Topic: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 - page 23. (Read 16006 times)

It will for sure if the fight will really take place, then expect additional options when the fight is near or on the day of the fight.

Options that may gave us interesting odd aside from that very small odd for a ML bet. Gamblers always aims for good and decent amount of

potential profits so even it's needed some time to wait they will take it instead of risking big amount of bet with a very low possible earnings.

Well for me this is something very relative, I have seen many opinions from some Butler fans that he is going to give a surprise and this can generate a great rivalry, in fact Butler is preparing as if this were to be the last fight of his life, that is something that I admire a lot because he is really taking this match very seriously, on the other hand I do not rule out that Inoue is one of the best boxers of these times, there are even many boxers who want to fight him, and also some challenges out there that they have done to him publicly, these things are taken into account in order to have a better show, because for me the one with the most fame is Inoue.


Well this is one of the things that sometimes happens in boxing, the betting problem, for now there is still a long time to go, it is necessary to emphasize that emotions can increase over time, by December 13 we will be in the half of the World Cup in Qatar, so some bettors will be waiting for other bets, however I know that there are many fans who do not like football and who will be very thirsty to watch boxing, this is something that can help a lot, I wouldn't speculate yet, we all know that as the dates of these events get closer, emotions and interest start to rise, obviously by now most of the betting will be in Inoue's favor, Butler has to do something, or give declarations.


Well, hope is here and everything has to be left in the hands of Butler, this data has to reach him and obviously it is not to his liking, I think it would not be to the liking of any boxer, so how is it that he has to raise the level of this and he can give as a guarantee that a good comment can put him at the top of the speculation, he has to change everything that people have in their minds, for me what Butler has to do is give statements in full training, he has to manage images, give some kind of interviews where you can see that he is in very good shape, I think this is nothing, there are many resources such as social networks, and it is a great opportunity.

Not really tempting the bettors who knew the real score between the two boxers and even if the bookies will list a much higher odds than the current one, the bettors won't still bother to bet on Butler, well except for the Butler's supporters out there. And IMO, saying that there's a slim chance of upset is an understatement, I know that Inoue's victory is not yet guaranteed but I believe that this fight might be an exemption.

No need to bet on moneyline, we have the asian handicap and it will all be available by December, so have more patience and continue just don't forget to put your bet when that time comes. It's not an easy opponent of Butler, but he has plenty of time to prepare, so he should be ready in this fight and show to the fans that he is not what they are expecting.

That kind of odds will not gonna attract bettors to bet on Inoue ML, it looks like an easy 2% return but would you guys have the balls to risk your money for 2% return? The chances to win is high but the risk is high as well, you choose.

I think that is what most of us want, even if Butler were to lose against Inoue that is not something to be ashamed as we know how good is Inoue, what we want to see is a good fight, and if Butler is capable of giving us one that could be more than enough to increase his reputation as a boxer, as if we are honest there are very few people which actually believe he has what it is need it to get the win against Inoue, now if he could actually get the win then this would be one of the greatest upsets in the history of boxing we have ever seen.

It's too late to create a pool after a thread was created because this forum can't do that. maybe we can use a third-party tool to filter who is rooting them. I did find that 73 users mentioned Naoya Inoue and 77 users mentioned Paul Butler using the ninja tool, but maybe have wrong because I don't look at the detail.

Seems Paul Butler has better stat than  Naoya Inoue, and Butler's experience is a key to he winning the fight.

You're right, even Butler is the underdog it doesnt mean fans are all out to Inoue.

Certainly there are people rooting for Butler to win despite of the talks that he stand no chance. I admire his guts to face the monster and though I also believe that Inoue will win, I hope Butler will give us a good fight and not let himself dominated and become a punching bag of a monster.

now, i am wondering if the OP can create a poll on this thread and let us see who are rooting for butler or inoue? of course, there will always be butler fans. i don't think a certain match will always be all out to the favourite. consider the countrymen of the boxer and you will know that there will always be supporting the underdog. now, it depends on who will place their bet. after all, it is our own prerogative if we will disclose it to the public.

But do those Butler fans respect also those people saying that their boxer won't chance a stand against Inoue?

We should not include the word respect here and let those trash talks just come in until Butler fans accept the reality.

Believe me, those Butler fans can't even put money betting on their idol even if the odds are x12. If they are really that dedicated to supporting Butler, they can place a bet even at $1 to show their support.

Oh well, as much as we wanted to see Casimero vs Inoue as the next best fight if not the best fight in this division, it won't be happening. We've seen how Casimero issues really caught up with him and so the fight is off already and it will be Butler chance to crack the puzzle of Inoue. But we all doubt it, chances are slim. But if it is Casimero then maybe the odds are not going to be like that. maybe Casimero will be an underdog like 4x-6x as compare to Butler's 12x. But then again, we can't say that Casimero vs Inoue will not face each other in the future. Maybe we have hopes that in the next division, they will have to fight for the belt, so the wait will continue for us boxing fans.

I share the same sentiment because I believe it would be Casimero fighting for the undisputed title if he didn't fail to meet the required weight and all those scandal that he was in that is why he was stripped by his belt. In terms of power, my money is for Casimero if he were to fight Butler, no doubt. That is why I strongly believe that Butler cannot prove us wrong because his skills are just too unfortunate if we will compare with Inoue as he can't really keep up with Inoue's power.

Yeah right, it's their opinion that we should respect. After all, we do have differences when basing our opinions and
getting the context we can accept that upset is really happening.

Though it's Inoue that we are talking here, which is really a top caliber champ superior to Butler with a very
different types of skill sets that really uplift his winning chance.

We should all wait till the final day and till we see them together inside the ring. It will be the announcer that will dictate
who's going to be the best from this division.

Well, it's on them.

If that's what they think that shall be the outcome of this match then so be it as their opinion. But we know how numbers don't lie and it's favoring Inoue and that's why we have that belief that this is going to be his.

And not just that.

There will be a KO or TKO that will come to happen.

That is indeed an enticing offer to bet on Butler but definitely a way for sportsbook to reap more money from bettors who wanted to take the risk just to bag a bigger reward.    I wouldn't bet on the underdog this time ( would do if Inoue is the underdog though).  As far as I think of it, I believe Inoue has more than 90% chance of winning, an upset win has really a very low chance here due to the discipline and ability of Inoue.



True, all it needs is court intelligence.  A boxer who is well aware of the surrounding, and strategy of the opponent and be able to adapt to the tactics of opponent and can dictate the tempo or counter the tempo of the opponent is more likely to win.  Butler may dance around the ring in order to avoid a head-on clash but I think Inoue knows what to do in a situation where his opponent makes use of the ring.

if you are betting on butler right now, if upset will happen, it is 12x right now at stake. that is, if butler can beat inoue. but the likelihood of getting upset here is really slim in my opinion. if butler will come prepared, and so is inoue. but it is still interesting to watch how they are inside the ring. some boxers can pull off the fight because of their rigid preparation and working on their strategies. but once inside, those strategies fly off because they won't know what to do if the opponent also changes his movements.

Yeah, I agree with you, after all the boxers performance will speak when they meet each other on the ring.


I also think that there is a huge possibility of early to mid-round KO.  Unless Butler had prepared himself and trained his body to withstand the beating.  But of course, as a bettor and having more options to bet, a decision favors Inoue, KO win by Inoue on x round, we cannot remove the fact to think deeper in order to bag more winnings when we know that betting on early KO gives more reward but then we cannot remove the fact that Butler is also training hard to achieve an upset win or at least last the whole fight.  I know it is way too early talking about odds but well, I just can't help myself talking about it.   

Well true boxing fans when checking who are going to fight will have their favorite already as to who will it. So for us and the betting public, it will be Inoue no doubt, the chances of Butler is very slim.

Nevertheless, it shouldn't bother him but instead let the world know how good he is. On the other hand, it will also show how Inoue is just above level of the competition at bantamweight and taking Butler's belt and then having it all right after the fight only prove that fans have all the right to put their money on him.

Just let them be, cannot really blame them if they are inclined to see Butler win although that is almost near to impossible because their idol is now facing the monster of Japan which is also a knockout artist.

I believe that KO or TKO is likely the result in this fight but I think the bookies will just list a low odds on KO/TKO in favor of Inoue because they knew the likelihood outcome of the fight. That said, a win by a decision will be much more attractive but let's see it soon as we still have 2 more months to go.

I can't blame you if that's how you see it. Butler's resume is completed as he is also a belt holder, but comparing it to Inoue
there's really huge gap in their skills.

It will be determined once the fight is already happening, if there is the finalization between the two camps, fans are already waiting
they wanted to settle these in this same division.

Inoue to win might not be the question for the bettors, but the real question here is when and how he will finish Butler.