Topic: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 - page 20. (Read 16008 times)

I believe that John Riel Casimero would have won the fight, but unfortunately he was very unlucky and cannot fight against Butler, but this Butler will lose against Naoya, in one of the interviews Butler said that he has no illusions about the fight and that no one should underestimate his determination, it looks like the guy is already psychologically beating even before the fight, maybe he keeps listening to negative comments about him, the part where it made me laugh was when he said he's been going to bed dreaming about become the undisputed bantamweight champion, this part made me laugh because it looks like he's under pressure, I could be wrong, anyway when it comes to betting I'll bet on Naoya to win the fight


and also Naoya Inoue has a big advantage which is the age factor, at 29 years old he will undoubtedly have more resistance than Paul Butler who is 33 years old, this age issue also counts a lot in these fights

Butler knows he is not so durable, so if you witness his previous fight, his strategy is more on hit and run, and it works well for him. However, we are talking of Inoue the Beast, he is quick unlike the fighters Butler defeated in the past, so for sure Inoue can hurt Butler and could possibly KO him.

Honestly, I don't think Paul Butler will last 5 rounds. I am not sure if it's intentional for Inoue to look for knockouts unless his opponents are hurt already and he just went for the kill. But he knows that he's got power in both hands. Inoue stopped 20 out of 23 opponents which means only 3 were able to survive. Inoue is also not the kind of fighter that jabs a lot, he prefers to throw powerful punches with bad intentions. Butler's 2 previous defeats also indicate that he can get hurt or knocked down. Butler was stopped before and in his last defeat he lost by decision but he was knocked down too.

Butler is not a real champion because if we still have remembered, it should have been Casimero who will be fighting Inoue if he wasn't disqualified. There's one question that came into my mind, what if Casimero was still the champion, will Inoue still willing to go on a unification fight with him?

Becoming an undisputed champion is not something that happens every day so I think we will see Inoue doing his absolute best against Butler, which is a shame for Butler because the only realistic chance he had of winning this fight is if Inoue did not took it seriously and did not trained properly, but with the undisputed championship being contested there is almost no chance for this to happen, so the only question is at which round will Inoue win the fight rather than who will win the fight.

I'm confused by what you said that since Inoue has a very good reputation, probably he's not looking forward to Knocking Out Paul Butler? And that's not Inoue's style to KO his opponent?  Actually, he is just doing his usual style and if one of his punches send his opponent kissing the canvass, then he just did a great job of KOing his opponent.

Anyways, what are those other relevant things you are referring to that Inoue will do instead of looking for a knockout win?

I'm not sure though if I got clearly the picture of your statement so please correct me with that.

You won't be able to see the complete betting odds soon, most likely odds will only be available once the fight is approaching, since we still have more than a month before the schedule of the fight, so it's still the ML odds that will be displayed by the sportsbook.

It's better if we have a reference like a previous fight of Inoue and the range of the rounds so we can see a picture of what possibly the odds.

It's just too bad for Butler as no one is talking here about him winning an upset, he better bet on himself if he really trust himself to win.

Good point though, but if the odds would still make us profitable, why not bet on rounds 1-3, and 4-6, so in the first 6 rounds, Inoue should win by KO in order for our bet to win. However, if you want bigger return, then you better take a higher risk to get a better odds, and that is probably rounds 1-3.

Maybe there's another betting odds that would satisfy us, then that's the time to choose. All I believe is that it's not going to be hard for Inoue, and since he is a knockout artist, I'm expecting to see his signature body shot to KO Butler. Rounds 4-6 I think has a better odds compared to rounds 1-3.

Inoue is a KO orchestrator, so I agree with that kind of observation. He will not quickly go for it but instead he will find the right timing.

Butler, on the other hand, is a known defensive fighter, so he as well will not take that carelessness to
happen in this fight.

Both fighters will show up their strategy and will try to see if they will see any opportunities to take their
opponent down, place your bet with your knowledge of both fighters.

He is still vastly improving at this point in his career. As you have said, no one expected him to simply blast Nonito because in their last fight it went full 12 rounds and Nonito broke his orbital bone.

But not this time, Inoue make sure that he will be on top again but this time it will be a clean knock out. So I'm expecting that Inoue will be more hungrier in this fight as this is a unification and most probably his last fight at bantamweight division.

That's possible but unlikely, it's an undisputed championship fight, so Inoue won't be too careless and will go directly for a KO. I believe he will be more careful and compose while looking for the right timing, so 1-3, there's a low chance he could KO Butler.

Too different outcomes, either a knockout in the first rounds, or by decision. Winning in the first rounds is unlikely, this is not a heavyweight division where one punch can decide everything, although Inoue has a pretty strong punch. To do this, he will need to work hard and if Inoue is counting on winning by knockout, then I think that this should be expected at the end of the fight in the championship rounds.

Well just seeing the two Naoya Inoue VS Nonito Donaire fight, Naoya Inoue is now at a different level, and I  am not so sure about Paul Butler but in just a short time he is already grown so much for Nonito Donaire to be dominated, by Naoya, he surely has transcends to a new level, now the transition of those punches, and speed if you may that Nonito Donaire hasn't seen, and the likely signature of the Monster, his punching power is really superb, for me, I think Naoya Inoue is still filling up the cup and still not reaching his ceiling to be filled,  for me Naoya Inoue will win over Paul Butler,

If Naoya Inoue has accomplished this fight in such an easy manner then maybe John Riel Casimero will have had a chance with this monster, but that is for the future to unveil because he was stripped of his belt and now he will surely be all starting from below,

It think that is a better strategy than going toe to toe against the monster.  Out pointing a heavy hitter is one of the popular strategy in boxing, that is why we can see many boxer clinch after throwing a punch to disable their opponent from counterpunching, while others dance in the ring and leave jobs as they back step.  More agile boxers do that if they are facing a tough, heavy-hitter boxer.  So it won't be a surprise if Butler go with this kind of strategy.


This will be devastating to Butler and favors Inoue since Inoue is the heavier hitter among the two.


Indeed we, fans, will appreciate if Butler will fight Inoue toe to toe but it would be disastrous for Butler.  Butler's camp will advise him to not fight Inoue head on and just use the ring to avoid head on confrontation.

I would bet for 1-3 rounds since Inoue is just too strong for Butler and Butler doesn't have an iron chin, so I expect Butler can't do anything here. I think the fight would either end by knock out for early rounds or Inoue will win via decision since Butler will ran away in order to not get punched by Inoue.

Currently there's no odds for other betting option, maybe it's still 2 months more before the fight will happen. Maybe all betting option will available when less than 1 week, I'm just interested to see which betting option is more worthy to bet.

Yes, I think most bettors here will stay away from the ML because of the obvious reasons.

And our best bet is by round or if you feeling extremely lucky just pick one particular round that we think Inoue will KO Butler. So money wise and value bet it should be in Inoue's way as obviously base on the odds and from what our boxing community thinks here Inoue will win by KO.

That's a good point, 4-6 rounds maybe the rounds where Butler could go down because Inoue will surely not gonna stop chasing him to finish the fight early. Inoue knows Butler is not a heavy puncher, so he might continue to be aggressive until he will catch Butler and hurt him.

Well, hopefully that range will give a very attractive odds so we will be entice to place our bet.

We agree on this, for me Inoue is well above those in his category, but he meets the expectations and standards that they demand, so this is something that should not be ruled out, he is in the indicated category, that the ability he has makes him see that he is on another level is something else, it is for this reason that I see Butler as having the opportunity of his life, fighting with the best boxer he can face, any boxer would like to be in his position, and for this reason I think he will not waste the opportunity and that is why he has been preparing almost with his heart, for me Butler will leave everything in the ring, and the big hit is if he manages to beat Inoue.
It is very true, fighting like this is like when Pacquiao fought Mayweather, that what he did was run around the ring and took him to a merely technical level and where he was given the winner more than anything because of the great influence he had, and not because he is a good boxer, and because his technique is the best, for me that fight was a hoax and I hope that Butler does not pursue a strategy of that style, because I am even able to switch channels, because there are many things to bore me , then a long-awaited fight deserves that they go with everything, I do not see another option to be able to do and have, Bbutler has to show what he is made of and if he is going to go out in fear, then it is better that he does not fight.


I don't see Inoue looking for a knockout against Butler, also that's not Inoue's style, for me he will do other more relevant things, Inoue has a very good reputation, I don't see him going to win like that, although everything is within the possibilities , if Inoue sees that he can knock him out, I think he will take that option, but I doubt it, I really see this fight as very long and it may be within some parameters as one of the best fights, obviously I do not want this fight to be merely technical, because I think We will all feel cheated and that is bad, because that way no one else will want to see Butler in action again and with good reason.

Possible mate, that is the hardest part though of this kind of 'round range' bet because it's going to be very difficult to predict. And just like in the Inoue fight, we didn't see that Inoue is going to knockout him out in just 2 rounds.

But if you think that Butler is not going to go toe to toe early because he is afraid that he might get knock out then yeah, 4-6 might be a good option to put your money in.