Earlier, Moloney and his team were excited to face Donaire and hoped to bring the fight to Australia. Things changed though when Moloney's promoter Bob Arum said that he do not want to deal with Donaire's promoter Probellum due to its connections with the Irish crimelord Daniel Kinahan. Personally, I am doubtful about Arum's alibi. Maybe Arum just wanted an easier opponent for Moloney.
I think Donaire has no choice because he is not ranked in the top 3 of the other sanctioning bodies. He will have to wait for the WBC's official statement as to who will be his opponent for the vacant belt. WBC ranked 3 is Nawaphon Sor Rungvisai but the Thai is scheduled for February 25. Maybe the WBC and Donaire will wait for the result but what if the Thai lose that one?
Ranked 4 is Raymart Gaballo whom Donaire already beat. But Gaballo is also ranked 4th by the WBO which means he is likely to face WBO #1 Moloney since ranked 2 and 3 Rodriguez and Astrolabio are already mandated by the IBF to start its negotiations. I think we will just have to wait here as even both Rodriguez and Astrolabio are not guaranteed to happen as they are also ranked high in the other sanctioning bodies.
Topic: Boxing: Nonito Donaire vs Jason Moloney - page 4. (Read 1220 times)
Yes, the Donaire vs Moloney bout is already cancelled because the latter suddenly withdrew from the discussion. We don't know the reasons yet as both camps haven't disclosed some information regarding why their discussion has ceased but as per speculations, both camp did have an issue about the slice of the pie. Either camp isn't willing to receive less as in this bout, they are both equal. Now, Nonito Donaire and his camp is on a waiting game again.
that's what pride is. they will stick to what they want up until the event won't push thru. anyway, donaire should not wait any longer as he knows he's not getting any younger. for the next opponent who wants to challenge, just accept it. the purse split should be the secondary consideration. because if he will be picky, he maybe past his golden years anymore.
When it comes to purse split then there are others which are really that too much in concern about these partitions and if they do find out that it wont be worth or not really that something fair then they
do really just back off and ignore on possible offers which is sad.I agree into that point about pride which we know that someone would really be sticking into that no matter what happens.
Yes, the Donaire vs Moloney bout is already cancelled because the latter suddenly withdrew from the discussion. We don't know the reasons yet as both camps haven't disclosed some information regarding why their discussion has ceased but as per speculations, both camp did have an issue about the slice of the pie. Either camp isn't willing to receive less as in this bout, they are both equal. Now, Nonito Donaire and his camp is on a waiting game again.
that's what pride is. they will stick to what they want up until the event won't push thru. anyway, donaire should not wait any longer as he knows he's not getting any younger. for the next opponent who wants to challenge, just accept it. the purse split should be the secondary consideration. because if he will be picky, he maybe past his golden years anymore.
Nonito the Filipino flash Donaire will came back to the and fight Jason Moloney as we all know how this fighter hadle his opponent during the fight day. Maloney is one of the best fighter and also he has a big advantage as we all know that Donaire is getting Older . But I think Donaire will prove that he can play and win by his age he can still be a champion. For me in this fight Ill choose Donaire to win the match ad Donaire has many experience
Well, we all know Donaire's limitations that many put on him, which is his age, I really don't see limitations for him, for me a boxer who has a lot of experience needs to be much more careful when fighting, because He knows how to handle his times because he knows what his capabilities are, from what I've seen Malooney is one of the toughest fighters and he has a lot to offer, it's something that is unique, it's also nice that Nonito is up against one of the best boxers What they have for now, if Nonito manages to win this fight, he will put a number of events at his disposal, this is what he is looking for now, fame to launch himself to success.
Much has been speculated about Donaire, now wait for another designated boxer?
Jason Moloney, Top Rank To No Longer Pursue WBC Title; Nonito Donaire Awaits Next Named Opponent
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Nonito Donaire will need a new dance partner in pursuit of a fourth bantamweight title.
BoxingScene.com has confirmed Jason Moloney—through promoter Top Rank—has broken away from talks to face Donaire for the vacant WBC bantamweight title. The development comes well ahead of the February 17 deadline assigned to a matchup that was more than months in the making.
“The WBC has received confirmation from Top Rank that [Moloney] will not be fighting for The WBC bantamweight title,” WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman confirmed to the teams for both boxers via official letter, a copy of which was obtained by BoxingScene.com. “With this letter the process of [Moloney] vs Donaire is hereby cancelled."
BoxingScene.com has confirmed Jason Moloney—through promoter Top Rank—has broken away from talks to face Donaire for the vacant WBC bantamweight title. The development comes well ahead of the February 17 deadline assigned to a matchup that was more than months in the making.
“The WBC has received confirmation from Top Rank that [Moloney] will not be fighting for The WBC bantamweight title,” WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman confirmed to the teams for both boxers via official letter, a copy of which was obtained by BoxingScene.com. “With this letter the process of [Moloney] vs Donaire is hereby cancelled."
Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/jason-moloney-top-rank-no-longer-pursue-wbc-title-nonito-donaire-awaits-next-named-opponent--172190
Yes, the Donaire vs Moloney bout is already cancelled because the latter suddenly withdrew from the discussion. We don't know the reasons yet as both camps haven't disclosed some information regarding why their discussion has ceased but as per speculations, both camp did have an issue about the slice of the pie. Either camp isn't willing to receive less as in this bout, they are both equal. Now, Nonito Donaire and his camp is on a waiting game again.
Nonito the Filipino flash Donaire will came back to the and fight Jason Moloney as we all know how this fighter hadle his opponent during the fight day. Maloney is one of the best fighter and also he has a big advantage as we all know that Donaire is getting Older . But I think Donaire will prove that he can play and win by his age he can still be a champion. For me in this fight Ill choose Donaire to win the match ad Donaire has many experience
Well, we all know Donaire's limitations that many put on him, which is his age, I really don't see limitations for him, for me a boxer who has a lot of experience needs to be much more careful when fighting, because He knows how to handle his times because he knows what his capabilities are, from what I've seen Malooney is one of the toughest fighters and he has a lot to offer, it's something that is unique, it's also nice that Nonito is up against one of the best boxers What they have for now, if Nonito manages to win this fight, he will put a number of events at his disposal, this is what he is looking for now, fame to launch himself to success.
Much has been speculated about Donaire, now wait for another designated boxer?
Jason Moloney, Top Rank To No Longer Pursue WBC Title; Nonito Donaire Awaits Next Named Opponent
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Nonito Donaire will need a new dance partner in pursuit of a fourth bantamweight title.
BoxingScene.com has confirmed Jason Moloney—through promoter Top Rank—has broken away from talks to face Donaire for the vacant WBC bantamweight title. The development comes well ahead of the February 17 deadline assigned to a matchup that was more than months in the making.
“The WBC has received confirmation from Top Rank that [Moloney] will not be fighting for The WBC bantamweight title,” WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman confirmed to the teams for both boxers via official letter, a copy of which was obtained by BoxingScene.com. “With this letter the process of [Moloney] vs Donaire is hereby cancelled."
BoxingScene.com has confirmed Jason Moloney—through promoter Top Rank—has broken away from talks to face Donaire for the vacant WBC bantamweight title. The development comes well ahead of the February 17 deadline assigned to a matchup that was more than months in the making.
“The WBC has received confirmation from Top Rank that [Moloney] will not be fighting for The WBC bantamweight title,” WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman confirmed to the teams for both boxers via official letter, a copy of which was obtained by BoxingScene.com. “With this letter the process of [Moloney] vs Donaire is hereby cancelled."
Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/jason-moloney-top-rank-no-longer-pursue-wbc-title-nonito-donaire-awaits-next-named-opponent--172190
He's known for that.
He won't back out when the fight is already about to happen. And knowing that he's quite near to his farewell for his career, he'd do everything to win whoever will be assigned to fight him.
He won't back out when the fight is already about to happen. And knowing that he's quite near to his farewell for his career, he'd do everything to win whoever will be assigned to fight him.
He deserves a crack because he is rank higher in WBC or even in WBA.
And then we know that he can still pull the trigger against this young fighters in this division, it's that Inoue is too good for everyone including Nonito. But if you are going to pit him with the rest of the rank fighters, I think Donaire will beat majority of them or even score a knockout. It's that he is under the management of Probellum and Moloney's manager doesn't want to work with that promotion.
Still searching for the next selection for this match. Yeah, Inoue was just too good and has beaten him twice but since then, it seems that there are no other boxers on the same division that might be on par with him even on his age now.
They are lucky that Inoue decided to move up, otherwise, this division will be owned by Inoue as long as he stays active.
As of this time, there's no clear opponent that Donaire might fight next. No words from Moloney too. Maybe told by his Boss to keep his mouth shut lol.
Or probably they are talking to other promoters on how to settle this one since Moloney or his camp doesn't want Donaire.
And so before Donaire opens his mouth, at least the fight should be 99% in the bag already, no more last second backing up just like what happen here. As for Inoue moving up, it's good for the Donaire, opening up a lot of opportunities for boxers to get a belt.
So let's wait for Donaire or on Moloney side, for sure all bodies are looking to have a fight as all the belts are open now. They immediately need a champion.
Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now, Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.
This fight was ordered already by the WBC (https://www.fightsports.tv/jason-moloney-vs-nonito-donaire-confirmed-for-vacant-bantamweight-championship/). But due to several reasons, even if WBC somewhat 'imposed' it, the fight fell off.
No one is backing down from this fight, it's only their promoters who doesn't want them to fight.
So now they have other options. And Donaire, since he is rank second behind Moloney, he has the greater chances to fight for the WBC belt since Moloney is the one who back down from it.
Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now, Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.
Yes, that's true. Before he ends up his professional career, there has to be a good landing for it so that he'll just take it lightly and won't be feeling for his retirement. It's in the book that it seems that he really wants to have that beautiful ending like winning first before he gets out of professional boxing. Who knows after this, if he'll also do the same thing like exhibition matches just like what the other retirees did.
Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/jason-moloney-top-rank-no-longer-pursue-wbc-title-nonito-donaire-awaits-next-named-opponent--172190
Yeah, the match has been canceled already and we're all just waiting on who's going to be ordered to fight him still. He's just waiting for that opponent so that the title match will start already.
Let see for another update regarding to a vacant belt that Inoue left after deciding to move up to another division, still possible that a fight for Donaire can happen before ending his career or retiring his gloves.
Right, but I'm expecting to see a fight from him this year. He might retire soon so at least he will be able to have more fights before that will happen. It's still too early, who knows, weeks from now we will see in the news that Donaire is up for another opponent for a title fight. For the meantime, we might here a new name that will be paired for him since the fight that supposedly
against Maloney was already been cancelled.
As long as it's not official, let us not expect too much as you know, this Donaire vs Moloney was canceled and we thought it was already official. against Maloney was already been cancelled.
Definitely, if Nonito's name is involved for the WBC title, it will be this year, WBC can't wait to have another champion in their weight class, it should be filled right away.
We can see it on the rankings, some good names that Donaire can fight.
But I still see him winning whoever he face in the WBC, Nonito still has the power and can still fight.
I want to witness that greatness even at his age. The speed might not be there anymore but the power and that amazing hook, if given a chance it can still bring the opponent to kiss the floor.
It will be exciting since the vacant position will be the desire of each fighter who has the opportunity
to take the belt. Donaire is one of those good values for the organization. They can still sell his name and
with his legacy at his age, it can be supported by the fans everywhere.
Let see for another update regarding to a vacant belt that Inoue left after deciding to move up to another division, still possible that a fight for Donaire can happen before ending his career or retiring his gloves.
Right, but I'm expecting to see a fight from him this year. He might retire soon so at least he will be able to have more fights before that will happen. It's still too early, who knows, weeks from now we will see in the news that Donaire is up for another opponent for a title fight. For the meantime, we might here a new name that will be paired for him since the fight that supposedly
against Maloney was already been cancelled.
As long as it's not official, let us not expect too much as you know, this Donaire vs Moloney was canceled and we thought it was already official. against Maloney was already been cancelled.
Definitely, if Nonito's name is involved for the WBC title, it will be this year, WBC can't wait to have another champion in their weight class, it should be filled right away.
We can see it on the rankings, some good names that Donaire can fight.
But I still see him winning whoever he face in the WBC, Nonito still has the power and can still fight.
Let see for another update regarding to a vacant belt that Inoue left after deciding to move up to another division, still possible that a fight for Donaire can happen before ending his career or retiring his gloves.
Right, but I'm expecting to see a fight from him this year. He might retire soon so at least he will be able to have more fights before that will happen. It's still too early, who knows, weeks from now we will see in the news that Donaire is up for another opponent for a title fight. For the meantime, we might here a new name that will be paired for him since the fight that supposedly
against Maloney was already been cancelled.
As long as it's not official, let us not expect too much as you know, this Donaire vs Moloney was canceled and we thought it was already official. against Maloney was already been cancelled.
Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now, Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.
Yes, that's true. Before he ends up his professional career, there has to be a good landing for it so that he'll just take it lightly and won't be feeling for his retirement. It's in the book that it seems that he really wants to have that beautiful ending like winning first before he gets out of professional boxing. Who knows after this, if he'll also do the same thing like exhibition matches just like what the other retirees did.
Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/jason-moloney-top-rank-no-longer-pursue-wbc-title-nonito-donaire-awaits-next-named-opponent--172190
Let see for another update regarding to a vacant belt that Inoue left after deciding to move up to another division, still possible that a fight for Donaire can happen before ending his career or retiring his gloves.
For the meantime, we might here a new name that will be paired for him since the fight that supposedly
against Maloney was already been cancelled.
I think that this will be an interesting fight since Nonito had just lose His title recently and wanted to have a come back ( though I thought he is retiring as His age are not far from Manny Pacquiao)
Well, if Donaire is considering to retire, isn't it good to exit with a last win fight than a lose?But I doubt he will retire sooner, I never heard any announcement about this. Moreover, he's not too old and can still fight even with younger boxers. Thus, I hope this fight will push through so we can see Donaire in the ring once again.
Nonito Donaire wants the fight according to reports but I think it's Jason Moloney who is trying to be wise and avoid him or the promoter's problem again.
Top Rank versus Probellum. These promoters have some issues and normally the fights won't materialize if it's between them.
We might as well expect that Moloney will be fighting Reymart Gaballo instead for the WBO title.
With that, the next in line is Nawaphon Kaikanha for the WBC title against Donaire but he has an upcoming fight. Next to him will be Alexandro Santiago.
The decision of Astrolabio might be crucial too if he will pursue the IBF title.
Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now, Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.
Yes, that's true. Before he ends up his professional career, there has to be a good landing for it so that he'll just take it lightly and won't be feeling for his retirement. It's in the book that it seems that he really wants to have that beautiful ending like winning first before he gets out of professional boxing. Who knows after this, if he'll also do the same thing like exhibition matches just like what the other retirees did.
Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/jason-moloney-top-rank-no-longer-pursue-wbc-title-nonito-donaire-awaits-next-named-opponent--172190
I think that this will be an interesting fight since Nonito had just lose His title recently and wanted to have a come back ( though I thought he is retiring as His age are not far from Manny Pacquiao)
Well, if Donaire is considering to retire, isn't it good to exit with a last win fight than a lose?But I doubt he will retire sooner, I never heard any announcement about this. Moreover, he's not too old and can still fight even with younger boxers. Thus, I hope this fight will push through so we can see Donaire in the ring once again.
but you are correct that he may not considered retiring because he has a years before that at least another 2-3 years more?
also I want Him to try beating the japanese monster first before retirement and that is Naoya Inoue lol.
Well, if Donaire is considering to retire, isn't it good to exit with a last win fight than a lose?
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But I doubt he will retire sooner, I never heard any announcement about this. Moreover, he's not too old and can still fight even with younger boxers. Thus, I hope this fight will push through so we can see Donaire in the ring once again.
well but at the age of 40+? it is not that old but enough to consider retirement and focus in life.anyway about the fight? I am confident that he will win this one as he is eager to have another win from his recent losing .
They are lucky that Inoue decided to move up, otherwise, this division will be owned by Inoue as long as he stays active.
As of this time, there's no clear opponent that Donaire might fight next. No words from Moloney too. Maybe told by his Boss to keep his mouth shut lol.
Or probably they are talking to other promoters on how to settle this one since Moloney or his camp doesn't want Donaire.
And so before Donaire opens his mouth, at least the fight should be 99% in the bag already, no more last second backing up just like what happen here. As for Inoue moving up, it's good for the Donaire, opening up a lot of opportunities for boxers to get a belt.
So let's wait for Donaire or on Moloney side, for sure all bodies are looking to have a fight as all the belts are open now. They immediately need a champion.
Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now, Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.
Yeah, we've seen a lot of good fighters who's not cherry picking their opponent and were able to ge themselves ready for far to whoever is in the table. Donaire is one of them, Pacquiao, and a lot of great mexican fighters. But, today? Dang! Those fighters who were considered the best with their unblemished records are even afraid to fight each other. That is something that the fans don't like to happen, not seeing best fighters fight each other while they're still in their prime.
I think that this will be an interesting fight since Nonito had just lose His title recently and wanted to have a come back ( though I thought he is retiring as His age are not far from Manny Pacquiao)
Well, if Donaire is considering to retire, isn't it good to exit with a last win fight than a lose?But I doubt he will retire sooner, I never heard any announcement about this. Moreover, he's not too old and can still fight even with younger boxers. Thus, I hope this fight will push through so we can see Donaire in the ring once again.
Why is the WBC making these two fight when according to the WBC ranking Donaire and Casimnero are the next on the top. These two should be the first to have the chance to take the vacant position. Moloney had not gone far compare to the Donaire. Although Donaire is weary, he can defeat Moloney in a few rounds judging by his last fight against Inoue.
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back to the topic , I think that this will be an interesting fight since Nonito had just lose His title recently and wanted to have a come back ( though I thought he is retiring as His age are not far from Manny Pacquiao)
Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now,
He's known for that.He won't back out when the fight is already about to happen. And knowing that he's quite near to his farewell for his career, he'd do everything to win whoever will be assigned to fight him.
Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.
Without a doubt.He deserves a crack because he is rank higher in WBC or even in WBA.
And then we know that he can still pull the trigger against this young fighters in this division, it's that Inoue is too good for everyone including Nonito. But if you are going to pit him with the rest of the rank fighters, I think Donaire will beat majority of them or even score a knockout. It's that he is under the management of Probellum and Moloney's manager doesn't want to work with that promotion.
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