Topic: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 - page 19. (Read 16050 times)

That is if that said champion is not scared of Inoue, super-bantam has 2 champions, both acquired 2 belts and still undefeated until now. If they are looking forward to have a legacy then might as well accept if Inoue's camp is aiming for them. Still too early for me because he's still bound for his undisputed title and maybe test the water first before fighting champions. But for Casimero, I agree, he needs to lift his name these days first because he is currently buried in issues. People wanted proof first.

I still think that if Casimero would have been able to get on the ring with Butler and beat him that Inoue would have liked to go for the undisputed anyway, and the fight would have attracted way more fans as it would not be as clear who will win the fight and it would have brought way more money for everyone involved, unfortunately it was not meant to be, however assuming Inoue wins I think he will move to the super bantamweight and we may see Casimero and Inoue going at it in that division.

That's the kind of liberty Inoue has, he is in the top 10 for the pound for pound ranking, so he's considered a tough challenger for any champion, and if the promoter of the champion would want to have a big fight that will also make them earn a lot of money, they should be ready fighting Inoue as Inoue is one of the most popular boxers now in the world.

However, for Casimero, it seems like he needs to do a hyping job again in order for him to gain the attention of the fans, and he should also consistently winning.

Agree to that, In Inoue's case, he can or his promoters can negotiate with a title holder, while for Casimero, he needs to start from the scratch before he can challenge a belt holder.

Though we don't know if how both camps will negotiate and initiate the possible fight to happen
as the organization will not allow them to direct the deal from each other, they need to follow what
the organization will demand them to do, a process that both camps needs to comply.

They will have to make way up before fighting the champion. Although Inoue might have the easiest way because he organizations might give him a freeway since he is a champion after all. So maybe Inoue will have 1 fight in 122 lbs, just to test the weight and fighters at this natural weight and after that, he will be set up against the current champion in this division. As compare to Casimero which might have to work very hard just to get a rank in the super bantamweight.

If Inoue will move up, there are champions that he has to beat, Casimero is not a champ so he also needs to win more fights like Inoue's gonna do. I hope to see them fight together because Casimero has been challenging Inoue when he was still a champion, but Inoue just ignore the challenge and fight an old Donaire, I don't know if he is just playing safe or what.

I guess their unification fight will still happen and it's inevitable because both of them are looking forward to make their own respective legacy, although I think there will be some stalling first  and knowing Casimero, he might bark to lift the hype until their fight is official. It might be delayed but it won't last long.

But Butler's case is different, age is not the issue for him and he might got the right discipline but he ain't got the right skill set to defeat the monster of Japan who is still improving as years goes by. Not sure who will give him a hard time, maybe he got one in the next division but I'm quite sure that Butler is not the one.

And for that Spence-Crawford unification fight, one of them is stalling for sure that is why we can't witness it this year.

Actually, a knockout is totally possible to happen within that range and to put it on perspective, all of the four range options have 25% chances of win and it's really hard to predict where will Inoue finish the fight. Anyway, my point is that Butler totally knows that he can't do much in this fight to give Inoue some hard time and having said that, he might try to survive as long as he can because engaging a toe-to-toe fight won't benefit him. That is why for me, round 4-6 is the best option.

I checked Inoue's knockout record. 60% of his KO victories are inside 5 rounds and 75% of his KOs are inside 6 rounds. That's some crazy stats. I'd been looking as well for more markets about the fight but I still can't find any.

Anyways, I cannot wait for this fight to happen even if we see it as too one-sided. I have huge respect for Butler taking this unification fight, he is here because he is a champion and we will see what he brings.       

I just realized that Top Rank and ESPN continue to have the best fighters in boxing. Naoya Inoue, Shakur Stevenson, Vasiliy Lomachenko, Devin Haney, Teofimo Lopez, Josh Taylor, Artur Beterbiev, and Tyson Fury. Just when I thought earlier that Bob Arum is getting older, that he is losing his touch and he failed to get a hold of Crawford and Zurdo. So I thought Top Rank will die slowly. I was wrong.

You are not the only one who thinks this way, more than 90% of the opinions of many experts in the forum give Butler the winner, obviously for a person who has doubts and wants good last-minute advice and reads here they will realize that the best option that many will say is that they go in favor of Inoue, and yes, the boxer is very complete, he has a very good victory rate, he is very successful and nothing, his technique is very good and has made many fall I think the most important thing is that he manages to move the emoines in his favor, he has earned respect and above all the people love him, because I have also noticed that in boxing.


It is a bit difficult to refute that, however not everything is written, for me a good surprise can happen if and only if Butler does a training of another level, where every day he has something very intense in mind to repair his body and strength. much more his muscles, make them more resistant, with more strength, increase his speed and his resistance, everything is in that he can do everything possible to focus only on that fight, yes, we know that Inoue is a genius of the boxing, which apart from his skill and talent has a big reinforcement when he trains, the Japanese will dominate very well any strategy that is imposed and makes his work.


Yes, you are right, however, despite all the good things that Inoue can offer, I would not know if he is capable of resolving the fight in a short time or if it will last to solve the best, what I think is that the fight will last the 12 round, I don't think Butler will go to that fight so softly, on the contrary, for me he will prepare very well and will be able to show that he has quite a level and although the odds do not smile on him, we could talk about a good time for him to show what is done, this fight is not the same that is so in Inoue's favor, the main thing that defines a boxer is his self-esteem and this is something that Butler does not want to let go and I think there could be the possibility that there will be a surprise.

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Well this is simply a preview of what can be given and what is to come:

Inoue vs Butler serves to unify bantamweight division




Source: https://wbcboxing.com/en/inoue-vs-butler-serves-to-unify-bantamweight-division/

That will lead to low odds of Inoue winning within 5 rounds as he is known to finish his opponent in the early rounds.

We can only expect high odds on Inoue winning in late rounds but as a bettor, I would not place any bet in later rounds. It's hard to make money in this fight where the battle is between a Giant and a Small fry (Please don't take personally the word I used).

Can't wait to see the other betting options.

Age should not be the issue here. Even Butler is 10 years younger than Inoue, Butler still don't have a chance to win.

There's no advantage that I can really see how Butler will win against Inoue.

Sorry but Inoue is a sure win here, period.

Of course, that's what a unification fight should be. And besides, there will be a massive demand for that unification fight. To become an undisputed champion, a boxer must defeat all those champions in that division.

I just wonder why you questioned the willingness of Inoue if will fight Casimero. Do you think Inoue is scared of Casimero? Hmm. Don't hype Casimero as Inoue will surely win even though Casimero is the one fighting here at the unification fight.

i also have the same sentiments here. age is not a big factor in this fight as they are both considered at their prime. it is the skills and talent that will matter most on this match. and inoue has pretty good advantage on this. december is still a long way to go so more then likely, there will be long discussions here before this fight. lol now, we wait for other betting lines to open as i feel that this will not go the distance.

Personally, I base my sentiment on how Inoue finished his fight against Donaire,

Knowing that he can risk his belt by facing Donaire in a toe-to-toe exchange of punches, but the outcome favored him as
he KO Donaire on their 2nd match.

Not sure if he will change that strategy or he will continue where he knows he is best at, KO is one of the anticipated outcome
especially he's playing in front of his own crowd.

Some boxers could still maintain their strength and stamina despite their age. They were still able to use their experience as an edge against new boxers while there are also a few boxers that gets weaker due to their age and weren't able to deal with the strength of younger boxers. Things will depend on skills as for me because age wouldn't be a problem if a boxer is skilled enough to counter his opponent's movements.

Actually 30+ years old are considered a prime age in boxing, I'd say 25-36 years old is a prime age... while few boxer can still maintain his stamina and power until they reach 40 years old. After 40+ years old it's really hard for boxer to fight a tough boxer which is make sense since your body are quite different when you was still 30+ years old.

I'd say both of them are in prime age, either Butler or Inoue losing in this fight isn't because of the age, but a skills issues.

Age is just a number if you are a discipline boxer, and of course a talented one in order to excel in this sport. Errol Spence is a good example, he is already at 30+ and yet he still is the champion, I know Crawford is trying to beat him but if their fight is not gonna happen, we will not know who is better than the two.

It's suppose to be great to watch two undisputed championships, but I think this one will only push and not the Spence vs Crawford.

We don't have to discuss the age advantage of Inoue because Butler is not yet old, Errol Spence is already 32 years old and yet he is still one of the best boxers in our generation. The thing is, even if Butler is the younger fighter, I still don't think he can beat the style and talent of Inoue.