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January 26, 2023, 03:57:34 PM
#45

Meanwhile, Donaire's earlier target is to drop in weight and face El Gallo Estrada for his ambition to become a 5 division world champion. We will see if old Donaire entertains this fight as he was already a 2-time champion in this division and he's got a few more fights left in his career.
That's a good decision but too risky, dropping weight class and maintaining it until the day you fight is way more risker than adding weight especially with his current age imo. But if ever he successfully claim that title fight then that's good a feet for retirement only known people get 5 division titles in the history of boxing.
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January 26, 2023, 03:42:31 PM
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Donaire is looking for one last big fight and he wants to end his career with another title, every boxer whose career is in the twilight will like to have that graceful exit, I just hope he'll get it this time and finally retire, a title on his belt will vanish that nightmare loss
to Inoue, because the boxing history book and people always remember your last fight.
I hope Donaire will finally consider retirement if he wins the fight and the title, that's the best time to retire. 
That may be the best choice he will make after the fight. Win or lose. Then just do exhibition games if he thinks he still miss boxing just like what other old boxers are doing now. He did prove himself and if only he is in his prime, he may have been the one who defeated Inoue and blemished that perfect record of him.
It's difficult to predict where this fight will go but I am thinking Donaire's heart to claim the title back is bigger than Moloney. He will definitely box like it's his last dance and perhaps the retirement is also being suggested to him by his team.

That's the easiest path to go after retirement, just like Manny Pacquiao, he had a successful exhibition fight and he made money on that. Donaire is not convinced his career is over because Inoue has been beating young and old fighters, so he wants to try on this young fighter that does not have the quality of Inoue, which means he can take the punches and he can KO Jason Moloney if the latter makes a mistake.

No doubt about that because I also believe the same thing that Nonito Donaire can still give some hardships to Jason Moloney and make his journey much harder for this vacated belt because just like the latter, Donaire is also on his own campaign to be a champion once more before he starts to consider a retirement. I'm just excited already to see how will this match go because Donaire will be facing another young blood but this time, not the type of monster like Inoue.
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January 26, 2023, 10:56:47 AM
#43
Donaire is looking for one last big fight and he wants to end his career with another title, every boxer whose career is in the twilight will like to have that graceful exit, I just hope he'll get it this time and finally retire, a title on his belt will vanish that nightmare loss
to Inoue, because the boxing history book and people always remember your last fight.
I hope Donaire will finally consider retirement if he wins the fight and the title, that's the best time to retire. 
That may be the best choice he will make after the fight. Win or lose. Then just do exhibition games if he thinks he still miss boxing just like what other old boxers are doing now. He did prove himself and if only he is in his prime, he may have been the one who defeated Inoue and blemished that perfect record of him.
It's difficult to predict where this fight will go but I am thinking Donaire's heart to claim the title back is bigger than Moloney. He will definitely box like it's his last dance and perhaps the retirement is also being suggested to him by his team.

That's the easiest path to go after retirement, just like Manny Pacquiao, he had a successful exhibition fight and he made money on that. Donaire is not convinced his career is over because Inoue has been beating young and old fighters, so he wants to try on this young fighter that does not have the quality of Inoue, which means he can take the punches and he can KO Jason Moloney if the latter makes a mistake.

It will be early for Donaire to retire and it is also not too late for him to prove himself more on the ring. There are still many chances for him to beat more strong boxers if he will be more determined and make his previous losses as his motivation.
The previous fights was tough for him but we know that he is still capable of doing more. I hope he will never lose this chance to win and prove that he will still be a strong Filipino boxer.

I can see that in this upcoming fight, Donaire might win in terms of experience but with the power and speed we don't if he still has it. And, both fighters have experienced fighting with Inoue and they lose so I think they know what they are lacking. If I will bet on this fight, I'll choose Donaire because he will for sure prove to himself that he can still win a fight.
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January 26, 2023, 10:16:52 AM
#42
Donaire is looking for one last big fight and he wants to end his career with another title, every boxer whose career is in the twilight will like to have that graceful exit, I just hope he'll get it this time and finally retire, a title on his belt will vanish that nightmare loss
to Inoue, because the boxing history book and people always remember your last fight.
I hope Donaire will finally consider retirement if he wins the fight and the title, that's the best time to retire. 
That may be the best choice he will make after the fight. Win or lose. Then just do exhibition games if he thinks he still miss boxing just like what other old boxers are doing now. He did prove himself and if only he is in his prime, he may have been the one who defeated Inoue and blemished that perfect record of him.
It's difficult to predict where this fight will go but I am thinking Donaire's heart to claim the title back is bigger than Moloney. He will definitely box like it's his last dance and perhaps the retirement is also being suggested to him by his team.

That's the easiest path to go after retirement, just like Manny Pacquiao, he had a successful exhibition fight and he made money on that. Donaire is not convinced his career is over because Inoue has been beating young and old fighters, so he wants to try on this young fighter that does not have the quality of Inoue, which means he can take the punches and he can KO Jason Moloney if the latter makes a mistake.

It will be early for Donaire to retire and it is also not too late for him to prove himself more on the ring. There are still many chances for him to beat more strong boxers if he will be more determined and make his previous losses as his motivation.
The previous fights was tough for him but we know that he is still capable of doing more. I hope he will never lose this chance to win and prove that he will still be a strong Filipino boxer.
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January 26, 2023, 09:45:21 AM
#41
Donaire is looking for one last big fight and he wants to end his career with another title, every boxer whose career is in the twilight will like to have that graceful exit, I just hope he'll get it this time and finally retire, a title on his belt will vanish that nightmare loss
to Inoue, because the boxing history book and people always remember your last fight.
I hope Donaire will finally consider retirement if he wins the fight and the title, that's the best time to retire. 
That may be the best choice he will make after the fight. Win or lose. Then just do exhibition games if he thinks he still miss boxing just like what other old boxers are doing now. He did prove himself and if only he is in his prime, he may have been the one who defeated Inoue and blemished that perfect record of him.
It's difficult to predict where this fight will go but I am thinking Donaire's heart to claim the title back is bigger than Moloney. He will definitely box like it's his last dance and perhaps the retirement is also being suggested to him by his team.

That's the easiest path to go after retirement, just like Manny Pacquiao, he had a successful exhibition fight and he made money on that. Donaire is not convinced his career is over because Inoue has been beating young and old fighters, so he wants to try on this young fighter that does not have the quality of Inoue, which means he can take the punches and he can KO Jason Moloney if the latter makes a mistake.
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January 26, 2023, 09:17:36 AM
#40
Donaire is looking for one last big fight and he wants to end his career with another title, every boxer whose career is in the twilight will like to have that graceful exit, I just hope he'll get it this time and finally retire, a title on his belt will vanish that nightmare loss
to Inoue, because the boxing history book and people always remember your last fight.
I hope Donaire will finally consider retirement if he wins the fight and the title, that's the best time to retire. 
That may be the best choice he will make after the fight. Win or lose. Then just do exhibition games if he thinks he still miss boxing just like what other old boxers are doing now. He did prove himself and if only he is in his prime, he may have been the one who defeated Inoue and blemished that perfect record of him.
It's difficult to predict where this fight will go but I am thinking Donaire's heart to claim the title back is bigger than Moloney. He will definitely box like it's his last dance and perhaps the retirement is also being suggested to him by his team.
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January 26, 2023, 09:07:51 AM
#39
I hope Donaire will finally consider retirement if he wins the fight and the title, that's the best time to retire. 

I really doubt it. For let's say Nonito Donaire will win against Moloney, who is currently ranked #1 by the WBC, he will think that all boxers below him are easy to beat. He might push for another title shot on other boxing bodies and will try to claim it all.

If continue to win his next fights in the future, I'm seeing Donaire will retire at the age of 42-43.

On the other hand, if he will lose to Moloney, seeing him retiring and hanging his gloves after that fight.

Even if he wins this bout, I think his camp would probably urge him to retire, or accept one last rematch against Moloney and then call it quits. Tbh Donaire is not getting any younger, and his reflexes are certainly slowing down which may even be dangerous for his health as one fatal blow could potentially mess up his life. Best to hang the gloves after this fight no matter the outcome if he wants to enjoy what he's built over the years in his boxing career.
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January 26, 2023, 08:10:39 AM
#38
Most of us here are rooting for Donaire to win by KO. However, I have to bet against you guys because I think Inoue will not be able to knock out Jason Moloney, and when that will go to the judges scorecards, the decision might not favor Donaire. I know that he will take this opportunity to win to become a champion again, but judging on his last fight, I believe his age really slowed him down and has affected his power.

Donaire being slowed down isn't really a problem after all. He is already slowed when he passes his peak but takes a look, why still winning most of his fights since entering maybe at 35 years of age or the age where we can consider him a veteran?

While Donaire is slowly losing his speed, his game style also adjusted. The goal is to gain more points therefore, he will do it slowly but surely.

It's just that he was overpowered by Inoue previously but still, his current game style is surely effective at other bantamweight boxers.

But even if he slows down, he negate it with his power and timing, we have seen that he can knockout anyone in the 118 lbs. And for me Donaire is not that fast or quick as let's say Manny Pacquiao, he uses his boxing IQ to really time his opponent coming in that's why you think he is fast. Even in the Darchy fight, you can already see his IQ there by just countering him all night with his left hook until he hit him with that huge one causing Darchy to stumble and never get back. And that is his trademark left hook that up to this day, can still knockout anyone even Moloney if he touches him with that power.

He slowed down but if he has that accuracy he had in his previous wins, I think this fight will end via KO win. However, as I said, my prediction is this is going to end in the judges scorecards, and I'm afraid the decision will not be in Donaire's favor.
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January 26, 2023, 07:47:12 AM
#37
Donaire IMO has an edge here, he likes an opponent that is shorter than him which is not a heavy puncher. So even if Jason Moloney is a younger fighter, I think Donaire's power is already enough to KO him with a great counter punch. Can't want to see this fight, I thought Donaire would already retire after losing to Inoue, but look at this big surprise, this would certainly make the fans happy.
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January 26, 2023, 05:53:32 AM
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Most of us here are rooting for Donaire to win by KO. However, I have to bet against you guys because I think Inoue will not be able to knock out Jason Moloney, and when that will go to the judges scorecards, the decision might not favor Donaire. I know that he will take this opportunity to win to become a champion again, but judging on his last fight, I believe his age really slowed him down and has affected his power.

Donaire being slowed down isn't really a problem after all. He is already slowed when he passes his peak but takes a look, why still winning most of his fights since entering maybe at 35 years of age or the age where we can consider him a veteran?

While Donaire is slowly losing his speed, his game style also adjusted. The goal is to gain more points therefore, he will do it slowly but surely.

It's just that he was overpowered by Inoue previously but still, his current game style is surely effective at other bantamweight boxers.

But even if he slows down, he negate it with his power and timing, we have seen that he can knockout anyone in the 118 lbs. And for me Donaire is not that fast or quick as let's say Manny Pacquiao, he uses his boxing IQ to really time his opponent coming in that's why you think he is fast. Even in the Darchy fight, you can already see his IQ there by just countering him all night with his left hook until he hit him with that huge one causing Darchy to stumble and never get back. And that is his trademark left hook that up to this day, can still knockout anyone even Moloney if he touches him with that power.

Donaire is not at the level of Pacquiao and it didn't give justice if you compare their capabilities. But its undeniable that Donaire is strong even if he is already old but I think he has the advantage with this fight since looking if we look at the last fight of Moloney his bit slow and Donaire's counter punch is a huge advantage for him to defeat Moloney on this match. Provably Donaire will be the top choice of people to bet since they know how this guy play well on the ring.
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January 26, 2023, 04:55:35 AM
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Although there's a huge gap in age, I still think Donaire could be a dominating fighter once he gets his rhythm.
Both boxers lost against Naoya Inoue, both were KO'ed by the young superstar too. (Donaire vs Inoue 2) Although I also want to point out how difficult it was for Inoue at their first fight. Lasted 12 rounds, Inoue was also hurt in the process.
I believe The Flash still has it, the punching power is there although his movements might become limited to preserve his stamina. Moloney on the other hand could use that to his advantage.
This might become a fight with an unpredictable winner unlike other events that happened recently, I hope the odds will be balanced for good profits.

My analysis is that anybody of the top 10 bantamweights might be able to outpunch this version of Donaire but the question is if they can survive the whole 36 minutes without getting hit by those killer hooks. The power of Donaire in this weight is just too much to absorb. Inoue was lucky it was an old Donaire that faced him, otherwise, he would've been stopped especially when he has hurt already in their first fight.

I will have my bet on Donaire but only if the fight happens outside of Australia. Moloney is also a KO artist and the crowd might boost his morale and conditioning and be able to evade all those hooks by fighting smart and consistently holding if the referee allows him to do so, being the home fighter.

Nonetheless, I am also hopeful that Donaire gets his wish of fighting El Gallo Estrada for a chance to become a 5 division champion.
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January 25, 2023, 09:44:08 PM
#34
Most of us here are rooting for Donaire to win by KO. However, I have to bet against you guys because I think Inoue will not be able to knock out Jason Moloney, and when that will go to the judges scorecards, the decision might not favor Donaire. I know that he will take this opportunity to win to become a champion again, but judging on his last fight, I believe his age really slowed him down and has affected his power.

Donaire being slowed down isn't really a problem after all. He is already slowed when he passes his peak but takes a look, why still winning most of his fights since entering maybe at 35 years of age or the age where we can consider him a veteran?

While Donaire is slowly losing his speed, his game style also adjusted. The goal is to gain more points therefore, he will do it slowly but surely.

It's just that he was overpowered by Inoue previously but still, his current game style is surely effective at other bantamweight boxers.

But even if he slows down, he negate it with his power and timing, we have seen that he can knockout anyone in the 118 lbs. And for me Donaire is not that fast or quick as let's say Manny Pacquiao, he uses his boxing IQ to really time his opponent coming in that's why you think he is fast. Even in the Darchy fight, you can already see his IQ there by just countering him all night with his left hook until he hit him with that huge one causing Darchy to stumble and never get back. And that is his trademark left hook that up to this day, can still knockout anyone even Moloney if he touches him with that power.
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January 25, 2023, 06:57:21 PM
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I hope Donaire will finally consider retirement if he wins the fight and the title, that's the best time to retire. 

I really doubt it. For let's say Nonito Donaire will win against Moloney, who is currently ranked #1 by the WBC, he will think that all boxers below him are easy to beat. He might push for another title shot on other boxing bodies and will try to claim it all.

If continue to win his next fights in the future, I'm seeing Donaire will retire at the age of 42-43.

On the other hand, if he will lose to Moloney, seeing him retiring and hanging his gloves after that fight.
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January 25, 2023, 05:54:29 PM
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Most of us here are rooting for Donaire to win by KO. However, I have to bet against you guys because I think Inoue will not be able to knock out Jason Moloney, and when that will go to the judges scorecards, the decision might not favor Donaire. I know that he will take this opportunity to win to become a champion again, but judging on his last fight, I believe his age really slowed him down and has affected his power.

Donaire being slowed down isn't really a problem after all. He is already slowed when he passes his peak but takes a look, why still winning most of his fights since entering maybe at 35 years of age or the age where we can consider him a veteran?

While Donaire is slowly losing his speed, his game style also adjusted. The goal is to gain more points therefore, he will do it slowly but surely.

It's just that he was overpowered by Inoue previously but still, his current game style is surely effective at other bantamweight boxers.
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January 25, 2023, 05:49:07 PM
#31
I understand why Donaire keeps on fighting and wants to win another title he just wants a graceful exit, his fight against Inoue is the one that hurt the most if he ends his career with that lingers in the mind of the boxing community, and this could be the fight that he wants to win because there is a title attached to it, Donaire can beat Moloney provided that he still has the power of that left hook and besides he is more comfortable in that weight category like all the majority I'm betting or Donaire to win the fight.
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January 25, 2023, 05:41:57 PM
#30
D. Moloney by decision

I have voted this on the poll which i do believe that the younger ones would be having the edge on this fight but wont really be enough on taking down Donaire though.
Donaire is past on his prime although he could still kick some ass on the ring but lets see if he could be able to pin down Moloney but i would put up my bet
on the younger one. Experience is relevant but wont be something that assures you to be beaten up by someone whose younger that you.
Power isnt also a joke for Moloney.
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January 25, 2023, 05:36:13 PM
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Well, we cannot blame those fans who are expecting much from Donaire; he's one of the great boxers out there which means expectations are high on his end. Which makes it not surprising to know that his recent fights were veing compared to his previous or career fights which showed how dominant he was on his weight class. But this one I think Nonito has the advantage with speed not unless Moloney would surpass his agility trainings. Would be a good fight on my end. Been a fan of Nonito for years and I think it would be great for his comeback to win this match big time. Hopefully he'd be on top condition during the fight.

Donaire is looking for one last big fight and he wants to end his career with another title, every boxer whose career is in the twilight will like to have that graceful exit, I just hope he'll get it this time and finally retire, a title on his belt will vanish that nightmare loss
to Inoue, because the boxing history book and people always remember your last fight.
I hope Donaire will finally consider retirement if he wins the fight and the title, that's the best time to retire. 

Correct, you can't really blame those boxers who are looking for that one last fight in their career, specially that Donaire will be given a chance to fight for the belt. And it seems he is the one very aggressive chasing this one against Moloney. So he is not looking to retire for the time being, instead wanted to become a champion again and to put this belt on his waist And if he won here, I don't see him retiring, for sure he will defend his belt to every new comer in the bantamweight division, even against it's countrymen, Reymart Gaballo, Jerwin Ancajas and Vincent Astrolabio.
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January 25, 2023, 04:37:16 PM
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Well, we cannot blame those fans who are expecting much from Donaire; he's one of the great boxers out there which means expectations are high on his end. Which makes it not surprising to know that his recent fights were veing compared to his previous or career fights which showed how dominant he was on his weight class. But this one I think Nonito has the advantage with speed not unless Moloney would surpass his agility trainings. Would be a good fight on my end. Been a fan of Nonito for years and I think it would be great for his comeback to win this match big time. Hopefully he'd be on top condition during the fight.

Donaire is looking for one last big fight and he wants to end his career with another title, every boxer whose career is in the twilight will like to have that graceful exit, I just hope he'll get it this time and finally retire, a title on his belt will vanish that nightmare loss
to Inoue, because the boxing history book and people always remember your last fight.
I hope Donaire will finally consider retirement if he wins the fight and the title, that's the best time to retire. 
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January 25, 2023, 11:35:31 AM
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I don't know who can win this fight because they have an approximate difference in technique and age of course Nonito Donaire is older than his opponent but he is also much more experienced than Jason Moloney so both experience and youth can play in this fight.

Moloney's age could be an advantage only if he would focus on countering Donaire's punches. However, Donaire's previous matches aren't that impressive. He had a lose streak and it really ruined his winning record. It seems like he wasn't well prepared in his previous matches. I guess it's time for him to notice the weakest spot on his previous spots and turn it into his strength. It will be a good chance for him to prove himself in the ring again.
It's hard though for Moloney to counter a counter puncher like Donaire. Not sure what you meant by Donaire's previous matches are not that impressive, it's all good for him after losing to Inoue the first time as he knocks everyone out, however, when face with the Monster the second time, he was then knockout because he admit that he make a wrong strategy of going toe to toe with Inoue. But in this fight against Moloney if ever this will happen, Donaire's chances are good because Moloney is not that of a knockout artist.
Well, we cannot blame those fans who are expecting much from Donaire; he's one of the great boxers out there which means expectations are high on his end. Which makes it not surprising to know that his recent fights were veing compared to his previous or career fights which showed how dominant he was on his weight class. But this one I think Nonito has the advantage with speed not unless Moloney would surpass his agility trainings. Would be a good fight on my end. Been a fan of Nonito for years and I think it would be great for his comeback to win this match big time. Hopefully he'd be on top condition during the fight.
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January 25, 2023, 11:28:02 AM
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As far as I know, recently Donaire has often lost in boxing, if I'm not mistaken Donaire has experienced 7 defeats during his boxing career, maybe it's the age factor or other things, while Moloney during his boxing career has experienced 2 defeats, you could say both boxers are cage champions, different from other boxers in general, maybe this fight is a moment to fight for his future international boxing career.

But my prediction is fist between Jason Moloney vs. Nonito Donaire ends boxing by decision D.

Donaire has more fights in him compared to Moloney, and two of those losses are from Inoue, the celebrated world champion right now. And mind you, Donaire didn't just lost to Inoue. With his age and supposed frailty, he still held up a fight and dragged the bout to 12 rounds. Fighters of this age are usually slow to react and have lower stamina than what they have on their younger days, but Donaire just showed us that he still have it and still have some fights in him.

Experience is the best teacher, and boy does Donaire have a lot of those. If ever this fight pushes through, I don't think Moloney will have that much of a chance to win, save for a knockout punch that could render Donaire helpless.
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