[Boxing]: Lomachenko vs Commey - December 11 - page 4.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 07, 2021, 02:30:23 PM

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No doubt about Loma's skills and that's how fans follow him and support his fights. Wink

Almost there and I'm excited to see if how Loma will bring this one..

^ Yeah it is almost there and this should be an exciting match and it would be nice if we watch them live.
I saw bookies odds between on them and it seems Commey has +600 odds while Loma got -1100 which is there are a lot of bettors on the side of Loma's goods. I cant imagine how Commey looks like after this match, as far as I remember, all of Loma's previous 15 fights and 11 of them were as a result of knockout.

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Now that Haney has beaten Diaz things have become a lot clearer, it seems that both Haney and Kambosos want to go for a unification fight, Kambosos wants the fight at Australia and it seems Haney is willing to accept it, and if we add a possible rematch clause, then it could be more than a year before Lomachenko has a chance to fight one of them for the title, is he willing to wait that long or will he move up a division and look for an opportunity there?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/59540749

He is too small for 140 lbs division, so I doubt that he will move up in weight.

Let's wait if there is a rematch clause for the Haney and Kambosos fight. It is much better and competitive if it will be Kambosos vs Loma, but Loma doesn't have the belt so he doesn't have the luxury right now.

So all he have to do is wait or fight another former champion in 135 and see who will emerge between Haney and Kambosos.

Yeah, agree, although Lomachenko is a great boxer and one of the best but there are limits to his capability. And at 140 lbs, there are bigger boxer, more natural that can give him difficult fight and he can loss as well.

So probably his main aim before retirement is to get back all the belts he lost to Lopez. Currently Kambosos has it but if George will fight Haney next year and then Lomachenko winning, then probably they can set up a fight after.

He just wanted to have some more money before retiring, trying to have as many fight as he can while promoters still interested with him, he's aging now and just like how those prime fighters ends up, retirement is unavoidable, for now it's best to accept whatever offer if the price is right.

No doubt about Loma's skills and that's how fans follow him and support his fights. Wink

Almost there and I'm excited to see if how Loma will bring this one..

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And about your second point, it is true that Lopez is moving up a division, but it is possible Lomachenko does the same if he is not given a chance to fight for a title right away and he is avoided by both champions in that case age could become factor for Lomachenko and he could decide to move up a division as well, in which case a rematch between the two will be almost unavoidable.

I would not want to wait that long (in this case, we will see this fight no earlier than in 3-4 years), but in fact it would be epic - to catch up with an opponent who avoids revenge in another weight category and make him accept the fight there Grin

This can be a plot for some movie (the main thing is that Loma fulfills his task and wins this battle).

Without a doubt it is an interesting story that I would like to see, after all Lopez has been very arrogant since his victory over Lomachenko and I think he let that victory get to his head and now he needs to begin once again to build his reputation after that defeat against Kambosos.

And what could be more perfect than another fight with Lomachenko? I am sure Lomachenko will be willing to accept that fight anytime and anywhere to have the chance to avenge his defeat at the hands of Lopez, and if Lomachenko wins then we could see a trilogy between them.

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Let's wait for the betting odds to be available as betting on the ML for Loma does not make sense unless you have huge capital.

If you are looking for attractive odds, betting on KO in a specific range of rounds would be the answer, mostly, the round ranges are per 3 rounds, you just have to make a good guess and put your money, or bet on Loma winning by decision, maybe that is higher than the 1.15 odds.

I don't chase high odds as it increases the risk of losing. I try not to take risks, so it is more important for me to increase my deposit a little than to take a risk and lose a part of my deposit in case of losing.

Calculate how much the probability of winning decreases when betting on one of the ranges of rounds and if you are satisfied with such risks, then place this bet.

Same here mate, I prefer the crowd favorite and I based it usually on my research about the probability on which fighter has more chances to win. I always do it in a safe way to prevent losses in the future, I mean yes, high odds is definitely tempting to bet but in the end of the day it will lead you to some losses. So might as well go in the safe way.
Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!

Betting for the favorite is the most logical choice to make, however if we know this then it is obvious the casinos know this as well, and what they do to try to encourage other people to bet for the underdog is to give them better odds while at the same time reducing the odds of the favorite, this means that it gets to a point that even if you think one fighter is the clear favorite the odds offered for a bet for the underdog are too good to pass up, and a bet for them to win is the right call.

There's no use to bet for the underdog (Commey) here in this match, even if those gambling sites put some tasty odds to make you think twice. Obviously, Loma has the upper hand in this fight, so if some people will fall in that odds trap then it's their loss. The crowd favorite or choice will always be the winner except for some categories or fighters, but mostly it'll go that way no matter what the odds are. The real bet here is to guess what round will Loma knock Commey out.

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Quote from: Silberman on December 06, 2021, 06:17:11 PM

Now that Haney has beaten Diaz things have become a lot clearer, it seems that both Haney and Kambosos want to go for a unification fight, Kambosos wants the fight at Australia and it seems Haney is willing to accept it, and if we add a possible rematch clause, then it could be more than a year before Lomachenko has a chance to fight one of them for the title, is he willing to wait that long or will he move up a division and look for an opportunity there?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/59540749

He is too small for 140 lbs division, so I doubt that he will move up in weight.

Let's wait if there is a rematch clause for the Haney and Kambosos fight. It is much better and competitive if it will be Kambosos vs Loma, but Loma doesn't have the belt so he doesn't have the luxury right now.

So all he have to do is wait or fight another former champion in 135 and see who will emerge between Haney and Kambosos.

Yeah, agree, although Lomachenko is a great boxer and one of the best but there are limits to his capability. And at 140 lbs, there are bigger boxer, more natural that can give him difficult fight and he can loss as well.

So probably his main aim before retirement is to get back all the belts he lost to Lopez. Currently Kambosos has it but if George will fight Haney next year and then Lomachenko winning, then probably they can set up a fight after.

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Quote from: Silberman on December 06, 2021, 06:17:11 PM

Now that Haney has beaten Diaz things have become a lot clearer, it seems that both Haney and Kambosos want to go for a unification fight, Kambosos wants the fight at Australia and it seems Haney is willing to accept it, and if we add a possible rematch clause, then it could be more than a year before Lomachenko has a chance to fight one of them for the title, is he willing to wait that long or will he move up a division and look for an opportunity there?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/59540749

He is too small for 140 lbs division, so I doubt that he will move up in weight.

Let's wait if there is a rematch clause for the Haney and Kambosos fight. It is much better and competitive if it will be Kambosos vs Loma, but Loma doesn't have the belt so he doesn't have the luxury right now.

So all he have to do is wait or fight another former champion in 135 and see who will emerge between Haney and Kambosos.

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Now that Haney has beaten Diaz things have become a lot clearer, it seems that both Haney and Kambosos want to go for a unification fight, Kambosos wants the fight at Australia and it seems Haney is willing to accept it, and if we add a possible rematch clause, then it could be more than a year before Lomachenko has a chance to fight one of them for the title, is he willing to wait that long or will he move up a division and look for an opportunity there?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/59540749

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Quote from: Vannie12 on December 05, 2021, 10:26:02 AM

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I think Commey has an edge when it comes to reach and height. He can could give it a use. But based on his fight with Lopez, he needs to keep up with speed and throw some good punches as well he was a bit of guard.
On the other hand Loma and Lopez fight was intense specially on the start of 6th to finish. I really thought Loma won that fight but yes he his a bit dull on the first few rounds.

I think even this event will look like a replay of Lopez vs Commey , I will be excited watching both Commey and Loma do their thing and see their improvements from previous loses.

Commey doesn't have a tough chin and has an edge about his reach, he usually play long distance. Unlike Lomachenko he play close with the opponent and it's more intense than long range.

Commey's last fight with Marinez doesn't have any improvements, it's similar like he fight with Lopez before. I bet Lomachenko will win via KO, but I can't predict which round it is.

I have also noticed that. Lomachenko and Lopez are quite alike, they fight close and Commey keeps it distant. I think they have to use their strengths properly. But yes, I'm a bit of a fan of Loma than Commey. Hope he wins by KO. Grin

Would like to see another Lopez and Loma fight again.

Lopez and Loma's fight probably not gonna happen anymore unless Lopez will start winning again but his next fight is not going to be Loma because he is moving up in weight.

His guy who beat Lopez is more interesting.

holding these belts will probably make Loma more interested.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on December 04, 2021, 11:10:35 PM

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I think Commey has an edge when it comes to reach and height. He can could give it a use. But based on his fight with Lopez, he needs to keep up with speed and throw some good punches as well he was a bit of guard.
On the other hand Loma and Lopez fight was intense specially on the start of 6th to finish. I really thought Loma won that fight but yes he his a bit dull on the first few rounds.

I think even this event will look like a replay of Lopez vs Commey , I will be excited watching both Commey and Loma do their thing and see their improvements from previous loses.

Commey doesn't have a tough chin and has an edge about his reach, he usually play long distance. Unlike Lomachenko he play close with the opponent and it's more intense than long range.

Commey's last fight with Marinez doesn't have any improvements, it's similar like he fight with Lopez before. I bet Lomachenko will win via KO, but I can't predict which round it is.

I have also noticed that. Lomachenko and Lopez are quite alike, they fight close and Commey keeps it distant. I think they have to use their strengths properly. But yes, I'm a bit of a fan of Loma than Commey. Hope he wins by KO. Grin

Would like to see another Lopez and Loma fight again.

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Quote from: yazher on December 05, 2021, 07:43:38 AM

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Bookmakers are also confident that Loma will win. I support your point of view that the fight will end with a knockout. I could be wrong, but I don't think Commey can take even 6 rounds.

I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.

More likely Loma will dominate him in the earlier round in order to defeat him without giving the officials to judge the fight with their score which is likely boring. It will be an easy fight for Loma next week and it would be a nice warm-up if ever he will gonna have a chance to fight some champion on his next fight. Canelo should not give his opponent some chance for an opportunity because this fight is his ticket to get back to have a chance to claim his throne again.

I would not think of an easy fight though, Loma has proven being not unbeatable in boxing, he loses to Lopez and Richard Commey is a boxer with a decent record. Loma in order for him to win doesn't need to rush things, he stays with his strategy which is to slowly beat his opponent and use his calculated punches on Richard Commey.

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Vasyl Lomachenko   -800
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Very attractive odds for Richard Commey.

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Bookmakers are also confident that Loma will win. I support your point of view that the fight will end with a knockout. I could be wrong, but I don't think Commey can take even 6 rounds.

I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.

More likely Loma will dominate him in the earlier round in order to defeat him without giving the officials to judge the fight with their score which is likely boring. It will be an easy fight for Loma next week and it would be a nice warm-up if ever he will gonna have a chance to fight some champion on his next fight. Canelo should not give his opponent some chance for an opportunity because this fight is his ticket to get back to have a chance to claim his throne again.

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I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.

He should be if he wants to get back in the limelight, I also believe that he can still take a shot in the lightweight division either from Kambosos or Haney, Loma is more technical than the two it will be a very exciting fight that we are going to have because they are both former champions and they are still in the prime of their career.

Haney just won his fight, and I think Loma's style will give Haney a problem.

As far as training goes, Loma has one of the best training video's I've seen, he is very technical because his training methods in unorthodox, combination of foot work, speed and timing.

For me though, it's better to go to Kambosos directly after he wins his fight with Commey. That is if George is willing to fight Loma or want to defend it right away.

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Quote from: madnessteat on December 05, 2021, 05:18:03 AM

I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.

He should be if he wants to get back in the limelight, I also believe that he can still take a shot in the lightweight division either from Kambosos or Haney, Loma is more technical than the two it will be a very exciting fight that we are going to have because they are both former champions and they are still in the prime of their career.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on December 04, 2021, 11:10:35 PM

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Bookmakers are also confident that Loma will win. I support your point of view that the fight will end with a knockout. I could be wrong, but I don't think Commey can take even 6 rounds.

I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.

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Quote from: Vannie12 on December 04, 2021, 10:43:38 PM

I think Commey has an edge when it comes to reach and height. He can could give it a use. But based on his fight with Lopez, he needs to keep up with speed and throw some good punches as well he was a bit of guard.
On the other hand Loma and Lopez fight was intense specially on the start of 6th to finish. I really thought Loma won that fight but yes he his a bit dull on the first few rounds.

I think even this event will look like a replay of Lopez vs Commey , I will be excited watching both Commey and Loma do their thing and see their improvements from previous loses.

Commey doesn't have a tough chin and has an edge about his reach, he usually play long distance. Unlike Lomachenko he play close with the opponent and it's more intense than long range.

Commey's last fight with Marinez doesn't have any improvements, it's similar like he fight with Lopez before. I bet Lomachenko will win via KO, but I can't predict which round it is.

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I think Commey has an edge when it comes to reach and height. He can could give it a use. But based on his fight with Lopez, he needs to keep up with speed and throw some good punches as well he was a bit of guard.
On the other hand Loma and Lopez fight was intense specially on the start of 6th to finish. I really thought Loma won that fight but yes he his a bit dull on the first few rounds.

I think even this event will look like a replay of Lopez vs Commey , I will be excited watching both Commey and Loma do their thing and see their improvements from previous loses.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 03, 2021, 09:08:11 PM

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Though Lomachenko is sometimes older than his opponents he is still a very good boxer and I don't think he is going to finish his boxing career anytime soon. He is in great physical shape so I have no doubt that he will beat Commey even though he is not a bad boxer either.

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Well probably Lopez will also need to rest to recover mentally from that humiliating lost as well. It's not just physical, most of the time, as in the case of Lopez, he is confident that he will defeat Kambosos and then a huge lost. So let's see how Loma will dispose RC here, if he goes for a KO then maybe he will call out the new champion and travel to Australia for a big fight there with George Kambosos and get his title back.

Every fighter are deserve to take rest like Lopez and distance for a while to recover from their losses especially if it really affect their health (mental health), he needs to recover or move on from his last fight with Kambosos knowing that this fight was his first defeat record that broke his undefeated title. Talking about the upcoming fight of Loma and Commey I am very certain that Loma was a crowd favorite here and yeah if Loma will dispose RC then Loma will possibly the one who were going to fight with Kambosos.

That's my point, he really need to take a break after all, the fight with Kambosos took almost a year and maybe it took a toll of Lopez mentally because of the long drama and he was affected by Covid-19 and maybe this is a factor for his lost as well.

I just beginning to think that if Loma wins against RC, the next best option for him is to go directly to Kambosos next year. Loma is also not getting any younger and he needs to take every opportunity.

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Well probably Lopez will also need to rest to recover mentally from that humiliating lost as well. It's not just physical, most of the time, as in the case of Lopez, he is confident that he will defeat Kambosos and then a huge lost. So let's see how Loma will dispose RC here, if he goes for a KO then maybe he will call out the new champion and travel to Australia for a big fight there with George Kambosos and get his title back.

Every fighter are deserve to take rest like Lopez and distance for a while to recover from their losses especially if it really affect their health (mental health), he needs to recover or move on from his last fight with Kambosos knowing that this fight was his first defeat record that broke his undefeated title. Talking about the upcoming fight of Loma and Commey I am very certain that Loma was a crowd favorite here and yeah if Loma will dispose RC then Loma will possibly the one who were going to fight with Kambosos.

Well, let's see if he will recover, Loma had a good fight after his defeat against Lopez, and now it's Lopez's turn to redeem himself and he is fighting on a heavier division so that's really interesting. Lopez will become a good challenger for the champions in that division which I believe is better than him.

If Lopez chooses to go to 140 lbs, I think it's a good division for him as there's not much name in that weight class, so let's see his next move.

Going back to this fight, I agree that Loma will be the crowd favorite because of his pleasing style, it's not that boring and a thing of beauty seeing him move inside the ring as he is very technical fighter and sometimes he gets a knock out too which makes him a very exciting to watch.

I also like the idea of him chasing Kambosos and get the belt that he once held after he win against Commey this month.

Josh Taylor and then maybe Tank Davis will also move to that division because he also hold a belt here. So this is also a exciting division and there is more money to be made here.

And I don't think that Loma can go move up to 140 lbs, this is too much for him, it's better if he will stay in 135 lbs and try to clean up that division. Get back all his belt, beat Kambosos in Australia and the other regular champions.

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Quote from: Finestream on December 01, 2021, 01:28:06 AM

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Quote from: Questat on November 17, 2021, 05:41:15 PM

Let's wait for the betting odds to be available as betting on the ML for Loma does not make sense unless you have huge capital.

If you are looking for attractive odds, betting on KO in a specific range of rounds would be the answer, mostly, the round ranges are per 3 rounds, you just have to make a good guess and put your money, or bet on Loma winning by decision, maybe that is higher than the 1.15 odds.

I don't chase high odds as it increases the risk of losing. I try not to take risks, so it is more important for me to increase my deposit a little than to take a risk and lose a part of my deposit in case of losing.

Calculate how much the probability of winning decreases when betting on one of the ranges of rounds and if you are satisfied with such risks, then place this bet.

Same here mate, I prefer the crowd favorite and I based it usually on my research about the probability on which fighter has more chances to win. I always do it in a safe way to prevent losses in the future, I mean yes, high odds is definitely tempting to bet but in the end of the day it will lead you to some losses. So might as well go in the safe way.
Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!

Betting for the favorite is the most logical choice to make, however if we know this then it is obvious the casinos know this as well, and what they do to try to encourage other people to bet for the underdog is to give them better odds while at the same time reducing the odds of the favorite, this means that it gets to a point that even if you think one fighter is the clear favorite the odds offered for a bet for the underdog are too good to pass up, and a bet for them to win is the right call.

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