Boxing: Nonito Donaire vs Jason Moloney - page 11.

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Quote from: Daltonik on January 25, 2023, 08:09:31 AM

I don't know who can win this fight because they have an approximate difference in technique and age of course Nonito Donaire is older than his opponent but he is also much more experienced than Jason Moloney so both experience and youth can play in this fight.

Moloney's age could be an advantage only if he would focus on countering Donaire's punches. However, Donaire's previous matches aren't that impressive. He had a lose streak and it really ruined his winning record. It seems like he wasn't well prepared in his previous matches. I guess it's time for him to notice the weakest spot on his previous spots and turn it into his strength. It will be a good chance for him to prove himself in the ring again.

It's hard though for Moloney to counter a counter puncher like Donaire. Not sure what you meant by Donaire's previous matches are not that impressive, it's all good for him after losing to Inoue the first time as he knocks everyone out, however, when face with the Monster the second time, he was then knockout because he admit that he make a wrong strategy of going toe to toe with Inoue. But in this fight against Moloney if ever this will happen, Donaire's chances are good because Moloney is not that of a knockout artist.

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Quote from: cabron on January 24, 2023, 08:19:16 AM

Why is the WBC making these two fight when according to the WBC ranking Donaire and Casimnero are the next on the top. These two should be the first to have the chance to take the vacant position. Moloney had not gone far compare to the Donaire. Although Donaire is weary, he can defeat Moloney in a few rounds judging by his last fight against Inoue.

Moloney is also a champion of his own while managing to earn his place towards the top and just like Donaire, they both failed to take the highest peak because they stumbled upon Naoya Inoue who defeated both of them on their respective title campaigns.

Currently, Moloney is the #1 and Donaire holds the following spot and that is according to WBC, while Casimero's name now belongs to the WBC #8 at 118 lbs.
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Quote from: Daltonik on January 25, 2023, 08:09:31 AM

I don't know who can win this fight because they have an approximate difference in technique and age of course Nonito Donaire is older than his opponent but he is also much more experienced than Jason Moloney so both experience and youth can play in this fight.

Moloney's age could be an advantage only if he would focus on countering Donaire's punches. However, Donaire's previous matches aren't that impressive. He had a lose streak and it really ruined his winning record. It seems like he wasn't well prepared in his previous matches. I guess it's time for him to notice the weakest spot on his previous spots and turn it into his strength. It will be a good chance for him to prove himself in the ring again.

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 24, 2023, 06:39:14 PM

I still believe that Donaire can still pull this one off, his loss against Inoue was because of miscalculations I'm sure he learned his lesson well, he is still fast, strong and wise in the ring, Jason Moloney is good but he is not Inoue to beat Donaire, this fight is not yet official, because so many contenders are on the list to make titles contention now that all the belts are vacant so many name is coming up, but if this fight happens Donaire has a good chance to take the belt.

He should take this chance once again because he can still fight and have some strong punches as well. with this kind of opponent, he can easily get the belt and stay in that weight division and depend on the belt until the end of his career. He has nothing to lose to accept this offer and I think he can fight anywhere in the world he can still manage to give us an exciting fight because his last fight was not all bad and he was not as slow as any boxer who was his age. Donaire needs to take every opportunity this time if he really wants to continue his pro boxing career.

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I don't know who can win this fight because they have an approximate difference in technique and age of course Nonito Donaire is older than his opponent but he is also much more experienced than Jason Moloney so both experience and youth can play in this fight.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on January 25, 2023, 06:54:59 AM

Most of us here are rooting for Donaire to win by KO. However, I have to bet against you guys because I think Inoue will not be able to knock out Jason Moloney, and when that will go to the judges scorecards, the decision might not favor Donaire. I know that he will take this opportunity to win to become a champion again, but judging on his last fight, I believe his age really slowed him down and has affected his power.

They are both good boxer, and it will be hard for Donaire to win via KO here so he must be more active through out the round if ever.
The decision will be based on their performance, they are both aiming for the belt and this is their golden opportunity to have it again so I believe this will happen. Most probably they just need to talk more about the contract, and if both parties agree we can see an epic match between this boxer. I'll still with my bet with Donaire, he's more eager to win here.

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Most of us here are rooting for Donaire to win by KO. However, I have to bet against you guys because I think Inoue will not be able to knock out Jason Moloney, and when that will go to the judges scorecards, the decision might not favor Donaire. I know that he will take this opportunity to win to become a champion again, but judging on his last fight, I believe his age really slowed him down and has affected his power.

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Quote from: robelneo on January 25, 2023, 06:22:08 AM

If not for the Inoue knock out I will 100% consider Donaire as a veteran boxer that can beat anybody in that division, he still has it, getting knocked out can happen to any boxer, like what Pacquiao said after getting knocked out by Marquez, you are not in the sports of boxing if you don't expect to get knocked out, Moloney is good but his style is very much suited to Donaire and he's been knockin gout boxers like Moloney.
I'm glad that the community shares my sentiment that Donaire is the favorite to win here.

Style makes fight as the saying goes, so yeah, maybe Moloney will be perfect fit for Donaire style as he can just wait for Moloney to be aggressive and then wait for him to make a mistakes and time him and execute that left hook that Donaire is known for.

I'm thinking that Donaire will be the slight favorite here?

Or with the young Moloney, because of his winning streak and Donaire coming from a lost to Inoue will be the favorite?

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If not for the Inoue knock out I will 100% consider Donaire as a veteran boxer that can beat anybody in that division, he still has it, getting knocked out can happen to any boxer, like what Pacquiao said after getting knocked out by Marquez, you are not in the sports of boxing if you don't expect to get knocked out, Moloney is good but his style is very much suited to Donaire and he's been knockin gout boxers like Moloney.
I'm glad that the community shares my sentiment that Donaire is the favorite to win here.

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Although there's a huge gap in age, I still think Donaire could be a dominating fighter once he gets his rhythm.
Both boxers lost against Naoya Inoue, both were KO'ed by the young superstar too. (Donaire vs Inoue 2) Although I also want to point out how difficult it was for Inoue at their first fight. Lasted 12 rounds, Inoue was also hurt in the process.
I believe The Flash still has it, the punching power is there although his movements might become limited to preserve his stamina. Moloney on the other hand could use that to his advantage.
This might become a fight with an unpredictable winner unlike other events that happened recently, I hope the odds will be balanced for good profits.

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Nice fight for both of the fighters.

I still root for Nonito Donaire to win despite him being the older fighter, well, some called him old already and has to retire from boxing, but I think he still has something to prove, he can make this opportunity to be a champion again before hanging those gloves.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 24, 2023, 07:58:08 PM

I guess Donaire still can defeat Moloney only by knockout, but if this will go to scorecards, I guess Moloney has a shot to win against Donaire. Age is a factor when it comes to stamina.

Maybe, because Donaire mostly win via KO even he's already old, Gaballo and Oubaali haven't lose any single fight before they fight with Donaire, but they get knocked out by Donaire. Watching Moloney fight with Inoue, he's lack of technical and much slower, Donaire still have a speed and it would possible to knock out Moloney. 3-6 rounds are average rounds where Donaire will finish his opponent, let's see if Moloney could survive for the first six rounds or not.

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I thought that Donaire's career in boxing is over already a few years ago until he defeated Oubaali. That's Oubaali's first knockout loss and he got it on a past-prime boxer like Donaire.

His fight against Inoue is expected already knowing how strong and how good he is. Both of these fighters suffered a lost against "The Monster" and now that the Inoue choose to step up and vacate the title, Donaire again has a chance to get a title and fight a few more fights before he retires.

I guess Donaire still can defeat Moloney only by knockout, but if this will go to scorecards, I guess Moloney has a shot to win against Donaire. Age is a factor when it comes to stamina.

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Good thing though that Naoya Inoue moved up (which is an expected plan) as that was the pre-requisite for Nonito Donaire having a chance to taste again being a title holder at the bantamweight. Since Donaire is still at the top of the WBC Bantamweight ranking, he got his chance again for a mandatory title fight and now it was materialized, and he will face the Rank 1 Jason Moloney for the vacant title.

As I said in the other thread, we don't see if Donaire is at his limit yet since the last time he loses is against a real monster. Again, I want to see him facing a boxer aside from Inoue in the 118 lbs to see if he can still match with the boxers at that weight.

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I still believe that Donaire can still pull this one off, his loss against Inoue was because of miscalculations I'm sure he learned his lesson well, he is still fast, strong and wise in the ring, Jason Moloney is good but he is not Inoue to beat Donaire, this fight is not yet official, because so many contenders are on the list to make titles contention now that all the belts are vacant so many name is coming up, but if this fight happens Donaire has a good chance to take the belt.

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Quote from: Dave1 on January 24, 2023, 03:21:27 PM

He has been younger fighters obviously, even in the WBSS tournament wherein he lost to Inoue the first time, he has fought younger fighters in the elimination rounds. So he is much familiar fighter younger opponents so each won't be any issue for Donaire. And as he matured a lot, he has somewhat learn how to preserved and will just throw if the timing is right for sure. And I think that is the one trick why he is still fighting high level even at age 40 and will have another chance to become a champion.

Nonito can still fight and he won on his last match so technically, he can still match the energy of the younger boxers.
This is a good opportunity to many boxer to grab the opportunity to have some belt that are actually came from Inoue after he goes to a higher level. Donaire should accept this deal and make this fight more possible, this is a good opportunity for him to reclaim the belt and be a champion again.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on January 24, 2023, 01:00:59 PM

Honestly not getting my hopes up with Donaire knowing how old he is already but from his last fight with Inoue it seems like he still has the hunger for boxing. That being said AFAIK just like what OP said he is vying to fight El Gallo to claim 5 divisions for himself. Although he may entertain this fight because worse comes to worse, he's going to be better prepared against fighters that are younger than him considering moloney's age, best case scenario he has a title to bag for himself. February is not too far now and I think they'd rush the two because money needs to be made. So we may see the two of them fight probably February or any other month that will give them both the time and prep.

But you could really see the speed and that technicality isnt really the same on his prime days and its impossible for us not to see up that one plus having that footwork isnt really that good when he's still young.
Now that he would be fighting against Moloney which is younger plus having that good KO percentage then we could say that power is more than with Donaire but lets see about the speed if
there's much difference in between two.If i were to choose up then i would be having some doubts on going all in with Donaire and its not bad to make up some consideration on throwing
up some bucks on Moloney.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on January 24, 2023, 07:51:24 AM

Meanwhile, Donaire's earlier target is to drop in weight and face El Gallo Estrada for his ambition to become a 5 division world champion.

The plan to drop in weight will be scrap for sure as the fight with Moloney will be the best and the way to go in terms of battling the scales as he doesn't have to shed more muscles to fight Estrada.

This fight is a go for me, they will just have to set the venue and the date and will be rooting once again for the Filipino Flash as i think he still has it to become a 3-time world champion in the bantamweight division.

Really admire Donaire for making this weight even at this stage of his career, i mean he is taller than most of the bantamweights but he got no problem with the scales, this only shows how disciplined he is as a boxer.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on January 24, 2023, 01:00:59 PM

Honestly not getting my hopes up with Donaire knowing how old he is already but from his last fight with Inoue it seems like he still has the hunger for boxing. That being said AFAIK just like what OP said he is vying to fight El Gallo to claim 5 divisions for himself. Although he may entertain this fight because worse comes to worse, he's going to be better prepared against fighters that are younger than him considering moloney's age, best case scenario he has a title to bag for himself. February is not too far now and I think they'd rush the two because money needs to be made. So we may see the two of them fight probably February or any other month that will give them both the time and prep.

He has been younger fighters obviously, even in the WBSS tournament wherein he lost to Inoue the first time, he has fought younger fighters in the elimination rounds. So he is much familiar fighter younger opponents so each won't be any issue for Donaire. And as he matured a lot, he has somewhat learn how to preserved and will just throw if the timing is right for sure. And I think that is the one trick why he is still fighting high level even at age 40 and will have another chance to become a champion.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on January 24, 2023, 09:37:15 AM

From my assessment between Jason Moloney vs. Nonito Donaire will be clashing next February, for now they have both been crowned WBC belt contenders.
In my personal assessment:
1. Moloney is younger than Donaire, 32/40.
2. Moloney with a record (25-2, 19 KOs) and Donaire (41-6 (27 KOs).

As far as I know, recently Donaire has often lost in boxing, if I'm not mistaken Donaire has experienced 7 defeats during his boxing career, maybe it's the age factor or other things, while Moloney during his boxing career has experienced 2 defeats, you could say both boxers are cage champions, different from other boxers in general, maybe this fight is a moment to fight for his future international boxing career.

But my prediction is fist between Jason Moloney vs. Nonito Donaire ends boxing by decision D.

I guess we can argue that age sometimes doesn't matter in boxing. We have seen Manny proved that against Keith Thurman.

Donaire's lost with some of the best boxer, and like when he tries to move up in the division facing bigger opponents. And the last time is against the Monster Inoue twice, so he has been facing the best opponents even as he age.

So I will give Donaire a chance in this fight and this could end in a knockout, if he can time Moloney and hit him with his vaunted left hook.

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