says, he is the top dog of this division, then why left and move up when there are a lot of unfinished business?

It seems to be that he is really trying to get away and not to give Loma his deserving rematch.

Maybe him and his father really hated the guy so much that they don't want to give him another good pay check.

Perhaps, but you know what, they are asking about $1m in the fight against Loma, but Loma doesn't want to give them to them. Not sure if the $1m had been given coming from Bob's purse personally.

But in any case, Loma really leave a bad taste from the Lopez's that's why when Teofimo beat him, they refuses any talk of a rematch.

But we all know that boxing is a business and everyone has a price, if he will be offered more money in the table, then maybe he will change his mind and will give Loma his rematch.

If they'll do a rematch, it will be Lopez who will dictate the terms as he is in the place of Loma now when they first meet, and if Loma is really interested to redeem himself, he should accept even if the offer is low because if he wins the fight, that would lose the value of Lopez and he'll be at the top again.

People are still asking to see a rematch, they should give it a chance of happening for the sake of the fans.

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Quote from: btc_angela on November 17, 2021, 01:41:21 AM

^^ Exactly this, there are still a lot of fights in 135 lbs that will make Lopez a ton of money.

After what he says, he is the top dog of this division, then why left and move up when there are a lot of unfinished business?

It seems to be that he is really trying to get away and not to give Loma his deserving rematch.

Maybe him and his father really hated the guy so much that they don't want to give him another good pay check.

Perhaps, but you know what, they are asking about $1m in the fight against Loma, but Loma doesn't want to give them to them. Not sure if the $1m had been given coming from Bob's purse personally.

But in any case, Loma really leave a bad taste from the Lopez's that's why when Teofimo beat him, they refuses any talk of a rematch.

But we all know that boxing is a business and everyone has a price, if he will be offered more money in the table, then maybe he will change his mind and will give Loma his rematch.

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Quote from: smyslov on November 15, 2021, 10:57:42 AM

.... of course, Lopez wants to get back against Lopez because in his last fight he claim he was injured before the fight.

Do you mean Loma? Well, he would like a rematch but Lopez is not interested anymore, so there's nothing he can do but to find another opponent and keep winning and hope that maybe one day if Lopez keeps winning too they will meet again.

https://www.dazn.com/en-PH/news/boxing/teofimo-lopez-not-interested-in-rematch-with-vasiliy-lomachenko/3l0qobwvooax1wcubshyb93kj

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^^ Exactly this, there are still a lot of fights in 135 lbs that will make Lopez a ton of money.

After what he says, he is the top dog of this division, then why left and move up when there are a lot of unfinished business?

It seems to be that he is really trying to get away and not to give Loma his deserving rematch.

Maybe him and his father really hated the guy so much that they don't want to give him another good pay check.

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Quote from: smyslov on November 15, 2021, 10:57:42 AM

This is a battle of who wants to get back and challenge Teofimo Lopez again, Lomachenko is the heavy favorite he still has it, still has that matrix-like speed, an impressive win against Commey will set up him again to whoever wins against Lopez and Kambosos, of course, Lopez wants to get back against Lopez because in his last fight he claim he was injured before the fight.

We are not sure if the fight will happen of the winner between Lopez and Kambosos and Loma vs Commey.

As others have said, Lopez doesn't want to give Loma a rematch and Lopez hinted in his interview that he might go to 140 lbs and have a superfight with Josh Taylor, the unified champion.

Lopez is chasing big fights and that's what he wanted. Though if the offer for a Loma rematch will be huge, maybe he can't refuse it.

Well a Josh Taylor fight at 140 lbs makes sense, Lopez will make history and then there will be a lot of money in the table for Lopez.

And it's easy to made since Taylor sign with Bob Arum prior to his unification fight with Jose Ramirez.

But boxing wise, there's a lot of unfinished business in this division, Garcia, Davis and Haney to name a few and then a rematch with Loma is also good for this career, money wise.

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Quote from: smyslov on November 15, 2021, 10:57:42 AM

This is a battle of who wants to get back and challenge Teofimo Lopez again, Lomachenko is the heavy favorite he still has it, still has that matrix-like speed, an impressive win against Commey will set up him again to whoever wins against Lopez and Kambosos, of course, Lopez wants to get back against Lopez because in his last fight he claim he was injured before the fight.

We are not sure if the fight will happen of the winner between Lopez and Kambosos and Loma vs Commey.

As others have said, Lopez doesn't want to give Loma a rematch and Lopez hinted in his interview that he might go to 140 lbs and have a superfight with Josh Taylor, the unified champion.

Lopez is chasing big fights and that's what he wanted. Though if the offer for a Loma rematch will be huge, maybe he can't refuse it.

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