they are both equally strong enough but there is something in common here that they have been defeated by the same boxer.
but on the other hand Loma wanted to regain the position he had left before.
but on the other hand at this time his body condition was not too fit before, especially when he had experienced an injury that was enough to make him have to rest for a while and of course this would make his performance a little less than usual.
Topic: [Boxing]: Lomachenko vs Commey - December 11 - page 9. (Read 1080 times)
In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played
Commey in a former champion, and so is Loma in the lightweight, but I don't consider this a close fight. Others might not agree with by I think this will be an easy fight for Loma. He is very technical and I don't think that Commey can cope with that and then his speed and power.
No, I don't find it an easy one for Loma, we've seen him lose against Lopez and though he was injured that time, Lopez was really good at competing with Loma, therefore I would say that he also has a weakness and he is not invincible. With Commey's experience, it's possible that he can beat Loma but of course the betting sites would make Loma the favorite because he is the better fighter, but that doesn't mean he would win.
Well, Loma can make it an easy fight for him, we all know how good he is in adjusting. But the thing with Commey is that he has a long reach and Loma historically has difficulty in fighting boxers with that physically, like in the Jorge Linares fight wherein he suffered a flash knock down.
So it really depends on Loma, what will be his strategy and how he will read Commey in the first couple of rounds and then make the necessary adjustments to make the fight "easy" or at least he can control an dictate it.
Wasn't Nicholas Walters a knockout artist and could not land nothing being heavy handed is one thing but you gotta land. I only see teo land body shots and he hits like a mule to I got Loma on points but you never know in boxing. Hopefully Loma gets his rematch with Lopez. Man, I never heard that comment from Lopez after the Nakatani fight only picking fighters his height.
That's true, Walters knockout Donaire, but he can't land a single blow against Loma and then quit on his stool, Lol. A power puncher who says 'no mas' to the great Loma because he is frustrated.
The Lopez fight is very different though, now we understand why Loma fight very odd against Lopez is because he had that shoulder injury.
Lopez said he doesn't want to fight taller fighters no more like Nakatani. But look at what Loma did to Nakatani when they fought.
Wasn't Nicholas Walters a knockout artist and could not land nothing being heavy handed is one thing but you gotta land. I only see teo land body shots and he hits like a mule to I got Loma on points but you never know in boxing. Hopefully Loma gets his rematch with Lopez. Man, I never heard that comment from Lopez after the Nakatani fight only picking fighters his height.
In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played
Commey in a former champion, and so is Loma in the lightweight, but I don't consider this a close fight. Others might not agree with by I think this will be an easy fight for Loma. He is very technical and I don't think that Commey can cope with that and then his speed and power.
No, I don't find it an easy one for Loma, we've seen him lose against Lopez and though he was injured that time, Lopez was really good at competing with Loma, therefore I would say that he also has a weakness and he is not invincible. With Commey's experience, it's possible that he can beat Loma but of course the betting sites would make Loma the favorite because he is the better fighter, but that doesn't mean he would win.
The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December 
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. Of course, you can't compare the two fights, this is real boxing. And we have the great Loma, one of the best pound for pound.
In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played
Commey in a former champion, and so is Loma in the lightweight, but I don't consider this a close fight. Others might not agree with by I think this will be an easy fight for Loma. He is very technical and I don't think that Commey can cope with that and then his speed and power.
The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December .
.Of course. Because we have here two professional champions and in case of Paul - we have a match to make money (for sponsors and for those who will fight)
In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played
I think that favour is on Lomachenko side. My IMHO. (more like my hope, because Lomachenko is slav
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I am definitely rooting for Vasyl Lomachenko as I believe that Richard Commey will not be able to stand all the rounds against him. In my opinion this fight is a guaranteed way to increase my deposit. It is a pity that the bookmakers are giving too low odds to win Lomachenko.
Well, the bookies need to make the money and they know for a fact that Loma is the favorite of this bout so what better thing to do than lower the odds on Lomachenko so they can secure large sums of profit. Lomachenko is way ahead against Commey so I don't see how Commey can get a win against Lomachenko. Maybe sheer determination or something like that.
Well, the bookies need to make the money and they know for a fact that Loma is the favorite of this bout so what better thing to do than lower the odds on Lomachenko so they can secure large sums of profit. Lomachenko is way ahead against Commey so I don't see how Commey can get a win against Lomachenko. Maybe sheer determination or something like that.
I don't think the bookies can freely to adjust the odds whatever they want, it's all based on the traffic and volume from the bettors. The more people bets, the lower odds will be and vice versa. Mostly they made profit from people who lose the bets and internal fees.The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December .
There's no reason to watch him, many people already expect Fury will KO'ed Paul less than round 4. If Paul win then it's scripted . 
The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December .
In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played
. In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played
I am definitely rooting for Vasyl Lomachenko as I believe that Richard Commey will not be able to stand all the rounds against him. In my opinion this fight is a guaranteed way to increase my deposit. It is a pity that the bookmakers are giving too low odds to win Lomachenko.
Well, the bookies need to make the money and they know for a fact that Loma is the favorite of this bout so what better thing to do than lower the odds on Lomachenko so they can secure large sums of profit. Lomachenko is way ahead against Commey so I don't see how Commey can get a win against Lomachenko. Maybe sheer determination or something like that. Most of the fans are still interested if there's going to be a chance of seeing Lopez and Loma again inside the ring.
Personally, I can say that if there's a good amount of money that will be involve, rematch may also be consider, Loma needs to win this fight with
a dominance performance, that way fans will continue the chased of calling for the rematch before Lopez move up to another weight division.
Money will talk, still worth to wait both fighters always intensified the fans, showcasing their skills value what viewers are paying for
And if ever there might be a rematch that would happen between Lopez and Loma most probably the good words from Lopez to Loma will definitely became a trash talk, well a mantra of a fighter is throwing words against each other which I think one of the way of the fighters and the boxing management too to hype the game. For now let's not focus on what Lopez have had spoke because this time is the time for Lomachenko and Commey to prove which fighter will going to be the last stand on their upcoming fight.
^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.
He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.
He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.
Quite an interesting version, but these words can be like "glorifying yourself" as Lopez won against Lomanchenko, and maintaining interest in the rematch which can hardly be avoided. All participants in this match are interested in maximum public attention to this event. But if Lopez leaves this weight class without a rematch, it will look as tricky as possible
I agree, this is exactly what I read between the lines, he beat Loma and then tell everyone Loma can beat them all. I know that there is argument for triangle theory in boxing, but this statement seems to be the conception of his statement.
Lopez is very good boxers, maybe in the next 2-3 years he maybe the next great cash cow as he can move up to 140 lbs to 147. But there's always a question mark in his resume for now giving Loma a rematch.
Most of the fans are still interested if there's going to be a chance of seeing Lopez and Loma again inside the ring.
Personally, I can say that if there's a good amount of money that will be involve, rematch may also be consider, Loma needs to win this fight with
a dominance performance, that way fans will continue the chased of calling for the rematch before Lopez move up to another weight division.
Money will talk, still worth to wait both fighters always intensified the fans, showcasing their skills value what viewers are paying for
Of course, money talks but Lopez would also consider his future if he will lose in the rematch. I guess the last time they fought they demanded at least $1 million, so I think it will be bigger if they'll fight for a rematch and probably he will also get a big slice of the pie on the sharing of revenue which might not be easy to agreen upon between promoters and boxers.
^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.
He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.
He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.
Quite an interesting version, but these words can be like "glorifying yourself" as Lopez won against Lomanchenko, and maintaining interest in the rematch which can hardly be avoided. All participants in this match are interested in maximum public attention to this event. But if Lopez leaves this weight class without a rematch, it will look as tricky as possible
I agree, this is exactly what I read between the lines, he beat Loma and then tell everyone Loma can beat them all. I know that there is argument for triangle theory in boxing, but this statement seems to be the conception of his statement.
Lopez is very good boxers, maybe in the next 2-3 years he maybe the next great cash cow as he can move up to 140 lbs to 147. But there's always a question mark in his resume for now giving Loma a rematch.
Most of the fans are still interested if there's going to be a chance of seeing Lopez and Loma again inside the ring.
Personally, I can say that if there's a good amount of money that will be involve, rematch may also be consider, Loma needs to win this fight with
a dominance performance, that way fans will continue the chased of calling for the rematch before Lopez move up to another weight division.
Money will talk, still worth to wait both fighters always intensified the fans, showcasing their skills value what viewers are paying for
^^ Forget about Lopez for a while, that statement is really full of crap from him.
He is so afraid of a rematch that he is going up to 140 lbs, because for sure that will be too much even for the great Loma to go. He will be too small for that and his body might not react the same (reflex, speed, power). So let's just enjoy Loma vs Commey and how he will break down and destroy a great fighter in Richard Commey.
He is so afraid of a rematch that he is going up to 140 lbs, because for sure that will be too much even for the great Loma to go. He will be too small for that and his body might not react the same (reflex, speed, power). So let's just enjoy Loma vs Commey and how he will break down and destroy a great fighter in Richard Commey.
^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.
He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.
He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.
Quite an interesting version, but these words can be like "glorifying yourself" as Lopez won against Lomanchenko, and maintaining interest in the rematch which can hardly be avoided. All participants in this match are interested in maximum public attention to this event. But if Lopez leaves this weight class without a rematch, it will look as tricky as possible
I agree, this is exactly what I read between the lines, he beat Loma and then tell everyone Loma can beat them all. I know that there is argument for triangle theory in boxing, but this statement seems to be the conception of his statement.
Lopez is very good boxers, maybe in the next 2-3 years he maybe the next great cash cow as he can move up to 140 lbs to 147. But there's always a question mark in his resume for now giving Loma a rematch.
^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.
He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.
He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.
Quite an interesting version, but these words can be like "glorifying yourself" as Lopez won against Lomanchenko, and maintaining interest in the rematch which can hardly be avoided. All participants in this match are interested in maximum public attention to this event. But if Lopez leaves this weight class without a rematch, it will look as tricky as possible
I am definitely rooting for Vasyl Lomachenko as I believe that Richard Commey will not be able to stand all the rounds against him. In my opinion this fight is a guaranteed way to increase my deposit. It is a pity that the bookmakers are giving too low odds to win Lomachenko.
^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.
He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.
He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.
Maybe Lopez is waiting for Loma to age, he is already 33 years old, others may say that this is the age wherein boxers started to decline, but there could be argument that he is still in his prime.
So Lopez might be looking at Loma's performance against Commey here, if he sees that Loma is no longer at his peak then maybe he will give him a rematch. Unless the government bodies are going to force Lopez to defend against his mandatory Loma or be strip or his belt.
He just doesn't want to give Loma a rematch, simply at that. Maybe because he is afraid that he will lose this time when Loma is healthy.
The opening odds are ;
If the trend will continue, then most likely Commey will lose and this will be his 4th loss being listed as the underdog in a fight.
Loma is back, that's what I can say because he really look so impressive in his last fight and that's the reason why I like to see him have a rematch with Lopez and I'm pretty sure the outcome would not be the same.
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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
Loma and Commey have agreed to a deal to fight on December 11th, after the Heisman Trophy presentation.
At +300, this is only the fourth time in Commey’s career that he’s opened as a betting underdog. He lost the previous three instances.
https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/Loma and Commey have agreed to a deal to fight on December 11th, after the Heisman Trophy presentation.
At +300, this is only the fourth time in Commey’s career that he’s opened as a betting underdog. He lost the previous three instances.
If the trend will continue, then most likely Commey will lose and this will be his 4th loss being listed as the underdog in a fight.
Loma is back, that's what I can say because he really look so impressive in his last fight and that's the reason why I like to see him have a rematch with Lopez and I'm pretty sure the outcome would not be the same.
He is already healthy no more effects of that shoulder injury as we have seen that he is back to his old form of being so technical against a bigger Nakatani. He as so impressive that he looks for another match within the year and it will be Richard Commey.
Commey is a decent to good fighter, but he is no much to Loma at this point. Loma is really very focus on regaining all his belts and Commey is just one fighter that he needs to dispose off and then get it all back from Lopez.
In this fight, despite all the efforts, I think that if I would go with the statistics, because I believe that Lomachenko can put up a great fight, if things go well for him and his training I dare to think that he can give him a knockout, it is not for discrediting Commey, but Commey may have some physical deficiencies, that injury can affect him and I understand that injuries in men are quite serious and very difficult to heal at 1005 because it is very easy to get injured again. From my own experience, the shoulders are usually the ones that give strength to the blow, and especially those that give the technique to follow, for this reason it is very important that the shoulders are well and I think that may be the Achilles heel.
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